2007 Boilermaker Regional!!!

[Goober!!!]

Well why not start talking about this FUN and EXCITING Regional since there are other Regional Threads started! :D :D :D

So first off who is planing to go???

[ebmonon36]

1018 has registered! I'm looking forward to an exciting (as always) regional, and I can't wait to compete with whatever beautiful creation you guys (1501) come up with!
Eric

[Jeff K.]

Team 1138 is coming, all the way from California.
It's funny this year, all of the regionals we are attending are back to back: LA, Boilermaker, and possibly San Diego.

[Qbranch]

Well why not start talking about this FUN and EXCITING Regional since there are other Regional Threads started! :D :D :D

So first off who is planing to go???

1024 sure is going to go. Just got our registration confirmation back 2 days ago. See you there goober!

-Q

[Dan Petrovic]

Some of us are thinking about coming.

We haven't voted yet, but yeah...

[Jherbie53]

Team 85 had a blast, or at least I did, last year and is returning. Goober, I hope your team is just as good, no wait, Better than you were last year. Because its not as much fun unless there are some challenging teams there. (cough) Techno Kats (cough)

[Goober!!!]

Team 85 had a blast, or at least I did, last year and is returning. Goober, I hope your team is just as good, no wait, Better than you were last year. Because its not as much fun unless there are some challenging teams there. (cough) Techno Kats (cough)

Yeah I can't wait to go against you guys again. Because you guys were tough to go against!!! :D :D :D

[Taylor]

1529 will be there with bells on. Looking forward to seeing you all.

[Luckyfish05]

Count PantherTech In

[Dan Petrovic]

166 voted to go to Boilermaker today!

So unless something happens and it fills up before we get a chance to register, we'll be there!

I can't wait.

[Goober!!!]

Here is the list of the 2007 Boilermaker Regional(So far)

45, 85, 135, 166, 292, 573, 868, 878, 931, 1018, 1023, 1024, 1138, 1319, 1501, 1529, 1555, 1720, 1730, 1737, 1741, 1760, 1856, 1872, 1985, 1990, 2015, 2081, 2160, 2171

I would like some info on the teams going just to see how all of you guys done

of course I'm from 1501 and lat year at BMR we were finalist and won the "driving tomorrow's technology award" and that all that we have done. And for all of the new teams that are coming this year its a ton of fun. And a big challenge. Can't wait!!! :D :D :D

[Dan Petrovic]

There were 4 spaces yesterday. I checked minutes ago and then it's full!

It's a good thing we took care of it a week ago.

166 seems to have on and off years. Every other year we build a good robot that's very competitive, and then in between those years we build robots that... aren't very good.

This upcoming it is the year for 166 to do well. So watch out :D

[Bill_Hancoc]

Well team 573 is going and this is our first year going, we chose this one over WMR so it better be good.

[Kyle Love]

As a semi-almost-wise man Lil' Jon once said, "Lets GO!" Do you even have to ask if 45 will be there?

[Richard Wallace]

There were 4 spaces yesterday. I checked minutes ago and then it's full!Perpetual Chaos will come to Boilermaker for the first time in 2007. We're looking forward to some great competition.

And who knew that I-70 runs in both directions? Six Indiana teams (45, 292, 461, 829, 1646, and 1747) will be at our home regional (http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/index.lasso?page=event_teamlist&event=MO). :D

[Dan Petrovic]

Perpetual Chaos will come to Boilermaker for the first time in 2007. We're looking forward to some great competition.

I remember seeing you guys at the Buckeye regional in 2005.

I'm so looking forward to seeing everyone there!

I can't wait! :D

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

I plan to attend, considering I live there, if my Final examinations are over in time for me to get home that weekend.

[efoote868]

868 is looking forward to do Boilermaker!!!
good luck everyone!

[roboticsguy1988]

ah yes the all so famous boilermaker. Looking forward to it this year. I think i will get involved in some of the extra stuff this year rather than just going back to the hotel room.

Does anyone know the hotels they are staying at? We usually go to the same one, which i can't remember which one it is, maybe goober can spread some ligt on that.

I was thinking if we are in the same hotel with some other teams maybe get some games going, wether its a console, card, or board game.

[Eric W. Jones]

1646 will be coming across the Wabash for Boilermaker. Se ya'll there!

[Dan Petrovic]

I was thinking if we are in the same hotel with some other teams maybe get some games going, wether its a console, card, or board game.

That'd be great.

I'm sure we'll have a couple of X Boxes linked up with Halo or something and we might be able to get a Playstation 2 (or two) over with some Guitar Hero.

[Goober!!!]

1646 will be coming across the Wabash for Boilermaker. Se ya'll there!

Hey Eric are you sure you guys are going because on the team list 1646 isn't on there and neither are the other Lafayette teams, which is quit strange?

[IndySam]

It’s official. The Digital Goats will be returning to Boilermaker!

[Eric W. Jones]

Hey Eric are you sure you guys are going because on the team list 1646 isn't on there and neither are the other Lafayette teams, which is quit strange?

I don't know anything about that. We should be signed up... I'll go check.

:ahh: were not listed! that's odd. We're meeting this evening. I'll ask about it then.

461 (West Lafayette) and 1747 (Harrison) are listed, though, so I don't know what's going on.

[Goober!!!]

I don't know anything about that. We should be signed up... I'll go check.

:ahh: were not listed! that's odd. We're meeting this evening. I'll ask about it then.

461 (West Lafayette) and 1747 (Harrison) are listed, though, so I don't know what's going on.

Well I hope to see you guys with the rest of the Lafayette teams, because you guys are fantastic!!! :D :D :D

[Goober!!!]

Well looks like 1646 will be there and now there are 38 teams on the list (for now). Looks like the armory is going to be compacted with people this year!!! :D :D :D

[Dan Petrovic]

Well looks like 1646 will be there and now there are 38 teams on the list (for now). Looks like the armory is going to be compacted with people this year!!! :D :D :D

Yeah. It's going to be packed with teams. There are a couple teams from out of the area, as well.

166 from New Hampshire :D
878 from North Dakota
1138 from Californa
1319 from South Carolina
and 1872 from Puerto Rico!

[Richard Wallace]

Yeah. It's going to be packed with teams. There are a couple teams from out of the area, as well.

166 from New Hampshire :D
878 from North Dakota
1138 from Californa
1319 from South Carolina
and 1872 from Puerto Rico!I guess you'd count the four MO teams (931, 1730, 1737, 1985) as being from the Boilermaker area?

We'll take it as a complement to be grouped with the Midwesterners from IN, MI, OH, IL. :)

[IndySam]

Right now there are 38 teams

21 from Indiana
6 from Michigan
4 from Missouri
and one each from NH, ND, CA, OH IL and Puerto Rico.

[Eric W. Jones]

Right now there are 38 teams

21 from Indiana
6 from Michigan
4 from Missouri
and one each from NH, ND, CA, OH IL and Puerto Rico.

It's always exciting to see teams from out of the continental US. I hope they like the weather...::o

[Taylor]

It's always exciting to see teams from out of the continental US. I hope they like the weather...::o

It's Indiana. If they don't like the weather, just wait 24 hours and it will change to something completely different.

