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How about adding rock-climbing to the challenge?
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995090
Maybe higher points for negotiating an overhang?
Beth Sweet
10-06-2004, 09:26
What I would really love to see is having the teams try to solve a problem that is real scientists are trying to solve right now. Wouldn't it be cool if a team came up with a robot design that could solve one of the world's worst problems? Talk about FIRST publicity!
Mike Ciance
10-06-2004, 09:28
i don't think rock-climbing would work, but stair-climbing would be cool. when i heard the rumors about stairs last year I expected a big starcase, not those tiny little steps that most teams didn't even use anyway. i think that including full-size stairs in a game would be good. it worked with 6-inch ledges for 04, now all we need is a series of them in a row.
Jeff Waegelin
10-06-2004, 09:48
Try some of these threads. There's been lots of discussion on the 2005 game already
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=261517 - Official Game Design Thread
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28436 - Game Elements and Subtasks
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28437 - Radical Tournament Ideas
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28435 - Autonomy Discussion
thay should do something like water, u no like subs.
Michael Leicht
11-06-2004, 11:16
I Liked the idea of this years game with the many possibles instead of one or two. You had all different types of robots this year from hoppers to hangers. The 2x had a nice spin on things this year. That ball was a major thing this year. If not then hanging is the only way to go or mass number of balls.
but team this year with the robots mixed and matched with different element to win the game. like a hopper hanger such as 33. or hopper that can control the 2x ball like 303, or 469. can not forget the 2x and hanger like the beast 71. That why this years game should be like next years. I am not saying the same thing but have the different elements and not just two things. Also with the human play that was great to. I liked that idea bring that idea in a different way. Not just a shooter but have different idea. well next years game will hopefully make my head hurt this years did.
looneylin
17-06-2004, 11:06
i think rock climbing is a little too difficult for right now....but it is a neat idea :D
I like a stairs idea except all the robots start on a 8'x8' platform in the middle that have ten stairs leading up to it. It will have three ways to score including a medium task on the floor and the difficult task of carrying a non-uniform or awkward object up to the top of the stairs.
Wait. Quick rethought. Think 2003 except half stairs(at least five) half ramp (and no way else to get on the other side kind of). Higher scoring objects on stairs side but half to bring them up the stairs to score. Everyone starts in the middle. In the autonomous there are to "buttons" on the stair side. If these buttons are activated in autonoumous mode they will open a pathway on either side of the stairs ramp.
suneel112
17-06-2004, 13:11
I have a crazy Idea for next year's game. It involves totes, small balls, big balls, movable goals, a double-decker stationary goal, and a platform and a tall (12') bar, with approach bars leading up to the platform. It also has a home zone, like 2002. the only things that score points are small balls in goals or being in the home zone. Timing and the totes, big balls, goals, hanging, and platforming are multipliers. HUGE multipliers. For example, if you place balls in the tote, that is a 3x. movable goal is a 3x lower stationary goal is 4.5x upper removable goal is a 6x. big ball is 3x. small ball is 2 pts, and being in the home zone is 8 pts. ex. if you have 5 balls in a tote capped by a big ball, which is then placed in the upper stationary goal is 10 pts x 3 x 3 x 6 = 540 pts. Hanging is a 7x multiplier, touching the platform is a 2x multiplier, and hanging while touching the platform (with an appendage that won't affect the hanging) is 10x. if you hang, touch the platform, and touch your starting zone, that is 16x. there are four robots per field, 2 per side, like this year. I'll post a picture when I can find it.
Astronouth7303
17-06-2004, 15:23
You're making my head spin!
:confused: me to :confused:
adventrx327
23-06-2004, 00:59
i have a secret... its stored HERE
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.swf
hahahaha
Mike Ciance
23-06-2004, 01:34
i have a secret... its stored HERE
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.swf
hahahaha
come on, try and keep these boards more intelligent than that. i watch some stupid online things too, but a thread about next year's game is not the place to post about it.
They need to make a more important autonomouse mode. Like instead of just releasing balls early, have some points that can be scored in autonomouse and ONLY in autonomouse.
and maybe i should learn to spell autonymous
Matt_Kaplan1902
23-06-2004, 02:28
Somone has already posted this but people are still posting on this thread. If you want your ideas to be heard you have to post them here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...ad.php?p=261517 - Official Game Design Thread
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=28436 - Game Elements and Subtasks
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=28437 - Radical Tournament Ideas
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=28435 - Autonomy Discussion
Isn't the game already designed and they are desiging 06 now?
