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Jay Trzaskos
06-02-2006, 14:10
How about FLR 2006? Standard FF scoring applies.
20....1st seed
12....2nd and 3rd seed
6......4th through 8th
3......9th through 12th
2......12th through 16th
4......Quarter finalists
10.....Semifinalists
20.....Finalists
30.....Winners
42.....Chairmans
36.....Engineering Inspiration Award
15.....Rookie All-Star
10.....Rooke Inspiration
8......Woodie Flowers
2......Win(s)
-2.....Loss(es)
1......Tie(s)
8.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
5....... Judges Award
2.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
This is my first time running a FF league so Billfred, Ed, Corey... I may need some help :rolleyes: . 30 teams competing (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/index.lasso?page=event_teamlist&event=ROC), 3 teams each, ten players. Let it begin.
1)Jay Trzaskos
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I'm in - Cornell Code Red all the way!!!
Ian Curtis
06-02-2006, 14:44
Like there was even a question. ;)
Alex Cormier
06-02-2006, 15:45
:ahh: :p :]
Tim Delles
06-02-2006, 16:01
Im in.
Greg Needel
06-02-2006, 16:27
Come now my friends...you just need to start listing me when you post these fantasy FIRST things.
Uh since I INVENTED FF I better be an automatic invitee to my own home regional! Grrrrrrr... :p
Jay Trzaskos
07-02-2006, 18:33
1)Koko Ed
2)Greg Needel
3)Jay Trzaskos
4)Dan Swando
5)Ian Curtis
6)Tim Delles
7)Ale Cormier? was that some sort of code for "oo oo choose me"?
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9)
10)
JamesBrown
13-02-2006, 10:16
I am in
Alex Cormier
13-02-2006, 10:57
is FLR that disapointing, or just a poor turn out to this FF. im surprised.
Freddy Schurr
13-02-2006, 11:28
1)Koko Ed
2)Greg Needel
3)Jay Trzaskos
4)Dan Swando
5)Ian Curtis
6)Tim Delles
7)Ale Cormier? was that some sort of code for "oo oo choose me"?
8)Freddy204
9)JamesBrown
10)
I am so in!
Alex Cormier
13-02-2006, 11:33
1) Jay Trzaskos
2) Dan Swando
3) Ian Curtis
4) Alex Cormier
5) Tim Delles
6) Greg Needel
7) Ed Patterson
8) James Brown
9) Fred
10) oo fill me in....
Jay Trzaskos
13-02-2006, 16:00
awesome, we will probabley draft next weekend. PM me if this doesn't work for you. I'll post a drafting order sometime soon.
JT
Alex Cormier
13-02-2006, 16:02
awesome, we will probabley draft next weekend. PM me if this doesn't work for you. I'll post a drafting order sometime soon.
JT
umm, it would be nice to have a full list of people, not 9. if ya actually read the post above.
Conor Ryan
13-02-2006, 16:49
If you feel like an 11th man, I'll play
Greg Needel
13-02-2006, 16:51
OK the field is set
1) Jay Trzaskos
2) Dan Swando
3) Ian Curtis
4) Alex Cormier
5) Tim Delles
6) Greg Needel
7) Ed Patterson
8) James Brown
9) Freddy204
10) Ryan Connor
Jay Trzaskos
13-02-2006, 22:38
Thanks Greg. See Alex, this is why wee like Greg better than you.
JT
Freddy Schurr
13-02-2006, 23:18
Can't wait
Jay Trzaskos
17-02-2006, 21:59
Herw is the draft order guys, let me know about a good time to draft.
