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I heard that there will be new regionals in Mexico, Israel, Brazil and Italy.
Is that true??
Jeff_Rice
03-09-2004, 16:04
AFAIK there are no teams in italy, mexico, or israel, and there are only two teams from brazil. So I doubt it.
I heard that there will be new regionals in Mexico, Israel, Brazil and Italy.
Is that true??
One of those four is true.
-dave
And there may be new teams from some of those countries :)
tribotec_ca88
03-09-2004, 16:40
haha lavery are you really not going to tell us which one it is and leave us hanging??? ;)
well I think can help narrow down the choices: it's NOT Brazil. Long story.
. . . or is it??? has anyone been told otherwise?? well, come to think of it, the "lack" of the regional hasn't been officially announced...but summing up all the information i've been receiving for the past few weeks has led me to believe that a 2005 Brazilian regional is very unlikely...
my bet would be israel. just going with my inner instincts
Billfred
03-09-2004, 16:45
One of those four is true.
-dave I do recall hearing some rumor of an Israeli regional...although how that happened is beyond me, given the number of teams in the country (currently, according to my memory, zero). Of course, there could be a surge of rookies in there.
Actually, I'd find it somewhat interesting to see what would happen if you had a regional's worth of teams half a world away. Sure, the internet would let them see what Americans, Canadians, Brits, and Brazilians were doing, but even within this country we've got different styles of play among different regions. (It was really noted leading up to the Championship...see also: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28107&highlight=strategy ) So what happens when we don't have regional styles (like the Midwest's offense versus the Northeast's heavy D) clashing like that?
If any teams that compete at such a regional come to Atlanta, I'd be more than interested in seeing how they play the game.
Jeff Rodriguez
03-09-2004, 16:56
I HIGHLY doubt there will be an Israeli regional. I don't think any school board would approve the trip. I don't think many parents would want their kids to go. I wouldn't go. It's way to dangerous. Just think what could happen if 500 American kids came for trip, and were all gathered in one place.
Katie Reynolds
03-09-2004, 17:29
I do recall hearing some rumor of an Israeli regional...although how that happened is beyond me, given the number of teams in the country (currently, according to my memory, zero).
*Mentor speaking to the team*
"Alright guys, we're going to two regionals this year ... since we always go to the Midwest regional, we'll be doing that one ... let's vote on the other one. We've got ... Orlando, Seattle, New York, Toronto and Israel. Who wants to go where?"
... I just can't see that happening. And like Ogre said, I can't imagine many school districts would be too fond of the idea, let alone parents!
As far as I see it, the only one that would make sense to hold would be a Brazil regional. Well, maybe one in Mexico too, depending on where in the country it was held... Italy would be tons of fun to go to but it doesn't make any sense, as far as travel and things are concerned, to hold a regional in an area with very few to no teams.
$0.02
Arefin Bari
03-09-2004, 18:09
One of those four is true.
-dave
No matter what, Lavery always has to leave us wondering about the topic... :) ... i would go with a regional in Brazil since there are two teams in brazil... i would love to see regionals in italy, mexico or israel even though a lot of team will need great amount of money...
J Flex 188
03-09-2004, 18:18
thats a very good point. unforunately, rather unlike FIRST competition (notice I didnt say build seasons ;)) politics and exteunating circumstances can leave everything to chance, which no school board is willing to take. A lot of Canadian school boards barred teams from going in 2003, I remember we didnt know if we would be going to west michigan until after the Canadian Regional (partly with our finish there) which was the next weekend!
A regional in mexico would make the most sense after Brazil (which supposedly isnt happening). It would be awesome if the FRC could be become as international as Lego League though =). think the Atlanta championships this year and all the anthems!
I HIGHLY doubt there will be an Israeli regional. I don't think any school board would approve the trip. I don't think many parents would want their kids to go. I wouldn't go. It's way to dangerous. Just think what could happen if 500 American kids came for trip, and were all gathered in one place.
Joe Ross
03-09-2004, 18:19
What if FIRST were to put a regional in a foreign country, not so that other teams would travel there, or because there was already support in that country, but as a way to build support in a country they want to expand into?
Elgin Clock
03-09-2004, 19:06
One of those four is true.