I reckon something that doesn't involve lifting things (Last 2 years have been - Crates. (03) Balls (04), Wont in volve dragging things (this year was dragging goals around sort of, and 02 was dragging the goal with balls round iirc,) it will involve something that can be done either speedily or accurately, (ie fast or manouverable , they tend not to go together.). I dont think it will involve water, as the electronics inside, and so you spend £5000 ounds on the sdtuff then it sinks in testing and you lose it all.
I doubt that next years game has been designed yet. They did not finish this years game until ..... With all the rule changes I think that they never finished this years game. With the field design etc not complete til jus before kickoff it shows that it takes time to design and modify fo the game.
Mike Ciance
23-06-2004, 10:44
I have a crazy Idea for next year's game. It involves totes, small balls, big balls, movable goals, a double-decker stationary goal, and a platform and a tall (12') bar, with approach bars leading up to the platform. It also has a home zone, like 2002. the only things that score points are small balls in goals or being in the home zone. Timing and the totes, big balls, goals, hanging, and platforming are multipliers. HUGE multipliers. For example, if you place balls in the tote, that is a 3x. movable goal is a 3x lower stationary goal is 4.5x upper removable goal is a 6x. big ball is 3x. small ball is 2 pts, and being in the home zone is 8 pts. ex. if you have 5 balls in a tote capped by a big ball, which is then placed in the upper stationary goal is 10 pts x 3 x 3 x 6 = 540 pts. Hanging is a 7x multiplier, touching the platform is a 2x multiplier, and hanging while touching the platform (with an appendage that won't affect the hanging) is 10x. if you hang, touch the platform, and touch your starting zone, that is 16x. there are four robots per field, 2 per side, like this year. I'll post a picture when I can find it.
the rules aren't THAT complicated, at least not to the point that it wouldn't become second nature after a little while, but the amount of equipment needed would really make post-seasons a hassle (considering i help out with brunswick eruption every year, i don't want that :ahh: )
NotQuiteFree
26-06-2004, 02:32
Let the speculation begin, I suppose...Waiting is half the fun, after all. ;)
Elgin Clock
26-06-2004, 03:47
Did someone say Inflatable Clowns? :D :rolleyes:
Did someone say Inflatable Clowns? :D :rolleyes:
SSSHHHHHHHHH!!!! Don't tell!
:D
-dave
speculation is creative and thus is very interesting.
Isn't the game already designed and they are desiging 06 now?
I reckon something that doesn't involve lifting things (Last 2 years have been - Crates. (03) Balls (04), Wont in volve dragging things (this year was dragging goals around sort of, and 02 was dragging the goal with balls round iirc,) it will involve something that can be done either speedily or accurately, (ie fast or manouverable , they tend not to go together.). I dont think it will involve water, as the electronics inside, and so you spend £5000 ounds on the sdtuff then it sinks in testing and you lose it all.
If there were going to be a liquid involved it would not be water, water conducts electricity, you would get some nasty shorts, it would be a huge hazard and people would probably get injured. If they were going to use a liquid it would be some kind of non-conductive oil. The problem with is it would rather nasty to have to fix an oil soaked robot, the whole arena would be covered in oil unless they had some kind of clean up station you had to go through after every match. But it would probably help with the stank.... kind of an oil bath....
If there were going to be a liquid involved it would not be water, water conducts electricity, you would get some nasty shorts, it would be a huge hazard and people would probably get injured. If they were going to use a liquid it would be some kind of non-conductive oil. The problem with is it would rather nasty to have to fix an oil soaked robot, the whole arena would be covered in oil unless they had some kind of clean up station you had to go through after every match. But it would probably help with the stank.... kind of an oil bath....
Oh No! I hear it comming now, the at least annual, dreaded, "water game thread". I don't know if I can handle that again, so I'm leaving now....
before it's too late
ChrisH
It should be strongly implied that i don't think it will happen next year or ever, it would just be to much of a mess to justify doing, its never going to happen.
Jeff Waegelin
01-07-2004, 12:52
Oh No! I hear it comming now, the at least annual, dreaded, "water game thread". I don't know if I can handle that again, so I'm leaving now....
before it's too late
ChrisH
I second that. It's one of those things that always comes up, every offseason, with the same exact discussion every time.
