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How much does your team have to pay to use your very own school for just a weekend?
My team had to shell out nearly $1,000 so that we could use our very own school for a long weekend. Do you think that sounds fair?
Jeff Waegelin
18-03-2002, 16:45
We had to pay $20 per hour to use our school on a weekend. Luckily, we only had to do this once, since we could get in every day except one throughout the build season. We spent 8 hours there and had to pay $160. We didn't want to pay anything, but $160 for 8 hours isn't bad.
fast frank
18-03-2002, 18:22
we kinda broke into our school once or twice to work on the robot
well, we don't have to pay, but sometimes we get to the school early on a saturday morning and it is locked, so we just make a way to get in :D
Eric Reed
18-03-2002, 18:44
I think that's horrible! We don't have to pay anything to use our school. We come in every weekend, and spend the night on the last night.
Eric Reed
Jon Lawton
18-03-2002, 19:20
Pay to use your school? I've never even heard of this before! That is disgusting! :mad:
Who do you have to pay? Why? How are the prices set?
Katie Reynolds
18-03-2002, 19:33
Pay to use your school? :confused: ... the concept is foreign to me... and seems a little weird!
- Katie
rlowerr_1
18-03-2002, 19:40
What? You have to pay to use your school! that is nuts! Whose idea was that?
Brandon Martus
18-03-2002, 19:43
If its a private school, they probably need the money to cover building costs, custodial costs, etc...
I'm not sure if public schools need this or not.
Amy Beth
18-03-2002, 19:43
Curious....are you talking about paying to use a room in the school for building the robot? We've never had to pay our school for that because we've never built our robot at the school. The past few years we've had space donated rent-free from local companies that we use to build the robot and store our tools.
You heard me right. Our principal is forcing us to pay the janitors to keep the school open for us. It seems we're the only organization that has to pay to use our very own school while other athletic teams such as basketball do not. Hmm that doesn't sound right. Also, its not a private school. Its a public school.
that is not right. our school has the janitors come in on sat., and on sunday, our tech teacher just got the password for the security system, and was incharge of locking up. it worked fine, and we didn't ahve t opay anything.
We paid however much Jeff mentioned to use the middle school we were building at. At our old building which is getting renovated we had no problems because our shop teacher had his own door and security keypad. This year we're relocated to our 'wonderful' new school with no shops or anything- but ooh! they have a scene shop and a state of the art theater *eyeroll*
=)
I find it amazing how schools find it in their power just to jerk us around each day. Some stuff which I cannot divulge at this point in time would simply enrange you guys. Some stuff is so stupid and pointless, you can't help but laugh.
Ricky Q.
18-03-2002, 22:01
We don't use our school at all due to the lack of equipment there, and the district still refuses to fund us at all, but there is a new incoming principal so hopefully that will change for next year. All of our work is done at our sponsor's building (Quest Technologies) and we practiced this year at an old storefront not being used.
Wayne C.
18-03-2002, 22:54
Instead of posting your gripes here go to the school board and let them know. It sounds like your long weekend was the holiday weekend where janitors would need to collect overtime. Maybe the Board would have a better suggestion. Of course they could always allocate the facility costs in their budget to support the team. Do they give you any support?
If they don't give you satisfaction try the PTA and then the papers. Public opinion drives school policy and I'm sure your team has parents who are taxpayers.
This is just the kind of support ACADEMIC programs tend to get. Truly disgusting on your school's part. They should be ashamed.
It would cost very little and do so much for the school to allow your team free access. The janitorial costs always seem to be found when there is a sports activity. Or does your system only TALK about supporting academics?
WC
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To rent a classroom for a day at our public high school its costs exactly $20.68, but seeing as I also work for the school and have keys and know the alarm codes we've never had a problem. We primarily work in our university's shop anyway.
that is so rediculous. paying to use your own school sounds really weird. we use our school but have to ask permission sometimes for the weekends. yet our school still doesnt really give us any recognition at all.
jessi
Greg McCoy
19-03-2002, 21:50
Somehow, I doubt that the schools who make the FIRST teams pay to use their own school have no problem opening up the gym so that the basketball team can practice.
Yes, we have the same problem. We pay these "janitors" to keep the school open for us and they don't do a %%%% thing. But of course when there's got to be a basketball practice on a Saturday, of course they're there "free of charge". Somehow I don't think its right.
Yes, I know we should let it be publically known but for now, we're doing more research on the subject and then presenting our case to the principal and the board of education. I call it discimination against a team.
We still haven't paid the bill for the janitors services on the weekends lol!
Alfred Thompson
20-03-2002, 08:43
If you have a teacher with a building key to doesn't make much sense to require a janitor to open up on the week end.
We haven't used our school on week ends because we built the robot off site. But we use the school for meetings at night all the time. It's never been an issue. All the clubs and teams use the building at night.
I second the suggestion someone made to take the issue to the school board. A FIRST team should not be paying if sports teams are not paying.
Chris Hibner
20-03-2002, 11:16
Originally posted by Alfred Thompson
If you have a teacher with a building key to doesn't make much sense to require a janitor to open up on the week end.
No, it doesn't make much sense, but that's the way it is due to labor unions. The custodians for many school systems have labor unions and part of the contract is that if anyone is in the school, a custodian must be present. I really don't like it, but as with anything involving a union contract, it is a very difficult thing the change.
I know that if the school is not in use for other activities, our team has to pay the custodian's wages for the hours that he/she comes in. During crunch time we have to work on Sunday which means time-and-a-half, which can add up to big bucks.
Curtis Williams
24-03-2002, 12:53
Our school has a machine shop but no more teacher, so we are allowed in there on saturdays from 8 AM until 2:30 PM since the maintenance staff is at the school and the alarm is off. Our school never asked us to pay, but we dont have the option of any more time on the weekends.
purplehaze357
24-03-2002, 15:52
the concept of having to pay to use your school is absolutely ridiculous, we dont have to pay but on the other hand we have two of the mentors have keys to the whole building.
If you have to pay to use the school ask them why the football team or the basketball team doesnt have to pay. stand up for the robotics team. Let them know it is a sport and it's here to stay. Fight for your rights man.:cool:
i am beginning to appreciate that my team isnt from just one school more and more. Lucky for us, we are allowed to use a duPont facility. we meet every sunday from 1-5 and i went for over 7 hours a day on the friday, sat, sun, and mon before shipping(i had a four dy weekend).
i dont knowhow your principal cold even ask you guys for the money because i assume that your team is the most educational extra-curricular activity at your school. if its public, i am sure that theirwill be someone above your principal you can talk to
Scottie2Hottie
25-03-2002, 20:59
After all this talk, i went and asked how much it would cost to use our school over the weekend, it would be free unless we wanted to use it on sunday, then we too would have to pay time and a half to both jantitorial and security staff... i guess thats how it goes. Luckily visteon lets us build our bot at their facility.
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