1) Conor Ryan
2) Jay Trzaskos
3) Ian Curtis
4) Greg Needel
5) Dan Swando
6) Ed Patterson
7) Freddy204
8) James Brown
9) Alex Cormier
10) Tim Delles
1) Freddy204
2) Greg Needel
3) James Brown
4) Tim Delles
5) Jay Trzaskos
6) Conor Ryan
7) Ed Patterson
8) Dan Swando
9) Ian Curtis
10) Alex Cormier
1) Ian Curtis
2) Alex Cormier
3) Ed Patterson
4) Dan Swando
5) Freddy204
6) Greg Needel
7) James Brown
8) Tim Delles
9) Jay Trzaskos
10) Conor Ryan
Something tells me my random number generator isn't that great, sorry Alex.
JT
229
Conor Ryan
17-02-2006, 22:11
Herw is the draft order guys, let me know about a good time to draft.
Something tells me my random number generator isn't that great, sorry Alex.
JT
229
I dunno about you guys but I don't have any problems with the random generator.;) Anyone for starting this draft now?
Jay Trzaskos
17-02-2006, 22:18
let's give it at least a couple of days, i need to get rid of this headache... and research the competition.
let's give it at least a couple of days, i need to get rid of this headache... and research the competition.
WHat would it hurt if Conor picked early?
It's best to get an early jump anyways so you won't have such a crush during the actual draft.
Conor Ryan
17-02-2006, 22:53
Ok might as well start off the unrestricted Draft, so pick whenever its your turn and you feel like it. Lets try to get this draft over by Ship date.
I'll take 188 Woburn Robotics
Jay Trzaskos
17-02-2006, 22:59
I have to go with teh green and gold. 229 for me. I believe this is a FF first for me, getting my own team in a draft.
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........
4) Greg Needel......
5) Dan Swando......
6) Ed Patterson.....
7) Freddy204........
8) James Brown.....
9) Alex Cormier......
10) Tim Delles........
Okay the official draft starts at 8pm on Wednesday. But I am with Conor, let's get this done before ship if possible.
JT
Ian Curtis
17-02-2006, 23:29
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191 (X-O X-Cat)
4) Greg Needel......
5) Dan Swando......
6) Ed Patterson.....
7) Freddy204........
8) James Brown.....
9) Alex Cormier......
10) Tim Delles........
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191 (X-Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaatt?!?!)
4) Greg Needel......
5) Dan Swando......
6) Ed Patterson.....
7) Freddy204........
8) James Brown.....
9) Alex Cormier......
10) Tim Delles........
It's not X-WhAAAt!!!
It's X-O X-Cat
Greg Needel
18-02-2006, 08:38
i want 1511
Freddy Schurr
18-02-2006, 09:29
I want Team 211
Tim Delles
18-02-2006, 12:32
Freddy why are you picking outta order, Ed should be before you pick. I don't see an ammount of time given for each of us to pick or when our time is to pick. Also why are all 3 rounds random. Doesn't FF normally go first round random, second round is the reverse of the first, and then 3rd round random?
O well Jays random generator just hates me.
Tim Delles
18-02-2006, 12:33
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson.....
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown.....
9) Alex Cormier......
10) Tim Delles........
I want team 340 G.R.R. Robotics.
Alex Cormier
18-02-2006, 12:49
Freddy why are you picking outta order, Ed should be before you pick. I don't see an ammount of time given for each of us to pick or when our time is to pick. Also why are all 3 rounds random. Doesn't FF normally go first round random, second round is the reverse of the first, and then 3rd round random?
O well Jays random generator just hates me.
that is how normal people do it. and i feel your pain with this total generator crap. :p
JamesBrown
18-02-2006, 17:01
Ill take team 84
Alex Cormier
18-02-2006, 17:19
The second team of the winning alliance has not yet been picked? well since 229 is taking i'll take the second partner. 1126!
Tim Delles
18-02-2006, 17:22
I will finish the round with team 250.
