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Elgin Clock
17-05-2004, 23:25
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is Fantasy FIRST and how does it work?

I see that people have signed up and have started to chose some teams for Bean Town Blitz, and my team has been chosen in at least 2 seperate divisions. (Thanks? I think.)

What does it mean?? Tell me, what does it all mean??

Koko Ed
17-05-2004, 23:35
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is Fantasy FIRST and how does it work?

I see that people have signed up and have started to chose some teams for Bean Town Blitz, and my team has been chosen in at least 2 seperate divisions. (Thanks? I think.)

What does it mean?? Tell me, what does it all mean??
Fantasy FIRST is a variation on the Fantasy sports craze that has swept the sports world over the years. A player in a league selects three robots to have in a competition and is scored by the stats from thsoe robots stats and they are rated in comaprison to the other league members.

Will Hanashiro
17-05-2004, 23:35
its run exactly like fantasy football, or fantasy baseball.

basically what has been going on for the past few days is the draft period, where people pick three teams who they want to be the "owners" of. depending on how well these three teams do in the actual competetion, you are given points. the person whose three teams do the best is the winner of the fantasy first league, for that particular event. right now we're doing it for the beantown blitz, but earlier we had the national fantasy first, and in the future we'll be doin fantasy first for other invitationals.

did that answer your question??? or do you need more clarifying??? please dont hesitate to ask any anything that you're still fuzzy on. :) :) :)

Will Hanashiro
17-05-2004, 23:37
ah!!! koko, you've beat me to it... darn. :ahh: :p :ahh:

Elgin Clock
17-05-2004, 23:59
A bit.. thanks guys.

I figured it was like Fantasy Football and baseball and the like, but I have never participated in them before so I did not know how they worked..exactly.

Thanks again!

Alex Burman
27-10-2005, 18:25
how are the stats of the bots found is that from the scouting database?

Elgin Clock
27-10-2005, 18:36
how are the stats of the bots found is that from the scouting database?

Stats count towards final scoring of your team(s) in the leauge. There are certain point values for different things.

Seeding ranking position, Final ranking position, Awards, and what not all have points assigned ot them designated by the founder of the FF league.

Anyone can make a league, so long as they clearly define the rules and how many people can participate and then do the scoring at the end of it.

No, points are not based on the scouting database. (Which one in particular do you mean btw?) That is for team use only, and can be used for reference to choose your teams in the league, but is not a factor in FF whatsoever. Awards at events, and final placements in seeding and finals are the most used.

For example, in the FF league for the Championship event this year, the highest scores were given to the Chairman's Award winning team, and the Championship Event Competition Winners.

Speaking of myself and my random team assignment of team 67 for that event, they (67) not only won the Chairman's Award, but won the Event as well with two othr teams, so I ended up winning the FF event. (High points for FF from Chairman's and high points from event win.)

It won't always happen that way, but the points system determines who wins by point values for Awards and Event placement in the rankings.

I just got lucky... Real lucky. w00t Team 67.

irishninja
23-02-2006, 00:35
Wait now i'm really confused. What was with all the football talk? Was that just supposed to be funny, or is there a fantasy football league or what. Totally confused. And i guess i'm too late, but how do you submit the teams you pick, and how do yo ufind out which teams you can pick?

orelinde
26-03-2006, 17:38
totally confused also but was glad to see that team 1733 was chosen for something :D thank you?

Koko Ed
26-03-2006, 22:00
totally confused also but was glad to see that team 1733 was chosen for something :D thank you?
Rookies are valuble point getters (Rookie All Star. Rookie Inspiration and Top Rookie Seed). And some of them do manage to rise to the top.

Alex Cormier
23-01-2007, 20:49
what's the randomizer site again?

Joe Ross
24-01-2007, 19:15
http://random.org/sform.html

fluffy
31-03-2007, 20:53
what are the point values?...i saw them before, I just cant seem to find them again, thanks

EricH
01-04-2007, 00:26
what are the point values?...i saw them before, I just cant seem to find them again, thanksI think it depends on your league. Usually declared first post or so. There's a certain range of point values for different things, but it's narrow.

Tetraman
05-12-2007, 07:43
Rookie Question:

How do I got about asking to change some of the teams for those I'd want in drafts that are already complete?

Koko Ed
05-12-2007, 08:40
Rookie Question:

How do I got about asking to change some of the teams for those I'd want in drafts that are already complete?

Ask the commish of the league directly in the thread. Make sure that the team is available though.

Sgraff_SRHS06
17-12-2007, 20:10
How do the randomized rankings work?

Chesapeake:
2132
1195
1980
2536
768
2534
1719
2199
1626
293
339
484
7
869
1389
1656
75
709
686
1895
341
615
1893
888
1886
2121
1218
204
1904
2528
359
836
1418
449
2448
1284
2016
1629
203
53
1933
1727
88
2546
1894
1900
134
2537
1820
1111
1027
614
2377
1748
1618
1168
2120
2234

Having 1195 at the top of the list and the tops of many drafts does not make any sense considering the past history. Neither does having 2132, but we'll give them time. Outside of 1618, 1168, 2377, and maybe 2120 and 2234, there are way too many teams here that are either way underrated, had their performances abberrated by circumstances beyond their control (mechanical or driver), or had a couple of pretty good seasons and are way too much a discount pick (614 and 1748).

synth3tk
17-12-2007, 20:30
Exactly that. It's randomized, so it basically puts stuff all over the place, with no rhyme or reason.

DanDon
17-12-2007, 20:31
How do the randomized rankings work?



Having 1195 at the top of the list and the tops of many drafts does not make any sense considering the past history. Neither does having 2132, but we'll give them time. Outside of 1618, 1168, 2377, and maybe 2120 and 2234, there are way too many teams here that are either way underrated, had their performances abberrated by circumstances beyond their control (mechanical or driver), or had a couple of pretty good seasons and are way too much a discount pick (614 and 1748).

I believe (And Ed, correct me if I'm wrong), that the randomized rankings are exactly that: random, and that they are the order of teams that will be assigned to players that do not draft in their time slot or send in a list.

EricH
17-12-2007, 20:36
I believe (And Ed, correct me if I'm wrong), that the randomized rankings are exactly that: random, and that they are the order of teams that will be assigned to players that do not draft in their time slot or send in a list.
Bingo. I know, as I've had to assign those teams to players. If you don't want the randomizer to give you a team, send a list. (Sometimes, mid-draft requests are missed.) If you don't send a list and don't make your choices, don't blame the commissioner of that draft for a bad team. I've seen at least one case where having a list in or not made the difference between a lousy alliance and an outstanding one.

Koko Ed
18-12-2007, 05:19
Bingo. I know, as I've had to assign those teams to players. If you don't want the randomizer to give you a team, send a list. (Sometimes, mid-draft requests are missed.) If you don't send a list and don't make your choices, don't blame the commissioner of that draft for a bad team. I've seen at least one case where having a list in or not made the difference between a lousy alliance and an outstanding one.

And when you do mid draft request do them in the thread and not via PM. That way everyone see when you made the pick and there are no disputes.

hipsterjr
14-01-2008, 10:04
how do you join?

Koko Ed
14-01-2008, 11:24
how do you join?

Keep an eye on this part of the forum. Soon as the robots are shipped individual region leagues will start popping up. Space is limited so get in early!

MasterChief 573
25-02-2008, 19:34
Possibly a stupid question but I noticed that the way the team pools are listed it appears as though different teams have different status and possibly different values. Is there any truth in that and if so could someone explain it?

EricH
25-02-2008, 19:42
Possibly a stupid question but I noticed that the way the team pools are listed it appears as though different teams have different status and possibly different values. Is there any truth in that and if so could someone explain it?How so? The team pools are listed numerically. No special status to one team or another.

Nawaid Ladak
03-12-2008, 22:33
are we allowed to trade our drafting positions before the draft?

EricH
03-12-2008, 22:41
are we allowed to trade our drafting positions before the draft?
That's a negative. Drafting positions are randomly assigned. If you get a lousy position one draft, there's a good chance that you'll get a better position the next draft. You also can't change your tier, AFAIK.

cmh0114
13-02-2010, 11:47
What are the different tiers for? Are they just copies of the same competitions?

Vikesrock
13-02-2010, 15:13
What are the different tiers for? Are they just copies of the same competitions?

There are too many players in the Season Long League to allow everyone to draft three teams from the pool of teams for an event. Players are split into tiers, which each have a separate copy of the team pool to allow all players to select three teams for each event.

cmh0114
19-02-2010, 09:09
Ah, okay. Is there still time enough to start up another tier for a few events for this year, or do I just have to wait until next year?

Koko Ed
19-02-2010, 09:16
Ah, okay. Is there still time enough to start up another tier for a few events for this year, or do I just have to wait until next year?

All the drafts for the season long event are complete.
Keep an eye out as soon as IRI is done.
There will be a sign up period until December for next season.

Chris is me
19-02-2010, 09:19
Though there may be smaller, unofficialish leagues / single event drafts unrelated to the main FF game you can join, so don't give up hope completely! Last year I was able to join a Championship 3 team pick event and an IRI draft.

EricH
19-02-2010, 10:24
JackN is running an auction-style draft, IIRC. I think he still has space. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78916

There is also nothing saying that you can't start your own league to do a given event. If you need help, just ask.

kenavt
29-07-2010, 16:17
I have a question on the tier system, if you don't mind. Basically, the tiers are different leagues, from what I understand, with a relegation system similar to British football (the Premiership is at the top, then there's Division 2 and so long). And, as a newcomer to FF, I would start in the lowest tier?

ATannahill
29-07-2010, 16:19
The tiers are generated randomly, you will not always be with the same people.

kenavt
29-07-2010, 16:31
The tiers are generated randomly, you will not always be with the same people.

Alright. Thanks a lot!

Jim Wilks
15-08-2013, 18:56
I've seen all of the drafts and picks for the 2013 season. Now I see that 2014 season starting.

Where are the results of the 2013 season? Who won? Who lost?

Koko Ed
15-08-2013, 19:28
I've seen all of the drafts and picks for the 2013 season. Now I see that 2014 season starting.

Where are the results of the 2013 season? Who won? Who lost?

The results. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1270626&postcount=654)