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Joe Johnson
30-03-2002, 12:29
At the risk of eating crow big time, I am calling the Midwest Motorola Regional.

Wildstang has pretty much sewn up #1 seed. I suppose that means they will be picking Beatty/Hammond. I suppose further that that is the end of the competition in Chicago.


It is 11:25 Central time, but it may as well be 4:30 for all the doubt there is in my mind about who the winner of the Midwest is is.

Call 'em as I see 'em.

Joe J.

Joe Johnson
30-03-2002, 12:35
Almost before I hit "submit" 107 almost shut me up!

They are only a whisper away from getting #1 seed, but not quite good enough.

269 could make it to #1 seed with about a 100 QP round, but I don't see it with the teams the have to play against and with the partner they have.

Wishing them luck, but I still think the smart money is with Wildstang.

Joe J.

soap108
30-03-2002, 12:47
Originally posted by Joe Johnson
Almost before I hit "submit" 107 almost shut me up!

They are only a whisper away from getting #1 seed, but not quite good enough.

269 could make it to #1 seed with about a 100 QP round, but I don't see it with the teams the have to play against and with the partner they have.

Wishing them luck, but I still think the smart money is with Wildstang.

Joe J.

And 111 owns next level tiebreaker, just in case- Wildstang is 8-0 and 107 is 6-3.

soap108
30-03-2002, 12:49
wildstang needs 106 QP or higher in their final match to be #1 seed.

can't wait.......

soap108
30-03-2002, 12:56
hmmmm... correct that. wildstang already played last match.... hmmm must be missing a match detail :)

soap108
30-03-2002, 13:03
Originally posted by soap108
hmmmm... correct that. wildstang already played last match.... hmmm must be missing a match detail :)


fixed match 65 was missing....


269 now needs 101 QP or more and the should be #1



KA

soap108
30-03-2002, 13:08
didn't do it. 111 is #1 and a perfect 9-0!!!!


cool!!


KA-108

Joe Johnson
30-03-2002, 13:10
It's official -- #269 and #107 gave Wildstang a good run for it, but #111 is #1 seed...

Hmmm... ...who will they pick?

Joe J.

soap108
30-03-2002, 13:17
I'm betting 71, but you never now what Raul is thinking.........

Dave Flowerday
30-03-2002, 14:11
Wildstang selected the Technokats and #79 Krunch. The Metal Flow & Holland Christian HS (#2 seed) selected Beatty.

Perseus
30-03-2002, 14:42
I have some questions about the bots at the MMR.

I know what wildstang can do but what about #269 and #107. Also, is beatty a 3 goal grabber, and if so, how effective are they (win-loss record and so forth)?

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:19
www.soap108.com/2002/events/il/elim.cfm


oh, beast jsut lost 30-14 in sf1m1. can't really blame them though.

hmmmmmm.....

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:29
Originally posted by soap108
www.soap108.com/2002/events/il/elim.cfm


oh, beast jsut lost 30-14 in sf1m1. can't really blame them though.

hmmmmmm.....

comeback:

beast take sf2m2 44-10


Lookout WildStang!

KA-108 :cool:

Perseus
30-03-2002, 15:31
Keep me posted........waiting for your posts is keeping me on the edge of my seat

Bill Whitley
30-03-2002, 15:31
what happened to the stream?

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:41
Moto Finals


Beast & Co. vs. WildStang & Co.



Any wagers?


KA

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:41
Originally posted by Bill Whitley
what happened to the stream?


??? try refreshing your browser. we're still live!

KA-108

Perseus
30-03-2002, 15:42
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

what is wrong with the stream......i cant watch beaty vs. wildstang Is there no mercy in this world?

Bill Whitley
30-03-2002, 15:48
Originally posted by soap108



??? try refreshing your browser. we're still live!

KA-108


oh believe me i've tried. it's down.

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:49
45 lost power in collision w/ beast.

looks like 71 will take fm1

soap108
30-03-2002, 15:53
oooh. 111 doesn't release their tongue!!! ?? they would have won the match via Ball TieBreaker!

Beatty & Co. (107, 71, 519) takes fm1 by score of : 36-26


KA

Bill Whitley
30-03-2002, 15:57
I think I can hear Raul from here.

