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Wetzel
15-04-2002, 02:36
Ok, we all know from that other thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3511) what not to do.
So what should guys do if they want to succusfully get a number or dinner?

Wetzel

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Research saves time and prevents slapping.
:D

Joel J
15-04-2002, 11:21
Originally posted by Wetzel
Ok, we all know from that other thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3511) what not to do.
So what should guys do if they want to succusfully get a number or dinner?

Wetzel

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Research saves time and prevents slapping.
:D Ahaha, pure [Edit: genius] . . will anyone answer, though?

A. Snodgrass
15-04-2002, 11:22
Jeff: quite simply be polite, be nice, be kind and be sweet. and DONT be inappropriate if you dont want to get slapped!

asher
15-04-2002, 11:26
I thought you were dating some "robotics hottie" wetzel... anywho shouldn't you be worrying about your robot, not all the girls around anyway? maybe that's just me ... but if you do try and pick someone up, be friendly, but not serial killer friendly, don't try and touch the girl, don't pull the "can i take my picture with you" and if you make some dumb pick up line that involves the word robot then just tuck your tail and run, really 95% of cases you should just hit yourself and turn around before the girls boyfriend on the team walks up and pummels you, but hey maybe that's your style...

Team238-aholic
15-04-2002, 12:17
Hmmm picking up girls...i'm assuming at the FIRST Competition...lol....well...from my experience of being a cute girl at the competitions...hahahaha (well at least I think I am)...one year the hotel we stayed at...another team (one from arizona that will remain nameless :) ) , was staying the floor above us, and our rooms had like balconys, and as soon as we arrived, the boys tried to pick up me and my friend Melissa...lol...they were just being cute, and asking what team we were from and stuff..."Can we trade pins" type of deal....

So if your looking to pick up girls...maybe go up to them, and ask them if they want to trade pins, and make small talk...hey, i know it worked for those boys...lol! Just be yourself...girls like that....yep....good plan....

Dave_222
15-04-2002, 13:17
Hey what about... No never mind. Well maybee... No forget that too. Hey just forget I said anything. Because you know I really didnt say anything. :rolleyes:

Pamela
15-04-2002, 14:20
Don't use trading pins to pick up girls!!!! its bad realll bad, my team will laugh at you b/c it happens so often to girls on my team it's funny now! Offer the girl food... always catches my attention.... actually if I didn't know you I'd find it weird... hmmm.... I guess the best way is to make a comment about something to strike up a conversation then stop by and talk agian randomly during the day then when you're about to hit the parks ask if the girl has gone on a ride, if she says no, say you have to try it, you want to go with me? or if she says yes, say, wasn't it really cool? you want to ride it agian? groups equal good for going around parks so bring some friends along and have her bring friends along so its not weird b/c you don't really knwo eachother!

Amy Beth
15-04-2002, 16:34
Originally posted by Wetzel
Ok, we all know from that other thread (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3511) what not to do.
So what should guys do if they want to succusfully get a number or dinner?

Wetz...what happened to your last signature?? Your robotics hottie dump u? That y u looking for ways to pick up new girls?

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guys want my number? ask my brother :D

Melissa Nute
15-04-2002, 16:52
Um treat the girls with respect, that could help.
Also don't come up and be all touchy-feelie, that is the worst thing a guy could do...

DanL
15-04-2002, 18:40
drats! There goes plan A!
*throws rose onto ground, smashes it with foot*

Onto Plan B...
*runs around corner, sound of car door slamming, tires screech in the background*

Ben Mitchell
15-04-2002, 18:46
I always try and act relaxed, and try to ease into the situation. Walk up to her, and act natural.

letting your hormones/emotions take control of your mouth/body isnt the way to go. I'm a guy (trust me;) ) So gals, correct me if Im wrong, but acting macho as well as too "touchie feelie" is definitly a negative. Coming straight outta nowhere, reciting love poetry may also be a little weird, but may that be a good thing, perhaps, if done properly (plz someone help me out w/ an answer here)

Try to become friends before anything else. That way, even if she does have a boyfriend, the relationship is'nt built on nothing, anf you still gain a friend in the end:D It's always nice to have friends, even if the romance does'nt come out the way you expected (darn, i just bought a golden retreiver and painted the whtie picket fence!)

just my 2 cents, correct me if im wrong though, (or say so if I'm right :cool:.

Of course, if its poetry you want...not a problem

--Ben Mitchell

Scorpion515
15-04-2002, 19:46
Ok, guys. Speaking from what really annoys me...

What NOT to do:

:mad: Don't do everything for us, we probably aren't on FIRST if we can't carry the control board or cut a wire

:mad: Don't act macho, we don't care how "incredible" you think you are.

:mad: Don't stereotype us girls. Most of us robotics girls, aren't the typical flakes (not insulting flakes!)

What to DO:

:) Be polite.

:) Offer to help, but don't insist if we refuse.

:) If you know us well enough (not first time meeting), talk about something we both enjoy.

Hope this helps!:D

Ben Mitchell
16-04-2002, 19:19
A question for the ladies out there: Guys holding doors open for you: Good, bad, or indifferent? Is me being chivalrous a waste of time, or a good thing?

--Ben Mitchell

A. Snodgrass
16-04-2002, 19:25
I always thought of it as a sign of respect but then again I have friends who find it offensive and belittling...simple answer: it depends totally on the girl. It never hurts to be kind though, guy or girl, and holding open a door for somebody is just common courtesy in my opinion. Now pulling out the chair for the lady...ive heard more debate over THAT then the door. And no Ben...its not a waste of time.
If you treat the lady with respect...you are doing just fine.

Melissa Nute
16-04-2002, 20:14
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
A question for the ladies out there: Guys holding doors open for you: Good, bad, or indifferent? Is me being chivalrous a waste of time, or a good thing?

--Ben Mitchell
I think it is a good thing, I alway find it sweet when I guy does that.

Scorpion515
16-04-2002, 21:19
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
A question for the ladies out there: Guys holding doors open for you: Good, bad, or indifferent? Is me being chivalrous a waste of time, or a good thing?

--Ben Mitchell

Good!

Pamela
16-04-2002, 21:22
Its so cute when guys are polite and hold doors open, even if its for someone else, no matter who they are holding the door for its still a good thing!

Judy
16-04-2002, 22:00
I'm stubborned personally... if a guy tries to hold a door open for me, I make them go thru it... but that's just me being me, it's still nice they offered tho...
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie- team 783

srawls
16-04-2002, 22:05
hmm, let's see what I've learned from this thread. What's the best way to pick up a girl? It Depends! lol, girls can't make up their mind, who would've thought :D ok, that remark prolly won't help me pick any of you up. oh well, I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that's realized from the replies that it pretty much completely depends on the girl.

Stephen

Melissa Nute
16-04-2002, 22:07
Originally posted by srawls
hmm, let's see what I've learned from this thread. What's the best way to pick up a girl? It Depends! lol, girls can't make up their mind, who would've thought :D ok, that remark prolly won't help me pick any of you up. oh well, I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that's realized from the replies that it pretty much completely depends on the girl.

Stephen
exactly

Wetzel
16-04-2002, 22:39
Women....
:rollseyes:

Wetzel

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Ducks out the back

Stephanie
17-04-2002, 02:14
holding doors open: good
being polite :good
being cooperative: good
offering help: good

being pushy: bad
being rude: bad
being chauvanistic: bad

and, yes, it does depend on the girl... ;)

hope this helps y'all

Maikettei
17-04-2002, 09:54
Originally posted by srawls
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that's realized from the replies that it pretty much completely depends on the girl.


Well, yes. Too often guys assume there must be SOMETHING they can do to understand girls, forgetting that every girl is different from the others. Is every guy the same? Of course not. Your best bet is to find the type of girl you want to attract. Then ask a girl similar to your type what she likes. :)

A. Snodgrass
17-04-2002, 11:21
One thing I havent heard mentioned...compliments are always good. But think out what you compliment first and make sure you actually MEAN that compliment. Also a universal one....treat the girl like she is your equal in intellegence. This might seem like Im stating the obvious...but Ive had it happen OH too many times to count. Which means respect...which I believe I already stated at one point. While certain things can depend on the girl, others are universal. Just paying attention, and LISTENING to what she says are always good things.

When you try to understand girls as a whole...you are doing a disservice to yourself and to the ladies out there. No woman is the same as another. That means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We are not a species to be deciphered. Which means we all act differently. Just try to figure out what you would LIKE to see in a girl, and look for that trait. And from experience, try to look at the personality as much as the looks. It will save you grief in the long run.

AdamT
17-04-2002, 12:10
Step one to getting a girl:

1) Think about your approach
2) Ask Mike Soukup for advise, he has THE BEST dating advise
3) Really listen to that advise and do what he says
4)Try and try again

and the final step:

5) Life is like one big "Champagne Room"; she can touch you all she wants, but don't even think about touching her...:eek:

A. Snodgrass
17-04-2002, 12:12
Ummmm adam...

A. Snodgrass
17-04-2002, 12:16
you forgot to mention where they can TALK to mikey about dating advice....

AdamT
17-04-2002, 12:17
Oh, you can find him around...he's got that one ear that is...oh man...SO sexy!

