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Chris_Elston
23-02-2005, 11:55
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Josh Hambright
23-02-2005, 11:56
WOWIE!!!
Very cool. OKay another reason why i cant wait for Boilermaker regional, reason number 867: To check this robot out in person.
Amazing, truely amazing looking.
Great job!
Ryan Foley
23-02-2005, 12:14
That has to be one of the coolest looking robots I have ever seen.
Great job guys!
Any chance of a white paper on the monocoque construction method at some point?
Chris_Elston
23-02-2005, 12:18
In the summer time, I'll see what I can do to convince the team members to write up something.
Since the photo comments did not post in the forum here is what I said when I posted the picture:
QUOTE again:
"We would like to thank Jerry Smyth and Mike Smyth (father and son) engineering mentors that taught not only the kids but other "sparky" engineering type people like myself how to construct a robot using monocoque. If you don't know monocoque is:
Monocoque is a French word meaning "single shell." Commonly used in aircraft structures in which the outer skin carries all or most of the torsional and bending stresses.
Jerry is a former navy aviator that designed airplanes back in the 60's."
CHAOTICBRET
23-02-2005, 12:32
that robot looks incredible!!... you have a really talented group of kids
JohnBoucher
23-02-2005, 12:41
Way cool. Congrats to all.
Now is that the starting position, or a traveling position. It appears in the picture to be too long.
Chris_Elston
23-02-2005, 12:47
Way cool. Congrats to all.
Now is that the starting position, or a traveling position. It appears in the picture to be too long.
That's the traveling position. Really the arm will be UP most all the time. That position was just for a picture POSE.. ;-)
We have a few more picture here:
http://www.teamthrust.us/docs/2005/Pictures/final/
Sorry our Gallery on our website is broken...
NICE! This has to be one of the finest looking robots I have seen in my 10 years in FIRST.
jparkteach
23-02-2005, 13:35
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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/pics/bin/110917648672.jpg (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pictures.php?&action=single&picid=10050)
Congratulations Chris,
That is a very nice robot! I'll look forward seeing it in action at the competitions. And would love to meet with you and your mentors in person.
JOHN
JohnBoucher
23-02-2005, 14:02
That's the traveling position. Really the arm will be UP most all the time. That position was just for a picture POSE.. ;-)
We have a few more picture here:
http://www.teamthrust.us/docs/2005/Pictures/final/
Sorry our Gallery on our website is broken...
WOW... Thanks for the additional pics. Well worth checking out.
Cool :cool: Very Cool
Stu Bloom
23-02-2005, 14:12
That is certainly one beautiful machine, more like what I would expect to see in BattleBots rather than FIRST ;)
Very nice - but I must say I'm NOT looking forward to competing against you in Lafayette!! :ahh:
ebmonon36
23-02-2005, 14:49
Absolutly beautiful. As everyone else has said, I cant wait to see this at the Boilermaker Regional. How many pop rivets are on that thing? :)
Eric
Wayne Doenges
23-02-2005, 15:06
This is why I asked for the use of the Wind Tunnel :D
We have one student whose only job is to clean and polish our robot :ahh:
Chris, I didn't make the final build day, what is the all up weight?
The arm only weighs 23 pounds with a cylinder that can produce 150 pounds of lift. Between matches we will be launching items into the stands :ahh: :D
The shipping and starting position is with the arm in it's full up position. This fits into the 28"x38"x60" box with some wiggle room. Bot is roughly 27"x37".
We have a 11' ish reach :)
See you all at the Boilermaker regional.
Wayne Doenegs
CAD Mentor
Lemmings non sumus
Chris_Elston
23-02-2005, 15:22
How many pop rivets are on that thing? :)
Eric
We can't tell you how many rivets. We are going to do a contest and make you guess at our PIT... see you there!
Wayne,
I am pretty sure we weighed in at 100lbs without the battery.
Goober!!!
23-02-2005, 17:11
yes it is a really nice robot it is used for a robot and a movable "mirrior" so if any gals need a mirrior at the BoilerMaker regional come talk to me and you can really see your reflection!!! lol
Gabe Salas Jr.
