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Chris Bright
18-02-2005, 12:10
How does the website deadline work. Do they judge based on how the site looks at the deadline, or is that only when the submission is due?

David Kelly
18-02-2005, 12:36
How does the website deadline work. Do they judge based on how the site looks at the deadline, or is that only when the submission is due?

You can work on your website for however long you want. The specified 'deadline' is for teams to submit their link to the FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org) system. The judges will then pull up the websites who have links submitted in the system and judge them. If your website is not submitted to FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org)by midnight tonight, your site will not be judged or eligible to win an award.

Chris Bright
18-02-2005, 12:54
You can work on your website for however long you want. The specified 'deadline' is for teams to submit their link to the FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org) system. The judges will then pull up the websites who have links submitted in the system and judge them. If your website is not submitted to FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org)by midnight tonight, your site will not be judged or eligible to win an award.
Thanks for the info. I can breath easier. I still have to complete a few pages since there are still a few things I'm wait for from teammates

ahmad
18-02-2005, 14:52
You can work on your website for however long you want. The specified 'deadline' is for teams to submit their link to the FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org) system. The judges will then pull up the websites who have links submitted in the system and judge them. If your website is not submitted to FIRSTawards.org (http://www.firstawards.org)by midnight tonight, your site will not be judged or eligible to win an award.

I have another question:

when do we get the results ??

Brandon Martus
18-02-2005, 15:23
They announce the winners at the competitions.

PCole
18-02-2005, 18:46
Thanks for the info. I can breath easier. I still have to complete a few pages since there are still a few things I'm wait for from teammates

I know what you mean, our website has gone through an up and down week and I'm glad that you don't have to have it all finished by the deadline. Although, I am stil trying to get EVERY page finished and ready to be judged.

Elgin Clock
18-02-2005, 21:46
The judges will then pull up the websites who have links submitted in the system and judge them.Does anyone know exactly when this happens? Our web-team is also mechanical team, and that takes a bit more priority in week 6 when the award is to be submitted by. (which we did register for BTW.) Is this something that is judged in the week(s) following week 6, but before competition, or something that is judged on site at the competition?

Andrew Schuetze
18-02-2005, 22:52
Is this something that is judged in the week(s) following week 6, but before competition, or something that is judged on site at the competition?

That is my question as well. We are getting everything up as best we can but may have to pull some photos due to release forms not being all in at this time. I want to reload the pics as soon as forms come in so that everyone is included.


APS

Tim Arnold
23-02-2005, 18:32
I would also like to know the exact date... I have been tweaking our site every day (heh) and putting as much content up when as soon as I get it just incase. Someone on my team said it might go from lowest to highest numbers (that would be great for us), but I would like to get an official word if there is one.

Jessica Boucher
23-02-2005, 19:08
I would also like to know the exact date... I have been tweaking our site every day (heh) and putting as much content up when as soon as I get it just incase. Someone on my team said it might go from lowest to highest numbers (that would be great for us), but I would like to get an official word if there is one.

9.7.1 Submission and Deadline Information
Only team websites that are entered into Firstawards.org by 12:01 a.m EST on February 19, 2005 will be
judged. Team websites are eligible for these awards at every regional event in which the team is competing.
Only one electronic Website Excellence certificate will be awarded per team for the entire competition
season. A team is eligible to win the Best Website award at multiple regional events.

So, I would suggest that you bring your site back to how it was when you submitted it.

Brandon Martus
23-02-2005, 23:47
So, I would suggest that you bring your site back to how it was when you submitted it.There really isn't anything saying you can't work on it after you submit, though. It only says that the URL has to be in the system at that time.

How would they expect teams to not update a website during the robotics season? Many teams have dynamic content (news, schedule updates, etc) that would be silly to wait until after the season was over before changing.

I guess maybe they just need to clarify this better in the rules.

activemx
23-02-2005, 23:51
Just to fill you guys in. Judging has started;)

Cujo
24-02-2005, 00:24
*Squee*

I am nervous. There has been ALOT of effort put into our teams website and it would be a shame if we weren't allowed to work on it after submission. Besides, good websites are NEVER finished, so much to keep up on.

Here's our link, TNT 280 (http://www.tnt280.com)

Good Luck To The Other Website Submissions!!!!

--Cujo

activemx
24-02-2005, 03:18
You can work on the websites after submission. It would be good if teams maintain a layout through out each season.

Cujo
25-02-2005, 21:38
Our team intends to keep our current layout for the website around for a while.

Timothy D. Ginn
25-02-2005, 22:02
...
Someone on my team said it might go from lowest to highest numbers (that would be great for us), but I would like to get an official word if there is one.

The judging system does not arrange team websites in order by team number. It seems to be more or less random as far as team number goes; it is possible that it is ordered by the date at which the team websites were entered on firstawards.org.

