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groves
03-03-2006, 22:35
http://www2.usfirst.org/2006comp/Events/NJ/matches.html

I am very happy with this years game! I do not feel that the penalties are out of proportion. Above are the mach results for the New Jersey Regional. I am a little disappointed in what I'm seeing. Keep in mind these numbers are based on 55 matches!

* 18 matches that have had single digit scores.
* match #25 Teams 1563, 1412, 555, 1367, 896 and 293 all recieved zero points!
* Teams recieved zero points 9 times!
* 17 matches could have been won by all three teams climbing the ramp!

How is it possible for three robots to spend 2 minutes not moving a single ball into the low goals? or why can't any of these teams get up the ramp? What are they doing during autonomous?


If this game continues to score so low, teams should consider different strategies (I.E. get on the ramp, push balls to side goals, or do something during autonomous.)

This in no way is a hit against the game! This game was made for high scores!

Tomasz Bania
03-03-2006, 22:37
I toatally agree with you, but than again you have to remember this is the FIRST week of competitions!

Jon K.
03-03-2006, 23:24
I toatally agree with you, but than again you have to remember this is the FIRST week of competitions!
Not only that, but a lot of teams are still getting used to off sides penalties. That would explain a majority of the zeroes I am sure.

Alekat
04-03-2006, 00:42
Not only that, but a lot of teams are still getting used to off sides penalties. That would explain a majority of the zeroes I am sure.

I saw no off sides at the Pacific Northwest regional. And I saw most of the matches. The only penalites ive seen drawn is penetration into the corner goals.

Kevin Ray
04-03-2006, 01:19
As with every year, teams playing in the first week's regionals are at a disadvantage the first day. They don't have the luxury to benefit from watching other matches and adjusting strategies. I'm sure you'll see a whole different series of scores tomorrow.

That being said, I do have to wonder why strategies haven't been adjusted from the morning to the afternoon. I just watched all of the VA. regional matches on Team SOAP's site (they deserve Lifetime Achievement Award from FIRST for their archives). There were similar "gaps strategy implementation" shall we say.





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Petey
04-03-2006, 01:28
http://www2.usfirst.org/2006comp/Events/NJ/matches.html



This in no way is a hit against the game! This game was made for high scores!

It was made for high scores if you could aim for the center goal.

As I've said before, my impression from the BAE GSR is that only about 5 teams mastered the scoring of the game. Everyone else, by the scores, seems to get maybe a couple balls in the side and then just head for the ramp.

Loads of bots are tipping over.

It isn't a strategy to adjust to, I think. It's an technological incapability--or at least inconsistency--on part of most of the teams. Aside from 138, 1276, 296, and a few others, most teams at BAE GSR today couldn't do anything consistently...

And does anyone else see a ton of offsides penalties being called?

--Petey