23-02-2005, 18:45
That is a neat design, almost looks as if it is a Surface-to-Air-Missile Launcher. Very sleek, and appropriate team name too! Good job.
Wayne Doenges
24-02-2005, 14:54
SSSHHHHHH Just between you and me (don't tell anyone else) the Army is looking to incorporating this bad boy into their arsenal at the end of the season :D But you didn't hear it from me.
Just found out. Weight = 99 pounds :ahh: It's the first time we have ever came in under weight. The Weight Watchers Diet (tm) really works :rolleyes:
Wayne Doenges
CAD Mentor
Lemmings non sumus
Curt Henderson
26-02-2005, 17:59
If you think this robot looks good, you should see it run!
The arm extends and retracts flawlessly to 11+ feet, 2 speed pneumatic shift on the fly gear boxes and unlimited traction out of our $5 wheels.....What more could you ask for?
JamesBrown
26-02-2005, 18:53
Wow I am extremly impressed, that is among the nicest robots I have seen (yes I know im a rookie competing but it isnt my first time seeing the competition). I was just wondering how tippy you are with the arm out? we were righ aroun 100 pounds on saturday and had to add balist (sp?) I was wondering if you had the same problem or if youre cg was low enough.
Curt Henderson
26-02-2005, 20:56
As Mike, one of our design engineers mentioned, we can hold a Tetra with the arm fully extended without tipping. We haven't fully calculated the actual location of our CG, but the arm weighs in around 27 lbs and we have almost half of 110lbs about 4" off the floor. So in short, it is a Rock with plenty of Roll!
Alex Cormier
26-02-2005, 21:03
what are these $5 wheels that you speak of?
Curt Henderson
26-02-2005, 21:57
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pictures.php?s=&action=single&picid=9711&direction=DESC&sort=date&perrow=4&trows=10&quiet=Quiet
When it seems everyone trys to out do each other with fancy CNC milling, we go the other direction.
robotguy67
27-02-2005, 10:36
Here's a picture of the robot holding a tetra with the arm fully extended. This is with no extra ballast weight in the back. With the arm in the up position fully extended, we could drive around all day with a tetra and not fall over.
C:\ROBOTS\FIRST 2005\ARM_EXT.JPG
As for the traction of the wheels, we had a 300lb-ish team member nealing on a chair with four small metal feet and the robot was able to fairly easily push the chair across the carpet (in low gear, of course).
Mike
Curt Henderson
27-02-2005, 11:58
Here is a link to a photo of our bot with the arm extended.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pictures.php?s=&action=single&picid=10152&direction=DESC&sort=date&perrow=4&trows=10&quiet=Quiet
Conor Ryan
03-03-2005, 15:43
Wow, probably going to be winner of best looking robot. Its too dang pretty. Hope you guys win Rookie All Star and come to the 'ship in Atlanta. I just love the style you gave the robot and the ingunity that went into it. I like the drive train set up you guys have, just from viewing the other pictures you put up.
Chris_Elston
03-03-2005, 23:04
Wow, probably going to be winner of best looking robot. Its too dang pretty. Hope you guys win Rookie All Star and come to the 'ship in Atlanta. I just love the style you gave the robot and the ingunity that went into it. I like the drive train set up you guys have, just from viewing the other pictures you put up.
Thanks very much, but our team is NOT a rookie team. That wouldn't be possible. ;-) Good luck to you guys too!
fire chaser 134
04-03-2005, 22:42
wow looks really good. it almost looks like a S.W.A.T robot. One that they would use to go into hostile situatuions. good job and good luck.
Conor Ryan
04-03-2005, 23:43
Thanks very much, but our team is NOT a rookie team. That wouldn't be possible. ;-) Good luck to you guys too!
high number well i guess i was wrong, regardless, the robot belongs in a museum of modern art, they look for stuff like that. Its just so elegant.
