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UlTiMaTeP
01-04-2005, 14:37
Is it just me or are they really bad for both Houston and Palmetto? For some reason I am getting 8 FPS at like 160x160 off Palmetto and no sound, and a little bit better off of houston with 150kbit connection with sound. Palmetto is almost unwatchable. Does anyone else have a better link?

mms://sargasso-3.arc.nasa.gov/palmetto
http://robotics.nasa.gov/events/webcasts/lonestar.ram
Are the links I have

Katie Reynolds
01-04-2005, 14:40
Using those links, it seems to be moving along alright ... I can see what's going on and the sound is working just fine for me.

The picture quality might not be thre greats but hey - it's better than nothing.

Alex Cormier
01-04-2005, 15:10
cool, thanks for the links

a little off topic, viewing the Palmetto sponsors i see that they used the same picture as my avatar but they added a tetra in the middle, looks cool!

jgannon
01-04-2005, 15:57
a little off topic, viewing the Palmetto sponsors i see that they used the same picture as my avatar but they added a tetra in the middle, looks cool!
I see that... what is the story behind that picture?

BaldwinNYRookie
01-04-2005, 18:53
I watched started watching Houston and Palmetto from the last few matches today, Palmetto was actually better quality than Houston. I thought the Las Vegas regional would be on webcast. What happened?

UlTiMaTeP
01-04-2005, 19:44
I believe the Las Vegas is suppose to be on Nasa tv. Broadcast.com use to do free Nasa webcasts at 300+kbit but they were bought out by yahoo.com, which makes me very sad. Its now a pay service and they no longer have nasa :(

Matt
01-04-2005, 19:55
Las Vegas will be web casted but since it is on NASA TV they only show Saturday's competition.

lynca
01-04-2005, 23:22
The Webacst is connected through a dial-up line because broadband was very expensive at Reliant. Therefore, getting a good connection is difficult, they might be releasing archives of the elimination rounds since we are recording.

Kevin Sevcik
01-04-2005, 23:27
FYI, the webcast for Reliant is actually connected over 128k ISDN line. The technical details mean that it's being encoded twice, so it'll look a bit off from that, too.

UlTiMaTeP
02-04-2005, 00:54
Ah I see, thank you for clearing that up.

miketwalker
02-04-2005, 02:01
FYI, the webcast for Reliant is actually connected over 128k ISDN line. The technical details mean that it's being encoded twice, so it'll look a bit off from that, too.

Even though I'm not a big fan of Realplayer... why not just upload one feed? It'll double the quality... and I'd rather there just be one type of video to view and get the overall quality improvement, even if it's on the less-preferred streaming video. Just an idea.

dez250
02-04-2005, 09:37
For those of you who dont get Nasa TV at home, the following page has links to the webcast of Nasa TV. The schedule says Vegas would be shown from 9am-5pm[EST] today on Nasa TV but currently the regional isnt on.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

KTorak
02-04-2005, 09:52
For those of you who dont get Nasa TV at home, the following page has links to the webcast of Nasa TV. The schedule says Vegas would be shown from 9am-5pm[EST] today on Nasa TV but currently the regional isnt on.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

Thats becuase Vegas is 3 hours behind the East Coast. (I think it's 3, it might be 2).

kjohnson
02-04-2005, 09:54
Thats becuase Vegas is 3 hours behind the East Coast. (I think it's 3, it might be 2).

So its looking like the Las Vegas regional will come on NASA TV around noon EST?

Joe Ross
02-04-2005, 09:55
For those of you who dont get Nasa TV at home, the following page has links to the webcast of Nasa TV. The schedule says Vegas would be shown from 9am-5pm[EST] today on Nasa TV but currently the regional isnt on.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

There isn't a whole lot to show at 6am PST. As we saw earlier this year, the NASA TV schedule hasn't been very accurate. Try tuning in again at noon EST.

dez250
02-04-2005, 10:06
Is anyone who is watcing the palmetto webcast noticing the video will distort and turn green and flip upsidedown? This happened to me once yesturday and i though it might have just been me, but now its occuring approx. every 3 mins and im wondering if its just me or anyone else also?

kjohnson
02-04-2005, 10:20
Is anyone who is watcing the palmetto webcast noticing the video will distort and turn green and flip upsidedown? This happened to me once yesturday and i though it might have just been me, but now its occuring approx. every 3 mins and im wondering if its just me or anyone else also?

I've been watching Palmetto for about 40 minutes now and haven't had anything like this happen to me. What version of WMP are you using? The newest version is version 10 - try downloading it if you don't have it.

UlTiMaTeP
02-04-2005, 11:29
Is anyone who is watcing the palmetto webcast noticing the video will distort and turn green and flip upsidedown? This happened to me once yesturday and i though it might have just been me, but now its occuring approx. every 3 mins and im wondering if its just me or anyone else also?

Yea weird stuff is happening, I really wanted to watch this regional because of the amount of teams from my area that went, and I am sad, that its the size of a postage stamp, distorted and looks very smeary :( But the sound is great!

kjohnson
02-04-2005, 11:44
Theres nothing weird happening with my webcast - just that my internet is slow and doesn't pick it up good.

The satellite webcast of the Las Vegas regional is on, but only displaying the FIRST logo - and a brief message that said the regional webcast will begin at 9:30 PST.

jgannon
02-04-2005, 13:12
Is anyone who is watcing the palmetto webcast noticing the video will distort and turn green and flip upsidedown? This happened to me once yesturday and i though it might have just been me, but now its occuring approx. every 3 mins and im wondering if its just me or anyone else also?
That has happened here a few times, too. It's frustrating. Stopping and restarting the stream seems to fix it temporarily. Oh well... I'll be switching back to the Lone Star feed in less than an hour so I can see 624 cap the center in autonomous. *crosses fingers*

Ryan Dognaux
02-04-2005, 17:58
Anyone figure out why the Las Vegas FIRST Regional just went out and some kids TV show came in on NASA TV?

miketwalker
02-04-2005, 18:07
Anyone figure out why the Las Vegas FIRST Regional just went out and some kids TV show came in on NASA TV?

I think NASA has the satellites setup to automatically swap at 6pm for the Video Archive thing they show at certain times each day. That show just happened to be the end I guess of whatever was running on the feed they swapped back to. :( Makes me really sad, it swapped right as finals began.

Kevin Sevcik
02-04-2005, 22:09
Even though I'm not a big fan of Realplayer... why not just upload one feed? It'll double the quality... and I'd rather there just be one type of video to view and get the overall quality improvement, even if it's on the less-preferred streaming video. Just an idea.


By encoded twice, I meant encoded once, then encoded again. The AV feed is routed into a Polycom videoconferencing codec, which dials into a NASA MCU or endpoint. So it's encoded once at Lone Star by the Polycom, and then presumably again at the NASA site to get it into Realplayer format. So two rounds of lossy compression can make for some odd video sometimes.

fluffykid
03-04-2005, 00:11
Is anyone who is watcing the palmetto webcast noticing the video will distort and turn green and flip upsidedown? This happened to me once yesturday and i though it might have just been me, but now its occuring approx. every 3 mins and im wondering if its just me or anyone else also?

thathappened to me while i was watching the semifinals for the lonestar regional as well. it happened twice during 4 matches before the batt on my laptop died.
but i still got to see my team do some good. :D

fluffykid
03-04-2005, 00:13
That has happened here a few times, too. It's frustrating. Stopping and restarting the stream seems to fix it temporarily. Oh well... I'll be switching back to the Lone Star feed in less than an hour so I can see 624 cap the center in autonomous. *crosses fingers*
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