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We can discuss all here. Are you coming, what is good and bad, FIRST's only Super Regional.
2 fields, largest event outside of Championships, great competition, lots of teams and a great place to tune up just before Championships.
We are hoping that 2007 tops all of the past years. Those that have been to GTR can speak for themselves but even though it is my home event, I believe that it is one of the most exciting. With 2 fields there is not stop competition. This does cause a little problem for the scouts but hey, let them work for a change.
Hope to see you all there. Here is a link to the new FIRST Robotics Canada web page where you can link to either GTR or Waterloo:
http://www.firstroboticscanada.org/site/index.php
Ricky Q.
04-10-2006, 09:47
Better watch out, I hear a certain WI team is venturing north of the border to join the fun.
Yes we are coming, can't wait.
Travis Hoffman
04-10-2006, 10:24
You'd wonder when 48 would ever tire of going, but we'll be back at GTR again for the sixth consecutive year.
One suggestion - give the crowd a little extra time to completely fill up the stands around the finals field right after semis are over - the energy and sound coming from the packed stands around 2005's single field seemed greater than that from last year, where the crowd seemed a bit spread out.
Jonathan Norris
04-10-2006, 13:30
610 will be there again for our 6th year in a row as well. It is a great event every year, and you get a much different experience at GTR then at some of the smaller regionals. The experience is as close to that of the championship as you can get. Competing and winning at GTR is almost as difficult as winning a division at the championship. I like to think of it as our 'local' championship. I wonder if we will get more than 70 teams again this year?
Any American team that wants to see what it is like better go this year, because soon the Canada-America passport law will take effect.
Any American team that wants to see what it is like better go this year, because soon the Canada-America passport law will take effect.
if im not mistaken, it will be put into effect starting this December. well at least thats what they lady told me when I got my passport months ago for last year's GTR.
It has been postponed for 17 months (passport stuff). It's not that difficult to get and lasts 5 years. I am not sure about US but Canadian are cheaper for younger students (16 or 18 not sure)
if im not mistaken, it will be put into effect starting this December. well at least thats what they lady told me when I got my passport months ago for last year's GTR.
- For air and sea travel across the Canada-US border, a passport will be mandatory as of January 8th, 2007
- For land travel across the Canada-US border, a passport will be mandatory as of January 1st, 2008
This law is currently under review, and there is a lot of talk that it will not be instituted. Time will tell.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
Either way, both the Greater Toronto and Waterloo Regionals are hoping to have many visitors from our neighbours to the south. If you come up, I can promise you'll be shown some good old Canadian Hospitality, and one amazing time Eh? ;)
Jay Trzaskos
04-10-2006, 23:06
I'm hoping to make the trip across the border for the third year in a row. (and the 4th time since 2002) Only time will tell whether or not 229 will also be making the trip.
dtengineering
05-10-2006, 02:23
This year will mark our fourth straight year of winging it out to T.O. from the west coast. GTR (then the Canadian) was our first regional, and it is still an amazing experience.... well worth the 6700km round trip. With any luck (and a bit of generous sponsorship from local firms) we'll bring a rookie team or two along this year as well.
It was particularly enjoyable at GTR last year as it was the first year that we attended where we did not get snowed upon! I think it is always good for my students to learn why people make jokes about Canadian winters... here in Vancouver the snow stays on the mountains where it belongs. :-)
Jason
J Flex 188
07-10-2006, 02:45
This is as close to the championship as you can get folks ;) in terms of organization, preparation, number of teams and the general atmosphere. One of the things that I think that particularly sets the GTAR apart is a very diverse collection of very very experienced teams and other very new and very raw teams. What is particularly interesting is that this formula has repeated itself since the original inception and with that, some of the original new teams are starting to take over the reins. This is what FIRST lives and breathes in competition mode. Don't miss out!
neilsonster
11-10-2006, 19:58
From what I've heard this is the only regional 772 has made a decision on going to so far. The team is finishing up some reorganisation (as of tonight, actually) and should know what other ones they will be attending soon.
GTR last year was incredible, I really hope to make it to this one, but it depends on where my co-op job is. I can't wait!!!!
It can't be said enough times... if your team has never crossed the border for this event, there's no reason why you shouldn't give GTR some strong consideration!!! You won't regret it :).
Laura 1547
26-10-2006, 08:37
Does anyone remember the team from England last year?
What team number were they and are they coming back again this year?
Kims Robot
26-10-2006, 12:22
Well, our team picked Boston for our second regional this year... but we do have a bunch of us that want to come up and volunteer anyway :)
My only comment as to the super regional, is while it is definitely WAY cool... I didnt see the excitement there last year that I did the year before... less cheering, no dancing, etc :-/ It didnt quite have the same vibe.