Wayne Doenges
05-03-2005, 00:34
Due to circumstances beyond our control we had to get a new number. Since we have the same students, the same engineers and the same school we have a rookie number but not a rookie status :(
As for the monocoque robot we appreciate all the kind words :)
A little background about monocoque. Each rivet we use (1/8" diameter) has a shear strength of 200 pounds. Every 10 rivets equals 1 ton of shear strength :ahh: Imagine a 5" square piece of .040" aluminum with 16 rivets around the border. Now imagine a wire connecting each rivet to the other 15 rivets and you will see where we get our durability. Those 16 rivets have a shear strength of 3200 pounds.
IMHO I think we have one bad boy robot :D
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus (We are not Lemmings)
Herbie698
05-03-2005, 01:14
Where did you find the conveyer belt material? Great looking bot by the way.
Wayne Doenges
05-03-2005, 02:33
The conveyor belt material, I think, was donated by the company of one of our parents. He works for a cardboard, I mean corrugated box manufacturer :D
With our 110 pound robot, TWO (2) wheel drive, we were able to push a 300+ pound man, sitting on a metal chair across the carpeting :ahh: Can you say massive traction, I knew you could :)
Our bot will turn on a dime and give $.09 change ;)
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
that is fantastic...
...what is your "shell" made of...can you tell us some more how it works?
Wayne Doenges
05-03-2005, 18:42
The entire body and arms are .040" aluminum. The rear trunk lid is .090". There are two 1/8" steel plates that our uprights are bolted to. The uprights themselves are also .040" aluminum. There are NO bolts holding any of it together, only rivets.
When you bend aluminum around a form or into c-channels you increase the rigidity of the aluminum. You than rivet the pieces to each other or to sheets to get the maximum strength. I'm just the CAD mentor so I don't know the whole theory of monocoque assembly. I do know that the arm can withstand tremendous twisting or bending forces.
Hope this helps.
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
Gasperini
06-03-2005, 07:33
It's like a cross between a bird, a jet engine, and a toaster from the 1960's.
Well done. That is a sweet robot.
The real thing I am not understanding is for that to work does it have to be always latched on to the frame? How do you get to things like electronics and to the battery? Do you have to drill out all those rivets and put new ones in?
Wayne Doenges
07-03-2005, 02:21
If you look at the front of the robot you will see a piece of polycarbonate. This covers our electronics, compressor and air tanks.
In the center, between the two uprights, you will see our air bleeder and 12v on/off switch.
At the back you will see two black knobs. You remove the knobs and you can open our trunk :D That's where our battery is. We have plenty of trunk space to add weight if we need to :rolleyes:
The lower chassis is made up of former, bulkheads and sheeting with rivets holding it all together.
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
A few words came to mind when I saw that picture:
"Wow"
"Beautiful"
"Elegant"
"Simple"
It looks like you guys had the same attention to detail and functionality that I aim for when designing software interfaces. Incredible! That's a fantastic robot, and I hope I get the chance to see it in person!
Dave
Wayne Doenges
10-03-2005, 16:01
It's like a cross between a bird, a jet engine, and a toaster from the 1960's.
You are correct.
The bird is a Hawk. We prey on little tetras :ahh:
The jet engine look was taken from the SR-71. We are strong.
And if you look close enough you will see two slots for bread. We are still trying to debug the auto-butterer :D
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
Wayne Doenges
20-03-2005, 08:41
The final rivet count was...........1794.5
We didn't win any awards at the Boilermaker :(
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
Goober!!!
20-03-2005, 13:35
The final rivet count was...........1794.5
We didn't win any awards at the Boilermaker :(
Wayne Doenges
Lemmings non sumus
We did win 2 awards one from the cybearcats for the best button award and we won the professional grade award!!!
roboticsguy1988
20-03-2005, 15:45
We did win 2 awards one from the cybearcats for the best button award and we won the professional grade award!!!
Yes that is true, although we didn't win any during the award ceramonies. The professional grade award is an official FIRST award voted on by all the other teams attending the event. Which we are glad that the teams attending the event thought our team and robot was "professional grade".
However its not about awards and winning, its about learning and having fun, and thats exactly what we did!!! :D
See you all at IRI, and if not there i will see the rest of you next year at the Boilermaker Regional.
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