Try tigerbolt if you really want some good advise, we're ALWAYS willing to give advise in tigerbolt!

A. Snodgrass
17-04-2002, 12:18
THATS true.... Im referring to the second part about tigerbolt I mean. the ear....well...Im withholding judgement till I see it a second time in person.

Amy Beth
17-04-2002, 12:23
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
A question for the ladies out there: Guys holding doors open for you: Good, bad, or indifferent? Is me being chivalrous a waste of time, or a good thing?

DEFINITELY a good thing, HOWEVER, not as a way to pick girls up. Just make a habit of always treating girls with respect (whether you like them or not!!) so that when you meet *her*, she will know exactly what kind of guy you are.

Ben Mitchell
17-04-2002, 14:53
Whew! I knew holding doors open was a good thing. Thanks.

(sign of relief) I would want that gesture to come across as kind and courteous, not as belittling or macho.

Greg McCoy
17-04-2002, 16:01
I thought that holding the door for the person for the person behind you was just common courtesy. It's always annoying when the person in front of you just lets it close :)

ahecht
17-04-2002, 16:12
Exactly. I always hold the door open for anyone -- regardless of sex.

Carolyn Duncan
17-04-2002, 16:38
Ok, rather than try to comment on every little thing that was said here's what I'll say. The best way that is universal is just to make little comments about comon interests (robotic type things are obvious at comps) I think that most chicas will know that you are just trying to be friendly and give you the benefit of the doubt. if she is a nice person who is at least interested in being friends she will help you out with conversation topics. If she is snotty then you can just be like , ok this isn't worth my time. Treat her the way you would act if your mother or grandmother, or maybe more importantly HER mother or grandmother, were watching you. Then once you establish a relationship, friends counts, you don't have to be so nervous. Ok, well that's just kind of basic and general knowledge. Have fun!

Jim McGeehin
17-04-2002, 19:08
Hold on, I'm still writing notes...LOL

I've been polite and all that, but it certainly helps if not only do you become interested in them, you are an interesting person as well. I've failed that test...

dlavery
17-04-2002, 20:58
Girls: Whats the best way to pick you up?

In priority order:

1. Place one hand under each armpit, and lift straight up
2. Clean and jerk, and hold in a full press over your head
2-A. If you are trying to lift twins, dumbbell lunges are preferable
3. Grab with one arm around the waist, lift, and balance on your hip
4. Sling 'em across your back in a fireman's carry


(Dave ducks and runs for cover) Sorry, I couldn't resist - I have been waiting for three days for someone to say this! :D

-dave

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"It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts."
- G. B. Burgin

A. Snodgrass
17-04-2002, 20:59
LOL dave!

Melissa Nute
17-04-2002, 21:02
Dave - haha,

Amy Beth
18-04-2002, 00:41
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
Whew! I knew holding doors open was a good thing. Thanks.

(sign of relief) I would want that gesture to come across as kind and courteous, not as belittling or macho.

You know, there is one other thing to consider. Just because Jill, Pamela, and I say that we appreciate guys holding doors for us, not *all* girls will always like that. Think about what kind of girl you want. Does she seem like she would appreciate guys showing some consideration, or is she a very independent person who would be insulted by that? Just something to consider.

Also, Greg and Zan, there is a difference between what you are talking about and what Ben was asking. Obviously, if there is someone behind you as you walk through the door, it doesn't matter if you are a guy or a girl or if they are a guy or a girl, it is common courtesy to hold the door for them. But i think what Ben was talking about (least what i was talking about) is if you are walking together with a girl. It is simply a sign of respect for the guy to step ahead and open the door for the girl. I have some girlfriends who will stand and wait until the guy opens the door for them, and others who will purposely step ahead so the guy cannot open the door for them. It really depends on the girl. If a guy wants to open a door for me, i will let him, but i would never pause and wait for him to do it if he doesn't act like he otherwise would.

Bondage
18-04-2002, 05:18
so I tried really really hard to think of something to write here about being picked up...

but the only thing I could think of was how I don't approve of you picking girls up.

hmph.

I'll see you tommorow.

asher
18-04-2002, 10:02
I'm the girl that will stand outside the door and wait for the guy to come back and open it, someone has to train these boys after all. Its a fun experiment girls, next time you go out with any guys on your team, don't open any doors, just see what their reaction is, I think youll be suprised.

ashley

MissInformation
18-04-2002, 10:24
You know, there is one other thing to consider. Just because Jill, Pamela, and I say that we appreciate guys holding doors for us, not *all* girls will always like that. Think about what kind of girl you want. Does she seem like she would appreciate guys showing some consideration, or is she a very independent person who would be insulted by that? Just something to consider.

You said that right! I think door holding should be done by whoever reaches the door first. I work with a man who is, by far, the most polite creature I've ever known. Even if his arms are full, he will rush ahead and open a door for you. Always opens the car door (and closes it behind you). Would probably hop out and open the car door for you to get out of the car if he were quick enough. Always pre-apologizes if he thinks he's going to offend you, which he thinks he does, quite a lot. It gets annoying. And since I know it gets his goat (why I would want his goat, I don't know) I always try to get to doors to open them for him! I think good manners are wonderful, as long as they are not overdone.

And boys, you don't want to be macho and overbearing (well, some chicks dig that) but neither do you want to be a puppy dog. If you're a puppy dog, you are most likely going to get someone like me, who eats puppy dogs for breakfast!

MissInformation

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It is loneliness that makes the loudest noise. This is true of men as of dogs. -Eric Hoffer

Ben Mitchell
18-04-2002, 10:53
Originally posted by AmyBeth330


Also, Greg and Zan, there is a difference between what you are talking about and what Ben was asking. Obviously, if there is someone behind you as you walk through the door, it doesn't matter if you are a guy or a girl or if they are a guy or a girl, it is common courtesy to hold the door for them. But i think what Ben was talking about (least what i was talking about) is if you are walking together with a girl. It is simply a sign of respect for the guy to step ahead and open the door for the girl. I have some girlfriends who will stand and wait until the guy opens the door for them, and others who will purposely step ahead so the guy cannot open the door for them. It really depends on the girl. If a guy wants to open a door for me, i will let him, but i would never pause and wait for him to do it if he doesn't act like he otherwise would.

Yes, that was what i was asking, sorry if there was any confusion (it goes without saying that you hold doors open for people whoever they are if both are going through the same door)

D.J. Fluck
18-04-2002, 10:58
Originally posted by Greg McCoy
I thought that holding the door for the person for the person behind you was just common courtesy. It's always annoying when the person in front of you just lets it close :)

I agree Greg, except when your brother (or other sibbling) is taking forever to go out the door and then i slam the door in his face....:D

Greg McCoy
18-04-2002, 11:59
Well, there are always exceptions :D

RebAl
18-04-2002, 17:22
What about a revolving door?? :confused: :D
Do you let the person go first then you go, do you go first and let them come behind, do you both go together ?!?!? AHHHHHHH!!!!!:eek:

Harrison
18-04-2002, 17:30
Originally posted by asher
I'm the girl that will stand outside the door and wait for the guy to come back and open it, someone has to train these boys after all. Its a fun experiment girls, next time you go out with any guys on your team, don't open any doors, just see what their reaction is, I think youll be suprised.

ashley

Evil! Pure evil!

...But if you pick your dates well, then this shouldn't be a problem, now should it? =)

BTW, I do hold doors just out of courtesy for people - date or not...I think it's just one of those manners things that EVERYONE should pay attention too.

Ever notice how many rude people are around? Just go to a mall and everyone has an attitude or something...

A. Snodgrass
18-04-2002, 17:33
Originally posted by RebAl
What about a revolving door?? :confused: :D
Do you let the person go first then you go, do you go first and let them come behind, do you both go together ?!?!? AHHHHHHH!!!!!:eek:

The best answer is you go together, or you let the guy go first if its a manual and they start pushing it around. Its complecated though. You could ask your date you know.....

RebAl
18-04-2002, 17:39
Originally posted by A. Snodgrass


The best answer is you go together, or you let the guy go first if its a manual and they start pushing it around. Its complecated though. You could ask your date you know.....

This sort of thing be graphed and calculated for all possibilities, where is the manual? Equation? :D How about a elevator door, do you push the button or give the honor over to the other person?

Ben Mitchell
18-04-2002, 17:53
Originally posted by asher
I'm the girl that will stand outside the door and wait for the guy to come back and open it, someone has to train these boys after all. Its a fun experiment girls, next time you go out with any guys on your team, don't open any doors, just see what their reaction is, I think youll be suprised.



Not evil, I think. I think it would be...amusing(;)), perhaps...

At least then you'd know who the "nice guys" are:p ! (or maybe its just me, I'd probably be the one holding the door open... ;))

RebAl
18-04-2002, 18:01
Oh, and how about this one, You hold the door open and people just keep coming some even running to the door so they wont have to open it, when is enough enough and you should close it??

Melissa Nute
18-04-2002, 18:54
Originally posted by RebAl


This sort of thing be graphed and calculated for all possibilities, where is the manual? Equation? :D How about a elevator door, do you push the button or give the honor over to the other person?