Richard Wallace
26-10-2006, 13:07
Does anyone remember the team from England last year?
What team number were they and are they coming back again this year?I don't recall which UK team was at GTR last year. 759 from Cambridge and 1884 from London are both registered for the 2007 New York City regional.
dhitchco
26-10-2006, 13:10
Well, this Toronto "super regional" should indeed be a model for other regions of the world....wow!
So, even though my team (1511) won't be participating, Kim O'Toole is right, in that gracious people will want to treck to Toronto to volunteer....I'll try to be there to see the sights anyways.
Now, I've also taken the liberty to send a notice to the U.S. Customs & Border patrol to give free access to all thr wild & crazy teams that will be coming to Toronto.
I've also taken the liberty at starting this convenient translation guide:
a) "What do 'yall mean?" as well as "whatz up dude?" BOTH translate into "eh?"
b) The words "approximate" and "nearby" BOTH translate into "abooot"
I'm sure that Steve W and others would be happy to furnish other translations. The only word that doesn't translate is "gracious"......BE THERE.
Dylan Gramlich
26-10-2006, 13:25
I so0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o!!! did i say so? well i so0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0.........a while later......o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o wanna go! but it is during school, and i wont have a ride, and i dont have money, and yeah more stuff, which really stink cause it sounds awesome an i wish i was going!!! have fun....when it comes around....
Laura 1547
26-10-2006, 17:25
I've also taken the liberty at starting this convenient translation guide:
a) "What do 'yall mean?" as well as "whatz up dude?" BOTH translate into "eh?"
b) The words "approximate" and "nearby" BOTH translate into "abooot"
HAHAHAHAHA i've never heard anyone start a conversation with the word eh before. And i definetly think the pronounciation of aboot is scottish. :D
Jay Trzaskos
26-10-2006, 20:09
It turns out 229 will not be making the trip to GTR, and neither will I. We'll be at SBPLI that weekend. I'm not going to lie, I'm going to miss being at GTR this year.
JT
229
Travis Hoffman
26-10-2006, 23:38
I don't recall which UK team was at GTR last year. 759 from Cambridge and 1884 from London are both registered for the 2007 New York City regional.
I'm going to guess, probably incorrectly, 1963. Just because.
*EDIT* Dang, I'm good. Check out Judges' Award, Day 2.
http://www.firstroboticscanada.org/toronto/awards2006.php
MChapman
27-10-2006, 07:46
Turns out at our meeting this past Wednesday, Aces High is deciding to sing up for Toronto this year! We're all excited to be heading up north. we'll see you all up there. :D
Sadly, Team 865 will not participate in FRC this year due to lack of teacher's support :( I'll miss you guys. However, we're looking forward too see everyone again in 2008. Until then we'll play around with some new "toys" that our school got this year. I'll post up some pictures when the construction of the new facility is finished, in three or four weeks.
(Hint: robotics related stuff. Maybe a industrial robotic welder? or a Plasma CAM plasma cutter?)
neilsonster
10-12-2006, 00:43
Since the new website came up the pending teams for this event seem to have disappeared - are there really only going to be 54 teams going this year? If I remember right there were 52 teams registered with ~15 pending before the site changed.
Anyone know what's going on here? Thanks.
To the best of my knowledge there will be 60 - 65 teams and 1 field.
AcesPease
10-12-2006, 13:54
To the best of my knowledge there will be 60 - 65 teams and 1 field.
Will we still get at least 8 qualification rounds? We are really looking forward to the trip.
It depends on the game but that is our goal even if we have to stay late on Friday.
astephen68
14-12-2006, 21:11
Who Won Toronto Regionals last year? Was it Simbotics team 1114. If so, DO you think team 1114 simbotics will Do great again thi year. In first vex inToronto their robot could pick up 6 balls at a time and they won that. We 1281 had a fair match against ismbotics which was awesome!!! Simbotics is a good team to face!
neilsonster
14-12-2006, 22:23
Who Won Toronto Regionals last year? Was it Simbotics team 1114. If so, DO you think team 1114 simbotics will Do great again thi year. In first vex inToronto their robot could pick up 6 balls at a time and they won that. We 1281 had a fair match against ismbotics which was awesome!!! Simbotics is a good team to face!
Last year 1114, 1503, and 865 won the Greater Toronto Regional. 1114 has won it the past two years, so yes, they will probably do fairly well again this year! It's great to have competitive teams like theirs coming from Canada. It just makes our team (and others) try harder to do the best we can.
astephen68
15-12-2006, 17:44
Allright why is 114 simbotics are so good?? WHat do they tdo?
Richard Wallace
15-12-2006, 20:26
Allright why is 114 simbotics are so good?? WHat do they tdo?You could try searching CD for 1114 or NiagaraFIRST.
Or you could go to the Waterloo or Greater Toronto regional, walk up to anyone in their pit, and ask. You may end up feeling like you asked for a sip of water and ended up soaked by a fire hose, but you won't walk away disappointed.
1114 is one of the great FRC teams, an odds-on bet to make the Hall of Fame some year.
astephen68
15-12-2006, 21:02
LOL. Yeah i was just wondering what they do and who they get to sponsor them!:yikes:
Richard Wallace
15-12-2006, 21:25
LOL. Yeah i was just wondering what they do and who they get to sponsor them!:yikes:http://simbotics.homedns.org/?p=sponsor-now&skin=redstuff
astephen68
15-12-2006, 21:26
Thanks
Sgraff_SRHS06
16-12-2006, 20:44
I don't think it has that much to do with sponsors. Sponsors help, especially on the money side, but most of Simbotics sponsors appear local with the exception of GM. They are also a regular public school, not unlike 173, 47, 49, and others to note. I think their big advantage is that they knew the right people and asked the right questions and did the right stuff.
Sometimes the difference between an awesome bot and an average bot is just in one or two small details that they were able to manipulate (and that detail soon goes into everyone's KOP).
They happened to have one really successful year last year and have been successful for a number of years (maintained success).
Why I think they succeed time and time again? Mentors with good machining/wiring/coding abilities (not necessarily engineers) that teach the students on the team so they really know how to do it (and optimize upon that), and good engineering decision making. (In other words, comprimising between elements and optimizing everything so things work well and are laid out/set up in a way that's easy to repair and set up while still being safe.)
But most of all, they went out into the community and really helped from the start. It helps the community get involved in the program and help make it better.
Jonathan Norris
16-12-2006, 22:43
Coming from the perspective of someone who saw too much of 1114 in competition last year this is why I believe 1114 is so successful. No one one 1114 posses any mystical powers, nor are they doing anything that any other team could not. But its a combination of collecting the smartest and most motivated mentors and students to challenge the limits of the FIRST Robotics competition. One thing that I believe has separates 1114 is their teams competitive spirit. Very few teams spend the time constantly tweaking and discovering how their robot truly works, tweaking and changing things to make their robot perform even better. Thats not to say they are perfect, or build unbeatable robots. If you talk to them they know exactly what the faults of their robots are, and I believe they learned many hard lessons that most FIRST teams have. But the scary thing about 1114 is that they learn their lessons quickly, and their robots have been getting better and better every year.
Anyone who says "It's because they are GM sponsored!" are plainly ignorant of how their team works. As I discovered this year the mentors and students who run 1114 love robotics, these guys know their stuff. They truly understand robot design, game strategy, and FIRST history.
I have heard too many Canadian teams complain about 1114 and the triplets far too many times, its time for us to learn from what 1114 and the triplets do right and work to be as or more competitive then them. Thats not to say there aren't Canadian teams who are not doing this take 296, 1305, and 188 as prime examples. But there are far to many teams that take the stance that "its 1114 we can't beat them...", thats the attitude that need to be changed.
Now getting back on topic: I hope to see more Canadian teams out there challenging 1114 and the triples next year to take the GTR crown away from them. You better know 610 will be coming for ya :cool:
Now getting back on topic: I hope to see more Canadian teams out there challenging 1114 and the triplets...
Thanks for the kind words, Jon. One of our biggest goals as a team is to imspire others to strive to be the best. The development of Team 610 is a testament to this. We look forward to playing with/against you this year. :)
BTW, There will be no triplets in 2007.
Sgraff_SRHS06
17-12-2006, 01:24
Coming from the perspective of someone who saw too much of 1114 in competition last year this is why I believe 1114 is so successful. No one one 1114 posses any mystical powers, nor are they doing anything that any other team could not. But its a combination of collecting the smartest and most motivated mentors and students to challenge the limits of the FIRST Robotics competition. One thing that I believe has separates 1114 is their teams competitive spirit. Very few teams spend the time constantly tweaking and discovering how their robot truly works, tweaking and changing things to make their robot perform even better. Thats not to say they are perfect, or build unbeatable robots. If you talk to them they know exactly what the faults of their robots are, and I believe they learned many hard lessons that most FIRST teams have. But the scary thing about 1114 is that they learn their lessons quickly, and their robots have been getting better and better every year.
