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Warren Boudreau
17-04-2006, 14:27
Here is my question.

How does FIRST figure out which division champions play each other in the first round of the Championship?

In 2005, it was Curie v Galileo in SF 1 and Archimedes v Newton in SF 2.
In 2004, it was Newton v Galileo in SF 1 and Curie v Archimedes in SF 2.

Joe Ross
17-04-2006, 14:58
In 2003, it was Galileo v Archimedes in SF 1 and Newton v Curie in SF 2.
In 2002, it was Galileo v Einstein in SF 1 and Curie v Archimedes in SF 2.

My team had the same question about how that was determined.

I'll post it to the Q/A if no one else knows.

George A.
17-04-2006, 15:17
I think it's how the fields are set up in the arena...don't hold me to that but last year if you were facing Einstein, Newton and Galileo were to the left, they played each other, and Achimedes and Cure were to the right, and they played each other...so I think that's how it is, I'm not 100% on that though.

Tom Bottiglieri
17-04-2006, 15:19
I think it's how the fields are set up in the arena...don't hold me to that but last year if you were facing Einstein, Newton and Galileo were to the left, they played each other, and Achimedes and Cure were to the right, and they played each other...so I think that's how it is, I'm not 100% on that though.
The fields have been arranged like that since at least 2003.

Joel J
17-04-2006, 15:21
In the manual it says, Division A vs. Division B, and Division C vs. Division D. As the teams were placed in to divisions in the order, Galileo, Archimedes, Curie, Newton, I'll make a guess and say it will be:

Galileo vs. Archimedes and Curie vs. Newton

In 2005, teams were ordered as follows: Archimedes, Curie, Newton, Galileo. We had Curie vs. Galileo.
In 2004, teams were ordered as follows: Newton, Galileo, Archimedes, Curie. We had Newton vs. Galileo.
In 2003, teams were ordered as follows: Curie, Newton, Galileo, Archimedes. We had Archimedes vs. Galileo.

In 2006, teams were ordered into divisions as follows: Galileo, Archimedes, Curie, Newton. Following the pattern established with the previous years, it seems it would be: Galileo vs. Curie and Archimedes vs. Newton.

I guess I don't know either.

Warren Boudreau
17-04-2006, 16:17
In '04, '05, and '06, the teams were assigned to the divisions in the order of Galileo, Archimedes, Curie, and Newton (GACN). At least according to the FIRST team lists.

Yet, the semi-final matchups in '04 and '05 were different.

Still no definitive answer. :confused:

The Lucas
17-04-2006, 17:34
The pit map (http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2006/site_info/GWCC_Pit_Map.pdf) is the same as last year. That is the first time that has happened since I have been in FIRST (2001). We were always moving sites (Disney, Houston, GWCC Building A, GWCC Building C) or realigning divisions (Newton -> Einstein). Maybe the semi-final match ups will be the same.

JackN
17-04-2006, 18:38
Galileo vs. Curie

This would mean that conceivably the first match could be 494 vs 70

Joe Ross
17-04-2006, 18:40
In '04, '05, and '06, the teams were assigned to the divisions in the order of Galileo, Archimedes, Curie, and Newton (GACN). At least according to the FIRST team lists.

There is a bug in the FIRST database and the team lists show the '06 teams no matter what year you are looking at. I beleive Joel's ordering is correct.

Warren Boudreau
18-04-2006, 12:09
Yeah, you're right Joe.

Sorry about that.

Gary Dillard
18-04-2006, 17:02
I'll post it to the Q/A if no one else knows.
I just posted it in case you hadn't already done so

Joe Ross
20-04-2006, 11:03
I just posted it in case you hadn't already done so

I also posted, but it doesn't look like either of our questions have been approved.

Billfred
24-04-2006, 20:23
Success, courtesy of 330!

Per http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?p=1992#post1992, it'll be Archimedes vs. Curie, then Galileo vs. Newton.

JackN
24-04-2006, 21:46
That means if the Heavens open up and luck runs wild and 1902's team flys then either the two Martians :rolleyes: or two aliances with triplets :eek: