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I didn't know FIRST would open Championship registration to Tier 1 teams!
Now I have to scramble to get more monies!!! :ahh:
Is this a surprise to anyone else or is it just me? =\
What do you mean by "Tier 1" ?
Bill Gold
21-11-2004, 03:41
What do you mean by "Tier 1" ?
http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/cmp_elig.htm
http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/tierlist.htm
http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/cmp_elig.htm
http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/tierlist.htm
Oh! Okay; I saw this before, just must have forgotten. Sorry.
usually poeple dont know this happens. Then after they forget to sign up and dont get into Atlanta complain and say that everyone should get to go. I garantee that not all of the open slots now will be used up simply becuase some teams wont see that they can. (I know other teams cant go because of funding or that their sponsors want to see performance before dropping $$$) This is how we got to ATL last year.
Even with last year's lottery there were spots in Atlanta which took a long time to fill. We were chosen as one of 30 tier 1 teams to vie for 11 spots via a lottery last year. A day after the initial sign up day for lottery participants, 5 of 11 were still open. I can't imagine passing up a shot at Atlanta.
techtiger1
23-11-2004, 20:05
I didn't know FIRST would open Championship registration to Tier 1 teams!
Now I have to scramble to get more monies!!! :ahh:
Is this a surprise to anyone else or is it just me? =\
Definitely a surprise and yes we gotta come up with some money now as well. :ahh:
Steve Howland
23-11-2004, 20:12
I can't imagine passing up a shot at Atlanta.
Exactly how I feel...My team is signed up for 2 regionals right now but with the recent opening of Teir 1 Registration I have been trying to convince them that we should sign up when we have the chance. However right now it would probably cost about $600 each so nobody is willing to say yes, but we will ask sponsors for money and we could do a bunch of fundraisers...but still we are not signing up. Any ideas on how to convince them?
#1Transgirl1140
24-11-2004, 08:59
We were suprised as well. We found out yesterday. I was called down to my coach's classroom after lunch, I went into the shop and our captain Zac told me that itwas open up to Tier 1 teams and to hurry up and sign us up. I did, so now were are going to Atlanta as well as going to the Great Lakes Regional, the Buckeye Regional and we are on the waiting list for the Detriot regional and the Greater Toronto Regional. Wow, this is going to be a busy season, so much school work to make up. I'm happy though, we're going back to Atlanta. It was so much fun last year. Good Luck to everyone this upcoming season.
Exactly how I feel...My team is signed up for 2 regionals right now but with the recent opening of Teir 1 Registration I have been trying to convince them that we should sign up when we have the chance. However right now it would probably cost about $600 each so nobody is willing to say yes, but we will ask sponsors for money and we could do a bunch of fundraisers...but still we are not signing up. Any ideas on how to convince them?
Drop a regional in place for the championships, the cost will still be $1000 more for the chmp then a regional but if thats your only way for 571 to get there as of now then maybe you will have to make that decision...
We were suprised as well. We found out yesterday. I was called down to my coach's classroom after lunch, I went into the shop and our captain Zac told me that itwas open up to Tier 1 teams and to hurry up and sign us up. I did, so now were are going to Atlanta as well as going to the Great Lakes Regional, the Buckeye Regional and we are on the waiting list for the Detriot regional and the Greater Toronto Regional. Wow, this is going to be a busy season, so much school work to make up. I'm happy though, we're going back to Atlanta. It was so much fun last year. Good Luck to everyone this upcoming season.
Where are you guys getting all the money to go to four regionals and the championship? I think our team would love to try some of your fundraising techniques.
Drop a regional in place for the championships, the cost will still be $1000 more for the chmp then a regional but if thats your only way for 571 to get there as of now then maybe you will have to make that decision...
If you drop a regional to go to Championship it will cost you $500.00 plus the $1000.00 more. The second regionals deposit is non refundable and non transferable to Championship.
If you drop a regional to go to Championship it will cost you $500.00 plus the $1000.00 more. The second regionals deposit is non refundable and non transferable to Championship.
OK i wasnt sure if the deposit would be able to be transferred but i guess we have the answer now. Well maybe that shows why there is still 20 spots open for the championship.
Exactly how I feel...My team is signed up for 2 regionals right now but with the recent opening of Teir 1 Registration I have been trying to convince them that we should sign up when we have the chance. However right now it would probably cost about $600 each so nobody is willing to say yes, but we will ask sponsors for money and we could do a bunch of fundraisers...but still we are not signing up. Any ideas on how to convince them?
My team always pays their own way. Last year it was around $370. The year before that, when we qualifiied just a few weeks before Houston, it was $600. Everybody was perfectly willing to pay.
Money is not a factor, experiencing a FIRST Championship event is priceless.
I'm really sorry your team doesn't find it necessary to go. That's the only persuading thing I can say...
Stephen Kowski
24-11-2004, 14:18
Is this a surprise to anyone else or is it just me? =\
Nah they did it last year if my memory serves me....
#1Transgirl1140
29-11-2004, 09:21
Where are you guys getting all the money to go to four regionals and the championship? I think our team would love to try some of your fundraising techniques.