Does it really matter that much? Most girls could care less about the elevator door.

DanL
18-04-2002, 19:02
you mean... girls don't get pleasure from pressing random buttons that then light up?

Melissa Nute
18-04-2002, 19:05
Originally posted by SuperDanman
you mean... girls don't get pleasure from pressing random buttons that then light up?
sometimes we do...
but we aren't going to think any less of a guy if he presses the elevator button before we do, at least that is what I think.

Perseus
18-04-2002, 20:00
The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think.


remember, its just a joke

Ben Mitchell
18-04-2002, 20:05
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Whoa there! He in no manner represents me or my beliefs on this matter!

(just for the record, I don't want any thunderbolts coming my way;))

Jan Olligs
18-04-2002, 20:07
Hey, we're FIRST team members. Why think that we are normal?

Melissa Nute
18-04-2002, 20:07
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
:eek: :eek: :eek:

He in no manner represents me or my beliefs on this matter!


(just for the record)
Yeah there is a decent one in the crowd, *sarcastic*I would hope that most guys aren't like Perseus. hehe. :)

Perseus
18-04-2002, 21:06
give me a break. You guys need to relax. i was just searching the web and saw the quote. I thought it was kind of funny and since it was kinda related to this thrad i posted it for the enjoyment of others

it in "no way represents my manner or beliefs" THats why i said it was a joke: something not to be taken seriously....



if it did offend you, sorry, it wasnt intended to. So, yearbook, i apologize if you got mad at me for the joke

Melissa Nute
18-04-2002, 21:19
I wasn't mad at you. I thought I had put a laughing smilie after my post, but I guess I didn't. I hope most guys wouldn't think that, though some do.

I understand it was a joke, so I have my own weird sense of humor to respond to such jokes.

Harrison
18-04-2002, 22:38
Easy there killers...I don't want to have to break-up any cat fights ;)

More seriously...Can a guy be friendly to a girl, without the girl just assuming hes going after her?

A. Snodgrass
18-04-2002, 22:39
depends on what you mean by friendly and depends on how well the girl knows the guy. I have friends who I know very well who sometimes mock flirt with each other and nobody assumes they are going after each other. I think it depends.

Pamela
19-04-2002, 00:37
Well at least in my case, I'm one of those unassuming girls, unless you're being a major flirt I will never pick up on the fact yoou want to be more the friends. So if you talk to me, friends i always what I'm thinkikgn of.... guess thats what happens when you hang out with a robotics team... and play boys soccer.... I'd even dare say, after seeing certain guys at their worst I wouldn't want them to be looking for anything but a friendship, but thats just cause all my close friends are mainly male.....

So to answer your question more directly, yeh, I'll think you want to be friends, but most girls I venture to say woudl think you're looking for more if you just randomly started talkign to a girl....

Melissa Nute
19-04-2002, 06:28
Originally posted by Harrison
More seriously...Can a guy be friendly to a girl, without the girl just assuming hes going after her?
Yeah they can, if you mean by being friendly just talking and joking. As long as there isn't an brushing up against each other or trying to spend all your free time with her, usually, at least for my friends and me, girl wouldn't take it as flirting

Amy Beth
19-04-2002, 19:03
Originally posted by Harrison
Can a guy be friendly to a girl, without the girl just assuming hes going after her?

Come talk to me!!!! i'll be your friend!!! Seriously, i am the sort of girl who never gets a clue that a guy is after her until he actually asks for her number. I would love it if more guys just wanted to be friends (i realize that is hard for some of you, but that's how you get my attention :D)

Ben Mitchell
19-04-2002, 21:15
I guess the lines between friendship and flirting are somewhat hazy...I'd rather have friends, though, they last longer.:)

65 posts!

If this keeps up, Brandon will need to make a subforum:D

this thread is interesting though, as personalities begin to emerge from advice... some more than others, i think ;)

I can't wait to go to florida next year! I can feel the sunshine already:cool: I'm really bummed out that i cant go this year:( but it guess that's how it goes...sniff

--Ben Mitchell

Greg Perkins
19-04-2002, 22:39
Originally posted by AmyBeth330


Come talk to me!!!! i'll be your friend!!! Seriously, i am the sort of girl who never gets a clue that a guy is after her until he actually asks for her number. I would love it if more guys just wanted to be friends (i realize that is hard for some of you, but that's how you get my attention :D)

Amybeth, Ill be your friend:) lol. meet me in the pits at Nationals!
my team is 151! I totally know where you are coming from, well from a guy's perspective though!


Badjokeguy(aka: Greg)

Harrison
19-04-2002, 22:41
Personally I have a lot of friends that are girls and I wouldn't really want to be more than that with them...

I think some 'couples' work better as close friends rather than a true couple...But then on the other hand lots make really good couples.

I'm all for guy/girl non-dating relationships.

ChrisA
20-04-2002, 12:34
after reading this thread i have concluded that best way to pick up girls is by creating a topic in a forum asking girls what the best way to pick them up is...

i dont know about anybody else but ive seen more girls posting here than any other topic so i think its working

DanL
20-04-2002, 15:25
lol, you know what? you just might be on to something...

Katie Reynolds
20-04-2002, 15:41
Haha that's great - about the whole 'can you be friendly to a girl without her thinking you're trying to hook up with her' deal: the answer is yes!! Though I do know a few girls, who, if a guy starts talking to them they will automatically assume he wants her ... but those are exceptions to the rule ;) I'm presonally all for talking to anyone and everyone. Lol, if you're bored - come say hi! I'll be in 93's pit area at nationals :)

- Katie

Amy Beth
20-04-2002, 17:24
Originally posted by badjokeguy


Amybeth, Ill be your friend:) lol. meet me in the pits at Nationals!
my team is 151! I totally know where you are coming from, well from a guy's perspective though!


LOL, yay!!! i have a new friend!!! See ya in florida, greg!!!

Greg McCoy
20-04-2002, 20:18
Originally posted by ChrisA
after reading this thread i have concluded that best way to pick up girls is by creating a topic in a forum asking girls what the best way to pick them up is...

i dont know about anybody else but ive seen more girls posting here than any other topic so i think its working

Haha, I was thinking the same thing.

Harrison
20-04-2002, 20:29
shhhhhhhhhhhhh...They'll catch on....lol ;)

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 21:58
Wait wait guys i got an idea why don't you let the girls pick u up :p . Not all of us are shy.

Harrison
20-04-2002, 22:19
Hey I'm all for that!

I hate having to ask girls out...I always mange to make myself sound like an idiot...lol

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 22:24
Originally posted by Harrison
I hate having to ask girls out...I always mange to make myself sound like an idiot...lol
No, unlike what you guys think, you don't sound like an idoit, unless you start the convo with "Do you like me?"

Harrison
20-04-2002, 22:28
I don't do that...lol (*phew*)

I generally start with small talk....Hows ur day...that kinda stuff...Then eventually 'Do you want to do something sometime'...

That a 'yay' or a 'nay'?

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 22:32
Yeah, that is usually a good thing. At least in my opinion.

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 22:42
We'll that ok, and what is wrong with i like u. I have to respect a guy that has the guts to just tel u straight out without the bullcrap. but harrsion ur aproach i like standard. how bout everyone be creative. but as a girl if there is a guy i find appealing then why wait for him to mak a move.

Harrison
20-04-2002, 22:42
What about the introduction of compliments or 'observations'.

Such as "Hey yearbook I noticed your picture has been viewd 670 times"....

Good idea, bad idea?

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 22:45
:confused:Really it has? Dang that is a lot.
I take that as a compliment actually, so it is a good idea, i guess.

Harrison
20-04-2002, 22:47
lol, yea it has....You're only 590 ahead of me :P

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 22:50
Originally posted by Harrison
lol, yea it has....You're only 590 ahead of me :P
Dang...

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 22:51
observations are really good. So is something witty. Like in the case of FIRST stuff u can't really ask them out but u can get an email a screen name. dont just ask for it think of something cleaver. did u noe when elvis met his wife she said i always wanted to meet a king but noe that ihave i'm kinda disappointed. so something she will remember is good

Harrison
20-04-2002, 22:54
...Is it just me or does what she said to him sound like an insult?

And yearbook...If we sit on my pic and hit refresh for a while we could get me up to your levels...lol

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 22:56
We could do that, but that would be wrong, since you won't actually know how many people wanted to view your pick...

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 22:58
well he remembered didn't he, you know how many guys are at FIRST so stand out thatz all. harrisionif u stop b team 334 i wanna hear orginality

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 23:00
Originally posted by devilzangel1014
well he remembered didn't he, you know how many guys are at FIRST so stand out thatz all. harrisionif u stop b team 334 i wanna hear orginality
same goes if you stop by team 86

Harrison
20-04-2002, 23:02
You and your logic, YB ;)

As for stopping by any teams pits that will have to wait till next year...My team won't be in florida due to lack of funding...But we'll doing the CR, GLR, and Florida next year...The joys of no longer being a rookie team.

BTW, I expect to see both of your teams at the Canadian Regional in toronto next year ;)

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 23:04
Originally posted by Harrison
BTW, I expect to see both of your teams at the Canadian Regional in toronto next year ;)
Don't count on that...we can only go to KSC next year I think.