Anyone who says "It's because they are GM sponsored!" are plainly ignorant of how their team works. As I discovered this year the mentors and students who run 1114 love robotics, these guys know their stuff. They truly understand robot design, game strategy, and FIRST history.
I have heard too many Canadian teams complain about 1114 and the triplets far too many times, its time for us to learn from what 1114 and the triplets do right and work to be as or more competitive then them. Thats not to say there aren't Canadian teams who are not doing this take 296, 1305, and 188 as prime examples. But there are far to many teams that take the stance that "its 1114 we can't beat them...", thats the attitude that need to be changed.
Now getting back on topic: I hope to see more Canadian teams out there challenging 1114 and the triples next year to take the GTR crown away from them. You better know 610 will be coming for ya :cool:
Very true. 1114 has followers in 1111. Sounds strange for being so far apart but true. And last year, we "sort of" implemented what they knew about doing. We had people constantly trying to figure out the robot and figure out how to improve it. We also finally had their luck in the mentor category, we had parents who really knew how to work with tools and machines and enough spare parts around for prototyping. Plus, we pretty much ended up claiming the Tech Ed dept. at the school because one of the new mentors was a tech-ed teacher at the school for a long time there. This year, now that the students had a chance to learn from those mentors at least once, I'm pretty sure that they will do well and (now) pretty much function like 1114.
And back to another 1114-esque antidote: There were a number of robots that everyone was fearing and did not want to step up to beat, and then there was that one robot nobody talked about that was completely dominating. Everyone knew what 888 and 237 could do. The announcers wanted everyone to fear those teams. As it turned out, nobody listened and people stepped up to the challenge. However, it was 1629 that beating anyone and I did not hear one word about it. It just was really tough to beat. It wasn't GM sponsored. It wasn't even a Baltimore-area team, let alone a Baltimore-Washington-corridor team (where most of the wealthier teams are). These guys (though they did have NASA sponsorship) were pretty much run by smaller sponsors and just worked their butts off on that robot. It was absolutely amazing. And then they bring in the GM team (1184) for defense and there was no way we or any of the other teams could stop it. And nobody took notice. They all focused on 888. There were other teams of note--341 and 122--that seeded midpack, had pretty good robots, but had much better luck in championships for probably the same reason: nobody expects them to succeed (when Kitties and Chickens and Raiders and Poofs and Beachbots rule the field).
astephen68
17-12-2006, 10:45
Yeah
JamesBrown
17-12-2006, 13:50
Thanks for the kind words, Jon. One of our biggest goals as a team is to imspire others to strive to be the best. The development of Team 610 is a testament to this. We look forward to playing with/against you this year. :)
BTW, There will be no triplets in 2007.
Triplets or not 1114, 1503, and 1680, along with the new additions of 2056 and 2116 are going to be forces to be reckoned with.
astephen68
17-12-2006, 16:44
Yeah maybe. From what I've Heard you guys are great teams. :yikes:
Sgraff_SRHS06
17-12-2006, 18:50
Quintuplets? WTF??
How's the alliance thing gonna work out to get everyone together??
Quintuplets?
Nooooooooooooooooo.
All these teams will have their own robot.
Sgraff_SRHS06
18-12-2006, 01:34
Fraternal quintuplets? Obviously it would be violating the code of honour to have identical quintuplets. :D
astephen68
19-12-2006, 20:04
What is the triplets thing?
Richard Wallace
19-12-2006, 21:54
What is the triplets thing?You are new to these boards and you've chosen an important team role (scout), so this time you can be spared the usual "search before you post" scolding.
Look here for the 2006 NiagaraFIRST Triplets (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44797&highlight=niagarafirst+triplets).
Also here (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46121&highlight=niagarafirst+triplets). And here (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46353&highlight=niagarafirst+triplets).
Please learn to use the search features of CD. The benefit will be worth your trouble.
astephen68
20-12-2006, 15:51
Thank you
Dr_Zaius_22
10-01-2007, 01:35
Hey, Nice to See that we actually have new 1281 members this Year!
astephen68, As team alumni I would recommend asking some of the people who were on the team last year regarding 1114 (as well as their brother's/sister's 1503 and 1680). Though it is quite possible at the time of reading this that your questions have already been answered lol
In either case, congrats on your success at VEX this year.