*hides*
Ryan Dognaux
07-07-2004, 18:31
Hey guys! I bet next year's game will include water/liquids/sand/mud/dirt/jello! :]
(Note all of these are unrealistic in the FIRST Robotics games, so it'd be a good idea to not suggest them... but I'm sure someone will.)
HEELLLP THE DREADED WATER GAME THREAD!!
:rolleyes:
It will not include water, its not possible, do you want to know how well a control panel works in water?!!!!! It would just cost too much for the teams as any small leak would wreck the whole lot. so stop this before it spreads lol
Billfred
08-07-2004, 11:38
(points to that ROV team that just won the national championship)
Water game bashing aside, I've got this thing going in my head. Consider past fields. Wide open spaces, with the occasional obstacle (whether it be a platform, a robot, some bins, or a ball). Perhaps this year we'll see a more technical field, something that'll test the robot and the driver.
Or maybe that's my personal preference...I'm a sucker for uneven terrain, whether it's dirt (I know, I know...) or platforms or just scoring objects that are a pain in the boo-tay to get past.
bhweezer
08-07-2004, 15:25
I think it would be a cool idea to see footballs used in next year's game. They are unpredicatable. To score you would have to throw the ball through hoops standing vertical in the field. The hoops would have a net on the back end to hold the balls thrown through.
CourtneyB
08-07-2004, 16:43
ya that would be so cool if it involved using footballs! football is the best sport ever.
Beth Sweet
08-07-2004, 16:55
Ok, this is an official warning of another crazy Beth idea. Please, take caution before reading. ;)
I want to see a game that has something to do with robots emitting sounds. A certain sound (a pitch at a certain frequency) would release a different scoring "possibility." There could be multiple pitches and teams could work together, robots only being allowed to give off one pitch per game. Mind you that there would be more to the game than just the pitches, but I think that sounds may be a cool idea. It would bring a new aspect to the game that I don't believe has been a part of any FIRST game in the past.
Lil' Lavery
11-07-2004, 23:48
thank god, no1 has PMed me about the game. and before you do, I HAVE NO FRIGGIN CLUE TO WHAT IT IS. although I highly doubt it will involve footballs or sounds(although smells is still a possibility...)
cvhsrobotics
12-07-2004, 21:53
Is there a chance we might get two different courses wont that "rase the bar" I would be cool to go from course to course
plutonium83
14-07-2004, 23:31
Maybe a walking challenge? Or a field made out of snow and ice :D
It could be a revision of an old game.
henryBsick
15-07-2004, 01:10
thank god, no1 has PMed me about the game. and before you do, I HAVE NO FRIGGIN CLUE TO WHAT IT IS. although I highly doubt it will involve footballs or sounds(although smells is still a possibility...)
Funny story.
At IRI, your dad was looking at my team's 3 speed sotf trannies. He asked how we were going to improve them for next year. We said weight and size, which are normal things to improve upon. Soon after he began to leave, looked up, and said somthing to the tune of "I hope you will need a transmission like that for next year." It drove me crazy just thinking about what kind of game wouldn't involve a multiple speed sotf tranny. I have now stopped thinking about it because, 1) It hurts the brain because of N possibilities. 2) I drove me mad again, because of N possibilities.
I am getting out of thinking for the new game while I can, WITH my sanity.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :ahh: :yikes:
I hope it gives everyone out there something to go off of. :p
-Henry
Funny story.
At IRI, your dad was looking at my team's 3 speed sotf trannies. He asked how we were going to improve them for next year. We said weight and size, which are normal things to improve upon. Soon after he began to leave, looked up, and said somthing to the tune of "I hope you will need a transmission like that for next year." It drove me crazy just thinking about what kind of game wouldn't involve a multiple speed sotf tranny. I have now stopped thinking about it because, 1) It hurts the brain because of N possibilities. 2) I drove me mad again, because of N possibilities.
I am getting out of thinking for the new game while I can, WITH my sanity.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :ahh: :yikes:
I hope it gives everyone out there something to go off of. :p
-Henry
The statement contradicts itself. It all depends where the comma falls. Either "I hope, you will need a transmision...." Which means you need one.
Or " I hope you will need a transmission...." Which could mean that you won't need something like that.
It's a hard statement to read. Dave's famous for statements like this
D.J. Fluck
15-07-2004, 03:13
The source of a great game next year.
Hockey Pucks
Must use hockey pucks :p
Katie Reynolds
15-07-2004, 12:35
The source of a great game next year.