XYR0c
25-02-2005, 23:56
Well, i sure hope our website has not already been judged. I just recently uploaded some crucial data :)

Tim Arnold
02-03-2005, 17:37
haha. I suppose I ought to stop while I'm slightly behind before I dig a hole to china and end up banned. Sorry about that, I personaly thought it was somewhat humerous.

Something usefull (sort of) then:

Anyone know if this host has visited your site recently?
dialup-4.234.234.XX.Dial1.Miami1.Level3.net (4.234.234.XX [last two digits with held for privacy reasons]) is located in Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States.Correct me if I am wrong, but that is very close to FIRST Headquarters, and could (possibly?) be a judge? Or is it just some normal person checking out our site (visited nearly all the pages over a period of about 25 minutes). We typically don't get visitors from that area... usually just locals looking into us from our recent writing (today - heh) about in our local newspaper.

wsansewjs
02-03-2005, 18:13
Wow! Almost same address but this one is from Orlando . .

dialup-4.235.132.XX.dial1.orlando1.level3.net

Hmm it is really suspicious if it could be one of the judges.

-WJS

Tim Arnold
02-03-2005, 19:03
Thanks for the conformation! Wow. If this is really what I am seeing it as, I have become sad, and happy at the same time. Our site finally got judged (not like I was looking forward to it or anything :p) but I was just about to introduce a really cool competition to our site (I'll post a topic when its running).

Can anyone else confirm that you have been visited by this host?

The thing that really strikes me as odd though, is that its a dial up account (apparently). Browsing our photo gallery on a 56k line is absoluteley horrible (which they did do, somehow) so perhaps that is just an error in the lookup.

For any webmasters wanting to know how to lookup the IP addresses to see where any visitor is from, I reccomend the AntiOnline IP locator (http://www.antionline.com/tools-and-toys/ip-locate/). It is reliable, and has a map to plot where the user is most likeley browsing from. Rather creepy actually, it can see where you are too (unless you are using a proxy server or just live a distance from your ISP).

Elgin Clock
02-03-2005, 19:07
For any webmasters wanting to know how to lookup the IP addresses to see where any visitor is from, I reccomend the AntiOnline IP locator (http://www.antionline.com/tools-and-toys/ip-locate/). It is reliable, and has a map to plot where the user is most likeley browsing from. Rather creepy actually, it can see where you are too (unless you are using a proxy server or just live a distance from your ISP).
I think it is a bit off..

(You) at xxx) are located in Chantilly, Virginia, United States.

Umm.. no. Weird.

webranger7
02-03-2005, 20:11
How many hits are we supposed to get? By the way, check out our web site www.railerobotics.com (http://www.railerobotics.com/)

jhnphm
05-03-2005, 22:36
I think it is a bit off..

(You) at xxx) are located in Chantilly, Virginia, United States.

Umm.. no. Weird. Hah... Ironically I live next to Chantilly, VA, but it gives my location as Atlanta, Georgia.


Anyway, missed the deadline :(. I was trying to share the duties of programmer/webmaster- doesn't work too well when one spends 2 hours in transportation daily, plus had to wait awhile for SSH access.

XYR0c
07-03-2005, 23:04
well, unfortunately i dont think our team's website will get good marks at all. I Updated it far too late for them to not have already judged it. Makes me sad really... :(

Goobergunch
07-03-2005, 23:40
You might also want to check the referer information. For instance, I saw the following on our site logs tonight:

Host: 69.138.XXX.XX

/
Http Code: 304 Date: Mar 07 21:26:58 Http Version: HTTP/1.1 Size in Bytes: -
Referer: http://www.firstawards.org/index.php?X=web_sitelist&eventid=71&s=
Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)The same IP hit pretty much every part of our site.

There were a few other hits coming from a "firstawards.org" referer. I'm guessing that those are the judges. All of the IPs that came from that referer were in the vicinity of Annapolis and Washington, DC, so your judge hits will probably come from IPs near where your competition is. Which makes sense, because that's where the judges live.

(And if any judge is reading this, they might be interested to know that I just updated the Game and Robot pages. :))

Calvin
08-03-2005, 00:58
The thing that really strikes me as odd though, is that its a dial up account (apparently). Browsing our photo gallery on a 56k line is absoluteley horrible (which they did do, somehow) so perhaps that is just an error in the lookup

I think they are on purposely using dial-up, to see how your website will apear for the majority of the users (including me). One key point in website design is to make sure everyone can see it and enjoy it.

BTW, it seems that I have been visited twice:
128.125.246.180 - - [27/Feb/2005:22:48:01 -0600] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2379 "http://www.firstawards.org/index.php?X=web_sitelist&eventid=74&s=" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050223 Firefox/1.0.1"

128.193.255.179 - - [03/Mar/2005:14:42:28 -0600] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2481 "http://www.firstawards.org/index.php?X=web_sitelist&eventid=74&" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/125.5.6 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.12"