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
Alex Cormier
18-02-2006, 17:29
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204
2) Greg Needel
3) James Brown
4) Tim Delles
5) Jay Trzaskos
6) Conor Ryan
7) Ed Patterson
8) Dan Swando
9) Ian Curtis
10) Alex Cormier
Freddy Schurr
18-02-2006, 18:11
145
Greg Needel
18-02-2006, 18:38
578
JamesBrown
19-02-2006, 00:15
271
Conor Ryan
19-02-2006, 00:59
On the random generator crap..yes though I'm a tad biased and lucky I'm not so sure if it sorted out as it should have but I guess if its ok with all of you guys, FF 2006 Finger Lakes Regional will not count towards any cumulative awards (FF player of the year, ect.)
Oh, I did some checking, and it turns out that Tim, not Alex has the worst draft seeding of everyone. Though Alex is only behind by 1 point.
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles.........
5) Jay Trzaskos.....
6) Conor Ryan.......
7) Ed Patterson.....
8) Dan Swando......
9) Ian Curtis.........
10) Alex Cormier...
Tim Delles
19-02-2006, 01:21
Well i really can't believe this team hasn't been picked. My pick in the 2nd round is 1507.
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....
6) Conor Ryan.......
7) Ed Patterson.....
8) Dan Swando......
9) Ian Curtis.........
10) Alex Cormier...
Jay Trzaskos
19-02-2006, 01:28
Hey guys, I have apologized before and I will again... sorry about the drafting, this is the first FF I have run and wasn't sure how the drafting was done. I guess I should have done more research, we can go back and change it around if you want. I don't really care. But, if not I will choose 772.
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....772
6) Conor Ryan.......
7) Ed Patterson.....
8) Dan Swando......
9) Ian Curtis.........
10) Alex Cormier....
Conor Ryan
19-02-2006, 12:20
well i think I'll take......378-Delphi Thermal/UAW 686 & Newfane High School
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....772
6) Conor Ryan.......378
7) Ed Patterson.....
8) Dan Swando......
9) Ian Curtis.........
10) Alex Cormier....
Gimmie 1567 tha Shock-a-bots!
Alex Cormier
19-02-2006, 23:54
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....772
6) Conor Ryan.......378
7) Ed Patterson.....1567
8) Dan Swando......
9) Ian Curtis.........
10) Alex Cormier....
Teams not taken:
467, 1405, 1450, 1518, 1531, 1551, 1559, 1585, 1591, 1713, 1765, 1901, 1930
Ian Curtis
21-02-2006, 00:02
Dan, that was not nice! Taking the Duct Tape Bandits right out from under my feet. Ah well... 1559 it is then.
Conor Ryan
21-02-2006, 19:09
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....772
6) Conor Ryan.......378
7) Ed Patterson.....1567
8) Dan Swando......467
9) Ian Curtis.........1559
10) Alex Cormier....
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........
2) Alex Cormier....
3) Ed Patterson....
4) Dan Swando.....
5) Freddy204.......
6) Greg Needel.....
7) James Brown...
8) Tim Delles.......
9) Jay Trzaskos...
10) Conor Ryan...
Still Available (like me):
1405, 1450, 1518, 1531, 1551, 1585, 1591, 1713, 1765, 1901, 1930
Jay Trzaskos
21-02-2006, 21:09
Okay... the official draft starts tomorrow at 8pm est. Alex will have the first pick and everyone will have 10 minutes to pick. so we will be done by 10 pm tomorrow night. Trade deadline is next Wednesday at 8pm est.
JT
Alex Cormier
22-02-2006, 15:37
well the team i wanted was taken right b4 me. so i must adapt now! and now with the long wait i will pick team....
ROUND ONE
1) Conor Ryan....... 188
2) Jay Trzaskos..... 229
3) Ian Curtis.........191
4) Greg Needel...... 1511
5) Dan Swando...... 639
6) Ed Patterson..... 340
7) Freddy204........ 211
8) James Brown..... 84
9) Alex Cormier...... 1126
10) Tim Delles........ 250
ROUND TWO
1) Freddy204.........145
2) Greg Needel.......578
3) James Brown.....271
4) Tim Delles......... 1507
5) Jay Trzaskos.....772
6) Conor Ryan.......378
7) Ed Patterson.....1567
8) Dan Swando......467
9) Ian Curtis.........1559
10) Alex Cormier....1930
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........