We've decided that we can only afford 2 regionals and championships. we only have one sponser and it been calculated that is going to cost $900 for hotel and travel. I make most of my money by working parking at our local county fair.
thewizard16
29-11-2004, 18:11
My team always pays their own way. Last year it was around $370. The year before that, when we qualifiied just a few weeks before Houston, it was $600. Everybody was perfectly willing to pay.
Money is not a factor, experiencing a FIRST Championship event is priceless.
I'm really sorry your team doesn't find it necessary to go. That's the only persuading thing I can say...
I really don't think that's an option for everyone. Our team works together to do fundraising, and if we get enough money to do something more, then that's what we'll do. Speaking personally, I know that there is no way that I, or my family, could come up with $600, or even $370, (especially this year with all the graduation expenses, senior expenses, etc.) for me to be part of a FIRST team, whereas my personal fundraisings (AKA, people you hit up for money) for the team, aside from group projects, can bring in much more. People are a lot more willing to sponsor a team with money than a person, and I don't think a person's financial status should limit their participation in FIRST.
Joseph:
Just because Napa is surrounded by vineyards doesn't mean each citizen owns one...Let me tell you, my family is so far from financially stable it's not even funny. Last year I got a job, and I paid my own way through robotics.
Usually the cost to Atlanta is made in 2 or 3 payments, so that makes it a little bit easier. We don't ask team parents for money, I don't like that idea very much...But extra fundraising (what a concept :rolleyes: ) would be good to lower the cost of each individual.
thewizard16:
I never said that a person's financial status should limit their participation in FIRST. I know that if an individual is in need of help there are others willing to help. Most of the time the school helps out. I don't know how but some teams manage to fund raise enough so people don't have to pay much at all...
I fully understand what both of you are saying. I hope I didn't come across as some kind of snob. In all seriousness, I come from a very low-class family. But I work really hard to be able to participate in FIRST. I know that some people work harder than me, and I know that some people don't. I wasn't saying that the people on my team have money to spare. I was more trying to say that it is disappointing to see an entire team pass up a chance for Atlanta because of the price tag when there's even still time to fundraise. Meh.
Bill Gold
30-11-2004, 02:38
Mabey I'm just baised because you guys are in beautiful Napa, but here in Richmond we have kids who can't even pay $100 for part of the bus trip, let alone $370. Even a certain rich school that has a team near us is having trouble getting people to plop down $50 up front, and last year each kid had to pay their way to Champs.
I don't want to argue, but instead open you eyes a bit, if ya know what I mean....
That post really set me off when I saw it earlier tonight, but I didn’t immediately respond. Even now I don’t really know what to say, but here goes…
Wow. One assumption after on CD another today?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=31472
<sarcasm>What is it, "everyone spout out nonsensical, offensive, judgmental statements" day?</sarcasm>
Just because people live in California, or a certain part of California that’s famous doesn’t mean that they’re swimming around in more cash than they know what to do with. Here in California the cost of living is sky high, and jobs are being lost left and right (and replaced with low paying part-time jobs) due to the stagnant economy, the outsourcing of jobs, and reorganization of corporate assets. There is also a high bankruptcy rate in our area. I should know, since my parents and many friends of mine are debtors’ attorneys in the Silicon Valley. There are quite a few teams in California whose students can’t afford to travel with their team to events; it’s not a situation that’s removed from our state. My old team, The Sea Dawgs’, students couldn’t afford to travel to Sacramento (just 2h away from San Jose), and even if I drove the kids and we split 2 hotel rooms. Luckily (depending on how you look at the situation), we didn’t really have this problem since we couldn’t muster the funds to register for a second event in 2003 or 2004. We were a team in San Jose, the heart of the Silicon Valley, and we couldn’t come up with those funds as individuals or as a team, and we sure as heck weren’t the only ones with that problem.
So, I would definitely say it’s because you’re biased that you would tell someone from Napa (which has the same economic troubles as the Silicon Valley) to open their eyes to the economic strife of another area. Yes, parts of Napa are beautiful, just like parts of Virginia are beautiful, but that really doesn’t reflect the economic cross-section of those areas. I was offended by that comment, and I, personally, think you should apologize for it.
-Bill Gold
StangMan
30-11-2004, 14:54
Wildstang (0111) will be going to Nationals this season (2005)
Steve Howland
30-11-2004, 15:01
Alas, I could not convince 571 to sign up for nationals at this point due to lack of funding and enthusiasm from the team. I am disappointed that we didn't take this opportunity but wish other teams the best of luck should we not show up (there is still the possibility of earning our way there through a regional, but once again funding is a problem).
bhweezer
30-11-2004, 17:21
My team always pays their own way. Last year it was around $370. The year before that, when we qualifiied just a few weeks before Houston, it was $600. Everybody was perfectly willing to pay.
Money is not a factor, experiencing a FIRST Championship event is priceless.
I'm really sorry your team doesn't find it necessary to go. That's the only persuading thing I can say...
I feel lucky. The students on our team have never had to pay our own way. We get all of our money through a golf tournament. We go out and get sponsers for the tounament and keep a portion of what we earn (usually $10 for every $100 we earn). :D
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