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Billfred
01-01-2006, 01:03
Well, I'm now within a week of my third Kickoff. Both times before, I've been tied up doing other things (either work or getting on an airplane). This year, however, I'm going to do it right and be productive.
That said, how do you and your team spend the afternoon after Kickoff? Read the manual? Build the field? Plan? Sleep?
Katie Reynolds
01-01-2006, 01:26
This year (and, as I've been told, every other year) Team 857 will get together to watch the kickoff and take both Saturday afternoon and Sunday (we never meet on Sundays) off, before getting together at 6 pm on Monday to go over the rules and game.
Personally, I'll be spending "kickoff afternoon" at my boyfriend's grandparent's 50th wedding anniversary party, before packing the KOP (we're attending the Pewaukee kickoff - which takes place just a mere 2 minute drive from my house!) into my car and heading back to Houghton.
Alan Anderson
01-01-2006, 01:54
We already have four groups of students (and mentors) identified who will meet after lunch on Kickoff day. Over the next few days, each group will separately brainstorm, choose a game strategy, and come up with a basic robot design to present to the rest of the team.
We have a small group that attends the Local Kickoff, after the Kickoff that group inventories the KOP. In the afternoon the whole team has a kind of a Kickoff Party. We watch the recorded Kickoff and have pizza and stuff. After that we go over the game and identify the main points and might look at some basic strategy. The mentors and senior students have a rule that we don't want to see any robot designs the day of Kickoff. In the first week of Build we go through the game and decide on which tasks we want to try for. We then do PEW analysis on different designs for the robot and its devices to find which one would be best for us to do.
Bharat Nain
01-01-2006, 02:20
I don't know how we spend the afternoon because the next thing we know is its sunday morning. We usually have a group of talents from our team get together and discuss the game, its strategies and the robot we want to build. That's when the pizza+soda party starts.
Beth Sweet
01-01-2006, 07:09
At the Novi/Northville Michigan Kickoffs, we have always had workshops that ran until about 4 or 5 in the evening. 1504 attends those and then allows the students to go home, realizing they've already been forced to spend about 11 hours with us and that's just cruel and unusual punishment... ;)
Bill Moore
01-01-2006, 10:20
Well, I'm now within a week of my third Kickoff. Both times before, I've been tied up doing other things (either work or getting on an airplane). This year, however, I'm going to do it right and be productive.
That said, how do you and your team spend the afternoon after Kickoff? Read the manual? Build the field? Plan? Sleep?
MOE will have the full team attend to watch the kickoff, and take notes during it. After a pizza lunch, we will list what was said during the game description, not what we "heard". We will replay the game description part of the kickoff repeatedly until we capture every fact given. Once all the facts are listed, we then identify the items that are important to play the game, and rank them. We do no "robot" brainstorming on the first day; that will begin on Sunday, after people have time away to think about it. Understand the game and have a concept about what is important, then begin your brainstorming.
Concurrent to watching the kickoff, we have a small group attend a satellite kickoff to pick up our KOP, and also to get a look at the field constructed there. This group is made up mainly of Parentz/Boosterz of the Miracle Workerz. This group (non-mentors) will return after the kickoff and immediately start to build the field elements (not a "full-size" field -- we do not have enough space).
Later in the afternoon/evening, after we adjourn our meeting, a few veteran students and mentors will inventory the KOP and put it away on our shelves, ready for use.
David Hoff
01-01-2006, 10:29
Cyber Blue makes it mandatory for all team members to attend the kickoff broadcast at IUPUI. Immediately after kickoff we meet there and go over the game rules, how to score, and anything else that pertains to the game. This helps ensure that everyone on the team is 100 percent clear on all aspects of the game and that we are all on the same page. We won't meet again until Sunday afternoon when the real fun begins. At this meeting we discuss strategy. Do we want to play defense, do we want to score this way or that way. Those sort of things. At this meeting this is no talk about how the robot will do it, just what the robot will do. We will try to have a strategey finalized within that day or the next and then start figuring out how a robot can do it.