-dave
But... is it for the FRC, or the FLL competition? :]
FLL is more international than the FRC is.
Katie Reynolds
03-09-2004, 19:08
What if FIRST were to put a regional in a foreign country, not so that other teams would travel there, or because there was already support in that country, but as a way to build support in a country they want to expand into? !! That would be cool ... and if that were the case, I could see FIRST expanding to any one of those regions and opening a regional there.
J Flex 188
03-09-2004, 21:50
the problem would be what if not enough or even no teams showed up? takes alot more resources money to travel that far. Perhaps FIRST could do some sort of hosting there, either holding the kickoff there and broadcasting it like they do now, or have a giant screen set up, much like the leafs in hockey do if we're on the road in the playoffs.
Ken Loyd
03-09-2004, 22:38
I would think Italy would be the best choice. All of Europe would be at their doorstep. Championship on Saturday...Mass with the Pope on Sunday. Does anyone know if the Colosseum is available?
CourtneyB
03-09-2004, 22:51
Italy would be awsome. Every part of Italy is beautiful. Plus everyone is so nice there and it would totally make it fun to have a regional there.
Greg Needel
03-09-2004, 23:17
first of i have been to israel many times and even in the past few years...Israel is safe, it is just that all you hear about is the bad stuff that happends. when infact there is less crime then new york city. but i doubt the israel regional because of the shabbat. unlike the us where everything is open all the time. on shabbat in israel EVERYTHING shuts down. so from friday to saturday night nobody could work and i think it would be hard to find a venue.
but on a side note if there is an israeli regional i will be the first person to volenteer!
Amanda Morrison
04-09-2004, 00:38
Joe is exactly right: Who says the regional is for us? :)
I like that idea.
Ryan Dognaux
04-09-2004, 01:20
Mexico definately makes the most sense, there are a lot of newer teams springing up down there.
Israel already has many student robotic teams. They just aren't FIRST. Every year, Israel sends many teams to the robot/firefighting competition at Trinity college in Conn., for starters. They save money by staying with host families. My in-laws have hosted dozens over the years.
Kevin Sevcik
04-09-2004, 20:42
AFAIK there are no teams in italy, mexico, or israel, and there are only two teams from brazil. So I doubt it.
FYI, There are two teams from Mexico. The is also a team from Ecuador. I dunno about Italian teams, but I've heard things about plans for israeli teams.
Joshua May
04-09-2004, 20:58
If there will be enough Israeli teams, I would have to place my bets on an Israeli regional, because at least with Brazil, Mexico, and Ecuador they are in the same hemisphere.
Israel already has many student robotic teams. They just aren't FIRST. Every year, Israel sends many teams to the robot/firefighting competition at Trinity college in Conn., for starters. They save money by staying with host families. My in-laws have hosted dozens over the years.
For those of you who have asked, here is the link for the Trinity College event.
www.trincoll.edu/events/robot
shyra1353
07-09-2004, 16:54
I think it will be in Brazil. There were rumours about a Brazil regional for 2005 earlier last year and a whole thread on how it was going to happen.
Jillian B.
07-09-2004, 17:49
I am hearing from a hopefully very reliable source that the Israeli regional is for real. But as said earlier, I don't think it is specifically for us. Who knows? Guess we will find out soon enough.
Still wish there was an Italian regional.
~ Jill
I say Israel.
:cool:
Wetzel
Joshua May
10-09-2004, 19:13
According to this (http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/reg_open.htm) page, there are only 4 new regionals and they're all in the US and Canada:
Las Vegas, NV
Rochester, NY
Waterloo, Ontario
West Lafayette, IN
LBK Rules
11-09-2004, 03:36
I know a speaker at they VCU reginal said that there was an Israeli team forming.
I think the easiest to start, governmently, would be an Italian reginal.
I shure do hope for a regional in Israel.
That would be awesome! If I had money for a plane ticket, I would seriously consider going.
to suggest another location... Why not UK?!
IT would make sense in some aspects .. ... eg the language is the same, its in Europe, so all the European teams could come, its safer than places such as Israel (no offense intended) and its easy for referees or anyone who wanted to come over from America to get here
£0.02 :P
I shure do hope for a regional in Israel
That would be awesome! If I had money for a plane ticket, I would seriously consider going.