Hockey Pucks
Must use hockey pucks :p Actually, hockey pucks would be pretty cool. The won't pop (balls), they won't shatter (bins) ... and they would actually be pretty difficult to manipulate, as they're so small.
Hmmmm ... :yikes:
Corey Balint
15-07-2004, 12:54
Hockey pucks would be amazing, but the major problem i can see, is that they wont move well on a carpet surface, so that would have to change.
It would make it alot tougher for teams to build a base that is very mobile. Because to push a hockey puck, you need to get almost completely on the ground. And many hang ups on the possible obstacles on the field could occur. I just think that may make it too tough of a challenge.
I also think Team 66, the Flyers, would have a huge handicap since they are the best team ever.
Lil' Lavery
15-07-2004, 16:29
YES HOCKEY PUCKS!! NOW I CAN HAVE A CHANCE AT HUMAN PLAYER TOO! :p
hockey pucks would be so cool. And they can move on pretty much any surface if you get hte street hockey variety. The field could be basically an air hockey table, or some slippery surface otherwise.
But wait, this gives my dad another reason to tell the tooth story!(it collected pucks) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
;)
and as for the transmission "clue". Hes dropped random clues to many a team, and very few are true. Especially considering I know the game wasnt selected on monday, and I have no clue if it is now..... :confused:
Yeah, he said something to some people from our team about walking robots.
Lil' Lavery
15-07-2004, 19:49
Hes given out that clue for a while and to several different teams. He told 116 that last year, and look how it turned out....
Hes given out that clue for a while and to several different teams. He told 116 that last year, and look how it turned out....
You WERE suppose to build the walking robot to get up the steps. It say that it was a legit tip. Stairs next year yay. Yay to my holonomic stair-climbing robot.
:rolleyes:
Elgin Clock
16-07-2004, 01:29
Hes given out that clue for a while and to several different teams. He told 116 that last year, and look how it turned out....
I'm surprised FIRST didn't require him to have YOU sign a confidentiality agreement juts in case he "slips" and gives you a real clue..
Then again, maybe I am underestimating him.
I must learn to understand the complexities of today's engineers if I plan on working along side them. (CAD Drafter)
Rich Wong
16-07-2004, 10:49
The source of a great game next year.
Hockey Pucks
Must use hockey pucks :p
Hockey Pucks would be cool....especially with the FIRST LOGO printed on it!
(an immediated collectors item)
:cool:
The source of a great game next year.
Hockey Pucks
Must use hockey pucks :p
Not spectator friendly.
Jeff Waegelin
16-07-2004, 11:33
Not spectator friendly.
That could be a problem, there... hockey pucks are kinda hard to see. They might blend in with the carpet too easily. Now... if we were to play the game on ice... :p
Rich Wong
16-07-2004, 12:09
Pucks have a nice property about them-
They are indestructible (almost)
They do not have to be slapped with a hockey stick
They stack very well
They roll very well too
You can stick reflective dots on them
You can fill all types of containers with pucks
:)
i have seen street pucks that are in all different colors and also ones that had leds in them to light them up. i think a street puck would be a great item to use in a first competition...
Hes given out that clue for a while and to several different teams. He told 116 that last year, and look how it turned out....
I'm surprised FIRST didn't require him to have YOU sign a confidentiality agreement juts in case he "slips" and gives you a real clue..
Then again, maybe I am underestimating him.
I must learn to understand the complexities of today's engineers if I plan on working along side them. (CAD Drafter)
Hhhmmmmmm. I am reminded of a previous post on this topic in this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22610&highlight=misinformation). To whit:
One would also have to wonder if, by admitting that we can't trust his post regarding misinformation, he knew we would all have to then question whether it was the original post that was false, or the post was correct but the original information behind the post was false.