After the kickoff we'll spend an hour or two at RIT brainstorming. It's best to hit the ground running.
skimoose
01-01-2006, 11:27
Team 228 has traditionally held a pot luck supper on Saturday night, and we do some brainstorming and game analysis over the meal. After last year, (anyone who went to NH knows that it was another snowy Kickoff) we've decided to hold our dinner on Sunday this year. Last year, the 2.5 hour return trip turned into a 3.5 hour trip, and our Bengineer waited even longer to leave after Kickoff and had a tough time making it home in time for the supper. At least this way, everyone will have Saturday night to think about the game before our meeting.
Also, a BIG Thanks to KathieK and our friends at RAGE for hosting a Kickoff site so our team members that aren't going to NH can join in on the fun! :p
Can't wait to see what teams dream up for this year's game! :yikes:
Good Luck to Everyone.
(Billfred, how long do you think it will take Art04 to have a vex version of an '06 FRC bot? I see an awful lot of vex parts on the workbench!) :cool:
Being teamless, I'm helping host an unofficial kickoff in the morning for CT teams, then going home and relaxing for a while and then going to a non-FIRST-related party in the late afternoon! :D
Smrtman5
01-01-2006, 13:17
Im kind of suprized most teams dont start designing right away, but it sounds like everyone has a cool ritual.
As for our team, prior to kickoff, we tell everyone to re-read last years rules as a refresher. On the bus ride to kickoff we contemplate what the game may entail. Then, on the bus ride home from the kickoff, we brainstorm ideas and stratagies. Once we get back to school, we open the KOP and start building the field. When all that is complete we spend about a week brainstorming and drawing countless doodles on a whiteboard.
lilszek24
01-01-2006, 13:22
We all show up early saturday morning. watch the kick-off event together. and then once its over we break for lunch, after lunch we break in groups and talk strategy, then after a good afternoon of stratagizing, we break off. Either later, or the next day we come back and share all of our group ideas with everyone and have team brainstorming.
I expect that my team will wake me absurdly early Saturday morning and drag me to the remote kickoff -- then we'll head back to the lab afterward and carry on with typical meeting sorts of things, except that we'll throw some brainstorming into the mix for variety. We're in the middle of a project that is a priority, so we may actually work harder on that than we generally do on the new game for a day or two.
Ian Curtis
01-01-2006, 14:44
We don't do anything. Well, at least as a team. Each team member watches the webcast then we have our strategy meeting, complete with spinny chairs, on the following day from way to early in the morning for a weekend until after lunch.
Rafi Ahmed
01-01-2006, 17:04
Team 4's whole team is going to watch the kick-off and then spend most of saturday at our school brainstorming and we're doing the same thing on sunday.
sciencenerd
01-01-2006, 17:50
After watching the kickoff at our remote kickoff location, team 1318 goes back to our school and brainstorms on everything from design to robot construction ideas until 6:00. Generally, during this time we send random mentors on shopping trips to Home Depot/Lowes to buy different hardware for game objects or whatever.
Bcahn836
01-01-2006, 18:05
Team 836 sends a few mentors to NH and a few students parents and mentors to the local kickoff. The rest of the team goes to our electronics mentor's house and watch the live web cast, eat food, and start to analyze and dissect the game. afterwards just hang out play games, and celebrate all the great things F.I.R.S.T has given us.
Jay H 237
01-01-2006, 18:24
Two mentors from 237 drive to NH in the morning, attend the kick off and drive back home. The rest of the team on Saturday will be watching the kick off from the satellite or internet feed, some may also watch it in small groups and come up with ideas.
On Sunday we hold a potluck lunch at a local church where the students, thier parents, the mentors, teachers, engineers and others involved with the team can eat and talk about the new game. We will also show a recording of the kick off. A mock playing field (see below) of the new game has also traditionally been there also so people can get an idea of the game and try some strategies.
On Saturday, if I'm not working and I won't know that until Thursday or even Friday, then I'll watch the kick off on the internet. If I'm working then there's nothing I can do. I'll miss the kick off plus the mock field will have to wait until later Saturday.