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 23:06
Hmmm canadian regional, how many NYC teams were there. We like it in our city, the filth, the smoke, the tourist that ca't cross streets and stare at building b/ c they are big. But we well see u in FL

Harrison
20-04-2002, 23:06
KSC?...Kenndy Space Centre?

And you're already so close to Epcot (at least compared to me)...So all u guys have to do is win the KSC one and ur all set...

Or, we could get Delphi to give both our teams money - they've got enough....lol...That would be funny, teams sponsoring each other...

and there were a few NY teams at the CR...There were 19 american teams here...Not sure exactly where all of them were from.

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 23:08
We'll try to win,

Team sponsering other teams? Isn't that the same as mentoring?

Harrison
20-04-2002, 23:11
I guess it kinda does....But Mentoring usally doesn't involve ca$h grants...Sposorship does :D

BTW...Methinks it would be easier to chat in like AOL/ICQ or something...lol

44933505 on icq HarryRocks69 on aol.

Melissa Nute
20-04-2002, 23:12
Originally posted by Harrison
I guess it kinda does....But Mentoring usally doesn't involve ca$h grants...Sposorship does :D

BTW...Methinks it would be easier to chat in like AOL/ICQ or something...lol

44933505 on icq HarryRocks69 on aol.
Yeah it would be, my SN is Yearbook50, I don't have ICQ

devilzangel1014
20-04-2002, 23:13
Haahahahaha delphi giving anyone money, ho abut he teams that can afford it pay for allannces (under tables of course) word has it that some of that happened at the NYC regional

Harrison
20-04-2002, 23:14
Alright...

Time to get to a more 'instant' messenging system...lol

Ben Mitchell
21-04-2002, 13:02
Could this be perhaps the longest thread ever?

Harrison
21-04-2002, 13:06
I would say it is definately up there...At least in this conference.

Ben Mitchell
21-04-2002, 13:13
So what have we learned so far....

1. Hold doors open:p

2. Don't be fake or macho or a wimp (easier for some than others)

3. Be casual, not overzealous or passionate

4. Poetry and Sonnets can wait for the 2nd date

5. FIRST is an awesome way to meet people, and we all need to hang out in Florida next year (hopefully)

6. Contact is a good indicator of interest versus flirting

(just a quick summary)

--Ben Mitchell
(I'll try and post a picture of myself soon, I just need to find a good one)

srawls
21-04-2002, 13:15
we leave for nats in 2 days! yay! so, how about a little last minute advice, ladies :) so far at the team parties I've been, there hasn't been that much dancing, mainly teams just stayed in their group. What does a guy need to do to dance or just hang out with you?

Stephen

P.S lol, this thread is so big it needs its own summary! :)

Pamela
21-04-2002, 13:31
just walk up to a girl and ask her to dance! at least in my case I would prolly say yes no matter what! or just be like my team and join random groups and start dancing, its fun that way!

Melissa Nute
21-04-2002, 16:20
Um, walk up to the girl, then ask her to dance. That usually works.

srawls
21-04-2002, 17:21
ahh, so that's the secret, huh? it's got less arcane rituals than I thought, but if it works ... :)

Stephen

Melissa Nute
21-04-2002, 17:26
yep that is the secret, works quite well too

Harrison
21-04-2002, 17:42
...Nah...That can't be it...It's tooooooo simple...

Melissa Nute
21-04-2002, 18:05
Simple can work, unlike what you guys think.

Harrison
21-04-2002, 18:16
Nooooooooooooooo!!!

...Just like the Wierd Al song says 'Everything you know is wrong'...He was talking to us guys...lol

Ben Mitchell
21-04-2002, 19:02
Not everything, I hope:( There's at least some sort of good thing about mostly everyone. Me, I'm pretty good at speaking and writing, how useful it would be with regards to informal courtship, I have no idea, but hey, whatever.

C'mon Harry, you seem like a cool dude, I don't think you need to be THAT hard on yourself:) (unless of course, its all a plot to make girls feel sorry for you;) )

--Ben Mitchell
--AIM: lonewolf357indie (don't ask)

SPAMcutie180
21-04-2002, 19:24
Ok I found this thread interesting......I guess I'm an odd ball
I dunno it that's a good thing or bad thing because I like it when guys act totally diffrent aroudn me than what the other girls have said. I'll explain!

Well I guess you could say I'm a cute girl...but I'm also a tuff tom-boyis girl....weird huh? So I don't like it when guys try ot be extra nice to me just cuz I'm a girl...I get the door for the guy most of the time but I guess thats just me being my independent self...and I like a guy that puts up a challenge....like oh I can do this.......I bet you can't....then I get to show him up=) HeHe I guess I like it when a guy treats me some what like "one of the other guys" Not just like OMG shes a chick I gotta hold the door open I gotta do this.....I gotta do that....I gotta I gotta I gotta! HeHe!
I rather the guy be fun and not afraid to mess around and be himself! Don't be all mushy gushy around me.....be yourself and do what you do around other guys....I like to play football and mess around and wrestle and stuff but that's just me...I like to be ruff and tuff...but I find most guys....if any don't really like that...so if your a guy and don't mind a girl that act and do anythign that guy can....then come say hi to me at NATS! My name is Nicole and I'm on team 180.
I'm lookin forward to a guy that can accept me for who I am and allow me to act the way I please..ya know?
Girls are always saying they don't want a fake guy......that's how I am and I want a guy where I don't have to act fake around!
HeHe

I hope you all learned something!
LoL

Love ya all!
Nikki
team 180
SPAM!

Scorpion515
21-04-2002, 19:26
Finally!!! I'm not alone. I'm exactly like Nikki, but I dind't have the patience to write all that out!

SolderQueen
21-04-2002, 21:09
Jeff, I think the way you did it was just fine.

Scorpion515
21-04-2002, 22:12
Oh, I just thought of another tip for you guys out here:

Quit staring! Yeah, girls are guilty of it too, but at least we're not as obvious.:rolleyes:

Harrison
21-04-2002, 22:48
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
C'mon Harry, you seem like a cool dude, I don't think you need to be THAT hard on yourself:) (unless of course, its all a plot to make girls feel sorry for you;) )


Stop giving away all my secrets!!! lol

Seriously tho, I am like a nervous reck in r/l whenever i'm talking to a girl that i think might like me...

If I know they don't like me I'm cool...If I know they do like me I'm cool.......But if it's anywhere in between im doomed.

purplehaze357
21-04-2002, 23:05
Quit staring! Yeah, girls are guilty of it too, but at least we're not as obvious.


please....girls are usually way more obvious...

purplehaze357
21-04-2002, 23:06
nikki im up for a challenge...lets go...ill win though..of course :)

SPAMcutie180
21-04-2002, 23:07
OK whats your challenge?

purplehaze357
21-04-2002, 23:10
nething u can do i can do better ;)

Harrison
21-04-2002, 23:11
hmmmm, Guys are pretty obvious when they're staring...

But girls all huddle up together and stuff...then if you look at them they all scatter...

purplehaze357
21-04-2002, 23:12
hmmmm, Guys are pretty obvious when they're staring...

But girls all huddle up together and stuff...then if you look at them they all scatter...


nailed it....

SupaE_254
21-04-2002, 23:15
now that we've hurd "wut a gurl wants"...its me... SuPa_E speakin 4 the guyz...haha j/k...i'ma funny guy aren't i?...yea yea i know i'm not but o well...
4 me personally....prissy gurls r kinda annoying...a gurl like nikki is all i need...fine as h*ll, but she still knows how to get down! tom-boys r cool but u need to know when enough is enough... from wut i've hurd she knows that limit... rough n' tough but still knows how to dress...(i wanna c that skirt gurl....haha!) big ups gurl!!!!!!!!! keep doin wut cha doin...shake the hatas off and do ya thing, don't b scured!

~ej :cool: ;)

purplehaze357
21-04-2002, 23:17
nikki is definitely my kind of girl......

.....not high maintennce:)

Melissa Nute
22-04-2002, 06:22
Originally posted by Harrison
hmmmm, Guys are pretty obvious when they're staring...
Yeah, that's true... but then again girls are sortof too...

Harrison
22-04-2002, 15:55
But if you catch a girl looking she'll turn away and pretend she wasn't...lol

Judy
22-04-2002, 16:52
WOW! I go away for 4 days and this thread grows 5 pages, congrats everyone! I donno, lots to say, and yet I'm just to lazy.
My experience, robotics guys are generally pretty sweet.. and I must say, there are a lot more good looking guys than i expected.
My take on guys: I love a guy that can joke around, that can make me laugh and just be a total joker at times.. I like my guys to be good flirts. I mean, I'm a HUGE flirt and if a guy can't be affectionate and flirt around like that and such, it's just not fun. My big thing with guys and relationships is having fun, I like to be with someone that can keep me smiling, even on rough days. I mean, being a sweetheart is great, but you don't have to be incredibly sweet because most of the time if you be yourself, that's usually sweet enough. Being your self is the best thing you can do, from my observations of my friends and myself, fakeness is the biggest turn off. And much like Nikkie I'm really independent, I'll hold the door for the guy, in fact I prefer to. I mean, guys that do everything for me are repulsive. .meh! anywayz,
As for dancing, just go up and chill with another team. If one person starts going to another team, soon the other team members get out there. Also, usually a girl will say yes to a dance. I mean, unless she's busy in which case you probably wouldnt be asking her anyway. It's aton of fun to party with other teams and meet people from somewhere not like where you come from.
*sigh* I write novels when I write it seems. Well, hopefully this gives some insight.
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie

Melissa Nute
22-04-2002, 17:06
Originally posted by Harrison
But if you catch a girl looking she'll turn away and pretend she wasn't...lol
That may be true with some girls...not me though.,,

Katie Reynolds
22-04-2002, 17:46
Originally posted by purplehaze357


please....girls are usually way more obvious...

