To our friends in Israel

[Rich Kressly]

In reading separate threads, it seems that website, AVA entries, and Inventor entries will not be judged at the Israeli Regional. For all of you who have worked so hard this is disappointing news this late in the season, however it does NOT mean your work has to go unrecognized.

By all means finish the work that all of you started. Post your work on the web for all of us to see and be inspired. Let us know when your work is there, the FIRST community would love to see it! I'm only guessing that the lack of judges is part of your situation. It's possible the first year of a new regional in a new country, this is just something that there weren't enough time and resources to address properly. Whetever the reasons, have faith that FIRST and Israel will work this out for future years. In the mean time see if completed animations / screen shots can be shown at your regional. If the capabilities are at your venue, maybe this is a possibility.

Congratulations on all of your hard work. Maybe the community on CD can arrange an unofficial competition from a distance. We could use the actual manual scoring criteria and rules. If there is enough interest among the Israeli teams, I'd be willing to be a judge. Would anyone else out there like to help?

[Denman]

yes, i'm sure that an unofficial Israel competition for those parts could be arranged here, and there will definately be plenty of people here to help you. The only problem i can possibly see is that are the entries in english or Hebrew? As i doubt there are many people here who can read / understand hebrew (thanks for telling me ) who arn't in Israel competitions.
Anyway, i'll help however i can.

[Katie Reynolds]

I'd be honored to help out in any way I can; just let me know what I need to do!!

[DarkJedi613]

I'd help out for a website award, though I'll only be able to read it in english. Though then again a lot of a website is made up of the images and design. :)

[Rich Kressly]

thanks for the replies

I've got at least four others willing to help judge and more to come I'm sure. Now I need to hear from the Isreali teams - please respond in this thread with Team number and links to your work - as soon as you have them - that way we'll know you want us to judge the work.

[Cory]

The only problem i can possibly see is that are the entries in english or Israeli? As i doubt there are many people here who can read / understand Israeli who arn't in Israel competitions.

If people in Israel speak Israeli...then us Americans speak American instead of english ;) (They speak Hebrew)

I'd be willing to help as well.

[Koko Ed]

Of course I'd be honored to see their hard work.

[Rich Kressly]

Alright -
Three-four judges per event should work fine with a max a 12 teams submitting for each award. We'll use all FIRST 2005 rules.

Website Judges:
Jessica Boucher, DarkJedi, ???

Animation:
Kressly, Koko Ed, ???

Inventor:
???

Cory, Katie, Denman - where would you like to be plugged in?
I also know a dynamite Inventor guy who could head up that judging (cough - PeteK - cough). How about it?

If we run into any language barriers I have several students who read and speak Hebrew. One is even going to attend college in Israel. We'll overcome all obstacles for this effort

[Katie Reynolds]

I'd like to do website :)

[Arefin Bari]

I am willing to help.

... Thanks for bringing this up Mr. Kressly.

[Cory]

Rich, I don't know anything about animation, other than what I think looks good or not. Same with website. I do know Inventor well, so I'd be happy to help with that.

[ebmonon36]

i can judge animations
Eric

[Rich Kressly]

Katie's in for website, Cory for Inventor, ebmonon animation. Arefin, where would you like to help? Denman?

Website Judges:
Jessica Boucher, DarkJedi, Katie Reynolds, (room for one more)

Animation:
Kressly, Koko Ed, ebomonon, (room for one more)

Inventor:
Cory, ???

[Denman]

If people in Israel speak Israeli...then us Americans speak American instead of english ;) (They speak Hebrew)

I'd be willing to help as well. thanks, i was tired and not thinking properly

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

I'd like to present another angle to this:

I don't see a single Israeli judge (that I know of that lives in Israel) on that list. I think you may want to find some offiicials, maybe unattached to team or some kind of other coordinator type figure, to help out with the judging, or just to sit in on what's going on.