Then, of course knowing that if I told him something even accidentally that it might end up on this board, I might tell him that everything I might say in the future would be false. Knowing that, he might want to give you a warning that anything I were to let slip, and he were to pass on, would be suspect. I could use that to ensure that everything I said would not be believed, and therefore not passed on. Or if it were passed on it would automatically be interpreted as misinformation, and everyone would assume the inverse was actually true. But knowing that, I could intentionally tell him misinformation, knowing that it would be interpreted as misinformation by him and inverted, and he would then unintentionally post the truth, which would be interpreted as misinformation and - knowing it was misinformation - the inverse (which was actually the inverted truth) would then be revealed to everyone. But since you now know that is possible, I would never do that. But I could just tell him misinformation, and he wold interpret it as such, and then post the truth, but everyone else would think that is was inverted truth and not believe it but believe the inverse. So then they would actually be believing the truth. But we already know that I would never leak out anything true, and since I know the potential for the above scenario, I would never let it happen, so everything that I would tell him would have to be real information only, which would then be interpreted as misinformation, inverted by him and posted as real information, misinterpreted as misinformation by you and inverted to be believed as real information, but since you know I would never reveal real information it would then be believed to be misinformation and inverted again into actual misinformation and incorrectly believed to be real information. Or not.
How do you know that he is really even one of my kids anyway?
-dave
Hhhmmmmmm. I am reminded of a previous post on this topic in this thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22610&highlight=misinformation). To whit:
-dave
So dave, did Jeff's head explode yet, cause mine is about to...!
Lil' Lavery
16-07-2004, 15:19
That could be a problem, there... hockey pucks are kinda hard to see. They might blend in with the carpet too easily. Now... if we were to play the game on ice... :p
Or HDPE......
Jeff Waegelin
16-07-2004, 15:48
Or HDPE......
I was thinking about that one, myself. HDPE would be much easier to use than ice, but it's also rather expensive. Not that maintaining ice wouldn't be expensive, too (and probably more expensive), but the cost of field materials is something that must be taken into consideration.
Lil' Lavery
16-07-2004, 19:35
Not only maintaining the ice, but finding venues that have an ice surface prepared for use for regional competitions, and it would be virtually impossible for teams to make practice fields also.
tiffany34990
16-07-2004, 19:40
yep i agree-- to make a practice area out of ice in lovely florida-- a bit of a problem--all well-- it's all good-- whatever game we have next year--it'll be cool and make us think
mtaman02
16-07-2004, 23:01
Ok
Note to all::::::
There is about 4 other threads that contain what your posting. Please read over the threads and post in them before creating a new thread...... it makes searches alot more easier and scouting a lot quicker......
To have everything in at least one or 2 areas is alot better then 10 different areas with all the same comments in them.....
As far as 2005 game is concerned.... what ever you guess now may be added into the game but the difficulty in completing it will increase. remember "DAVE" is watching he's like santa claus he knows what you want for x-mas and if ure really good he may give it to you. =D
Billfred
17-07-2004, 19:28
I was just thinking the other day...suppose we had a tag team match. Three on three, and one robot just sits out until tagged by another team (presumably in some zone). I'm pretty sure the IFI stuff can handle assign the frequencies, although someone feel free to correct me.
Lil' Lavery
17-07-2004, 20:02
The problem with a tag team match is that there will be plenty of matches where one robot sits out the entire match(a rookie team paired with outstanding vet teams). A) The obvious, they wouldnt be having fun, doing anything with their 6 weeks of toil, ect. B)If their alliance partners win, they get a rankings boost while never taking the field C)If we dont give them points if they dont take the field, they might only get one or two matches worth of points
Not only maintaining the ice, but finding venues that have an ice surface prepared for use for regional competitions, and it would be virtually impossible for teams to make practice fields also.
Naw, thats what liquid O2 is for :ahh: . Where's my number to the supplier down the street...
karinka13
16-08-2004, 01:28
I say melt all the ice and play the game on water...make the robots slightly waterproof and add floatation devices...or you could go for the submarine aspect...
IndianChieftain
16-08-2004, 10:15
i loved two ideas on this thread... the stairs and the water. but the water wud be kinda hard with a lot of expensive electronic equipment on board.
the stairs wud be a neat idea if something more was added and make the stairs look "not so challenging". well but anywayz, whatever the first officials decide its gonna make our heads hurt for sure
What I would really love to see is having the teams try to solve a problem that is real scientists are trying to solve right now. Wouldn't it be cool if a team came up with a robot design that could solve one of the world's worst problems? Talk about FIRST publicity!
How is this for a 'real' problem. Marine debris, trash in the water, junk in the rivers and lakes is a serious problem. Most people don't know about it because it is out of sight, out of mind. Last year volunteers pulled out over 2,200 tires from the Potomac river basin. It got us to thinking, if FIRST students can pick up things about the size of a tire (rack and roll), how about a real tire!!
So in the off season we are working on a robot, actually two robots to be used to collect marine debris. There are a couple of articles about it on our website at http://www.kellrobotics.org
This is a tough project but as Woodie said recently at the kickoff it is supposed to be hard.