Every year after the kick off I've built a mock field (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pictures.php?s=&action=single&picid=9189&direction=DESC&sort=date&perrow=4&trows=3&quiet=Verbose) for the team to display. I've always used the same base pieces, they just get repainted and new lines drawn if needed, but the end zones and other objects are built from scratch every year since they change. I'm normally working on it from the time the kick off ends until later on at night and then hopefully finish it in the morning before the pot luck. I will have Elgin give me a hand this year, I know he felt left out last year, plus it should get done a lot quicker and I won't have to rush the next morning.
On Sunday I will be at our potluck. Basic brainstorming will begin then but we really won't get into it until Monday.
ducttapehaxor
01-01-2006, 18:58
On Sat 1712 sends the entire team to a local kickoff site (royal assault) then we get buses back to our school and break up into groups of 3-4 to brainstorm ideas, then on Sun we take the day off allowing everyone to think individually about the various ideas, on Monday we make final decisions regarding the robot.
Rabbit222
01-01-2006, 20:36
We're sent home after watching the live broadcast at our local theater. During this time, students are advised to start brainstorming and have their ideas fresh in their minds for Sunday, the day we really start working. Of course, it is recommended to get plenty of sleep, but during build, I never sleep! ;)
Sepsis900
02-01-2006, 10:24
321 usually has any members that can show up for our remote kickoff do so. After that, we go to a few workshops and usually all leave together by 4:00. Somebody usually donates their house for the evening, where we all go and discuss the game, ways to score, our strategy, the possible strategies of other teams, and if we have time, some general characteristics of the robot. Unless the meeting is particularly inconclusive, we stick to the strategy we set down here. (arguing about design and strategy 4 weeks into the competition used to be a big problem in the past)
CourtneyB
02-01-2006, 11:24
What we do is we of course watch the kickoff, the after we talk about it and kinda of brainstorm alot of ideas. We also brainstorm the next day too...a whole lot. So the first two days are brainstorming and brainstorming, and oh yeah, brainstorming. Then after the two days of brainstorming we usually start building away and stuff..and everyone on the team has to read the rule book and all that stuff.
JamesBrown
02-01-2006, 11:39
does any one remmeber what time the actual game is usually announced (the animation is played) My managers called a mandatory staff meeting on saturday at 11 at work and I was wondering what the odds were Id be able to catch the animation before then. FIRST site says that the kickoff is from 10-12 with kits being handed out at 11 does any one know where in there the animation is, I know it is towards the end but I dont remember how close to the end.
MChapman
02-01-2006, 12:58
Team 176 as a collective team will be at Hamilton Sunstrand in Windsor Locks, CT watching the kick-off from the webcast. After that is over we go out to lunch then head to the shop. Saturday and Sunday are days of brainstorming ideas for a robot, and getting to know the game an rules a bit better. then as the week approaches we're there every night but fridays. :D
Eugenia Gabrielov
02-01-2006, 14:36
Team 461 has done this a few ways in the past.
The first option has been a Team Kickoff at the school, with a strategy and design brainstorming session immediately following. We have tried to discuss the following aspects before going into robot design specifics:
1) What do you really need to be effective in a match?
2) What things to offense, defense, etc need to focus on?
3) What should be the role of the human player?
4) What combinations of scoring give the highest output?
After we discuss these points and others regarding game objective, we sometimes break into parts. However, this year things will be done a bit differently.
Purdue FIRST is hosting a large kickoff party at the Class of 1950 lecture hall on Purdue campus. So a few teams will be there in the morning to watch. After that, teams will do seperate strategy. I will be hosting a Saturday evening dinner/brainstorming party at my house to watch the kickoff and brainstorm between members of the team. The next day we start real brainstorming stuff. That Monday there is no school for WLHS (Students from 461), so we will brainstorm then too.
Pat McCarthy
02-01-2006, 15:01
67 usually attends the local kickoff, at Novi HS (home to team 503). Afterward, individuals who wish to attend workshops do so. Generally, we take the weekend to digest the game and individually come up with what we think about the game. Then we reconvene on Monday and Tuesday to discuss the following subjects:
Breakdown what other teams will be doing during a match.
Decide, based on those results, what we want our robot to accomplish.
