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LBK Rules
07-10-2004, 00:20
Apparently, Autodesk is coming out with a new version of 3ds max annaualy, and that means our team will have only one license for 6, and one for 7. What we need is several licenses for one version, especialy since we are not a school, severl people want to work on our animation, and our laptop is a Celeron and I have to use SW rendering or the PC locks up.

Unless of course Autodesk gives us more than one license! :D

Raven_Writer
07-10-2004, 08:39
This is pretty cool, I think.

I've never used v6 yet, but I hope to when we get our K.o.P. (assuming they are giving it to us this year).

I'm not to fond of annual releases though. It kinda shows that they are rushing to get everything done, that there will probably be some major bugs to work out before it's actually good.

Alexander McGee
07-10-2004, 08:59
Not to mention previous years.

3ds max r3 (1999-2000)
3ds max r4 (2001)
3ds max r4.2 (2002)
3ds max r5 (2003)
3ds max r6 (2004)
3ds max r7 (2005)

Those are all the ones that i've had to deal with.

kcy88
07-10-2004, 16:49
the release of max7 is good and bad.. It's good because FIRST animators get to use the latest software from discreet. It's bad because we have to learn all the new specs and tools. Also, its hard to work with two version at the same time. In the past, I've experienced errors because a file i created in an older version didnt work on the newer ones.

I'm really looking foward to the new version.

Happy animating :)

Max Lobovsky
07-10-2004, 18:19
Does anyone know if v7 will have v6/5's ridiculous lack of ability to save in a previous version-compatible file?

Alexander McGee
07-10-2004, 21:27
Does anyone know if v7 will have v6/5's ridiculous lack of ability to save in a previous version-compatible file?

There are many ways around this. Export the file as a .3ds file. That type opens in previous versions, and maintains texturing.

Kevin Sevcik
07-10-2004, 22:13
LBK.... do you mean SW rendering of the viewports? cause I don't think that's tooo terribly important unless you want to have really really complex scenes that you're modelling with textures on, etc. HW rendering only helps for that.

Also, I believe you're allowed to install multiple copies of 3DS to other computers strictly for network rendering purposes. Which is certainly highly helpful for actually rendering the animation.

Finally, Autodesk really likes releasing new versions of everything on a yearly basis. I'm fairly confident that Inventor and AutoCAD have been updated with similar frequency. Personally, though, I got spoiled in college working with Solidworks. When I tried to go back to Inventor this summer to do some designing for the robot, it didn't work all that well for me.

devicenull
07-10-2004, 22:37
Usually they also have a free 30-day trial of it, which isn't limited in any way that I can think of

Max Lobovsky
08-10-2004, 11:35
There are many ways around this. Export the file as a .3ds file. That type opens in previous versions, and maintains texturing.
IIRC, it does not save animation, mapping, lighting, or non-mesh modeling type of stuff.

Kevin Thorp
14-10-2004, 12:45
Usually they also have a free 30-day trial of it, which isn't limited in any way that I can think of

It would be wonderful if the fine people at Autodesk (Discreet) could bump that up to a 60-day trial. Heck - I'd rather have 5 temporary licenses than 1 permanent.

JakeGallagher
14-10-2004, 16:00
Last season, my friend and I were working on the animation together. He had most of the files on his computer and one night he was rendering a scene. Due to cheap hardware, his computer exploded or something. We lost everything, including the license information from his computer. That was messy... I wonder if this year Autodesk would be so kind as to give extended licenses to the FIRST teams. As noted before, 60 days would be so much better than 30, and that would definately cover the basic learning time as well as the animating time.

Ryan Dognaux
14-10-2004, 16:15
I really wish FIRST and Discreet would have figured out by now that giving us a new version of Max every year does NOT help. We get one license, for one computer, and somehow we have to work between all the other previous versions of Max that we've gotten every year.

What would be really, really cool is if FIRST and Discreet could offer some multi-user license for FIRST teams only. I am so tired now of having problems just because the versions aren't compatible with each other :mad:

Honestly, I can't say I'm excited for 3DS Max 7, because it's only going to make things more complicated.

Salik Syed
15-10-2004, 22:39
i don know 6 wasn't all that big of a step up anyways... i guess they are now making a bunch of new number releases instead of 4.3 4.5 etc... BUT i hope it will be backwards compatible...

LBK Rules
25-10-2004, 00:01
http://www4.discreet.com/3dsmax/

3ds max 7 trial is availible now.

kcy88
26-10-2004, 18:49
idk about you guys, i think the default colors are booring!!!!
so i've spent some time to customize as much as i could with max7.
sshot1 (http://home.earthlink.net/~yus/max7.jpg)
sshot2 (http://home.earthlink.net/~yus/maxb7.jpg)
sshot3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~yus/mySplash.jpg)
:D :D :D

Ryan Dognaux
26-10-2004, 23:44
I will say from your first screen shot, it looks like Max's interface is even more complicated now. Personally I don't really see the point in adding all those buttons when most stuff is accessable from a toolbar menu.