Anyone want to help out ? collaborative design ? what say you ? It will be something to work on during the off season !!
Seraph117
16-01-2008, 21:29
i have a secret... its stored HERE
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.swf
hahahaha
dude,
i have one thing to say to you...
BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER
Don't you guys have robots to build or something?
=Martin=Taylor=
17-01-2008, 00:46
Don't you guys have robots to build or something?
Don't YOU have robots to build :D As for me... I'm waiting for parts... :mad:
Don't you have some dates to check? The question was answered by "tetras.":D
ExarKun666
23-04-2008, 22:11
Do you think hybrid mode for autonomous should be implemented next year?
I think this thread should go back to the grave...:) I would make a new thread of the discussion of that topic.
-Vivek
I think this thread should go back to the grave... I would make a new thread of the discussion of that topic.
-VivekYep. 2004, revived early this year, re-revived now. Kill it.
jasper.s.jacobs
23-04-2008, 22:24
does anyone know when the gdc starts making the game for the next year?
does anyone know when the gdc starts making the game for the next year?
last year.
.
Herodotus
23-04-2008, 23:15
When will the game piece finally be Krispy Kremes? I can see it now. Stack donuts onto a pole and deliver them to your human player for an eating contest. Tasty Tower.
Defense would be quite delicious in that game.
last year.
.
I suppose this is why the games are so well put together and Dave gets to torment us for 8 months a year.
-Vivek
i dont even want to think about the game yet its going to drive me crazy:ahh:
XaulZan11
23-04-2008, 23:22
When will the game piece finally be Krispy Kremes? I can see it now. Stack donuts onto a pole and deliver them to your human player for an eating contest. Tasty Tower.
Darn! Why was it when I was human player I just got to throw poof balls or toss a few rings on the field?
ExarKun666
23-04-2008, 23:22
That's not half bad, good idea there. Another thing you could do is instead of that just have a competition where you basically have to go to the opponents side of the field, where you pick up an 'order' that they have written down between three objects, and there would be 3 different colored plated on the opponents wall, each corresponding to a different food, yo then get one of those colored (metal) plates go over to your side where the three pieces are and then carry them to the opponent's side, and which ever team delivers all three the fastest wins, so your robot can have two strategies 1) defend by blocking other bots from either getting one of the colored plates or getting the food and brining it back or 2) play offense, and actually carry the items back and forth.
Protronie
23-04-2008, 23:25
The source of a great game next year.
Hockey Pucks
Must use hockey pucks :p
Oh Yeah!!!
ROBOT HOCKEY!
Robots would have to be built to play either goal or forward...
Face off could be auto mode then players take over...could be a real action packed game. Can't wait to see them drop the gloves :eek:
-p :cool:
Rick TYler
24-04-2008, 01:18
i dont even want to think about the game yet its going to drive me crazy:ahh:
Try not to think about it. You don't want to let Lavery get into your head.
I have been mentoring FRC for about 7 years now, and have seen all types of games. This years was the best by far. Like the previous posts, this years game provided alot of different ideas from the masses. Great work to all that perticipated. Gives a person alot to think about for next year, and with the new controllers for next year, it should be very interesting what they will have for us.
What I would like to see is an obstical course that would have many different problelms in order to teams to solve and score points as a group not by any individual robot/team. This would involve autonomous, colors, over and under objects, around things, moving different objects and placing in difficult and easy place for points. Teams could go from one end of the field to the other and return. Bonus points for the best completion time, or points for completing portions of the field.
There are so many possabilities. Let's see what everyone can come up with, maybe even design a game yourself. The thinking that I saw this year has made me proud to be a mentor in First Robotic.
Let's make those brains hurt with new ideas.
:yikes: :cool:
Wayne C.
24-04-2008, 11:46
Next year's game-
Clowns
there- it has been said
(revision- clowns with glowing green eyes)
Justin Montois
24-04-2008, 11:51
Oh Yeah!!!
ROBOT HOCKEY!
Robots would have to be built to play either goal or forward...
Face off could be auto mode then players take over...could be a real action packed game. Can't wait to see them drop the gloves :eek:
-p :cool:
PLEASE!!! :) :)
Anything but floppies...
Maybe we could use HD-DVD's... they seem to be really cheap right now :p
The thing I really like in a game is different robot classes. 2007 was interesting because there were two completely different objectives and robots needed to rely on eachother to do both. This year, this wasnt the case.