Haha! No way! I hate it when my friend and I are walking past a guy and his buddy and one whispers (loudly) to the other "Hey man, 2 o'clock, 2 o'clock look man! No, now it's 3 o'clock, now 6 - c'mon man, look!" Haha - some guys on our team were so guilty of that all last year (you know who you are!!) Geez. :rolleyes: Oh, and I agree with Nikki about the whole 'be yourself, not all mushy just cause I'm a girl' thing. But if you can be sweet and yourself without being all mushy, then that is awesome! That's definatly the way to go!

- Katie

Harrison
22-04-2002, 18:43
Originally posted by Yearbook50

That may be true with some girls...not me though.,,

Argh...Why do you live in Florida, not toronto? lol

and Judy...Now that you mention it I can't think of any bigger flirts - at least at our school.

Melissa Nute
22-04-2002, 18:54
Originally posted by Harrison


Argh...Why do you live in Florida, not toronto? lol
I dunno, bad luck I guess...

Harrison
22-04-2002, 19:48
We'll have to see what we can do about that luck...

I think it needs spinning around....

Melissa Nute
22-04-2002, 19:50
Originally posted by Harrison
We'll have to see what we can do about that luck...

I think it needs spinning around....
yes i know, and that is great...

Ben Mitchell
22-04-2002, 22:02
Originally posted by Judy
My big thing with guys and relationships is having fun, I like to be with someone that can keep me smiling, even on rough days. I mean, being a sweetheart is great, but you don't have to be incredibly sweet because most of the time if you be yourself, that's usually sweet enough. Being your self is the best thing you can do, from my observations of my friends and myself, fakeness is the biggest turn off.
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie


Wham! There's the underlying theme of everything.

BE YOURSELF!!!

(whimper...I wish i was going to the Nats...whimper)

Harrison
22-04-2002, 22:04
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
(whimper...I wish i was going to the Nats...whimper)

Big time...

*runs off crying*

Well, maybe not crying...But disappointed.

Ben Mitchell
22-04-2002, 22:09
Major dissapointment..but oh well...next year i guess, since my team is odd, but still :( <-for me


Last year in Florida, I was locked in a hotel room, and did excel until 3 AM. Next year, I'm going on a 3 day, never ending party, and am leaving the laptop HOME. I already passed the strategy torch onto others: now I am free, free at last!

Sunshine, robotics, people, (did I mention sunshine?) what more could you ask for?

Harrison
22-04-2002, 22:13
Next year for sure!

Keep the place warm for us people!

(Not that that is a prob - it is florida after all...lol)

Melissa Nute
23-04-2002, 05:55
Originally posted by Harrison
Keep the place warm for us people!

(Not that that is a prob - it is florida after all...lol)
Trust me...it will still be warm next year for ya...

PsychoPhil
23-04-2002, 16:40
i'm going down since team 343 is taking me and a girl from my team to watch since we registered too late...

But I'll see you down there next year, I'll see all these people that aren't able to go this year... And we'll have our own robot down there next year, too...
much more fun than without your team...

well, so long

Ben Mitchell
23-04-2002, 18:58
Originally posted by PsychoPhil
... And we'll have our own robot down there next year, too...
much more fun than without your team...



I dunno, being Indie may have its advantages.:D Such as NO CURFEW. 11:00 curfew is lame (thats 11 at night, not morning)

Wetzel
24-04-2002, 16:10
Wow this became a looong thread.
Brandon, is it the longest yet?

Wetzel

~~~~~~~~
Dare to dream.
I will defy gravity one day....

Ben Mitchell
24-04-2002, 16:21
I think so:D I've never seen a thread so long...well..ever!


Congrats Wetzel, you're the one who started it!:D

Wetzel
24-04-2002, 17:07
hmm...The FIRST Classifieds got to at least 7 pages...
Anyways, I'm back to not needing advice anymore.:)

Wetzel

~~~~~~~~~~
I figured it out.
You're right.
I'm wrong.
It will never happen again.

Harrison
24-04-2002, 17:30
How long it is (pages wise) depends on how you have your display settings done...

With the defaults this thread is on it's 10th page right now.

Let's keep it going......

*tries to think of more questions*

Wetzel
24-04-2002, 17:48
I've figured it out.
Chit-chat sorted by replies (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14&daysprune=30&pagenumber=1&perpage=25&sortorder=desc&sortfield=replycount)
Its the longest one that has had a reply in the past 30 days.
Chit-chat sorted by number of replies from the begining (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14&pagenumber=1&sortfield=replycount&sortorder=desc&daysprune=1000&x=5&y=9)
So 100 replys short of the record.

And it does look like Brandon is the ultimate thread killer.;)


Wetzel

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Turn the data around and you may find the answer.

Ben Mitchell
24-04-2002, 18:34
I'm glad you don't need any more advice:D

Too bad that's not the case for ALL of us!:D

Scottie2Hottie
24-04-2002, 19:27
Wetzel dont fall into the evil tempstress'(sp?) snare. We are always right! its in our genetic coding

and thus the flames from angry women begin

Wetzel
24-04-2002, 19:38
I knew this back in Febuary Scottie.
Evil is always wrong.
But this is also a good way not to pick up women.

*Name withheld* shared this with me...Jessi you may want to stop reading right here.
Ok, here is a Theroum
Women are Evil
We know
women = time x money
time = money
So
women = money x money
women = money ^2
We know that money is the root of all evil
sqrt(evil) = money
So
women = (sqrt(evil)) ^2
Simplify
women = evil



Wetzel

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mathskillz
/me dons the fireproof suit

Harrison
24-04-2002, 21:02
They are evil...Yet we cannot survive without them...go figure.

And I also think that there are no ladies left here...I think they're all soaking up the sun in florida....Kinda like I wanna be. *whine*

Ben Mitchell
24-04-2002, 21:10
You guys crack me up.

They can't be THAT evil, I know quite a few who don' t fall under the evil catagory.

Call it innocence, if you will, but I don't think women are evil. You see, they're rather important to my well-being, and continued existence :D

(and discretion is the better part of valor, after all)

dlavery
25-04-2002, 00:55
To quote Tom Arnold in True Lies: "women - you can't live with 'em, and you can't shoot 'em."

But then of course, you just have to remember to whom he used to be married to understand his perspective... :)

-dave

Harrison
25-04-2002, 10:07
Originally posted by dlavery
But then of course, you just have to remember to whom he used to be married to understand his perspective... :)

Poor poor Tom...

If she was anything like how she was on the show, I really hate to think what that marrage would of been like.

BionicAlumni
25-04-2002, 23:16
Originally posted by Team238-aholic
Hmmm picking up girls...i'm assuming at the FIRST Competition...lol....well...from my experience of being a cute girl at the competitions...hahahaha (well at least I think I am)...one year the hotel we stayed at...another team (one from arizona that will remain nameless :) ) , was staying the floor above us, and our rooms had like balconys, and as soon as we arrived, the boys tried to pick up me and my friend Melissa...lol...they were just being cute, and asking what team we were from and stuff..."Can we trade pins" type of deal....

So if your looking to pick up girls...maybe go up to them, and ask them if they want to trade pins, and make small talk...hey, i know it worked for those boys...lol! Just be yourself...girls like that....yep....good plan....

LMAO I didn't know you posted this. I don't have any clue who that team form AZ was, but I know all the guys were so %%%% hot those NH girls just couldn't stay out of the pool with em :-)

luv you tens!!

Melissa Nute
28-04-2002, 19:22
Me? Evil....never....

Harrison
28-04-2002, 19:38
Originally posted by Yearbook50
Me? Evil....never....
No....Course not... *cough*

Melissa Nute
28-04-2002, 19:40
Originally posted by Harrison

No....Course not... *cough*
*looks around innocently*

Ben Mitchell
28-04-2002, 20:22
Evil? Whose evil?

The only truly evil person I've met was a parent volunteer for my team last year. She had unchecked power, and unleashed havoc.


Other than that, I don't think I've met anyone else who was evil (wink, wink)

How was the party at the Nats. Wendsay morning, i was ready to pack myself in a crate and fly down there.

Harrison
28-04-2002, 20:24
I've heard it was crap...

There's a thread about it in the Championship Event forum.

Melissa Nute
28-04-2002, 20:32
The party was crap... oh well.
It would have been better had they played some decent music....