While it would be cool, Im guessing that administrators and parents in the US would never let students travel there.
I'm Jewish (albeit not akll that observant) and I have absolutely no desire to vivist Israel, for obvious reasons.
Cory
unapiedra
09-01-2005, 22:25
I would think Italy would be the best choice. All of Europe would be at their doorstep. Championship on Saturday...Mass with the Pope on Sunday. Does anyone know if the Colosseum is available?
Besides your jokes I really would like to see a regional in Europe (Italy is fine ;-) ) because I plan to start a team next year in Germany.
Does anyone know if there are and how many teams in other countries (I just know Israel and Brazil)
We talked about this before and the Regional is official... ISRAEL!!! :0) http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30523&highlight=israel+regional
and
http://www.usfirst.org/frc/public/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=event_stats.htm&-findany
Besides your jokes I really would like to see a regional in Europe (Italy is fine ;-) ) because I plan to start a team next year in Germany.
Does anyone know if there are and how many teams in other countries (I just know Israel and Brazil) \o/
UK ! UK ! UK!
there are 2 teams here now. and a french team (failed to register in time....) and there was a german team, they just didn't build a robot 2 years ago and have heard nothing since.
If you want any info or want to talk to us, www.systemetric.org (http://www.systemetric.org)
or email team.759@gmail.com
unapiedra
10-01-2005, 10:25
We should try to get a European regional and push this issue at FIRST.
The Israelis got their regional so maybe one day Europe and South/Middle America get theirs.
And what's about the rest of the world: In Australia, Asia, Africa and the middle East are also students.
That would be a great school project supporting a robotics team in South Africa or the Iraq (maybe in a few years when it is safer).
Our partner team (Lancaster HS) is supporting with NASA one team in Israel with knowledge and tools. That would be something good to do.
Zanella BR
10-01-2005, 12:12
FLL is present in 20 countries...
I worked as a referee during the first FLL Brazil, in 2004.
A FRC regional in Brazil would be great, not only for Brazilian teams, but all the Latin America could participate too.
tkwetzel
10-01-2005, 15:40
The Israeli regional came to reality largely in part to a former FRC competitor. I am not sure how much FIRST did in getting the teams and the funding for them, but I do know that the Israeli branch of GM is sponsoring all the teams and the regional (I believe). Unless there is a driving force to get another foreign regional, I don't think FIRST will put foward much effort to get one (unless the Israeli regional goes well and spreads the word of FIRST to get a lot more teams involved).
Hello.
I'm from Israel and we have a Regional.
Now thats that. :D
we have 12 teams, all rookies. :)
any other questions? :p
-Leav
Proof (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=webeventdates.fp5&-lay=web&-format=map_query_events.htm&-error=noevents_redir.htm&year=2005&_key_state_country_calc=Haifa-Israel&-find.x=24&-find.y=9)
Zanella BR
11-01-2005, 06:45
Hello.
I'm from Israel and we have a Regional.
Now thats that. :D
we have 12 teams, all rookies. :)
any other questions? :p
-Leav
Proof (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=webeventdates.fp5&-lay=web&-format=map_query_events.htm&-error=noevents_redir.htm&year=2005&_key_state_country_calc=Haifa-Israel&-find.x=24&-find.y=9)
In the future Brazil will have its own regional, I promess :D
It's hard to bring FRC, but it's not impossible.
I've heard about a team from Ecuador... somebody saw that?
which regional are you going to?
What happend here is that Some people talked to a GM reps. here in israel, they agreed to sponsor the event.
Talk to your board of education, get more schools involved!
get them to support the program.
you can send letters, e-mails and pettitions.
-Leav
Zanella BR
11-01-2005, 08:02
which regional are you going to?
What happend here is that Some people talked to a GM reps. here in israel, they agreed to sponsor the event.
Talk to your board of education, get more schools involved!
get them to support the program.
you can send letters, e-mails and pettitions.
-Leav
We're going to the New Jersey Regional for the second time this year.
unapiedra
11-01-2005, 13:30
We're going to the New Jersey Regional for the second time this year.
How are you gonna pay for that? How many students will go there from your team, I can imagine that it might be really expensive.
Do you have problems getting the visa? I know a lot of exchange students having problems getting their visa.
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