[Jherbie53]

It's Indiana. If they don't like the weather, just wait 24 hours and it will change to something completely different.

If its like Michigan, you just drive 5 more miles to change the weather.

[Eric W. Jones]

It's Indiana. If they don't like the weather, just wait 24 hours and it will change to something completely different.

That's what I meant:p

[Taylor]

Anybody know what happened to 461? They were listed as attending BMR; in the past week they've been taken off. Giving up homefield advantage?
Good luck to them at St. Louis - help represent Indiana teams well and show 'em in MO how to Boiler Up!

If in fact they're not attending the BMR, we'll have to do a "Let's all go nuts" chant in their honor.

Other sad news - 2006 BMR champ 1272 is taking the year off - we'll miss them & look forward to competing with them in 2008.

[Richard Wallace]

Anybody know what happened to 461? They've been taken off the BMR team list anymore. Giving up homefield advantage?
Good luck to them at St. Louis - show 'em in MO how to Boiler Up!

If in fact they're not attending the BMR, we'll have to do a "Let's all go nuts" chant in their honor.There are two teams pending for Boilermaker; is 461 one of them?

We are looking forward to seeing 461 and several other Indiana teams in St. Louis. I expect they will raise the level of competition.

And some MO teams are coming to Boilermaker, too. I have a feeling this is going to be a really good year.:)

[Richard Wallace]

There may be errors on the FRC site. [EDIT: Or maybe 461 is just waiting until the deadline (http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/content.aspx?id=454) to send their money to FIRST? Maybe Team history events includes those for which a team is pending.]

Checking 461 team history (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teaminfo&team=461) shows they are registered for St. Louis, Boilermaker, and the Championship. The Boilermaker list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=IN) doesn't include 461 now, and neither does the Championship list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP). But they do appear on the St. Louis list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=MO).

[Eric W. Jones]

Now 1646 is no longer on the team list.:confused:

Apparently we had some problems getting our submission in on time, something or other wrong with some server or other. I'm so confused...

[AmyPrib]

There are 3 teams pending for Boilermaker. 461 and 1646 are two of them. Per the rules, a team is pending until payment is received.

[robochick1319]

I am so delighted to say that 1319 will be returning to the Boilermaker Regional! :)

It was one of my favorite regionals (even though it was freezing!)

The people were nice and friendly! The Dodgeball Tournament was the best team social event ever!

I just want to say that I can't wait to drive 13 hours for another awesome regional and I can't wait to see everyone there!! :p

[yoshi1319]

I see Team 1319 on there, So I'm guessing that we're PLANNING to go. Gotta do a little Fundraising though ^^;; Annnd. It'll be awesome becasue if we do go, It'll be on my Birthday! ^_^ ((March 16)) The big 1-6 Baby! ((Just so y'all know)) Oh! And good luck Everyone that's going!

**Edit** I see she posted something already saying we're going. lol. Woo! Can't Wait then! ^_^

-Nick ((1319 Flash))

[Wayne Doenges]

Team 1501 wil definitely be there. There is nothing that can keep us away.
Well, maybe a major snow storm :ahh:

Will someone who is on the Boilermaker regional planning board please contact me off list. My e-mail is: rcwarthog@comcast.net

Thanks

[AmyPrib]

Hay all,
If you are attending BMR, student or adult, please go to our website and register for your name badge. If you are planning to attend the social activities after the dinner Friday, it will be required.

http://first.purdue.org/boilermakerregional/

Since we have gotten several inquiries so far, we are in fact planning to host campus and facility tours as we have in the past. Details are not yet finalized, but hope to be soon.

Thanks,

[RedHeadRobotics]

Team 2081 is registered and ready to go!!!!

Hope to see you all there

[Curt Henderson]

So with the robots shipped and the attending team list pretty much complete, what is this regional going to be known as...... a ringer based or lifter based competition? Let hear some strategies!


With our strategy being an end game lifter, should the majority of the teams be doing the same, the importance of each lift will become critcal. It will make each lift so important for score ratings.

[efoote868]

We'll be using St. Louis as a practice to BMR, so by then we should be fine tuned and primed to go.

Our strategy is solely placing tubes. We'll be the team to get up your ramp. :)

[Taylor]

Indy rampees unite! We also will be driving upon our alliance partners after two minutes of ringer-placing excitement.

[Deep Dark]

team 537 will be attending.

good luck and hope to see you all there!

[Armando Gonzalez]

Team 1872 from Puerto Rico, we are going to start swimming next friday. :yikes:

[IndySam]

Indy rampees unite! We also will be driving upon our alliance partners after two minutes of ringer-placing excitement.

We will se if we keep our ramps or not after St. Louis.

[Andy Baker]

We will se if we keep our ramps or not after St. Louis.


You guys are gonna need those ramps... 45 is another tube-bot. No ramps here.

AB

[Goober!!!]

it looks so far that BMR is going to be an arm regional!!!:D :D :D

good for 1501!!!;)

[Qbranch]

1024... if you've seen, has an elevator mounted manipulator with several degrees of freedom, capable of scoring on all three levels and changing the orientation of the tube within its gripper. It can also remove tubes from the rack. Nice speedy drivetrain too... software's coming along so multi-mode autonomous as well.

Depending on how many helium baloons we can find (or how good we get at carbon fiber n such), one or two full width ramps.... :rolleyes:

Pics without the bumpers on: Mast Up (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/7c0/7c0c17172312deea1b2df48e4ab77bd9_l.jpg) Mast Down Shot (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/4b9/4b91b5527598041a6a727ac8be35cd87_l.jpg)

-q

[IndySam]

You guys are gonna need those ramps... 45 is another tube-bot. No ramps here.

AB

well then depending on how things go we may ditch the manipulator and extend the ramps. Those build windows may be fun. :yikes:

[Protronie]

At first when I saw the other pics I thought that gripper might have been too large to be any good but with a tube that gripper doesn't look so oversize.
I like the idea of using the wheels on the end of the fingers... shouldn't have to worry much about popping a tube.

Wish you guys were coming to Palmetto Regional in South Carolina... would like to see that gripper in action.

Well Good Luck and Have FUN! :cool:



1024... if you've seen, has an elevator mounted manipulator with several degrees of freedom, capable of scoring on all three levels and changing the orientation of the tube within its gripper. It can also remove tubes from the rack. Nice speedy drivetrain too... software's coming along so multi-mode autonomous as well.

Depending on how many helium baloons we can find (or how good we get at carbon fiber n such), one or two full width ramps.... :rolleyes:

Pics without the bumpers on: Mast Up (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/7c0/7c0c17172312deea1b2df48e4ab77bd9_l.jpg) Mast Down Shot (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/4b9/4b91b5527598041a6a727ac8be35cd87_l.jpg)

-q

[Scott Ritchie]

234 is all arm. No ramps here. We may be scoreing tubes till the end in a lot of matches.

I like your reverse engineering in the middle of a thread 829.

[KTorak]

1023 will be attending, for the first time ever! As you can tell by my signature, we have been performing very well over the years and we hope that this year will be our best! We are really confident about our robot and its abilities, as well as tons of support we have from sponsors, parents, mentors, and students. However, we will see how it goes after GLR.