Hopefully we see the same results out of the FRC team as well.
dtengineering
10-01-2007, 01:42
It was particularly enjoyable at GTR last year as it was the first year that we attended where we did not get snowed upon! I think it is always good for my students to learn why people make jokes about Canadian winters... here in Vancouver the snow stays on the mountains where it belongs. :-)
Jason
I posted this BEFORE:
We had the wettest November in Vancouver's history,
Storms caused landslides in the mountain reservoirs, causing a week-long "Boil Water advisory" for over one million people
Snow shut down most schools for a day, and was on the ground for two weeks.
Storms ripped up or broke over 2,000 trees in Stanley Park and left thousands without power... for days in some places.
Wind ripped the top on BC Place Stadium, forcing it to deflate.
We got snow for the fourth time so far this winter this evening...
and BEFORE I knew Torontonians would be golfing at Christmas.
Eating my words about the weather, but still looking forward to GTR,
Jason
AcesPease
10-01-2007, 11:08
Will anymore pending teams be allowed to register for GTR?
I was glad to see Northern Knights 296 added :)
Laura 1547
26-03-2007, 12:17
So since this has been the quietest regional thread (no one has posted since January)...
Less than a week away!!! Whose excited??
Travis Hoffman
26-03-2007, 13:02
So since this has been the quietest regional thread (no one has posted since January)...
Less than a week away!!! Whose excited??
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...........
Just kidding! :)
I can't wait to turn right around after arriving home for Buckeye and head out to Canada this year. There are lots of great offensive teams, many with excellent drivetrains, that will pose quite the challenge for us. I also look forward to seeing the alternative defensive stylings of teams like 854.
48 will be in Niagara Falls on Wednesday from about 11:30 - 3:00. Area teams are welcome to come find us and say hi, unless it means skipping school and doing all kinds of truant things your mentors will not be happy about. :D Typically the kids are either at the Falls or up in the Clifton Hill area (you will find me further down the block away from the Falls at another establishment ;) ). I believe we're also going to go downtown to the Eaton Centre around 7:30 - 8:00 Wednesday night.
By the way, in talking with our local state representative, he mentioned the possibility of obtaining some kind of financial passport assistance for our team next season, so continuing our journey to GTR in future seasons is not quite out of the question yet. American teams, I suggest you bug your local state representatives and see if there are any similar programs available to help share the cost of passports for everyone.
Vince lau
26-03-2007, 13:12
i can't wait 3 more days, I took thrusday and friday off from work :)
team 48 will be at eaton centre? maybe i'll hunt you guys down
Nawaid Ladak
26-03-2007, 13:14
i think waterloo is just a preview to what wonders GTR will bring, remember the regional last year with the triplets taking on division by chicken. SM1-1
how great was that.
i think waterloo is just a preview to what wonders GTR will bring, remember the regional last year with the triplets taking on division by chicken. SM1-1
how great was that.
GTR is an amazing regional, that SM1-1 match is still in good memory to me! On another note, i wish i could be there again this year! (Why does California have to be so far? :p )
Good Luck to all teams! I'll be watching the webcast ! (There will be one right??! )
AcesPease
26-03-2007, 15:06
So since this has been the quietest regional thread (no one has posted since January)...
Less than a week away!!! Whose excited??
Aces High is excited! Its our first trip out of the country.
astephen68
26-03-2007, 15:12
I think it's going to be a good one. Great matches i have seen so far and keep a look on the rack and scoreboard so you might be able to turn a match around if the referees make a mistake! No offese the semi finals at waterloo was a crazy one. going 4 mathes!!!!!!!! LOL
Ricky Q.
26-03-2007, 15:43
Aces High is excited! Its our first trip out of the country.
CooneyTech is also excited to be venturing north! Its been a tough 3 weeks off but we are ready to go again....
we are trying to sneak into this one too. Not sure how it will play out, but we are trying. Our robot broke more often than not at waterloo, but its all fixed and we hope to show everyone what we can do! Good Luck everyone
May the FIRST Gods of Randomizing smile down upon us and have a match of 48 and 772 anmd (Insert third partner here) vs. 1114 and 1503 and (insert third partner here) (with Powerman5000's When Worlds Collide in the background) so we can truly see the battle of the unstoppable vs. the immovable.
astephen68
26-03-2007, 16:29
It's going to be a crazy gtr tournament i tell you. I think 1114 might lose becuase in the finals at waterloo they lost the first match and if the other team didn't die 1114 could have lost. LOL
hahaha that would be a very cool match to watch as I did not get to see 1114 and 1503 together at waterloo. and I hear 48 and 772 are pretty good too :p
astephen68
26-03-2007, 16:31
Yeah they are and I think it could happen seriously. The only thing they have got on teams is speed. LOL. I like how their body is a ramp. That is very creative.