If the reason an Israel animation and website contest can't be pulled together is judging and coordination difficulties, I would like to ask Israeli Chief Delphi users to nominate someone from their community that would be up to the task and could help arrange a judging contest in years to come.

While I have full confidence in the current list, I think training a regional judging team would make it easier for Israel to create off-season events with animation without having to coordinate overseas.

Good luck.

- Genia

[Josh Hambright]

Rich put me down for Website and Animation.

I cant wait to see the output of these teams, i have always loved both the website and the animation competition, as it draws a whole other group into the FIRSt fray, and i've always been very inspired by both!

[Bharat Nain]

I'd be honored to look at the website and animations. Put me down :)

[thoughtful]

I would be more than honoured to look at the animations and the websites. In case you need more judges i can have a little panel from team 1219 help you guys. Take the lead on this thing, and keep us posted, it will be a great way to show our support all the way around the globe. :)

[Rich Kressly]

Thanks for everyone's positive responses ...
You guys rock!!!
It looks like the only help we still need is with Inventor submissions. I need two or three of you there yet. I'll recompile the lists early Mon AM. :)

[OZ_341]

Rich:


Team 341 would be happy to judge Inventor entries!

[Wave]

wow. first of all I really glad to see all of you that are willing top help us :)

our website is www.avivrobotics.net, and the animation clip is already done, we just need to upload it. if u want to know about the other teams u can check in the official israeli FIRST site - www.firstisrael.org.il

btw, I really dont believe that there are no experts in israel in the animation and websites subjects. Im sure that we can find these people here that will be happy to do this jub.

ty again for all your efforts :)

Gal, steampunk member.

p.s like u can see if u'll check it the site is in English and not in hebrew, nor Israeli ;)

[Rich Kressly]

Thank you for the information Gal. The Israeli teams that completed website, animation, and Inventor entries will all have their seen, "judged", and recognized. If it needs to be "unofficial" this year through the CD community, then that's OK. I'm confident that FIRST will work this out for the future.

[Josh Hambright]

Maybe someone *cough cough brandon or david kelly* would be willing to set up a site that would work somewhat like FIRSTawards.org to help judge these submisions, but also give a place where these submissions could be showcased and viewed by everyone.
Just an idea.

[Brandon Martus]

Maybe someone *cough cough brandon or david kelly* would be willing to set up a site that would work somewhat like FIRSTawards.org to help judge these submisions, but also give a place where these submissions could be showcased and viewed by everyone.
Just an idea.
I've love to help, but I've got waaaaaaaaaay too much going on.

[Josh Hambright]

yeah i kinda saw that one coming....

[Rich Kressly]

No problem Brandon...
We'll handle it as a group.
I'll keep everyone posted.

[ChrisH]

No problem Brandon...
We'll handle it as a group.
I'll keep everyone posted.

Just saw this thread. I've been kind of busy with the Chatsworth Scrimmage and building a robot. But now that I'm back at work and can relax... ;)

I can help out with the Inventor judging.

Eugenia's point is well taken. Judges are best found locally. Corporate executives make good judges because they can help sponsor events and they are used to seeing through the BS. It could just be that FIRST was unable to find enough qualified judges in Israel who were willing to take the time for this. It can be hard enough here in the US, and we live here. Trying to do so remotely, even through the local regional committee would be much harder. I suspect that when it came down to it, they just ran out of resources.

[Rich Kressly]

Alright all .... we've got plenty of help for this now. Here's where I fit everyone in. THANKS. :D

Website Judges:
Jessica Boucher, DarkJedi, Katie Reynolds, Bharat

Animation:
Koko Ed, ebomonon, oneangrydwarf, thoughtful

Inventor:
Cory, Team 341, ChrisH

Others:
Kressly, Denman, Arefin

I'm closing the thread as the next step is to contact the teams to see if they'd like us to do this. I'll take care of this job. If anyone else has anything to add/clarify, please send it to me in a pm.

Look for an update/new thread soon.