2) Alex Cormier....
3) Ed Patterson....
4) Dan Swando.....
5) Freddy204.......
6) Greg Needel.....
7) James Brown...
8) Tim Delles.......
9) Jay Trzaskos...
10) Conor Ryan...
Still Available:
1405, 1450, 1518, 1531, 1551, 1585, 1591, 1713, 1765, 1901
Freddy Schurr
22-02-2006, 16:26
R we starting over or something. Just curious because I think that it is fine.
Greg Needel
22-02-2006, 16:31
R we starting over or something. Just curious because I think that it is fine.
no we are just regulating the time for picks now...since the comps are getting close we can't afford to wait till people get arround to picking. rounds 1 and 2 are done all we need to do is round 3
Conor Ryan
22-02-2006, 16:58
yeah we are not starting over, we just got a head start, so we don't have to keep badgering each other for picks. Anywho heres the Order draft times for everyone to finish out. If someone picks in turn, just early, the person behind them gets until their scheduled dead line to pick.
To make it simple, just pick in your turn, by your scheduled time.
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........8:00
2) Alex Cormier....8:10
3) Ed Patterson....8:20
4) Dan Swando.....8:30
5) Freddy204.......8:40
6) Greg Needel.....8:50
7) James Brown...9:00
8) Tim Delles.......9:10
9) Jay Trzaskos...9:20
10) Conor Ryan...9:30
End of Draft.
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Conor Ryan
22-02-2006, 20:14
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Yeah..your on the clock Ed, the missing guys can pick when they show up
Yeah..your on the clock Ed, the missing guys can pick when they show up
In that case I'll take 1591.
Conor Ryan
22-02-2006, 20:19
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....when ready
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....8:30
5) Freddy204.......8:40
6) Greg Needel.....8:50
7) James Brown...9:00
8) Tim Delles.......9:10
9) Jay Trzaskos...9:20
10) Conor Ryan...9:30
Freddy Schurr
22-02-2006, 20:31
Can I have a list of what teams are still left over? Thanks
Conor Ryan
22-02-2006, 20:37
1405, 1450, 1518, 1531, 1551, 1585, 1713, 1765, 1901
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....when ready
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......8:40
6) Greg Needel.....8:50
7) James Brown...9:00
8) Tim Delles.......9:10
9) Jay Trzaskos...9:20
10) Conor Ryan...9:30
Freddy Schurr
22-02-2006, 20:40
I want Team 1450, XQ-RobotiX
Conor Ryan
22-02-2006, 21:22
My instincts tell me to go with 1551- Zoetek Medical Equipment Repair, Inc/Otis Eastern Service, Inc./Pace Window and Door Corp./Skill Glass Inc. of Honeoye/Crosman Corporation/Wende Young, Brenda Keith, Priscilla and Dennis Crawford, Stephanie and Stephen Marshall, John and Janice Murphy, Jane Sage, Michael and Laura Jackson, Malcolm and Drury MacKenzie/James R. Moore Memorial VFW Post #8726 and Women's Auxiliary/Anonymous & Naples Central School
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....when ready
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....when ready
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......when ready
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1405, 1518, 1531, 1585, 1765, 1901
Tim Delles
22-02-2006, 21:24
To round out my Alliance i will take team 1901.
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....when ready
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....when ready
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1405, 1518, 1531, 1585, 1765
Alex Cormier
23-02-2006, 00:36
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....1765 - YES! that's 2 rookies and the winner! muhahha!
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....when ready
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1405, 1518, 1531, 1585
Greg Needel
23-02-2006, 09:01
Well since i helped them out in 2004 i figure I should go back with team 1405 the Finney Falcons. Btw are there any rules about going to regionals and specifically helping the teams you have for FF?