2004 was interesting because there was like 740 objectives and 2 robots to do it with. 2006 was a fun game in the aspect that we were doing something different than any prior game (shooting) but I still have to say that 2007 was better.
If we could do 4 or 5 objectives in 2004 with 2 robots on an alliance, I don't see why 4 or 5 scoring options couldn't be done with 3 robots on an alliance. I would like to see a little variety. I like the idea of an easy scoring option, but I think there needs to be a need for a few options.
Rick TYler
24-04-2008, 12:14
Wouldn't it be cool if a team came up with a robot design that could solve one of the world's worst problems?
I don't see how a robot could keep teenagers from leaving their stuff all over the house, but I guess anything is possible. :]
Anything but floppies...
Aw, but floppies were great, and when you were finished with the competition you could use them for packing material for your crate! I think I still have one or two laying around . . SOMEWHERE.
GaryVoshol
24-04-2008, 15:27
A few years back the team had problems with critters getting into snacks. I asked if the team didn't have a few of those stacking boxes around ... problem solved until kids forgot to put the cover on tightly.
Ashley Christine
24-04-2008, 16:00
Please no clowns! Thats all I have to say about that one!
Please no clowns! Thats all I have to say about that one!
too late...
http://www.sunnytheclown.net/db4/00346/sunnytheclown.net/_uimages/clown.jpg
waialua359
24-04-2008, 16:44
I'd like to see 4 on 4 for the following reasons.
More matches to play.
More strategizing.
Greater chance to be with/against other teams, especially at CMP.
More finalist/regional winner awards to give out. :D
I realize that would be a crowded field and a greater chance of robots not having a major role, however, with the right game and right field setup, it can be done.
After spending so much time, effort, and $$$$, I would want to have the opportunity to play as much as we can.
Also, how about more awards at the division level? Gives everyone a greater opportunity to win something. Leave the CA and EI as the overall award again.
And finally, lets randomize the team # before creating the divisions. I'd like to finally have a chance to play with team 358, since under the current system, we cannot. Even team #1 has to play in the same division year after year. That's probably worse.
Ashley Christine
24-04-2008, 16:46
(I highly dislike you for that Dave!!! That is so creepy!) lol :rolleyes:
If we had clowns like that I bet half the FLL kids will leave the event in tears (if they even get up the courage to show up!!)
(I highly dislike you for that... that is so creepy!) lol :rolleyes:
nah, THIS is creepy...
http://www.frightstudios.com/image/maskscat/fullmasks/clown7big.jpg
(and we strongly discourage making any comparisons between this image and JVN before his morning cup of coffee)
-dave
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Wayne C.
24-04-2008, 17:07
THATS the Ticket!!!!!-
for the details look up in the White Pages "Send in the Clowns" a game proposed in 2003(?)
WC
hmmm- potential McDonalds sponsor, PT Barnum theme, .........I'm Lovin' It
JaneYoung
24-04-2008, 17:16
nah, THIS is creepy...
http://www.frightstudios.com/image/maskscat/fullmasks/clown7big.jpg
(and we strongly discourage making any comparisons between this image and JVN before his morning cup of coffee)
-dave
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oh Brandon...
is there any kind of warning than can sound when one clicks on a thread that Dave has posted in? I clicked and this clown jumped out at me. I was not happy. Scared yes, happy no. *sigh*
...I'm going to file this little episode away....
Dhananjay T.
24-04-2008, 17:41
nah, THIS is creepy...
http://www.frightstudios.com/image/maskscat/fullmasks/clown7big.jpg
(and we strongly discourage making any comparisons between this image and JVN before his morning cup of coffee)
-dave
.
could it be?!
Next year's game hint?!!!:eek:
11Mort11
24-04-2008, 17:59
next years game is going to be crazy
there is so much more we can do with the new control system
GaryVoshol
24-04-2008, 18:33
oh Brandon...
is there any kind of warning than can sound when one clicks on a thread that Dave has posted in? I clicked and this clown jumped out at me. I was not happy. Scared yes, happy no. *sigh*
...I'm going to file this little episode away....
And so you quoted it so someone else could see it twice? How nice of you, Jane. Pleasant dreams.
JaneYoung
24-04-2008, 18:37
And so you quoted it so someone else could see it twice? How nice of you, Jane. Pleasant dreams.
*innocent eyes*
why Gary, whatever could you mean?
DAVE! Not cool, I almost cried at that picture. Very creepy.
Stop posting pictures of yourself on CD. Seriously.
lingomaniac88
24-04-2008, 21:38
When will the game piece finally be Krispy Kremes? I can see it now. Stack donuts onto a pole and deliver them to your human player for an eating contest. Tasty Tower.
Defense would be quite delicious in that game.
Bad idea. All the game pieces would be gone before the first practice match. :P
GaryVoshol
24-04-2008, 21:52
Practice match? We'd never get that far. The GDC wouldn't be able to complete their testing of the field elements.
Practice match? We'd never get that far. The GDC wouldn't be able to complete their testing of the field elements.
Did you mean "testing" or "tasting"?
:)
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Protronie
24-04-2008, 22:18
Whats so good about Krispy Kream? Now Dunkin Donuts!... they worth gold medals! Double D has better coffee too :D
ExarKun666
24-04-2008, 22:33
Here's a pic of what my game idea, game field would look like.
Key:
Black = boundaries
Blue = lines
Green = ball
Brown = ladder setups
Orange = box
Red = start positions
So the game would basically be around the same dimensions as this year, there would be six wall like things but instead of glass it would have horizontal bars going across from post to post. The teams would have to get horse shoes, or something similar and place the horse shoes on the horizontal bars, the higher up the more points, then as a second strategy the teams could defend by taking the horse shoes off (BTW there are two different colored horse shoes to tell form alliances) Then a third strategy to this game would be the lines where the robot would have to weave in and out of the lines, and for every other line it crossed it would et like 2 points, then the bonus for the extra 12 points would be to go to the center of the ring and get the ONE ball and bring it over to there alliance station wall and put it in the box (with no lid, and is wide enough so it is possible for the opposing team to get the ball out of the box) For autonomous each line crossed would be 4 points, and for each horse shoe it would be determined by the height at which it was placed.
Ashley Christine
24-04-2008, 22:34
That clown sends shivers down my spine. Not nice! :( lol
And I am not even THAT afraid of clowns.
And I think Libby is right Dave - you really shouldn't post pictures of yourself like that... the ones you already post are scary enough! :P
lingomaniac88
24-04-2008, 22:38
I got it! Edible Rack 'n Roll! With freshly glazed Krispy Kreme ringers (so... good...) and a rack made of candy canes and chocolate! Yum!
I know that was last year's game, but the donuts...
Pavan Dave
24-04-2008, 22:44
I'm betting right now that we will have to run over some obstacles that can "explode" or "run over" our robots. Why? Because we wouldn't have switched over to NI's bomb-proof cRio for no reason would we? And I don't think the game design committee would not use the KoP to its FULL potential.
... Dave, what do you think?
Pavan
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All right now, guys. Dave, I think you need to have Heidi put you in a clown suit. Game ideas should probably wait a little bit...
And has no one else noticed that the thread is from 2004? The original question was answered in 2005. It's now 2008 and the thread is being used to discuss the 2009 game. 4 years...that's the typical time of a high school student in FIRST.
Ashley Christine
25-04-2008, 10:36
I noticed that too!
Laaba 80
25-04-2008, 21:39
I'd like to see 4 on 4 for the following reasons.
More matches to play.
More strategizing.
Greater chance to be with/against other teams, especially at CMP.
More finalist/regional winner awards to give out. :D
I realize that would be a crowded field and a greater chance of robots not having a major role, however, with the right game and right field setup, it can be done.
After spending so much time, effort, and $$$$, I would want to have the opportunity to play as much as we can.
I would personally like to see 3v3v3 or 2v2v2. I think that would be so interesting and fun to play.
Joey
neutrino15
25-04-2008, 23:20
stair-climbing would be cool.
Square wheels?
^ whegs. yes, whegs.
-vivek
I would personally like to see 3v3v3 or 2v2v2. I think that would be so interesting and fun to play.
JoeyThat'll be another 1v1v1. The result: "Since collusion, intentional or not, cannot be prevented, it will now be required."--Woodie Flowers, 1999 Kickoff
The background: In the 1998 game, FIRST had noticed that none of the top 10 teams on Friday were there on Saturday. They looked at the matches and found that the two lower teams ganged up on the higher-seeded team. Intentional or not, nobody really knew.
The result was 2v2 alliances, expanded to 3v3 in 2005.
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