Vince lau
26-03-2007, 16:42
i wish all teams good luck at what looks like a great regional. If any teams need any last minute help you can find me in either 1281 or 849 pit
It's going to be a crazy gtr tournament i tell you. I think 1114 might lose becuase in the finals at waterloo they lost the first match and if the other team didn't die 1114 could have lost. LOL
In the first match, 771 lost a chain and therefore was unable to climb 1114's ramp.
In the second match, the score was 46-4. 1006 got 30 points in penalties for dying in red's end zone, so if they didn't die, red still would have won 46-36. 771's robot wasn't at full functionality, as explained here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=604634&postcount=156.
The third match red won 66-34, with 771 at even lower functionality.
1114 and 2056 were a very, very potent combonation. I would certainly be on the lookout for them all throughout GTR.
1114 was also bombarded with defence all through the eliminations, and still managed to win. Their ability to play through defence, or even play defence (see waterloo qf 1.1) is incredible to watch.
Yeah they are and I think it could happen seriously. The only thing they have got on teams is speed. LOL. I like how their body is a ramp. That is very creative.
They have speed, strategy, a very fast, effective arm, a solid drivetrain and a great ramp on teams. Some teams struggle to have just one of those things - 1114 accomplished all of them. I am very glad that we had the chance to play with them, as opposed to against them.
After the guys' performance at Waterloo, I am absolutely giddy to see how they do at the GTR. If our alliance partners hadn't had a drivetrain breakdown in our opponent's endzone in the finals at Waterloo, things could have been very different. Its the closest we have ever come to winning a regional (well I guess its the closest anyone could come lol) I can't wait to see what GTR has in store for everyone.
This is my first post on CD for a couple years- I was summoned back after a slew of PMs and emails asking if I had a video of our bot in action at the Waterloo Regional. http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMLWpPU_QTw
dtengineering
26-03-2007, 18:21
Good Luck to all teams! I'll be watching the webcast ! (There will be one right??! )
www.discoverychannel.ca/FIRST
It looks like something big is in the works for the webcast as it sounds like they are going to also be doing some hosted in-depth coverage as well as streaming the live video feed.
Just another reason why GTR rocks... especially in the Pontiac/Chevy dual playing field years!
Jason
Good luck to all and pray for us. We have a whole robot to program lol.
Good luck to all and pray for us. We have a whole robot to program lol.
JL and I (AH) are coming down on thursday morning. Depending on traffic and how much I want to abuse my rental car, we should be there at 8:50am-9:00am. We can help with the programming issue, but we better see some matches. I don't want to waste a day of potential schoolwork and never see you guys play.
Travis Hoffman
27-03-2007, 09:34
hahaha that would be a very cool match to watch as I did not get to see 1114 and 1503 together at waterloo. and I hear 48 and 772 are pretty good too :p
I think we tried to use autonomous to smash 48 and 772's atoms together at Buckeye a few times to form a 4 @ 12/6WD/tank tread hybrid, but it didn't quite work out.
Since everyone is curious whether or not 1114 and 1503 can pair up together in qualifying, let's play Figure Out The First Round Of GTR Qualifying Matches, shall we? This assumes the same scheduling algorithm will be used at GTR that has been used up to this point in the season, including at Buckeye. If by some miracle, FIRST can inject a new algorithm into their sorting routine, then none of this will be accurate. Kudos to the people who originally figured all this prediction stuff out - I didn't come up with any of this.
First of all, it appears 1114 and 1503 CAN play together (just barely). Good to know 1114 is a "mid-level" team and 1503 is "inexperienced" LOL. This also means 48 can end up playing with both of them. I like.
Second, I like that first alliance pairing. :D
Third, hey 48 pit crew, better have that bot ready for Match #1 AGAIN. :rolleyes:
VET MID ROOK
48 1006 1503
176 1053 1514
188 1075 1547
269 1112 1558
296 1114 1564
379 1141 1565
519 1219 1605
610 1221 1620
771 1241 1680
772 1246 1814
773 1281 1835
781 1305 1846
809 1310 1870
820 1312 1901
843 1325 2013
849 1334 2017
854 1346 2056
886 1353 2166
907 1392 2185
912 1404 2198
919 1482 2254
Match 1
48 1006 1503
176 1053 1514
Match 2
188 1075 1547
269 1112 1558
Match 3
296 1114 1564
379 1141 1565
Match 4
519 1219 1605
610 1221 1620
Match 5
771 1241 1680
772 1246 1814
Match 6
773 1281 1835
781 1305 1846
Match 7
809 1310 1870
820 1312 1901
Match 8
843 1325 2013
849 1334 2017
Match 9
854 1346 2056
886 1353 2166
Match 10
907 1392 2185
912 1404 2198
Match 11
919 1482 2254
??? ???? ????
astephen68
27-03-2007, 15:13
I think we tried to use autonomous to smash 48 and 772's atoms together at Buckeye a few times to form a 4 @ 12/6WD/tank tread hybrid, but it didn't quite work out.