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....1765
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....1405
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1518, 1531, 1585
Btw are there any rules about going to regionals and specifically helping the teams you have for FF?
Yeah, Be GP and help them win :).
I pick 1585 (sorry, fell asleep yesterday).
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....1765
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....1585
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....1405
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1518, 1531
Ian Curtis
23-02-2006, 15:04
Sorry guys, I had stuff going on. I'll take 1518.
Well since i helped them out in 2004 i figure I should go back with team 1405 the Finney Falcons. Btw are there any rules about going to regionals and specifically helping the teams you have for FF?
Round Three
1) Ian Curtis........when ready
2) Alex Cormier....1765
3) Ed Patterson....1591
4) Dan Swando.....when ready
5) Freddy204.......1450
6) Greg Needel.....1405
7) James Brown...when ready
8) Tim Delles.......1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...1713
10) Conor Ryan...1551
Still Left:
1518, 1531, 1585
Have you heard anything from them?
Alex Cormier
23-02-2006, 16:31
2006 FLR FF Picks
1) Ian Curtis.......191......1559.....1518
2) Alex Cormier....1126....1930.....1765
3) Ed Patterson...340......1567.....1591
4) Dan Swando....639......467......1585
5) Freddy204......211......145......1450
6) Greg Needel....1511.....578......1405
7) James Brown....84.......271.....1531
8) Tim Delles.......250......1507....1901
9) Jay Trzaskos...229......772......1713
10) Conor Ryan...188.......378.....1551
Freddy Schurr
25-02-2006, 23:17
Who thinks that they have a good alliance!
Who thinks that they have a good alliance!
Hard to tell.
Alot of unknowns in this regional and they won't be known til practice day and who knows maybe not even then.
Alex Cormier
25-02-2006, 23:55
I know i have the best alliance and then Greg with Conor Ryan in a close third.
I know i have the best alliance and then Greg with Conor Ryan in a close third.
So you seen RH's bot as well as the other rookie team?
Alex Cormier
26-02-2006, 00:08
So you seen RH's bot as well as the other rookie team?
nope, i see my aliance like this:
Winners (1126)
Rookie All-Star or Inpiration (1930 and 1765)
Conor Ryan
26-02-2006, 00:09
I need too watch 1511 some more and just see how good Greg's chances are. Alex has some points looking good in the rookies, but he's not the only person with rookies, not to mention we need to see how good 1126 is, and they usually are good. I love my picks, and Koko and Jay also look like they have a good shot also.
Should we add a bonus if all 3 of someone's picks end up on the same alliance during playoffs?
Jay Trzaskos
26-02-2006, 08:24
Seeing as this isn't counting in the FFL final tallies we can do that. Any ideas on a number of points? I was thinking around 50ish.
Tim Delles
26-02-2006, 15:43
Yo why is this not counting in the FF final tallies?
I think it's a good bet that I got this one in the bag.
Jay Trzaskos
12-03-2006, 21:21
1) Ed Patterson...340......1567.....1591 = 116
2) Alex Cormier....1126....1930.....1765 = 82
3) Ian Curtis.......191......1559.....1518 = 76
4) Jay Trzaskos...229......772......1713 = 67
5) Greg Needel....1511.....578......1405 = 66
6) Tim Delles.......250......1507....1901 = 57
6) Conor Ryan.....188.......378.....1551 = 57
7) Dan Swando....639......467......1585 = 20
8) James Brown....84.......271.....1531 = 14
9) Freddy204......211......145......1450 = 6
Congratulations Koko Ed.
(Anyone that wants to can check the numbers for me again :) )
Alex Cormier
12-03-2006, 21:23
GRRR. Nice match Ed!
HUZZAH!!!http://boards.buffalobills.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/giggity.gif
Greg Needel
12-03-2006, 23:19
good show old man....but lets see what happens over the full season league :D
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