Amy Beth
28-04-2002, 23:23
Going back to the original subject of this thread, i have a few pointers guys, and i'm sure if you were one of the ones trying these, you know already:

4.Do not gather your male friends in a circle and shout "girls rule" when a group of chicks pass by. It sounds really gay.

3.Do not shout at american girls in portuguese. They can't understand you.

2.Do not ask a girl if she can show you the way to ford's pit so you can get one of those really cool blue necklaces.

1.Gather up all your team's noisemakers, and burn them conspicuously

Hmm....does that about cover it?

Harrison
29-04-2002, 09:45
lol

Amy, might you have had some of those things happen to you in Florida?

Ben Mitchell
29-04-2002, 12:34
Originally posted by AmyBeth330

1.Gather up all your team's noisemakers, and burn them conspicuously



At last! Someone else who understands!

All noisemakers should be banned at FIRST events, especially the "banging sticks" and 2 liter soda bottles filled with beans. Those things should be not only burnt, but have their ashes flown into the sun on a disposable rocket, so that their composite atoms may never again be used for such an evil purpose.

Also add plastic whistles to the list, especially in the hands of small children (don’t get me wrong, I like little kids) who blow the whistles constantly, without pause, for 15 minutes during the finals....grrrr..... (anyway getting back to task at hand:)

This thread really has meandered...kind of funny to watch it evolve:D Just thought I'd chip in, and try to gradually get it back on course.

I'll start with a question: Can you tell if someone is "nice" or not by looking at them. I say yes, I think the eyes give it away. If someone is evil, or cruel, the eyes look hollow. If someone is genuine and a nice person to meet and be friends with, their eyes have a different quality.

Anyone else with a similar observation?

Joe3
29-04-2002, 13:35
What's wrong with MOE sticks????

btw, we did hand out earplugs- about 3000 -to anyone who asked. So, next year, if you don't feel like listening to the noise, just come by MOE team 365's pit and grabb some earplugs, I'm fairly sure we'll have them next year.

Harrison
29-04-2002, 15:48
Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
I'll start with a question: Can you tell if someone is "nice" or not by looking at them. I say yes, I think the eyes give it away. If someone is evil, or cruel, the eyes look hollow. If someone is genuine and a nice person to meet and be friends with, their eyes have a different quality.

Anyone else with a similar observation?
You can tell to some extent I think...But I know some people who look really good, but they are really not nice or anything at all.

You can't always judge a book by it's cover.

Pamela
29-04-2002, 16:28
Sorry about those whistles...... we were thinking of just not haning them out, but we had to, no matter how annoying they ended up being.....

Amy Beth
29-04-2002, 16:36
Originally posted by Harrison
lol

Amy, might you have had some of those things happen to you in Florida?

How did you guess?

Originally posted by Joe3
What's wrong with MOE sticks????

What's wrong with Moe sticks is that they make noise. I was sitting behind Moe during opening ceremonies on Saturday and was just about to maul one of them when an angel in a green jersey handed me a pair of earplugs. Only problem with the earplugs was that i had to take them out whenever someone wanted to talk to me. I could hear people around me plainly, but apparently being encased in a bubble of silence made me speak too quietly to be understood.

Gar, i hate noisemakers.

I think you can tell a lot about people from their eyes, which is why it bothers me to an extreme when people wear sunglasses. If it's a sunny day, you can be forgiven, but indoors on a cloudy day you have absolutely no excuse for wearing dark glasses.

Amy Beth
29-04-2002, 16:39
Originally posted by Harrison
lol

Amy, might you have had some of those things happen to you in Florida?

How did you guess?

Originally posted by Joe3
What's wrong with MOE sticks????

What's wrong with Moe sticks is that they make noise. I was sitting behind Moe during opening ceremonies on Saturday and was just about to maul one of them when an angel in a green jersey handed me a pair of earplugs. Only problem with the earplugs was that i had to take them out whenever someone wanted to talk to me. I could hear people around me plainly, but apparently being encased in a bubble of silence made me speak too quietly to be understood.

Gar, i hate noisemakers.

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I'll start with a question: Can you tell if someone is "nice" or not by looking at them. I say yes, I think the eyes give it away. If someone is evil, or cruel, the eyes look hollow. If someone is genuine and a nice person to meet and be friends with, their eyes have a different quality.

Anyone else with a similar observation?
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I think you can tell a lot about people from their eyes, which is why it bothers me to an extreme when people wear sunglasses. If it's a sunny day, you can be forgiven, but indoors on a cloudy day you have absolutely no excuse for wearing dark glasses.

Ben Mitchell
29-04-2002, 17:59
Just for the record, my only only experiance this year with the <shudder> banging sticks was at the J&J Midatlantic regional: so I wasnt mentioning MOE in particular - just so I don't get anyone upset.

My own team was guilty of this crime, some parent brought in these noise sticks, . (yet another reason why parental involvment can be evil, the other is a great story from 2001)
and of course the freshmen starting hitting eachother and clapping with them, randomly.

Luckily some team was handing them out at their pits - for all rookie teams: if you want to make a lot of friends, hand out earplugs: its a sign of friendnship and comraderie that will not be forgotten!

Getting back to the point:

When people wear sunglasses or hats low over their faces indoors, I get the impression they have something to hide --not a positive effect (i guess thats one more tip)

Anyone else?

Harrison
29-04-2002, 18:11
http://www.ydlnet.d2g.com/pub/pics/harrison_webcam.jpg

Oh no! Not my sun glasses!

...Altho I only wear then if I'm driving and the sun is setting infront of me or I'm playing baseball or something...lol

Ben Mitchell
29-04-2002, 19:27
You mean you don't wear them indoors, with a tough-guy look, black leather jacket, and an attitude??

Good, that makes a good impression, i think...

Harrison
29-04-2002, 20:31
lol...actually someone wanted to see my glasses last summer...not sure why the hat was on inside...

I can't see anything if I have S/G's on inside...lol

Ben Mitchell
30-04-2002, 12:25
Another reason eyes are important: drug users and alchoholics have weird eyes - just another reason to give them a look.

I think they do tell a lot about a person, i cant quite disscribe it - call it a sixth sense, if you will, but eyes are very telling - there is much to see inside someone's eyes.

Melissa Nute
30-04-2002, 16:43
Eyes are important...there has to be some sort of connection between the two people in their eyes for me at least...

I have to agree with you ben about druggies and heavy drinkers eyes....they seem like they aren't really there...

Harrison
30-04-2002, 17:07
I agree, the eyes are important...

You would think that lots of people feel they are important, think of all those movie scenes where they show the 2 people looking deep into each others eyes...

Melissa Nute
30-04-2002, 17:11
Of course

Ben Mitchell
30-04-2002, 18:39
When lovers look into each others eyes, they are looking to see instinctively, (relax;) ladies and gentlemen ) if the others' eyes have large pupils.

It is instinctive for the eyes to attain that quality, in that.. ahem...state. Something to do with hormones:eek: and oxygen

So there is some science behind it, not just spirituality and romance.

Of course, the last two are probably the most applicable;) and who cares about science, anyway (at least in that situation)

Melissa Nute
30-04-2002, 18:53
Yeah, there is always some science behind everything. bleh...
I like your first reason....

Ben Mitchell
30-04-2002, 19:30
Yeah, that too.

To everyone out there: Don't do drugs or drink a lot, all it does is poison your mind, bury your future, and destroy any hopes you might have had. No matter how much despair and hopelessness consumes the world around you, never turn to a pill or a bottle to do what love, conviction, and a passion for life are supposed to do.

Never do drugs, look at wildflowers instead. They're much prettier, and rise from their ashes every spring. Drug use and alcoholism is just ash...no want, no love, no life, no warmth, just endless darkness, wandering for another hit, making it through a day looking for another hit just to make it through a day...it isn’t a life, it isn’t the blissful release of death. It’s a nightmare inbetween, each being denied.

I am not an addict, and never was, but I can tell you: Don't do it! You're worth too much to the world to defile yourself. Think of all the emotions: love, pride, affection, that will be gone, replaced by the lust for some chemical.

There are other things to do to pass the time, until things become better. There are people that care. I am one of them, as are many others. Don’t do it, don’t associate with people that do. They aren’t your friends if they want to put their poisons into your veins. Don’t let them.

Sorry, I got a bit swept away, but it is serious, not just a imaginary fear of an ideal world. It is a problem all of us must face, at some point.

But you don’t have to face it alone, that the idea I’m trying to say.

A great way to get girls, guys, significant others, friends, whatever, is to stay clean - in all respects.

(Sorry if that was a bit depressing)

Greg McCoy
30-04-2002, 20:30
Well said. Get high on real life instead! :)

Harrison
30-04-2002, 21:04
Here here!

Melissa Nute
30-04-2002, 21:09
I have to agree with all three of you...

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 06:26
Sorry about that rant back there, but I had a lot of momentum going and could'nt stop. :(

It is sad and unfortunate that, in one of the greatest countries on earth (canada is one of em too) we still have such problems as drug abuse, children begin beaten, wives being beaten...in an age when the future is so bright, much of society has turned their backs to fundamental trageties that occur daily, hourly, in every town and city.

