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Jack Jones
14-12-2005, 16:34
I was torn as to whether to put this tidbit of info out there, but decided it's only fair to share it. Besides, if it's wrong, then you too can be as misinformed as I am.

I have it that Mabuchi has not been contacted yet to provide motors for the KOP. Since the kits get shipped this weekend, then I assume there won't be any Mabuchi motors in it.
Stu Bloom
14-12-2005, 16:37
I was torn as to whether to put this tidbit of info out there, but decided it's only fair to share it. Besides, if it's wrong, then you too can be as misinformed as I am.

I have it that Mabuchi has not been contacted yet to provide motors for the KOP. Since the kits get shipped this weekend, then I assume there won't be any Mabuchi motors in it.Care to provide a source ?? :confused:

... or at least a "credibility rating" of that information ??
Greg Needel
14-12-2005, 16:40
mabuchi was the manufacturer of the Fisher Price motors right?


I kinda find it hard to believe that first would willingly give up a motor for no reason, normally they are trying to get more for the KOP but i guess we will see in a few weeks
Billfred
14-12-2005, 16:40
Just for reference, which motors was Mabuchi behind? The only one I can remember from them was the one tiny little motor (around the size of the naked F-P) that was just shipped loose in the 2005 kit.
Jack Jones
14-12-2005, 16:48
Last year they did the little guy and the 6v Fisher Price.

EDIT// PS: Stu! You know I have no "credibility" to provide.
Tristan Lall
14-12-2005, 17:28
Both Johnson Electric and Mabuchi supply motors for Fisher-Price vehicles, sometimes interchangeably (for F-P's purposes, not necessarily for ours). It's quite possible that the F-Ps this year (if present) are all Johnsons.
Tom Bottiglieri
14-12-2005, 17:55
Maybe we won't get any motors at all!

Rotary Pneumatics, here we come!

:rolleyes:
petek
14-12-2005, 20:00
I say: Really Big rubber bands! (http://www.aerorubber.com/pallet.htm)
Jay TenBrink
14-12-2005, 21:00
I say: Really Big rubber bands! (http://www.aerorubber.com/pallet.htm)

Pete,

I'm afraid that rubber bands cannot be allowed since they could also be used as fasteners. As has been pointed out earlier, fasteners will not be allowed this year....
Elgin Clock
14-12-2005, 21:22
Well.. so no mabuchi.
I just dissected a B&D electric screw driver and (aside from the really cool inner workings) the motor in their was a Johnson electric..

I was like.. hmm.. I've seen these before.

So... if mabuchi = Johnson.. and "sources" say mabuchi is no more, the I say welcome to the Johnson Electric motors.

And, also, now I know where to get a reversible gearbox for them as well.. ;)
JVN
14-12-2005, 22:00
And, also, now I know where to get a reversible gearbox for them as well.. ;)

Johnson and Mabuchi are motor manufacturers.
They design and build motors based on specifications for a variety of products.

I.e. each has designed and built a motor for a Fisher Price power-wheels vehicle.

CIM is also a motor manufacturer. The CIM we know and love, is a slightly customized version of a motor designed for Atwood Mobile.

Just because the B-D drill uses A motor from Johnson Electric, doesn't mean it uses the same one we've received in the KOP in previous seasons.

So now you know, and remember... knowing is half the battle.
-JV
sanddrag
15-12-2005, 02:34
I wouldn't be sad to see that thing go (the small weak one, not the FP). I've never even heard of anyone using it this past year. It is only 9.4 watts, pretty weak if you ask me.
Karthik
15-12-2005, 02:48
I wouldn't be sad to see that thing go (the small weak one, not the FP). I've never even heard of anyone using it this past year. It is only 9.4 watts, pretty weak if you ask me.

Actually, at least one team used it (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=371975#post371975).

That being said, I agree. I know I won't be crying if the little Mabuchi isn't in the kit on January 7th.
coastertux
15-12-2005, 14:47
Pete,

I'm afraid that rubber bands cannot be allowed since they could also be used as fasteners. As has been pointed out earlier, fasteners will not be allowed this year....

If fasteners aren't allowed, how are we going to hold the robots together? The frame uses bolts and I would consider bolts fasteners. :b
EricH
15-12-2005, 14:55
If fasteners aren't allowed, how are we going to hold the robots together? The frame uses bolts and I would consider bolts fasteners. :b
You've never heard of welding? Or cutting a slot or space for something?
petek
15-12-2005, 15:25
If fasteners aren't allowed, how are we going to hold the robots together? The frame uses bolts and I would consider bolts fasteners. :b
It's rather simple: you start with a block of solid and remove material until you just have the robot left. Kind of like making a sandcastle. Only harder.
Elgin Clock
15-12-2005, 15:34
It's rather simple: you start with a block of solid and remove material until you just have the robot left. Kind of like making a sandcastle. Only harder.

Horray for knowing CAD, and CNC programming in the upcoming year.

Good luck people. :p

How do you fix it at competitions though??? Is welding considered a fastener? :yikes:
Alan Anderson
15-12-2005, 15:35
I'm afraid that rubber bands cannot be allowed since they could also be used as fasteners. As has been pointed out earlier, fasteners will not be allowed this year....
Doesn't the alleged rule just prohibit threaded fasteners?
Jeff Pahl
15-12-2005, 16:00
If fasteners aren't allowed, how are we going to hold the robots together? The frame uses bolts and I would consider bolts fasteners. :b

J-B Weld (http://jbweld.net/index.php)? Although I prefer this (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/manufacturing_industry/engineered_adhesives/node_GS3GRVCPWZbe/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_WHG0MWH6QPge/gvel_GVTSZT9BQQgl/theme_us_adhesivetape_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html), the elevated temp cure makes it tough to use for quick repairs in the pits :)
Andy Baker
15-12-2005, 16:32
Looks like we're going to pull out our Handlheld Ultrasonic Welder (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=134165&postcount=15). It's been collecting dust since Clark and DJ graduated.

AB
Ian Curtis
15-12-2005, 16:43
Horray for knowing CAD, and CNC programming in the upcoming year.

Good luck people. :p

How do you fix it at competitions though??? Is welding considered a fastener? :yikes:

Ah ha! I knew there was a reason a few team members got certified to use PlasmaCAM (basically a CNC machine with a torch) and to weld.
Andrew Blair
15-12-2005, 16:52
Doesn't the alleged rule just prohibit threaded fasteners?

If this does end up in the 2006 rules, CD is in trouble! These are threads, and they are what hold the community together...so CD must be a threaded fastener right?