Our robot can score 5-6+ tubes per match (this was unobstructed practice with ideal conditions). We can also hold 1, quite possibly 2 (depending on design) robots onto our ramps.

[Wayne Doenges]

Will someone from teams 1760, 1856, 1918, 2081, 2171 and 2277 please contact me at rcwarthog@comcast.net
NE1 who knows these team please ask them to contact me.

Thx :)

[darsh5000]

Just to clear things up, Team 461 is attending the boilermaker regional; why wouldnt we be, its our home regional...

There may be errors on the FRC site. [EDIT: Or maybe 461 is just waiting until the deadline (http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/content.aspx?id=454) to send their money to FIRST? Maybe Team history events includes those for which a team is pending.]

Checking 461 team history (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teaminfo&team=461) shows they are registered for St. Louis, Boilermaker, and the Championship. The Boilermaker list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=IN) doesn't include 461 now, and neither does the Championship list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP). But they do appear on the St. Louis list (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=MO).

[Taylor]

It wouldn't be the same without you.

[fluffy]

141 is coming and were bringing our low, middle and high tube scoring robot and ramps for a table of two :)

[Andy Baker]

You guys are gonna need those ramps... 45 is another tube-bot. No ramps here.
AB

Heh... we definitely got to know those ramps in St. Louis, as we got on them in 6 out of 6 matches in the finals.

Kudos to the Digital Goats! The rest of you have to check out this ingenious design, that 829 has put together. I really didn't understand this cam lifting mechanism until I saw it lift our robot. See you at the Armory!

Andy B.

[IndySam]

Heh... we definitely got to know those ramps in St. Louis, as we got on them in 6 out of 6 matches in the finals.

Kudos to the Digital Goats! The rest of you have to check out this ingenious design, that 829 has put together. I really didn't understand this cam lifting mechanism until I saw it lift our robot. See you at the Armory!

Andy B.

All through the qualifying matches we never had two robots in our alliance capable of climbing a ramp, even one that was only 18 degrees like ours. I was wondering if our design was ever going to get a chance to be tested in battle. When you and 1444 climbed our ramp in that first quarter final match and our robot wouldn’t move, my heart sank. In the video you can see me looking down at the wheels to see if they were turning (and trying to figure out how to blame the AM transmissions for the failure) when the guy from IFI came over and reset our controller and up she went! I almost jumped out of my shoes I was so happy.

Thanks for finally showing that we weren’t crazy.

[Mr.D]

Heh... we definitely got to know those ramps in St. Louis, as we got on them in 6 out of 6 matches in the finals.

Kudos to the Digital Goats! The rest of you have to check out this ingenious design, that 829 has put together. I really didn't understand this cam lifting mechanism until I saw it lift our robot. See you at the Armory!

Andy B.

I have picture on the homepage of our website with 45 and 1444 on us and the referees measuring before giving the Peace sign.

[ALIBI]

Hello to all that are attending the Boilermaker. I believe this will be the WOBOT's (Team 141) maiden voyage to the Boilermaker and we are wondering what to expect. Sounds like in years past this has proven to be fun place to be when the robots take stage. Good luck to all and we are looking forward to making new friends! We had a great time at IRI last year and from the looks of the team list many of the same teams will here. Only a couple more days before we pack the bus!

[Mark Pierce]

I believe this will be the WOBOT's (Team 141) maiden voyage to the Boilermaker and we are wondering what to expect.Based on our experience, you can expect a great event. As with all regionals, you'll see great teams and have a lot of fun.

Like IRI, you'll find one of the best group of volunteers anywhere making the event run smoothly. Maybe they just don't let us see them sweat, but they seem to have more fun putting it on than the participants.

Last year the competition was great. With the help of some awesome alliance partners we brought home our first gold in five years! I hope we get a chance to repeat that performance. :)

[Taylor]

I gotta say, last year the Wobots (141) was one of my favorite teams from West Michigan. Looking forward to seeing what you've come up with for this year's competition.

[Courtneyb1023]

I have never been to Boilermaker Regional or Purdue University and I’m really really looking forward to a great competition!!!

court

[fluffy]

I gotta say, last year the Wobots (141) was one of my favorite teams from West Michigan. Looking forward to seeing what you've come up with for this year's competition.

thanks!

heres an inventor drawing that i created of this years wobot:)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27536
hope it'll be another favorite;)

[AmyPrib]

Hello to all that are attending the Boilermaker. I believe this will be the WOBOT's (Team 141) maiden voyage to the Boilermaker and we are wondering what to expect. Sounds like in years past this has proven to be fun place to be when the robots take stage. Good luck to all and we are looking forward to making new friends! We had a great time at IRI last year and from the looks of the team list many of the same teams will here. Only a couple more days before we pack the bus!

You can check out our website if you want to see some of the things going on.
http://first.purdue.org/boilermakerregional

We'll have some campus and facility tours, a great team social dinner, social activities in the rec center, a ton of great teams to compete with, scholarships to give out, awesome awards ceremonies, awesome volunteers, practice field, a building packed with lots of excitement and cheering, high energy, concessions which I can say are cheaper than most places, and... hmm.. what else.. hopefully everyone will have a fabulous time! I'm not biased or anything though.. :)

Look forward to seeing everyone there!!
Thanks,

[Elyse Holguin]

Like always, I'm in town because I stayed here for Spring Break and I have a very comfy futon for any ladies who are roadtripping and don't want to pay for a hotel room. I'm 5 minutes to the armory walking since I'm a RA in one of the lovely Purdue dorms.

[Ninjitsu Banana]

As one of the home teams for BMR, let me tell all you that I'm psyched about this regional. West Laf may not have too many tourist-y things, but we have the most restaurants per capita in the US!

[Richard Wallace]

... West Laf may not have too many tourist-y things, but we have the most restaurants per capita in the US!That is very good news. :D

[IndySam]

Oh man it’s almost here!

Boilermaker is looking tough with 3 regional champs, 1 runner up, 4 quarter finalist and 2 semi finalists coming to town and 7 seven other teams with one regional under their belts.

I can’t wait to see 1501 and 85’s amazing looking lifters in action, the lollypop licking the competition and a bunch of quality Indiana and Michigan teams in their first contest of the year.

Can anyone imagine how much better 45 will be after another week with their practice bot?

With teams from as far away as California, Puerto Rico and New Hampshire this is shaping up to be the best Boilermaker ever.

Oh and look our for the revised Goat grabber!


Edit: Major apologies to team 166

[Dan Petrovic]

Oh man it’s almost here!

Boilermaker is looking tough with 3 regional champs, 1 runner up, 4 quarter finalist and 2 semi finalists coming to town and 7 seven other teams with one regional under their belts.

I can’t wait to see 1501 and 85’s amazing looking lifters in action, the lollypop licking the competition and a bunch of quality Indiana and Michigan teams in their first contest of the year.

Can anyone imagine how much better 45 will be after another week with their practice bot?

With teams from as far away as California and Puerto Rico this is shaping up to be the best Boilermaker ever.

Oh and look our for the revised Goat grabber!

Nothing about New Hampshire? :(

:cool:

[Richard Wallace]

Nothing about New Hampshire? :( Looks like the Chop Shop (166) will be representing NH solo at Boilermaker. Not surprising -- it is a long road trip, about 1000 miles.

Congratulations on the Judge's Award and on seeding in the top third at Manchester. No match results are up on the FIRST site; how did your team fare in the eliminations?

[Dan Petrovic]

Looks like the Chop Shop (161) will be representing NH solo at Boilermaker. Not surprising -- it is a long road trip, about 1000 miles.

Congratulations on the Judge's Award and on seeding in the top third at Manchester. No match results are up on the FIRST site; how did your team fare in the eliminations?

Thanks :D

We are actually flying. So... yeah. About 4 hours between when we leave and land. There's a layover in Detroit.

And we weren't in the top 3. 1st was 501, 2nd was 175, and 3rd was 1519.

And... we weren't picked for the eliminations... we were, however, the alternate and got some nice seats in front of the field :D

It will also be nice seeing teams that we saw in Cleveland two years ago. I specifically remember 135 and 931.

[Protronie]

Does anyone have any plans of broadcasting / webcasting the event?

[Kyle Love]

Anyone up for a little bit of Racking n' Rolling? 45 will be there bright and early tomorrow morning. WOO HOO for Krispy Kremes!

[Ricky Q.]

Does anyone have any plans of broadcasting / webcasting the event?

The regional will be webcast, providing that Greg and I can get it set up tomorrow.

http://first.purdue.org/boilermakerregional/

[Protronie]

The regional will be webcast, providing that Greg and I can get it set up tomorrow.

http://first.purdue.org/boilermakerregional/

Thank you, thank you, thank you! :D

[Richard Wallace]

Anyone up for a little bit of Racking n' Rolling? 45 will be there bright and early tomorrow morning. WOO HOO for Krispy Kremes!KK is on the way from my hotel. I'll be in bright and early, with a couple of boxes. FIRST come, first served.

Watch out for the St. Louis teams this year.:D

[Courtneyb1023]

I'm leaving Michigan after work so I can be there for opening ceremonies tomorrow! I’m sooo excited!

[Greg McCoy]

The webcast is up!

http://video.first.purdue.edu

Open up that URL in Windows Media Player. If you are using an older version of Media Player, you might have to use http://video.first.purdue.edu:80.

Let me know how it looks :]

[Protronie]

The webcast is up!

Let me know how it looks :]

Well first off thanks for getting it up... I like the different angle of your shot... but... video quality is only fair, setting kinda bright, hard to see anything without opening the control panel and and turning the brightness down.
Sound slightly muddled too.
I'm sure there will be many complaints about not looking at the field from the 50 yard line (middle point). I actually kinda like seeing the field from behind the operators point of view.

Now the sponsors logos.... grrrr. I know, I know they paying the bills but still... grrr. Thank you sponsors and Greg for making this happen. :cool:

Good luck to all there.

PS this what it looked like after adjusting for brightness...

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ASC27407/video.jpg

[Greg McCoy]

This is the same video feed that's going up on the main screen...expect more action shots tomorrow.

[Protronie]

So how are the teams doing with inspections and last minute builds/repairs?
Got things to do tomorrow so I'll miss most of the action, sat not looking so great either :(

[Ed Coleman]

I woke up this morning and thought to myself, "Wow, I really get to wake up and go to another regional. Isn't this awesome?" I would say people who don't get involved in FIRST just don't know what they are missing. But that is ok because we know. Hope everyone is ready for another rockin' day at Purdue. See you all there.

[Mark Pierce]

I'll admit to being in mental fog and being very focussed on getting our robot running better, but here's a quick report for those not here... (I can't believe nobody else has posted.)

There's a large range of readiness and operability and a lot going on in almost everyone's pit area. There are some impressive teams and a lot of energy here. Most teams are happy with how things are going. From the reports of our scouting team, I'd say this will be a step up from what I saw in Arizona last week, if for no better reason than there are a few more teams (including BOB :) ).

Good luck to all the teams today. Let's have some fun!

[Protronie]

I'll admit to being in mental fog and being very focussed on getting our robot running better, but here's a quick report for those not here... (I can't believe nobody else has posted.)


Thanks Mark... glad someone remember us stuck at home ;)
I'll be watching as much as I can.

Hey Greg, webcast pics a lot better today... still a tad too bright but with a slight adjustment on my end it looks good.
Thanks again for doing the webcast! :D

[fluffy]

anyone know how to axcess sundial?

[IndySam]

Glad they fixed the match algorithm.

We don’t have a single match with alliance partner with a number lower than ours :confused:

[The Lucas]

Glad they fixed the match algorithm.

We don’t have a single match with alliance partner with a number lower than ours :confused:

Looks like you are one of the highest numbers in pool A (the lowest 1/3 of team numbers). The pooling system the scheduler seems to intentionally use is explained here (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=594617&postcount=175)

[Tito H.]

Elimination Round Alliances

1st – 1730 – 234 – 1555
2nd – 1501 – 45 – 1024
3rd – 1720 – 85 – 1856
4th – 868 – 573 – 141
5th – 1189 – 931 – 166
6th – 1737 – 1985 – 1319
7th – 1023 – 1747 – 461
8th – 1872 – 829 – 554

[Ricky Q.]

Bracket is posted:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27764?

[Rich Ross]

Any reason why the webcast doesn't seem to be working?

[Tito H.]

Elimination Round Alliances

1st – 1730 – 234 – 1555
2nd – 1501 – 45 – 1024
3rd – 1720 – 85 – 1856
4th – 868 – 573 – 141
5th – 1189 – 931 – 166 (sub 1990) (1189 went down in SF1-1)
6th – 1737 – 1985 – 1319
7th – 1023 – 1747 – 461
8th – 1872 – 829 – 554

Qtr1-1 - 1vs8 – 1wins
Qtr2-1 - 4vs5 – 5wins
Qtr3-1 - 2vs7 – 7wins
Qtr4-1 – 3vs6 – 6wins

Qtr1-2 - 1vs8 – 1wins (1 advance)
Qtr2-2 - 4vs5 – 4wins
Qtr3-2 - 2vs7 – 7wins (7 advance)
Qtr4-2 – 3vs6 – 6wins (6 advance)

Qtr2-3 – 4vs5 – 5wins (5 advance)

SF1-1 – 1vs5 – 1wins
SF2-1 – 6vs7 – 6wins

SF1-2 – 1vs2 – 1wins (1 advance to Finals)
SF2-2 – 6vs7 – 7wins

SF2-3 – 6vs7

[Ricky Q.]

Going to a third match in SF 2

461 1023 1747 v 1319 1737 1985

[Tito H.]

Elimination Round Alliances

1st – 1730 – 234 – 1555
2nd – 1501 – 45 – 1024
3rd – 1720 – 85 – 1856
4th – 868 – 573 – 141
5th – 1189 – 931 – 166 (sub 1990) (1189 went down in SF1-1)
6th – 1737 – 1985 – 1319
7th – 1023 – 1747 – 461
8th – 1872 – 829 – 554

Qtr1-1 - 1vs8 – 1wins
Qtr2-1 - 4vs5 – 5wins
Qtr3-1 - 2vs7 – 7wins
Qtr4-1 – 3vs6 – 6wins

Qtr1-2 - 1vs8 – 1wins (1 advance)
Qtr2-2 - 4vs5 – 4wins
Qtr3-2 - 2vs7 – 7wins (7 advance)
Qtr4-2 – 3vs6 – 6wins (6 advance)

Qtr2-3 – 4vs5 – 5wins (5 advance)

SF1-1 – 1vs5 – 1wins
SF2-1 – 6vs7 – 6wins

SF1-2 – 1vs2 – 1wins (1 advance to Finals)
SF2-2 – 6vs7 – 7wins

SF2-3 – 6vs7 – 7wins

Finals-1 – 1vs7 – 1wins
Finals-2 – 1vs7 – 7wins
Finals-3 – 1vs7 – 1wins

Congratulations to 1730 – 234 – 1555 (the #1 seed) for winning the Boilermaker Regional

[jtdowney]

Congratulations to team 234 (Cyber Blue) on winning chairmans award.

[meatmanek]

I would encourage people to post videos of any matches they have onto google videos or youtube.

I'll be working with people on my team to get ours posted.

[Luckyfish05]

WOW, what a fun regional. I'm exhausted. My voice is gone. The competition was amazing, and a lot of fun. We (292) didn't get picked for the elm. rounds, but we still had fun chearing for the teams there. I really had fun with my hometown hometeams there (292, 45, 1760) and then my "new" hometown teams there (85, 141, 2015) there were very few matches that I wasn't cheering.
Congradulations CyberBlue for winning the chairman's award! With our pit next to yours its very obvious that you guys are very deserving of the award!
Also congradulations to 1730,234,1555 for winning this crazy awesome regional I can't wait to see you at nationals.

There were a couple things that stood out to me. The first being that the competition was close. There were a few stand outs, but for the most part everyone was really competitive against each other. So thanks teams for making the competition interesting and fun to watch! Secondly, having the awards in the elliot music hall there at Purdue is a great thing. Not only because we have chairs with backs again, but I think it makes it feel more special. Next, the social was a perfect end of our teams day, getting to hang out with people from other teams. Lastly, Great job regional committee. At least from our angle in the stands, it looked flawless. No match restarts either that I can remember, which is pretty awesome!
Thanks guys for making another Boilermaker Regional so great! I'm so happy to be able to make the trip back to it every year. The team's ready to head to the Championships, and I'm ready to head to the next regional, all of us with much excitement! I'm going to stop writing now before I write a novel :D

[cgredalertcc]

I have to say that in comparisson to the regional in Wisconsin 1741 recently attended the Boilermaker referees allowed teams to be much much more agressive and it seemed like some of the defensive teams were driving at a near malicious level. We came out of several matches with the bottom forks of our gripper bent at inconcievable angles due to some of the rough driving. In talking with several teams at the regional we felt that activley pushing a robot when it's manipulator is in a vulnerable postion is not truely in the spirit of first and we avoided doing so. In the eliminations one team tipped two of the opposite alliances robots (completely flipping one and putting another in a situation where they would have tipped without the quick action of their third partner). The team that did this left the match without even a yellow card or a penalty. Also during the finals I spoke with a referee regarding the starting condition of a robot and how that fell within the rules, because of one rule regarding the postion of the robot controller in regard to the starting postion of the robot which says the the lights on the robot controller must be visible from three feet in front of the robot in starting condition in which the front of the robot is determined by the dimension facing out of the alliance home zone. All in all the regional was a good experience but I feel like it could have been better. I am extremely happy for 234 who is pretty much the reason for my team's existence. I love robotics and the situations mentioned above are purely observations in hopes to improve everyone's regional experience.

[KTorak]

First, let me post a huge disclaimer that this is not a post about whining about how the outcome was.

However, I think overall that Boilermaker was a really fun and well planned event. But, I do not agree with how game play was. I feel that the audience was really unfortunate NOT to see scoring. During the finals, no tubes were scored. However, at GLR, it was a pure offense event. In the elims, there were tons of tubes placed making the outcome totally unpredictable. I think the elims in Atlanta will be much like GLR. But as I said, the event was a lot of fun and me team enjoyed it.

[cooker52]

Once more, congrats to the winning teams 1730, 1555, and 234, especially 234 for the Chairmen's Award. Today was awesome. All I can say to others is Lift This!!! We (Team 1501) had an awesome time today and even lifted technically 2.5 robots!!!(In my opinion, it was 3) On of the other alliance's robots fell on our wing, yet the team 45 got on all the same without any problems. I was even surprised. One of my favorite teams that we played with today was the rookie team 1990. The defended like crazy and hoped on our wings without any second thought. My only regrets of today are that I couldn't watch many of the teams play, but from what I heard in our pits durring the time between matches, it was an incredible regional. Everyone was yelling and standing. For this being my first year, I am planning on comming to each of our regionals here in Indiana every year. Even when I am in college.

P.S. I am having trouble getting pictures up. I will try again.

[Kyle Love]

First, let me post a huge disclaimer that this is not a post about whining about how the outcome was.

However, I think overall that Boilermaker was a really fun and well planned event. But, I do not agree with how game play was. I feel that the audience was really unfortunate NOT to see scoring. During the finals, no tubes were scored. However, at GLR, it was a pure offense event. In the elims, there were tons of tubes placed making the outcome totally unpredictable. But as I said, the event was a lot of fun and me team enjoyed it.

You can't control/predict strategies of other teams during finals. To me, the audience seemed very into the game play. Also, the outcome from the finals were unpredictable at BMR also, not knowing if all of 461's ramps would deploy, or if 1555 would be able to get theirs up in time and if all the robots could get up.

[Dan Petrovic]

I must say, this competition was wicked awesome. :D

This afternoon made me so happy to be from New England.

There's nothing quite like chanting "wicked awesome" and getting your awesome alliance partners (1189 and 931) to do the same.

I feel that our team was welcomed by everyone else. We got many compliments from volunteers saying that we are one of their favorite teams... ever. It feels so nice to hear that from someone after walking into a regional of strangers.

We had people asking for our "Wicked Awesome" t-shirts. We had extras and we gave them all out. We traded shirts with alliance parters (and I am currently wearing team 1189's shirt).

If anyone notices a sudden rise in the use of the word "wicked", please tell me. This would be outstanding news after wearing "Wicked Awesome" shirts, chanting "wicked awesome" and replying with "Team 166 thinks it would be wicked awesome to play with you guys" after being selected for the elimination rounds.

Also! We don't normally get a team social. GSR doesn't have one. This has definately the best I've seen. It totally beats the Atlanta after party.

More people referred to us as "Chop Shop" than "166". So many people congratulated us and applauded us. This has been an incredible experience.

[Jherbie53]

All I can say to others is Lift This!!! We (Team 1501) had an awesome time today and even lifted technically 2.5 robots!!!(In my opinion, it was 3) On of the other alliance's robots fell on our wing, yet the team 45 got on all the same without any problems. I was even surprised.

Here's a pic after the match of 1501 lifting (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27778?) 45 and 1990.

[Curt Henderson]

Here's a pic after the match of 1501 lifting (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27778?) 45 and 1990.

Here is the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWh4F_3jjk

P.S.: Sorry about the yelling you'll hear ...... it was a bit wild of a moment.

[kramarczyk]

I have to say that in comparisson to the regional in Wisconsin 1741 recently attended the Boilermaker referees allowed teams to be much much more agressive and it seemed like some of the defensive teams were driving at a near malicious level...
In the eliminations one team tipped two of the opposite alliances robots (completely flipping one and putting another in a situation where they would have tipped without the quick action of their third partner). The team that did this left the match without even a yellow card or a penalty. The tipping in both of the referenced cases was due to entanglement with the rack. The bot that completely flipped tangled in the rack which lifted it's wheels and, in the refs words, "drove up" the defensive bot resulting in it's turn-over. The second case was similar. Offensive bot tangled in the rack and got pushed into a tipping position. The defensive bot did back off once they realized the offensive bot was helpless, but it did take them too long to realize it. They did receive a verbal warning from the head ref at the end of the match.

I also can't let this match go with mentioning the phenominal alliance play that got the second bot out of the rack and back into the game... wicked awesome.

[Chris Fultz]

It is a fine line between "agressive play" and "overly agressive play" and tough to call. This is a reall challenge for the referees.

We got hit so hard in one match that the schock stopped the RC and we were disabled for about the last minute. No wires pulled, not lost connections - the RC just stopped. That is a brutal hit. IFI has only seen it happen 2 or 3 times.

We were havily defended, which is good because it means we were a threat for scoring and that is a part of the game. I am all for defense, pushing and shoving and blocking, but the hard hits from across the field cross the line.

Luckily, we survived the hits, but i know some other teams that were basically taken out of the competition after being crashed into by totally defensive robots and that is a bad way to have to end a season.

[Mr.D]

Congratulations to the BMR winning alliance teams:
Cyber Blue 234, Pulse 1555 and Team Driven 1730!!

Also congratulations to the runnerup alliance teams:
Westside Boiler Invasion 461, Bedford Express 1023 and Harrison Boiler Robotics 1747!

The final rounds were exciting and competitive to the final second! It was a pleasure watching you compete!!

[Mark Pierce]

It is my impression that the Indiana FIRST group that puts on the Boilermaker regional still thinks the theme is "Raising the Bar". Here's my understanding of the history of this event: In 2004 the people responsible for IRI and the incredible Indiana teams figured out that "Raising the Bar" meant they should have their own regional the next year. The 2005 event was a great event, but when asked for suggestions on how to improve it the list was quite long. 2006 BMR generated a much shorter list and was a great event. Still not satisfied, the committee and all those smiling volunteers pulled off one of the smoothest FIRST events I've ever attended.

Earlier in this thead I predicted a great time. What an understatement. All of the staff bent over backwards to make sure things were done right and on time. To the helpful and patient inspectors, those visiting team pits making sure we were heading to our matches, the pit announcers, and all those behind the scenes: Thank You.

As I sat in the stands at Friday's opening ceremonies I couldn't help having doubts about the young people on the committee, doing MC, and play by play. These doubts were obviously unfonded. In fact, the play by play announcing was perhaps the best I've heard at any event. Which field will he be doing in Atlanta?

Unless they get a bigger venue, I'm really curious to see how they keep "Raising the Bar" in 2008.

[KTorak]

Congratulations to the winning alliance of 234, 1730, and 1555.

461 and 1747, you guys were awesome alliance partners. I don't think I could have been able to find a better match of teams to work together with. Good luck at ATL if you're going, it not...you may see 1023 at Boilermaker next year again.

1189, no hard feelings. My team mates and I decided early on in the regional that if we were in a position to pick, that we would take full advantage of it. Sorry again though.

[Mr.D]

On behalf of Warren Robotics 829, a BIG congratulations to Cyber Blue 234 for winning the Chairman's award!! You are a class act and well deserving.

It has been an honor and privilege to be associated with you. Good luck at Long Island and see you in Atlanta!!

[Chris Fultz]

I feel that our team was welcomed by everyone else. We got many compliments from volunteers saying that we are one of their favorite teams... ever. It feels so nice to hear that from someone after walking into a regional of strangers.


I think the Boilermaker Planning Committee and all of the teams encourage and really welcome teams from around the country (and world) to come to this event! We really think it adds to the excitement and flavor of the event to have so many "non-local" teams. Some regionals (intentionally or unintentionally) don't create such a welcome atmosphere and it really makes a difference.

Hope to see you at the Indiana Robotics Invitational in July and the Boilermaker Regional in 2008!

[Mr.D]

Congratulation to the BMR planning committee!

As usual it is a fun event. It's great not having to walk a long distance between the pits and the playing field.

I look forward to returning to Purdue every chance I get and the BMR is no exception! Having the awards in the Elliott Hall of Music and bringing the Purdue Mini Special on stage was a great addition to the event!
I was hoping to hear "Hail Purdue":D

It was a great event and I am already looking forward to 2008!

Go Boilers!!

[Sakura141]

The Boilermaker regional was awesome, and I had a great time watching the matches.

I think one of the most awesome things that happened that I saw though was our team helping out our alliance partner during the quarterfinals. We managed to right them and keep them from falling over... great teamwork there.

[Mazin]

I got this idea from somebody who made one for the 2004 GTR regional (on Wikipedia).

http://www.technokats.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3838&g2_serialNumber=2

It's a panorama of the Armory during competition, hastily photographed and then hastily assembled at home. There are pieces missing, but the overall view is there.

The original panorama is something like 33MP.

Find the original in the TechnoKats gallery (http://www.technokats.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2832).

[Mr.D]

Very nice. I like the way it shows everything

[Mike AA]

I will hopefully have video up in the next couple days on SOAP. I recorded all friday and saturday minus maybe 2/3 matches when record didn't initialize.

-Mike

[Curt_Bagne]

The Boilermaker regional was awesome, and I had a great time watching the matches.

I think one of the most awesome things that happened that I saw though was our team helping out our alliance partner during the quarterfinals. We managed to right them and keep them from falling over... great teamwork there.

http://picasaweb.google.com/cgbagne/Boilermaker
Here are some pictures of 573 falling and being righted by 141. When the weight of the robot was being supported by the partially extended arm I was almost sure that it would need lots of repairs but fortunately there was no visible damage.

[MasterChief 573]

http://picasaweb.google.com/cgbagne/Boilermaker
Here are some pictures of 573 falling and being righted by 141. When the weight of the robot was being supported by the partially extended arm I was almost sure that it would need lots of repairs but fortunately there was no visible damage.

No damages, no way! Thanks for the good news Curt Gofrank Bagne! Anyway Boilermaker was a pretty good regional and 573 had a blast, hope to see you all at the Championships!

[KnottyPanda]

This regional was so much fun. Everyone was so enthusiastic and welcoming towards our team (NH 166) and it was so exciting to be out there with you guys. I want to give a shoutout to our alliance partners, 1189 and 931. It was so great to be with you guys out on the field, and we put up a great fight. (this is the 166 human player btw)

Wicked awesome, guys! Hope to see you again soon!

[kramarczyk]

1189, no hard feelings. My team mates and I decided early on in the regional that if we were in a position to pick, that we would take full advantage of it. Sorry again though. No problem, you obviously made a good choice.

I'd like to thank 931, 166, & 1990 for their assistance in the tournement. This was our first time as an alliance captain and you guys made it easy on us; thanks, it was 'wicked awesome'. Sorry we had to bow out in the semis... here's why:

http://www.gpgearheads.org/gallery/albums/2007-Competitions/IMGP1666.sized.jpg
http://www.gpgearheads.org/gallery/albums/2007-Competitions/IMGP1667.sized.jpg

Who can say 4140 Rc40?

[KTorak]

That was on a drive wheel, right? What kinda of setup were you using. We used aluminum shafts and keys, but we just used 1 CIM and an AndyMark (similar to 2006 KOP) transmission. We also then reduced it by 1/3 and used a belt drive system.

[kramarczyk]

That was on a drive wheel, right? What kinda of setup were you using. We used aluminum shafts and keys, but we just used 1 CIM and an AndyMark (similar to 2006 KOP) transmission. We also then reduced it by 1/3 and used a belt drive system.

Yeah it was a center drive wheel... anything else and we probably could have pulled the chain and continued.

Our drivetrain was 6x6 - 2 CIMS a side into AM servo shifters buried in our rails. With the additional reduction from sprockets we were running ratios of 10.0 in high and 25.6 in low. All the components are (were) aluminum... 5/8 igus shafting and IFI sprockets with hubs welded on.

[Protronie]

Having the awards in the Elliott Hall of Music and bringing the Purdue Mini Special on stage was a great addition to the event!
I was hoping to hear "Hail Purdue":D
It was a great event and I am already looking forward to 2008!
Go Boilers!!

I agree it looked like a great event , sadly I was sitting in my office watching it on my computer. Still looked like a blast and did a lot of yelling at my monitor.
Only disappointment I had was not seeing the awards ceremony ... maybe something could be set up not year for that (hint hint).
Congrats to all there for putting on such an awesome event! :D

[Dan Petrovic]

Is anyone working on getting the video feed uploaded onto SOAP or TBA?

There are a couple matches I'd like to watch. :cool:

[crazykid234]

A huge shout out and thanks go to our alliance partners 1730 for picking us, and 1555 for being one of greatest defensive/lifters we could have asked for. You guys helped a dream come true.

Thanks to 461, 1023, and 1747 for some exhilerating finals. That last match came so close to a tie I almost lost it for a second. You were all very classy and you gave us a very close finals.

[Mazin]

Another version of the Boilermaker panorama, this time manually blended. There should be less decapitated people in this one.

http://www.technokats.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3840

[I.U.man_22]

I would like to say thanks to 1555 and 1730 for being such great alliance partners.

[EvilMonkyPirate]

I am wicked happy that our team (166) picked Indiana to go to this year. It was a lot of fun. I'd like to thank teams 1189 and 931 for picking us in finals! We had a lot of fun and I hope to see your teams again.

We would also like to invite your teams to our minicomp. We have not picked a date yet, but when we have space in the school booked we'll let you know. It was a lot of fun working with you and I think seeing your teams again up here would be wicked awesome.

~Tiffany George~
~Co-pilot~Co-Captain~

[Mike AA]

Is anyone working on getting the video feed uploaded onto SOAP or TBA?

There are a couple matches I'd like to watch. :cool:

I am working on video right now. Should be ready Tuesday. I haven't access to soap yet but it will atleast be on my server when it it done.


http://video.team2015robotics.com/

It will likely take some time downloading because my upload speed isn't as fast as I would like it. If nothing comes up please PM me or just wait 1/2 hour. I have a new harddrive I need to install for all these new files and archives I have.

-Mike

[AmyPrib]

LOST AND FOUND:

If you think you might have lost something at BMR, please let us know. We have a box of stuff.

[AmyPrib]

CLOSING CEREMONY VIDEO:

If anyone took some decent video of the awards ceremonies in Elliott Hall (Friday/Saturday/both), please let me know. Ideally would be of the entire ceremonies, not just a particular team. If so, would like to discuss getting a copy.
Thanks,

[Andy Baker]

LOST AND FOUND:

If you think you might have lost something at BMR, please let us know. We have a box of stuff.

We lost a couple of matches that we would like to have back... are they in the box?

:)

AB

[Richard Wallace]

We lost a couple of matches that we would like to have back... are they in the box?Were they safety matches, or the strike-anywhere kind? :rolleyes:

Congratulation to the TechnoKats for a very strong showing at Boilermaker. It was a very well run event, and the play was fiercely competitive. And that's a good thing. From where I sat it appeared that your team was just one or two tough breaks away from a second regional final, and very possibly a second regional win.

[IndySam]

LOST AND FOUND:

If you think you might have lost something at BMR, please let us know. We have a box of stuff.

We lost our dancing partner, see them around anywhere?

[Mike AA]

I am getting video uploaded to my server slowly but surely. I will first get low quality 320X240 loaded, then once that is all ready I will upload higher quality. Sorry for the slow download speed but its all I've got.

http://video.team2015robotics.com/

-Mike

[IndySam]

I am getting video uploaded to my server slowly but surely. I will first get low quality 320X240 loaded, then once that is all ready I will upload higher quality. Sorry for the slow download speed but its all I've got.

http://video.team2015robotics.com/

-Mike

I was just watching the first finals match and noticed that 1555 lifted their bumpers with their robot!

Better fix that before Atlanta guys.

[robochick1319]

Hey everybody!

I just wanted to say on behalf of 1319, thank you all for such a fantastic regional!! Once again, Purdue held one kicking tournament with great competition and great people!

I would like to personally thank team 1737 and 1985, our alliance partners, for their great performance during quarterfinals and semifinals! Y'all were awesome and I hope we meet again one day!

The entire regional was a blast and definitely worth the 13 hour bus-ride :ahh:

I hope all of you had as great a time as me and if YOU ever feel like travelling 13 hours it would be awesome to see y'all at the Palmetto Regional in SC next year.

Thanks for everything and good luck!

[Chris Fultz]

LOST AND FOUND:

If you think you might have lost something at BMR, please let us know. We have a box of stuff.

Please send me a list of what you found and I will see if i want any of it to be mine....

[roboticsguy1988]

LOST AND FOUND:

If you think you might have lost something at BMR, please let us know. We have a box of stuff.

I don't think they took you seriously Amy :D :rolleyes: .

[meatmanek]

I think a nice idea would be to make a torrent for each regional, then advertise it to all the teams that went to that regional. It'd save you a lot of bandwidth.

[Frew]

member of team 1555...our whole robot goes into the air all that touches the ground are 4 legs

[IndySam]

member of team 1555...our whole robot goes into the air all that touches the ground are 4 legs

Yup and when the bumpers on your robot go over 8" they are illegal. You need to remove them.

Just an FYI.

[Chris_Elston]

I was just watching the first finals match and noticed that 1555 lifted their bumpers with their robot!

Better fix that before Atlanta guys.


If they lift their bumpers over the bumper zone, they have to include the bumpers in the weight of the robot, otherwise it's ok to lift the bumpers over the bumper zone so long as they include them in the weight of the robot.

That was one of our questions to the GDC. Link (http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=4969)

[IndySam]

If they lift their bumpers over the bumper zone, they have to include the bumpers in the weight of the robot, otherwise it's ok to lift the bumpers over the bumper zone so long as they include them in the weight of the robot.

That was one of our questions to the GDC. Link (http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=4969)


Thanks, good point. If they are outside the starting size would they be legal?

[KTorak]

Thanks, good point. If they are outside the starting size would they be legal?

Yes. Non standard bumpers are subject to the same weight/size regulation of regular robots. I'm surprised no one caught onto this....I sure didnt :(

[nazman]

A huge shout out and thanks go to our alliance partners 1730 for picking us, and 1555 for being one of greatest defensive/lifters we could have asked for. You guys helped a dream come true.

Thanks to 461, 1023, and 1747 for some exhilerating finals. That last match came so close to a tie I almost lost it for a second. You were all very classy and you gave us a very close finals.


Thanks so much to you guys and 1555. Our drive team was very impressed with your scouting data and I thought you all did an amazing job working together in the elimination matches. Everyone was so great to work with.

You know, a bunch of our team was really worried about coming up to the boilermaker regional knowing how tough the competition would be. But I think that regardless of the outcome they would certainly agree that the boildermaker is one of the best regionals going. The people are so great and the everything runs so smooth.

Thanks again, and see you in Atlanta

Jim Nazworthy
Sponsor: Team Driven #1730

[Denman625]

Thank you to all who have congratulated team 1730 on our success. It was a great regional to compete in.It was a very tough regional. It was an honor to compete in the winning alliance with teams 234 and 1555. Best of luck to you guys in Atlanta. We'll be looking forward to seeing you there.

[Jherbie53]

Here is a link to another thread that has two matches from Boilermaker and a bulid season movie. Team 85 movies (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=55980)

[Sakura141]

http://picasaweb.google.com/cgbagne/Boilermaker
Here are some pictures of 573 falling and being righted by 141. When the weight of the robot was being supported by the partially extended arm I was almost sure that it would need lots of repairs but fortunately there was no visible damage.


that's great! I'm glad there wasn't tons of damage done to your teams bot.

Thanks for the pics too =D They're pretty cool.

[NoRemorse]

So let me get this straight.... team 1555 could have been

A) Over the weight limit depending on the weight of their bumpers and robot
B) Over the dimensions with the same stipulations as above
C) Should not have had their bumpers on during competition.

Not that it would have really offset their win, it just bothers me that no one caught that until now. I hope they either run with out bumpers from now on, or change how their bumpers mount to the frame....

[KTorak]

I'm also kinda surprised that no one caught on considering this:

Our robot is about 36 inches long and our ramps are this wide. Therefore we have 2 extra inches, in which part of our arm sticks out in the front, and barely in the back. Just about every other match I got brought back to the field by a ref where they told me the arm couldn't hang out and that we couldn't compete like that. And every time I told them the situation and then they measured it every time as well...

[Courtneyb1023]

you can see the bumper issue here...

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27887?

I agree that this issue is a bit unsettling considering the winners of a regional are supposed to represent the best that competed within the rules. However, as long as we can learn from this and look for similar infractions at future competitions, i don't really see it as that big of a deal.

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[Richard Wallace]

you can see the bumper issue here...

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27887?

I agree that this issue is a bit unsettling considering the winners of a regional are supposed to represent the best that competed within the rules. However, as long as we can learn from this and look for similar infractions at future competitions, i don't really see it as that big of a deal.I've actually missed this <R37> infraction on two (or more) robots so far. There was a robot at St. Louis (yes, I recall the team and no, I won't mention them here) that had the same standard bumper height infraction while lifting; they have since corrected their design to comply with the rule. All inspectors and referees missed the infraction during Friday qualifying. On Saturday morning a pit neighbor spotted the problem and brought it to the team's attention. They were aware of the rule but had not seen the GDC Q&A response (http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=4969) confirming that the rule applies even when lifting. Once they saw the problem they were very gracious about correcting it before playing Saturday. I am sure that 1555 will be equally gracious before their next event.

The reason that Boilermaker officials didn't catch the problem right away is probably the same as the reason the St. Louis officials didn't catch it: we were too busy staring at the awesome lifter and saying, "wow, that is cool!" :)

[Oumonkey]

Hail all. I am from 1555, and I am sorry that was never caught. That was something we never thought of, or I guess some one never noticed. There was a person who was supposed to make sure the bumpers were complying with the rules, but I guess it slipped by. And we lifted many times and no one said anything. Although I currently don't understand the why that is a problem, we will still follow it. From now on we will be going without the bumpers. I sorry if this upset anyone, it was just something that slipped by. We are a small team so to make sure every rule is in compliance can be hard at times. Thanks for pointing that out to us. If someone had pointed this out to us earlier we would have gladly removed them.

[Logan Byers]

I've actually missed this <R37> infraction on two (or more) robots so far. There was a robot at St. Louis (yes, I recall the team and no, I won't mention them here) that had the same standard bumper height infraction while lifting; they have since corrected their design to comply with the rule. All inspectors and referees missed the infraction during Friday qualifying. On Saturday morning a pit neighbor spotted the problem and brought it to the team's attention. They were aware of the rule but had not seen the GDC Q&A response confirming that the rule applies even when lifting. Once they saw the problem they were very gracious about correcting it before playing Saturday. I am sure that 1555 will be equally gracious before their next event.
The reason that Boilermaker officials didn't catch the problem right away is probably the same as the reason the St. Louis officials didn't catch it: we were too busy staring at the awesome lifter and saying, "wow, that is cool!" :)

As one of the inspectors and referees, I feel bad that we missed this. I respectively disagree that we missed this because we were marveling at their lift.
As the ref, it was one of the last things on my mind. As an inspector, we probably should see how teams use certain mechanisms to make sure they're not inadvertently breaking certain rules and to make sure this doesn't happen again.
I would suggest adding a step to the inspection process (although a few teams already have a hard enough time getting through inspection). Maybe have the inspector accompany each robot over to the practice field and have the team demonstrate the functions of the robot to make sure it's capabilities comply with rules. I don't know how useful this step would be in future years, but maybe it would help prevent these small (and hopefully) unintentional infractions from occurring.
In addition, I would hope that if someone sees a robot breaking a rule and the refs/inspectors missed it, that they first bring it up to the team in a gracious manner. If the team were to continue to ignore the advise of their peers, which hopefully wouldn't happen, you can always mention it to the head ref or inspector.

[IndySam]

Hail all. I am from 1555, and I am sorry that was never caught. That was something we never thought of, or I guess some one never noticed. There was a person who was supposed to make sure the bumpers were complying with the rules, but I guess it slipped by. And we lifted many times and no one said anything. Although I currently don't understand the why that is a problem, we will still follow it. From now on we will be going without the bumpers. I sorry if this upset anyone, it was just something that slipped by. We are a small team so to make sure every rule is in compliance can be hard at times. Thanks for pointing that out to us. If someone had pointed this out to us earlier we would have gladly removed them.

No worries. It didn't really affect the outcome and you didn't do it on purpose. Things like this happen.

I was a coach in the number 8 alliance and I missed it when we played against you (and when we played with you during qualifications.)

It’s as much our fault for not pointing it out to you earlier.

[Dan Petrovic]

Is anyone working on getting the videos up onto SOAP?

Just wondering because there are a couple matches I'd like to see.