Since everyone is curious whether or not 1114 and 1503 can pair up together in qualifying, let's play Figure Out The First Round Of GTR Qualifying Matches, shall we? This assumes the same scheduling algorithm will be used at GTR that has been used up to this point in the season, including at Buckeye. If by some miracle, FIRST can inject a new algorithm into their sorting routine, then none of this will be accurate. Kudos to the people who originally figured all this prediction stuff out - I didn't come up with any of this.
First of all, it appears 1114 and 1503 CAN play together (just barely). Good to know 1114 is a "mid-level" team and 1503 is "inexperienced" LOL. This also means 48 can end up playing with both of them. I like.
Second, I like that first alliance pairing. :D
Third, hey 48 pit crew, better have that bot ready for Match #1 AGAIN. :rolleyes:
VET MID ROOK
48 1006 1503
176 1053 1514
188 1075 1547
269 1112 1558
296 1114 1564
379 1141 1565
519 1219 1605
610 1221 1620
771 1241 1680
772 1246 1814
773 1281 1835
781 1305 1846
809 1310 1870
820 1312 1901
843 1325 2013
849 1334 2017
854 1346 2056
886 1353 2166
907 1392 2185
912 1404 2198
919 1482 2254
Match 1
48 1006 1503
176 1053 1514
Match 2
188 1075 1547
269 1112 1558
Match 3
296 1114 1564
379 1141 1565
Match 4
519 1219 1605
610 1221 1620
Match 5
771 1241 1680
772 1246 1814
Match 6
773 1281 1835
781 1305 1846
Match 7
809 1310 1870
820 1312 1901
Match 8
843 1325 2013
849 1334 2017
Match 9
854 1346 2056
886 1353 2166
Match 10
907 1392 2185
912 1404 2198
Match 11
919 1482 2254
??? ???? ????
What program did you use to do this can you send me a copy of it please
astephen68
27-03-2007, 15:15
Also how do they do it at the regionals can you explain to me please
That's not a program. The first round of matches aren't random. They split the total number of teams at the regional into three groupings like Travis has above. Then they pair the first set of vet/mid/rook with the next set of vet/mid/rook, and so on. The next round of matches and for the rest of the regional, the matches are "randomized".
astephen68
27-03-2007, 19:55
That's not a program. The first round of matches aren't random. They split the total number of teams at the regional into three groupings like Travis has above. Then they pair the first set of vet/mid/rook with the next set of vet/mid/rook, and so on. The next round of matches and for the rest of the regional, the matches are "randomized".
Allright Thank you very much, I thought they used a program or something.
astephen68
28-03-2007, 15:14
Everybody Ready for GTR. It's going to be a great regional!
Where's everyone? Please update on those of us who couldn't make it.
www.discoverychannel.ca/FIRST
It looks like something big is in the works for the webcast as it sounds like they are going to also be doing some hosted in-depth coverage as well as streaming the live video feed.
Just another reason why GTR rocks... especially in the Pontiac/Chevy dual playing field years!
Jason
When I open the link you provided, I get the Discovery chanel page, but the link on that page does not work.
When I open the link you provided, I get the Discovery chanel page, but the link on that page does not work.
I right clicked on link got it to open. It said we are not allowed to view it because we don't live in Canada. I will tried again tomorrow.
astephen68
29-03-2007, 21:42
Today was quite boring. I didn't see no ramps used in practice matches. I can't wait until tommarow LOL
Travis Hoffman
29-03-2007, 22:20
Today was quite boring. I didn't see no ramps used in practice matches. I can't wait until tommarow LOL
1901 climbed 48's ramp in one match, and 48 climbed 1114's ramp in another match when we were opposing each other - we just got finished beating each other up in the first session so we figured we'd cooperate during the 2nd :) .