Sketching on an overhead projector and taking suggestions from anyone on the team, come up with the basic mechanisms to allow our robot to do what we want it to.
mikeday51
02-01-2006, 17:52
Team 1350 sends up our 3 team captains while the rest of the team watches from home. Then we get back to home base (brown university) and take inventory. Finally we go home and let our brains ferment the new challenge....
Well, as i remember, we spend a few hours (its at 3pm here...) discussing stuff. Then us older people headed down to the pub for a drink and a relaxation whilst thinking and discussing stuff...
shame i'm going to be at work until 4pm on saturday....
lukevanoort
03-01-2006, 16:47
We send a few members off to Richmond to get the KOP, usually they are selected on the merits of their trunk. The rest of the team shows up at one of the teacher's room and watches the kickoff, followed by brainstorming, then pizza, lots of pizza.
Revolverx7
03-01-2006, 17:03
The day of kickoff my whole team meets at school for breakfast and then watches the video broadcast of the kickoff. After which we go and print out all the newly unlocked documents and start to build the necessary parts to a practice field. We also break up into small groups and come up with possible robot design solutions for the new game. What a wonderful time the first few days are.
ewankoff
06-01-2006, 09:45
team 1676 is going to NJIT for the simulcast and the rest of us are watching on the nasa website but not all together. then people at NJIT are going to seminars and the rest are planning and comming with ideas for next monday
generalbrando
06-01-2006, 10:27
We have a team kick-off which is the only event of the day. Afterwards, team members are encouraged to go home, read the rules, and think on their own. We find this gives us a broader range of ideas to work from. Meanwhile, mentors do a little preparation work - taking care of ordering newly needed supplies, checking the kit, etc, etc.
karinka13
06-01-2006, 14:46
We pump sugar into Alicia and see what happens.
looneylin
06-01-2006, 23:13
yay sugar!!! it's amazing how many useless ideas i can come up with if i'm hyped on sugar. but with every 23 bad ideas.. i get one really good one. lol :D
Alex Pelan
06-01-2006, 23:17
We've never really spent a lot of time working on kickoff day, and we're continuing that this year. We're throwing in an hour or so of brainstorming before sending the majority of the kids home to read the rules, etc, then in the afternoon a select few are unpacking the kit/working on building field elements.
Peter Matteson
06-01-2006, 23:23
We've never really spent a lot of time working on kickoff day, and we're continuing that this year. We're throwing in an hour or so of brainstorming before sending the majority of the kids home to read the rules, etc, then in the afternoon a select few are unpacking the kit/working on building field elements.
And hopefully not taking a wrong turn on the way home from Manchester again. :o
henryBsick
06-01-2006, 23:30
222 watches the web cast at our local theater. (http://www.dietrichtheater.com) We think about the game and reconvene on Sunday for ideas. We finalize design on Monday and then build build build.
Lil' Lavery
07-01-2006, 09:44
Today weve rented out the lecture hall to watch the kick-off, set up a satellite to watch NASA TV, and after our mini-outreach kick-off type event, strategy discussions begin.
We get the strategy team together and we discuss, while a bunch of people build the field and other people read over every rule in the rulebook (or pretend to).
... while a bunch of people build the field ...
That would be the alumni. :cool:
Wetzel
we get wired on Bawls and work are butts off
Zero-Bee
07-01-2006, 12:49
Party at Dan's House!
Watching the broadcast on projection screen. Very cool. It has been TiVo'D, so late comers could watch it.
Simon Strauss
07-01-2006, 21:11
Its only around 11 hours into build and team 1155 has already done more designing than we had done in the first week and a half of build last year, over flowed my toilet and half the team is pissed off at my crooked ceiling. this is going to be an interesting year
Mark Pettit
08-01-2006, 03:33
Our team hosts the kickoff event at our school. We inventory our kit right away after we sign for it and then we clean up and put stuff away from the event. After that, we take a trip to a nearby pizza joint and throw our initial thoughts around just to bounce them off each other. We won't start the die-hard brainstorming until Tuesday after we have pondered the manual and the parts list.
That's the way it's been for the last 3 years.
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