Kris Verdeyen
30-03-2002, 16:03
Hey soap guys - how long until you get the Quicktime videos of the MMR up? I'd like to watch the finals, but the stream isn't doing it for me.

I appreciate that it exists, but I have trouble interpolating the two seconds between frames. :)

In any case, keep up the good work - you guys have provided a great resource on your site.

soap108
30-03-2002, 16:07
Beatty gets a present from 111: fm2 score 30-30 beatty wins on #balls.


Tough way to go 111.............everyone wanted to see it go to 3.


KA :(

soap108
30-03-2002, 16:08
Originally posted by verdeyw
Hey soap guys - how long until you get the Quicktime videos of the MMR up? I'd like to watch the finals, but the stream isn't doing it for me.

I appreciate that it exists, but I have trouble interpolating the two seconds between frames. :)

In any case, keep up the good work - you guys have provided a great resource on your site.
thank you. we will only get better.

:cool:

I would expect to have the movies on the site by Close of Business Tuesday....................we'll try for sooner though!!!!

Best Regards,
KA-108 :cool:

Perseus
30-03-2002, 16:09
Thanks soap,

If you have the footage for the finals(since the stream failed for me) could you email it to me @ Perseus9686@aol.com


THanks again for all your data and your stream

metal
30-03-2002, 16:18
Beatty takes home the prize. score 30-30, tie breaker goes to 2 goal bot, Beatty the Beast ! 107, 71, 519 takes best of 3, 2-0.

Book your flight, gotta see Beatty vs MOE at Epcot

Wildstang is excellent ball bot

Todd Derbyshire
30-03-2002, 19:26
where exactly did Beatty place at the end of qualification rounds

Nate Smith
30-03-2002, 19:38
12th...they were picked by the #2 seed, team 107

Stephen Kowski
30-03-2002, 19:57
So is Beatty a two or three goal robot?

bukvich
30-03-2002, 20:07
Joe: Those nightmares you've been having ARE real.

Mike Soukup
30-03-2002, 20:15
When we made the gutsy move to pick the Technokats over Beatty, we knew the elims and especially the finals would be fun and exciting (if Beatty & us both made it through). I don't know of any spectators that were disappointed. We love to put on a good show at our local regional.

It was exciting, but a disappointing way to end an outstanding regional.

The competition was tough. This morning at least 6 teams had a solid shot at #1 seed and it came down to the final match of the day. Teams 107 and 269 put forth an outstanding effort and kept us sweating.

Our alliance of 111, 45, & 79 had a great shot at defeating Beatty (we found a few weaknesses in their bot & strategy). We had the right strategy but we couldn't execute. In the first match of the finals, 45 shut down in the initial goal impact and the door for our tongue wouldn't open. Result: 36-26 loss. In the second match Beatty dominated 2 goals but with the help of the Technokats we trapped 519 in our endzone. It would have been a 30-28 victory if we didn't accidentally score 2 balls in our opponent's goal. Result 30-30 loss. Winning 2nd place is a great accomplishment, but it's always hard to accept immediately after losing.

It's a tough way to lose, but we all had a wonerful time and that's the real point of these competitions.

I must extend a HUGE congradulations to the Technokats for winning the Regional Chairman's award. They are a top notch team and I can't think of a better team to win it.

Mike

Ricky Q.
30-03-2002, 20:21
Yea, we we're thinking WildStang was going to take Beatty/Hammond, but we're wrong as we headed over to the TechnoKats and found them talking to #111, then we had hope to get #71 but found them talking to #107. So we did what we could and it was a great time and thanks to everyone!!!

Joe3
30-03-2002, 20:30
Based on the scores of the matches (I couldn't get the stream) it looks as if beatty may only be a 2 goal robot as opposed to a 3 goal grabber. If someone who was there would clear this up, that would be great. Also, if they are a 3 goal bot, how effective are they?

Thanks
Joe

Ricky Q.
30-03-2002, 20:38
Beatty is definetely a strong, strong 3 goal bot. In the Quals they took one of their arms off one time so then they were just a 2 goal bot, but in the Finals they were a 3, and once they got all 3, or just 2...it was done, we did our best against them.

Perseus
30-03-2002, 22:09
Beatty is a 3 goal grabber. THey proved in the elimiation rounds that they can hold their own (and the 3 goals)

Brian Savitt
30-03-2002, 23:28
Beatty seems to be a 3 goal robot, at least from what I have been reading.