In retrospect, it seems somewhat out of place, in this thread, but I guess staying clean, in body and in spirit, IS the #1 way to start any relationship...

Right??:)

Greg McCoy
01-05-2002, 15:38
I would vote for smiling/laughing for #2. Everyone likes a happy person!

Harrison
01-05-2002, 16:06
I think the best thing here is to lead by example.

Setting a good example works wonders in all sorts of things, not just drugs, etc.

Look at FIRST teams with good spirit, they set a good example for other teams, spreading the spirit.

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 16:18
Definitly, Harrison, the same reasons can be applied to all arenas, not just drugs;)

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 16:34
Yes...good examples work well in all things...
You guys are right...

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 17:28
Ak!

I think my melacholy posts have put a dismal outlook opf despair into fellow posters in this thread.

Thus, I will begin another, happy beginning, starting with this post.

Earlier in this thread, the issues of holding doors open was discussed, the answer still unclear, but I'll do it anyway out of habit;)

The main point brought up with any tip or do/do not list, was that all these things depend on the situation at hand.

Has anyone been in an incredibly weird or outragous situation involving theses sort of relationships (remember, it may not have been funny at the time, but in retrospect hiliarious) I have one really good one, but will never post it here:D

Any advice you could give, for either guy or gal, in these situations? They may be more common than you think. (I'm not seriously expecting any replies here, may be too embarrassing:eek:,esp. if you arent using a pseudonym, like me :D

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 18:57
Holding Door - Most girls like it, there are the few that don't though...

I got some funny stories with my relationships...I just am not going to tell them here.

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 19:31
Same here, I don't want any of it coming back:eek:

So...what have we got so far:


GOOD
Holding doors open
Being yourself
Being polite
Be casual
offering, but not insisting, help
not being an addict*

*Soda is ok, cafeine is marginal

BAD
Being rude
NOT holding doors open (open to debate:D )
pick up lines of almost any sort
being macho
being sterotypical
wearing sunglasses in doors

Anything I missed?

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 19:47
Another bad thing is stalking the girl...

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 19:48
Oh yes, how could i forget that:eek:

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 19:54
I really don't know...i find that quite important...

srawls
01-05-2002, 19:59
hehe, no names of course, but a girl on our team was 'stalked' by a guy on another team. i had to keep on getting her out of conversations when he talked to her. this girl is very nice, and can't be mean to a guy, but because of that he never got the hint. now she did give some hints, but ladies, us guys are stupid and we like to think even a small sign means you like us. just so i never turn out to be 'stalker' (i of course won't, this is just a conversation starter :)), if you don't like a guy, what types of hints do you give. plus, if you do like a guy, what do you do (I know ya'll said brushing up against the guy, but does anybody else do something different?)

Stephen

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 20:05
I can feel for your friend, for I was stalked to.

If the girl shows signs that she wants to leave that pit and talk to you, or she goes to your pit alot to talk, she likes ya usually.

Amy Beth
01-05-2002, 20:18
you want to know honestly how i act when i like a guy? the exact opposite of what all the other girls say. Other girls say touching, eye contact, etc...i am completely the opposite. I get shy, and awkward, can't look him in the eye. When it comes to guys, i am like a junior higher who never grew up. On the other hand, i tend to be very affectionate toward my friends (girls and guys alike!). I will smile, look them in the eye, laugh at their jokes even when they aren't funny, hug them, brush their shoulder, play with their hair (bop them :D)...
But for a lot of girls, i think the above are good indications that she likes ya. But i'm not a lot of girls...i'm just one, and mikey will confirm that i'm weird anyways.

srawls
01-05-2002, 20:22
lol, Amy ... I have to say I agree with you, though. I seem to be much more relaxed around my friends, so if I know a girl and we're just friends, it might look like we're flirting when we're not, and when I'm around a girl I don't know, well, I just do stupid things :)

Stephen

Harrison
01-05-2002, 20:56
Originally posted by srawls
when I'm around a girl I don't know, well, I just do stupid things :)

Stephen

Welcome to the club!

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 21:06
Most guys do that I noticed...it's kinda cute in a weird way...

Harrison
01-05-2002, 21:15
I'm sure all your gals get a great laugh of us struggeling oh so much infront of you...

It's depressing...well, not really...lol

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 21:18
Not a laugh, per se, an attraction sometimes...because it is like you are trying to impress us in some goofy way.. i like it at least...

srawls
01-05-2002, 21:23
well as long as you understand I guess it can't be too bad :)

Harrison
01-05-2002, 21:23
*mental note: Struggle infront of Melissa*

lol

Melissa Nute
01-05-2002, 21:36
Originally posted by Harrison
*mental note: Struggle infront of Melissa*

lol
works for me...

Ben Mitchell
01-05-2002, 22:37
They like seeing us struggle,teh?

Well, I should start selling tickets, then:D At least then, the andrenaline and nervousness will be worth $$$. not :( :( :(

I could have a different way to go out every day: the dead conversation route, the boyfriend walking up, the parents rounding the corner...i could sell out entire stadiums with un- parelled feats of messing up entirely:eek:


:D j/k :p , None of the above stuff ever really happens to me, I can get out of conversations, and get out of msot otehr situations with some fast footwork and quick talking.

Remember:

Although "faint hearts never won fair ladies",

Discretion IS the better part of valor

So just pick one and go for it: what do you have to lose? (don't answer that:D )

Harrison
01-05-2002, 22:45
No, it is probably a good thing that you don't want us to answer that...

I could definately give you a list of things that you have to lose.

Judy
01-05-2002, 22:58
The guys keep going on about how they don't understand any of the hints chicks give. I'm so obvious it's not even funny, and still nothing! One thing I would love is for the guy to actually go for it/ act on whateva... it just makes sense. I mean if a girl is totally obvious, just go for it! It really bothers me when you hear all the stories of the guy that never had the guts to tell that girl they had feelings for them and then they dwell on it for years. I think that's so dumb! I mean, go for it, again, what do you have to loose.. chances are you've already embarrased yourself around her a few times anyway! So just do it, cause I for one am sick of guys not acting on stuff, etc. Thanks.
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 06:03
Ann-Marie - I'm like you. If I like a guy, almost everyone around me knows except somehow the guy because he can't take hints....bleh
I don't see why guys just go for it more often. We won't hurt them if they ask...and usually we are quite nice even if we are turning you down.

Quain
02-05-2002, 06:46
Well... sometimes there may not be hints... a little flirting here and there... grand.. but wut if its your good friend? And what if by persuing a relationship... you find out that she dosn't like you? And then becomes weirded out by the whole situation and then you grow apart... ? Then it becomes one big mistake... and you're not as confidant anymore.. and then you can't show/tell people wut u think eh? *Shrug* personal experience...

Ben Mitchell
02-05-2002, 16:08
There's always the thought, though, that she may be toying with you, and waiting for you to mess up...

Yup, that's the #1 way to crush a man's spirit:(

'Going for it' is a big risk, and for some reason, it is vey hard to do. Much harder than bungee jumping: if that goes bad, you lose your life, if this goes bad, you lose...quite a bit of self confidence.:( That hurts, espcially if you've been saving it up for a special occasion....


(such as the Nats, or a regional:D ;) :p )

srawls
02-05-2002, 16:13
That hurts, espcially if you've been saving it up for a special occasion....


(such as the Nats, or a regional )

I know how you feel there, I was really hoping to meet a girl at nats, even just to dance with. But, alas, not many people were dancing, and the ones that were wouldn't dance with me. Oh well, there's always next year! :)

Stephen

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 16:29
Quain - To tell you the truth, I know how that is...one of my close guy friends was being extra friendly with me or so I thought, so I thought, sure maybe he wants a relationship...asked him on a date, I was rejected...we didn't talk for about four months afterwards, partly because it was way too ackward...but time heals all wounds, and we are now just a close as friends as we use to be. you and that girl should be better in time hopefully

Ben - It's also the #1 way for a girl's spirit to be crushed...

Anne George
02-05-2002, 16:42
but wut if its your good friend? And what if by persuing a relationship... you find out that she dosn't like you? And then becomes weirded out by the whole situation and then you grow apart... ? Then it becomes one big mistake... and you're not as confidant anymore..
I know that when I finally got the guts to ask one of my friends out and he said no we actually got to be better friends because of it because it was out there that I liked him as more then a friend so you have to remember that there are two sides to this sort of occasion so you are better off just going for it ;)

'Going for it' is a big risk, and for some reason, it is vey hard to do. Much harder than bungee jumping: if that goes bad, you lose your life, if this goes bad, you lose...quite a bit of self confidence. That hurts, espcially if you've been saving it up for a special occasion....
but if you dont go for it you might lose the love of your life because you are afraid to take a simple risk and that would actually be worse.......I know that i would rather have a guy come right out and ask me out rather than just acting like they like me, but being to afraid of 'going for it'...... that has happened to me and that guy has now lost his chance with me because he was to afraid to ask me out..... so take your chances well you still have them open to you....dont wait forever trying to decide if you should or not

Judy
02-05-2002, 17:07
Originally posted by Anne George


but if you dont go for it you might lose the love of your life because you are afraid to take a simple risk and that would actually be worse.......I know that i would rather have a guy come right out and ask me out rather than just acting like they like me, but being to afraid of 'going for it'......

