View Full Version : Who are the "Pending Teams"?
Travis Hoffman
28-10-2005, 16:45
The new "Pending Teams" payment system FIRST has implemented makes it very difficult to know where teams have signed up for their additional regionals if those teams have yet to make their payment. I know some teams aren't planning on paying immediately and therefore won't be listed on the confirmed list for days, if not weeks. We are all left to play detective and post new threads on ChiefDelphi trying to find out this information ourselves. It seems inefficient. I understand the need for the new payment methods, but it's no fun being kept in the dark regarding the identities of the "pending teams".
Who here would like FIRST to add a feature to their website that would identify the team numbers of the "pending teams" for each regional? Is it even worth the bother? Is the community better off knowing who the pending teams are sooner rather than later? What do you all think?
JohnBoucher
28-10-2005, 16:54
I believe that it reduces "Regional Shopping" and as far as I am concerned, that is a good thing. It will lead to an interesting game of cat and mouse by teams deciding or not deciding to announce where they are going. Should be fun.
The new "Pending Teams" payment system FIRST has implemented makes it very difficult to know where teams have signed up for their additional regionals if those teams have yet to make their payment. I know some teams aren't planning on paying immediately and therefore won't be listed on the confirmed list for days, if not weeks. We are all left to play detective and post new threads on ChiefDelphi trying to find out this information ourselves. It seems inefficient. I understand the need for the new payment methods, but it's no fun being kept in the dark regarding the identities of the "pending teams".
Who here would like FIRST to add a feature to their website that would identify the team numbers of the "pending teams" for each regional? Is it even worth the bother? Is the community better off knowing who the pending teams are sooner rather than later? What do you all think?
I really wish they listed who the pending teams are.
A lot of teams look to see who else is going to a regional before they decide to go.
It really sucks to have no clue who's tentatively signed up.
I wonder if this was just an administrative oversight, or intentionally done.
slickguy2007
28-10-2005, 17:37
I really wish they listed who the pending teams are.
A lot of teams look to see who else is going to a regional before they decide to go.
It really sucks to have no clue who's tentatively signed up.
I wonder if this was just an administrative oversight, or intentionally done.
I'd imagine that the pending list changes so often that updating it would be a pain and a waste of time. I know what you mean, I wish I could see who else was thinking about going to Boston and NJ!!!
GO 1403!!!
Travis Hoffman
28-10-2005, 17:40
I'd imagine that the pending list changes so often that updating it would be a pain and a waste of time. I know what you mean, I wish I could see who else was thinking about going to Boston and NJ!!!
GO 1403!!!
My assumption was that the pending teams list would be some kind of query on FIRST's registration database. If people were required to manually generate and maintain the lists, then it's definitely not worth their trouble. But if you could click a link and have the information served up to you by a computer, then hey, I'm all for that.
I'd imagine that the pending list changes so often that updating it would be a pain and a waste of time. I know what you mean, I wish I could see who else was thinking about going to Boston and NJ!!!
GO 1403!!!
Last year we could see every team who had signed up, before they paid, so I don't see why it would be an issue this year, if they chose to display it.
I don't think it would take much programming effort to have their database automatically list team xxx when they sign up. Then again, I don't know anything about programming :)
slickguy2007
28-10-2005, 18:26
My assumption was that the pending teams list would be some kind of query on FIRST's registration database. If people were required to manually generate and maintain the lists, then it's definitely not worth their trouble. But if you could click a link and have the information served up to you by a computer, then hey, I'm all for that.
From what I understood when I talked to FIRST finance, they were doing everything manually. I do not know why they would do that, perhaps to ensure accuracy but I am not sure.
GO 1403!!!
Wayne C.
28-10-2005, 18:34
do you want this to be a "pending teams?" revelation thread?
if so --25 is pending for Las Vegas. We figure it is time to go west and play with some new friends we rarely see.
WC :cool:
Until 2 min ago, 225 was pending at NJ.
I just paid.
Only 2.5 hours away & we've never been to that regional. Looking forward to it!
Lisa T :D
Jeremy Roberts
01-11-2005, 12:56
If you take a look at the team list now it shows the pending teams in a list at the bottom of the page. http://www.usfirst.org/frc/public/
If you take a look at the team list now it shows the pending teams in a list at the bottom of the page. http://www.usfirst.org/frc/public/
RE: pending teams. Remember that Form of Payment can include a 1) check, 2) credit card, 3) official PO from a school or company or 4) a letter of commitment from a sponsor.
That's what I have been waiting for.
Travis Hoffman
01-11-2005, 13:10
If you take a look at the team list now it shows the pending teams in a list at the bottom of the page. http://www.usfirst.org/frc/public/
Jeremy - thanks for pointing this out.
FIRST - y'all rock! A big thank you from all of us who requested this information.
Mark McLeod
01-11-2005, 16:38
It seems as if as soon as a Regional is confirmed full, all the remaining pending teams are being shifted to the Waitlist and that nice list of pending teams disappears.
Travis Hoffman
01-11-2005, 16:46
It seems as if as soon as a Regional is confirmed full, all the remaining pending teams are being shifted to the Waitlist and that nice list of pending teams disappears.
I don't believe FIRST has ever made public the waitlists for events that have filled up, so I imagine they're just following standard procedures.
The new pending team list is much more useful in looking at events like Buckeye and Greater Toronto, where there are 10+ teams on each pending list, and all of them have excellent shots at receiving a confirmed spot. It's a safe bet that those teams will be at those competitions, whereas the chances of the waiting list teams attending their chosen events are much lower.
Mark McLeod
01-11-2005, 16:52
It's a safe bet that those teams will be at those competitions, whereas the chances of the waiting list teams attending their chosen events are much lower.
I agree. With the payment proceedures this year there should be no late dropouts and only the unused reserve rookie slots will free up for those on the Wait list.
Unless, like us, it takes time to get the purchase order written, submitted, approved and faxed - so much so that we got booted from the Philly regional! Now on the Wait List.
Kinda stinks...can't do much about the paperwork bureaucracy, so we get the bad end :mad:
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