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John Gutmann
13-10-2005, 17:12
Where can get data onhow to wire a banner sensor to sense black and white?

Katie Reynolds
13-10-2005, 17:16
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35495

What information, specifically, are you looking for?

CJO
13-10-2005, 17:36
anything.
That is quite a moutful, would you care to give us some idea of what application you were thinking of using them for? Or are you interested in what applications thay can be used for.

Mike Betts
13-10-2005, 19:36
anything.

Everything. (http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/Specs/bannersensors.pdf)

Jay H 237
13-10-2005, 20:28
Here's the website to the Banner Engineering Corporation (http://www.baneng.com/). Here you will find every switch and sensor they make and info on them. The sensors included in the KOP in the past was only a "drop in the bucket" of what they offer.

Jay H 237
13-10-2005, 20:39
exactly wut i was looking for

EDIT: nwell i thought it was, but how do I hook it up for sensoing black/white

Hook what up? Which sensor are you working with?

Are you trying to sense light and dark conditions or are the wires of the switch black and white? If it's the latter, the black is your signal and the white is your voltage.............for a two wire switch.

Some may also have blue and brown wires also. If thats the case then the brown is your voltage, blue is Ov (or ground depending on installation), white is "light" condition, and black is "dark" condition.

John Gutmann
13-10-2005, 20:51
Hook what up? Which sensor are you working with?

Are you trying to sense light and dark conditions or are the wires of the switch black and white? If it's the latter, the black is your signal and the white is your voltage.............for a two wire switch.

Some may also have blue and brown wires also. If thats the case then the brown is your voltage, blue is Ov (or ground depending on installation), white is "light" condition, and black is "dark" condition.

I have the 4 wire one, please describe it better if possible, I got confused. :(

Jay H 237
13-10-2005, 21:19
I have the 4 wire one, please describe it better if possible, I got confused

OK :)

With the four wires you should have a brown one, a blue one, a black one, and a white one.

The brown one is your positive voltage.
+5V dc, +12V dc, +24V dc, as an example, depending on what the switch you're using is rated for.

The blue one is 0V.

The black wire is "dark" if it's a photo eye or "part present" if it's a proximity switch.

The white wire is "light" for a photo eye or "no part present" for a prox switch.


(FYI- I work with different Banner, Festo, and SMC switches everyday. I assemble and service robots and other automation systems for the plastic injection molding industry)

John Gutmann
13-10-2005, 21:49
what about sensing black/white?

Jay H 237
14-10-2005, 05:37
what about sensing black/white?

You're trying to sense the colors black and white?

Are you trying to use the switch as part of an "encoder" (link 1 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=299177&postcount=3), link 2 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=305732&postcount=15)) or are you trying to sense a black/white target? As in drive towards a black/white target and know the difference between the two.

You will still hook up the brown and blue as mentioned before, that won't change. Then decide between if you want to sense the white or the black color. This will decide which of the two remaining wires you will hook up to your input. You may have to experiment, depending on room lighting conditions, the distance between the sensor and the object (what the sensors rated for factors in here), and how the sensors adjusted (if adjustable) it may be able to pick up one color better than the other. You will have to switch input wires and try this out. Without really knowing what you're doing I don't see any reason to have both inputs from the switch. When it doesn't see the color you have it hooked up for it will assume the other, although this also depends on how you're programming it.

John Gutmann
17-11-2005, 17:56
do banner sensors sense a reflexive while like a reflector or the special tape, or like a piece of white of computer paper

Mark McLeod
18-11-2005, 08:33
Banner makes sensors that do either. The KoP has included different types in different years.

http://www.bannerengineering.com/products/photoelectrics/qs18/qs18_specs.php