That's exactly what I'm talking about! People that end up living their life wondering what would have happened if they had asked that chick out back in HS. I mean you do hear about it.

Now back to the whole ruined friendship thing.... Last year I had thins thing for this friend of mine. In fact, the reason why we were decent friends was cause i kinda liked him so I wanted to hang out with him and get to know him better...So we ended up working on this final project in our tech class, it was a huge presentation and the first parts of it were during this janitors strike last year, so we had to work on it outside of school...well, we went to his house twice to work on it and everything, I had so much fun, and I liked him even more... so me, not having the guts to tell him, gave his # to my best friend who told him... he turned me down and was worried that our friendship would be destroyed. Yea I was crushed, but I wasn't going to let it ruin everything, so i sucked it up and we're even better friends now.
So here's my point: It only all gets messed up if you let it, and thus, you should just go for it cause chances are, it could work out for the best...
K, this is too long already, i'm done.
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Ben Mitchell
02-05-2002, 18:15
Originally posted by Anne George

but if you dont go for it you might lose the love of your life because you are afraid to take a simple



Excellent point. Still, it is quite intimidating....

Trashed20
02-05-2002, 20:06
Originally posted by Yearbook50
Quain - To tell you the truth, I know how that is...one of my close guy friends was being extra friendly with me or so I thought, so I thought, sure maybe he wants a relationship...asked him on a date, I was rejected...we didn't talk for about four months afterwards, partly because it was way too ackward...but time heals all wounds, and we are now just a close as friends as we use to be. you and that girl should be better in time hopefully


I know exactly how you feel. same thing just happened to me two weeks ago (which happened to be the night after prom). Asked the girl out and she said she didn't like me. Now i get to sit next to her for the rest of the semester in my psychology class and we have to do an hour long presentation in 3 weeks together :) sucks alot but hey, life goes on.

Greg Perkins
02-05-2002, 20:56
Originally posted by AmyBeth330
you want to know honestly how i act when i like a guy? the exact opposite of what all the other girls say. Other girls say touching, eye contact, etc...i am completely the opposite. I get shy, and awkward, can't look him in the eye. When it comes to guys, i am like a junior higher who never grew up. On the other hand, i tend to be very affectionate toward my friends (girls and guys alike!). I will smile, look them in the eye, laugh at their jokes even when they aren't funny, hug them, brush their shoulder, play with their hair (bop them :D)...
But for a lot of girls, i think the above are good indications that she likes ya. But i'm not a lot of girls...i'm just one, and mikey will confirm that i'm weird anyways.

Hey Amy Beth, we never met in florida, i think i saw you a couple of times, although we never made conversation:( I hope we will be able to keep in touch.

email- gregsacc@juno.com
AIM- oppsie26


Greg
a.k.a. Badjokeguy

Judy
02-05-2002, 20:58
Ewww psyc ISUs... don't remind me.... read the "i need help" post thing. But as I said above about that guy last year, it's not weird if you're determined for it not to be. I don't know why everyone let's it bother them so much.. yea, it didn't work.. sometimes it's worse if you did go out b4 you figured it didn't work, trust me! I lost one of my closest friends that way... and now I hate him because of his reaction to my telling him it wouldn't work. The point is tho, I got him to say what was on his mind.. and I said yes, because I knew part of me would alwayz wonder. Yea, we sacrificed a good friendship, but I would have rather done that then wondered what would have happened if we had gone out... atleast I know now he wasn't the guy for me... at ALL!
Point being: (I've had to do this every post lately cause I ramble on) again with the whole, carpe diem thing, just do it, because you don't want to have to wonder, it would suck! So sieze the moment and go for it, because yea, sometimes it ends in heart break, but atleast you can say you didn't let your fears get the better of ya!
Oh and Trash I love that quote on your signature!
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Harrison
02-05-2002, 21:57
"Better to of loved and lost, rather than to of never loved at all"

Seems to fit...kinda...

If you try and get rejected at least you'll know.

If you never ask, you will kick yourself down the road BIG TIME for never asking - cause u will never know.

prtynpink5
02-05-2002, 21:59
OK the lames lines I heard at nationals....Well since i was selling the raffle tickets for the atari my team was raffling, some kid said haha can i give you a dollar for your phone number. Why would you pay someone for their phone number? Oh and another one was, can I get a date with you two (me and my friend) instead of a raffle ticket,...The answers to both lines were NO!

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:02
Originally posted by Harrison
If you never ask, you will kick yourself down the road BIG TIME for never asking - cause u will never know.
But then if the relationship ends, you are left wondering what would have happened if this or this happened...bleh

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:05
True...But at least you had the relationship for a bit...at least thats my point of view...

And hey, I have seen people be friends, date, and then be friends again....

I think it is definately worth the risk to try the dating.

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:12
True, Harrison...

Quain
02-05-2002, 22:13
Wow.. I must say... from the size of this thread... us teens have a lot to say on the subject of love and relationships... wonder why....??? :D

Judy
02-05-2002, 22:14
Hmm... could be it's one of the most complicated topics that affects us...
*sigh**hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:16
As John Lennon says "All You Need Is Love"

*breaks into song*

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:18
Maybe because love and relationships helps us get through our teenage years...

Quain
02-05-2002, 22:18
hahaha.... dood.. Harrison.. ur a nut dood.. and u live on this board... *Grin*

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:19
Originally posted by Harrison
As John Lennon says "All You Need Is Love"

*breaks into song*
That reminds me of Moulin Rouge.....yeah!

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:19
I must say having someone...Not even neccessarly a g/bf...help out big time.

Just a friend or someone that yuo can be completely open with about anything...Everyone needs a someone.

Quain
02-05-2002, 22:20
yea.. def.. i get wut ur sayin.. its some nice stability when things are shakey and insane.. then college rolls around.. and you remember yo wanna party.. but you gotta be nice and faithful...

Judy
02-05-2002, 22:21
Awww quain , come on we all know Harrison lives on this board cause he has a thing for yearbook...
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783
PS. Devises a way to hide from Harrison in physics tomorrow

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:22
I think it's all about the balance...You obviously need to have your fun (isnt that what college is for?...lol)

But it is nice to have someone there for you at the same time...

It also is a good feeling knowing that you are the 'special someone' for someone else...Keep ya warm in the night :)

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:23
Originally posted by Harrison
Just a friend or someone that yuo can be completely open with about anything...Everyone needs a someone.
How true that is...It really does help just being able to be completely honest with a person and not being judge bad for it...

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:25
Originally posted by Judy
Awww quain , come on we all know Harrison lives on this board cause he has a thing for yearbook...
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783
PS. Devises a way to hide from Harrison in physics tomorrow
Is that true now,... I didn't know that....:D

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:26
Ann-Marie are you trying to get me in trouble?

And I do not live here...I am on here in the evening before I go to bed usually...After baseball, hockey, school, Leaf Games...all the fun stuff. :)

Judy
02-05-2002, 22:26
I'm sure you didn't....... lol! ha! Harrison's gonna kill me first thing tomorrow morning I can see it!
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:28
Ooohhhh definately :D

Wouldn't it be unfortunate if the claw on the bot somehow grabbed your leg?

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:30
You two...behave... I don't want to see either one of you hurt...

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:31
Don't worry....You won't see it...

*evil grin*

Judy
02-05-2002, 22:31
ow ow ow! I can't even imagine. ugh... anywayz, my contacts are burning my eyes now, meaning it's time for me to study and then go to bed me thinks....
Have fun with this tonite.. and let's hope that Harrison doesnt actually kill me tomorrow.
*hugz to all as alwayz*
Ann-Marie -team 783

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:32
If Ann-Marie isn't on here anymore, none of you know what happened to her, ok? lol

See ya 2morrow Annie.

Quain
02-05-2002, 22:34
aww yearbook.. they're fighting over whether or not harrison likes you.. its almost like 4th grade... 'cept theres no skool yard... and no running in circles...

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:35
Harrison, be nice... don't hurt the girl...
we'll noticed if she never comes back...

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:38
I would never actually do anything to the poor girl...

And Quain....Hush...lol

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:39
Originally posted by Quain
aww yearbook.. they're fighting over whether or not harrison likes you.. its almost like 4th grade... 'cept theres no skool yard... and no running in circles...
then it can't be like 4th grade without those things..

Melissa Nute
02-05-2002, 22:43
Originally posted by Harrison
I would never actually do anything to the poor girl...
That is a good thing.

Harrison
02-05-2002, 22:44
Yes...

As...'insane' as I seem to be on here, I am actually somewhat normal in real life.

Melissa Nute
03-05-2002, 06:03
Originally posted by Harrison
Yes...

As...'insane' as I seem to be on here, I am actually somewhat normal in real life.
What? I could have never guessed...

Ben Mitchell
03-05-2002, 06:20
This is now officially the longest thread ever.

Melissa Nute
03-05-2002, 06:23
That is great! Yeah!

Harrison
03-05-2002, 15:43
Wooopie!