Brian

Jnadke
31-03-2002, 02:23
Beatty is indeed a 3 goal grabbing robot.

They can, however take one of their arms off and put in its place a send-home device. That's what they did in qualification rounds...

Greg McCoy
31-03-2002, 16:13
In the match where we got stopped, we did not trip out circuit breaker. We were shifting from high to low as we pushed a goal, and our electrical voltage dropped below 8.0 volts from the high amps we pulled. The controller crashed, so to get going again we would have needed to go out on the field and reset, because the radio modems were confused.

I'd also like to thank our alliance partners, 111 and 79.

Matt Lundberg
31-03-2002, 16:37
Greg our alliance partners were 111 and 79 not 111 and 71.

Greg McCoy
31-03-2002, 19:59
Yeah, I've made that mistake twice now. Sorry, and I'm glad you guys caught it :eek:

soap108
01-04-2002, 03:53
Originally posted by Perseus
Thanks soap,

If you have the footage for the finals(since the stream failed for me) could you email it to me @ Perseus9686@aol.com

Thanks again for all your data and your stream

We recorded nearly 15,000 hits on the stream at sigmacat.com over the weekend. WOW!!! Also consider that the machines used to stream were all below 300MHz (what were we thinking
?) and the ThunderChickens (217) ate up a ton of our bandwidth as they uploaded pix from the event LiVE as we opened up to all teams access to the Inet. We actually overloaded one of our donated (by Nextland) 802.11 WAPs by having too many DHCP Clients. The company's CEO was impressed (and maybe slightly embarassed ;)) and had his developers send us a patch overnight.

All things considered this was not bad considering we walked into the event thinking this was just some cool would-be-nice-if-we-get-it-to-work idea. It all came together in < 1 week of time too. Like I mentioned earlier we can only get better!!! :D

Elimination Movies to be posted Monday 4/1 (and that's no April fooling...pending no bizarre network outages)

Qualifying matches- we'll see how soon FedEx delivers the crate.....

DVD-R of all matches hopefully available soon as well.

KA-108 :cool:

Paul Copioli
01-04-2002, 10:40
Hey SOAP,

Thanks again for letting us tag onto your hookup. It was a huge success and you were the hands down favorite for the Sportsmanship award, congratulations. Anyway, the Thunderchickens thank-you many times over for your generousity.

-Paul

Angelgrl131
01-04-2002, 14:13
I fully believe that it have been proven in the MMR that Beatty is beatable. They are simply a Goliath all you need is a brave David. Hit or slam them in the right place and they are stuck. All you have to do it get it just right. They tried to modify their robot to counter that, but the strategy worked a second time. Now don't get me wrong, Beatty is an incredible robot-just not invinceable.

Ricky Q.
01-04-2002, 16:10
Originally posted by soap108


Elimination Movies to be posted Monday 4/1 (and that's no April fooling...pending no bizarre network outages)


Hey SOAP, let us know when they are up, so I don't have to do endless checking :D Thanks for all you do!

Joe Johnson
03-04-2002, 09:34
I was very much mistaken.

Wildstang is even more gutsy than I would have thought.

In order to see if there are any chinks in the armor of the beast, #111 chooses not the team that optimizes their chances of going home with another regional championship banner but a team they think may be a good partner for beating the beast.

AND...

...they almost pull it off!

Wildstang... ...I think I love you...

Joe J.

soap108
03-04-2002, 09:59
Originally posted by Joe Johnson

...they almost pull it off!

Joe J.


1 mechanical glitch + 1 mental glitch = 2nd place.

Oh so close.

Ricky Q.
03-04-2002, 10:05
We had a chance in the last match of Semi 2, if only the trim on our joysticks wouldn't have been off, we could have beat Beatty to the last outside goal, oh well...look out at nationals!

Kris Verdeyen
03-04-2002, 22:53
Originally posted by soap108



1 mechanical glitch + 1 mental glitch = 2nd place.




Is this the mental glitch?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/pics/bin/101779018545_111_519_end_of_finals_last_ball.jpg

I noticed this on the video. I thought that I had the alliances mixed up.

Ricky Q.
03-04-2002, 23:05
That would be it, if you watch the video you can see the TechnoKat operators waving them off...oh well we had some of those mental lapses too..cant live on what ifs