If you're new, don't freak out. Just... don't press all the buttons :]

ebmonon36
27-10-2004, 01:59
I will say from your first screen shot, it looks like Max's interface is even more complicated now. Personally I don't really see the point in adding all those buttons when most stuff is accessable from a toolbar menu.

If you're new, don't freak out. Just... don't press all the buttons :]

That second toolbar is probably a custom toolbar. I think it will look like the normal interface. If you have ever seen v3.1, it had all kinds of tabs and things on the toolbar so it has been simplified since then. In the 17mb whats new pdf, there is a picture of the interface. It has that second tool bar but I still think it is a display option.
Eric

kcy88
27-10-2004, 17:03
I will say from your first screen shot, it looks like Max's interface is even more complicated now. Personally I don't really see the point in adding all those buttons when most stuff is accessable from a toolbar menu.

If you're new, don't freak out. Just... don't press all the buttons :]


hehe, true, all those tabs take up workspace...
that's y there's Ctrl+X. :D

Ryan Dognaux
27-10-2004, 19:25
hehe, true, all those tabs take up workspace...
that's y there's Ctrl+X. :D

Yeah, but then you don't really have anything. I know people who have been using Max for years and they still can't work in expert mode. :]

LBK Rules
27-10-2004, 20:39
Here's a FRC Public announcement received on Oct 27:

Hello. This is an important announcement for all FIRST Robotics Competition teams. Please share this information with the rest of your team in a timely manner. If you think that other members of your team would also like to receive these announcements, please encourage them to sign up at http://listserv.leapit.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?join=frcpublic.

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__________________________________________________ ____

Greetings Teams:

We are thrilled to announce that once again Autodesk will be sponsoring FIRST FRC teams through its generous software donations and training activities. Our many thanks go to our friends at Autodesk for their continuing commitment to the FIRST mission.

Autodesk anticipates shipment of software will start early next week. Please note that if you are a rookie team Autodesk will not ship software until the $500 FIRST Robovation deposit has been received.

Please read below for full details on what Autodesk is offering our teams this season!


************************************************** ********************


Autodesk is very excited to grant the teams something really cool this year! The Autodesk "kits" will start shipping the week of November 1, so here's what you can expect:

Autodesk Design Academy ("ADA")

ADA is a pre-engineering and pre-architecture program that includes:

Autodesk Inventor Series
Autodesk Architectural Desktop
Autodesk Revit
Autodesk VIZ
And the best part: curriculum for the teachers!

ADA includes a 25-seat classroom license for all these cool programs. That's right, 25 of you can be working on Autodesk Inventor at the same time! But that's not all: we are also including 3ds max 7, the latest version of our award-winning animation software, just released last week.

We will have an update coming soon about some fantastic training opportunities for both Autodesk Inventor and 3ds max. Stay tuned for updates!

Autodesk

That's awesome!!!!!
So does that mean we get a 25-seat license for 3ds max?

kcy88
27-10-2004, 21:36
i don't think so. We'll just have to wait for more updates on max7...
i certainly hope we get multiple licenses..

pi_guy578
27-10-2004, 22:14
I hope so too. I'm trying to get animation started on our team but we don't have good computers to put them on except school computers, and the IT department doesn't like my method of putting software on more than one computer... :p

Ryan Dognaux
28-10-2004, 18:08
That's awesome!!!!!
So does that mean we get a 25-seat license for 3ds max?

We can only hope and pray. :]

rowe
30-10-2004, 00:32
So does that mean we get a 25-seat license for 3ds max?
I seriously doubt it. Althought discreet is owned by autodesk, they are two seperate entities, meaning that 3ds max 7 is NOT included in the ADA. I guess we can always hope though.

LBK Rules
09-11-2004, 12:42
Has anyone recived their pre-kits yet?

Alexander McGee
09-11-2004, 12:57
I seriously doubt it. Althought discreet is owned by autodesk, they are two seperate entities, meaning that 3ds max 7 is NOT included in the ADA. I guess we can always hope though.


To answer this question, no. There is 1 license copy of max 7. However, the ADA includes autodesk viz, with 25 seats. It is basically 3ds max set up for easier integration with Inventor. So, 25 seats of viz are available.

-Alex

Kevin Thorp
09-11-2004, 22:50
From what I've read the Viz 2005 user interface is virtually identical to 3DS Max 6, and it has about 95% of the features. It doesn’t have a few of the advanced features like Character Studio, but you can use Viz for model creation, texture mapping, lighting, cameras & basic animation, and use Max for the really advanced stuff.

I think it's a very workable solution.

mike437
10-11-2004, 11:48
I have used 3DS MAX 7 and the only difference that I saw from 7 to 6 is the normal mapping feature, turbosmooth(similar to mesh smooth), and the newer version of mental ray. Other than that, it is just like 6.

Justin Baier
20-11-2004, 10:52
Hey, does anybody know if 3ds Max 7 will run in 64bit?