Well thanks to Bongle up top our robot is in business. It drives, scores, and I'm pretty happy that we pulled it off...Our claw was a tad sketchy but we got it to work so it's all under control now. Time well spent (or wasted, if you consider the fact we missed all our practice matches, we got some time at the practice area though)
Sagar Vyas
29-03-2007, 23:08
48 will be in Niagara Falls on Wednesday from about 11:30 - 3:00. Area teams are welcome to come find us and say hi, unless it means skipping school and doing all kinds of truant things your mentors will not be happy about. :D Typically the kids are either at the Falls or up in the Clifton Hill area (you will find me further down the block away from the Falls at another establishment ;) ).
I guess we just missed you guys. Stopping on the way back?
379Robocat
30-03-2007, 03:14
Like BobC I also tried the link and it wouldn't let us access it because we don't live in canada. does anyone know anything about where we may be able to obtain a webcast other than the one on the nasa site?
Laura 1547
30-03-2007, 06:01
Correct me if I'm wrong but yesterday before my interview with discovery I asked them if it was going to be shown on the webcast. They told me that they weren't feeding a webcast yesterday and they were just rehearsing for Friday/Saturday webcasts/interviews. I think the link should work for everyone today though since its and "official webcasting" day.
Let me know!
astephen68
30-03-2007, 06:26
Like BobC I also tried the link and it wouldn't let us access it because we don't live in canada. does anyone know anything about where we may be able to obtain a webcast other than the one on the nasa site?
You go to here for the webcast from dicovery channel. http://discoverychannel.ca/
The link to watch it would be at the top alright
I have just spoken to my contact at Discovery Channel. Even if the site says that it is not available outside of Canada, it will be available. They will also be giving me a link if people are having problems. More to come
The link that I have been given is:
http://www.discoverychannel.ca/FIRST
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 09:06
The link that I have been given is:
http://www.discoverychannel.ca/FIRST
Those wanting to watch this - it doesn't seem to work in Firefox, so use IE to view the webcast.
Correct me if I'm wrong but yesterday before my interview with discovery I asked them if it was going to be shown on the webcast. They told me that they weren't feeding a webcast yesterday and they were just rehearsing for Friday/Saturday webcasts/interviews. I think the link should work for everyone today though since its and "official webcasting" day.
Let me know!
I just saw your interview on the webcast and i thought it was very good. Good luck for the rest of today and the rest of the weekend.
I'm curious what do people think of the Discovery Coverage?? I think it could be a good model for future TV coverage. They seem to have the right balance between matches, interviews, and video packages. Also it is not nearly as bad as what I might have been bracing for from NON-FIRST FIRST coverage. Compared with the ESPN coverage (back in the 95,96,97 era) Discovery is much better suited for something like FIRST I think and so far the seem to be doing an OK job.
I'd love to hear the thoughts of the FIRST community on this one,
Justin
Can someone at the event take a picture of the schedule and post it? I want to know when 'my' teams are on without having to intently watch the entire webcast.
edit: especially since discovery is running filler interviews when they are announcing teams.
edit2: Wow, 176 is unstoppable.
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 10:39
I think the coverage is interesting... it's a good balance of matches and commentary. Sometimes it's exhausting to watch match after match, but it does get annoying when I want to see a score and they cut away to do interviews or something. Luckily they are staying on top of updating the match results here:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/events/ON/matchresults.html
EDIT: wow, I just saw the match score on that site a good 30 seconds before they announced it on the field.
PS. you see that match with 2056 and 854 getting 276 points? I smell a new high score within the next couple days!
Yeah I think for FIRSTers this is not the ideal webcast we want to see scores, and all the other stuff we have come to know. But from a newbie perspective I think it would probably be pretty good.
Justin
http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/events/ON/matchresults.html
EDIT: wow, I just saw the match score on that site a good 30 seconds before they announced it on the field.
Yeah, I just saw another up astonishingly fast. That's good, a few other webcasts I've seen have had scores delayed up to 30 minutes.
The webcast is good (if a bit interlaced) and the interviews are growing on me.
They've had a few odd cuts though. During a match once, they cut from the match video to a video of a computer screen SHOWING the match video :confused:
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 11:02
WOW... 1114 188 and 1680 just put up 308 points BEFORE ramps!!!
edit: 338-4! crazy!! It was 3 vs 1 though.
338, is that a new high score?
Edit: the interview said that it is.
Edit2: Hahahaha, in a later match 1221 really settled a score with a ringer. I'm assuming something odd happened with their drivetrain, because they kept on running over a ringer that they got stuck on and popped.
that is the new high score
redbarron
30-03-2007, 11:36
Is it just me that is getting a webcast of the march 3 lunar eclipse when i click on the link for the webcast?
:ahh:
GTR definitly seems to be on a different level of competition then other regionals.. Just saw another score of 256, wow!
Ryan Dognaux
30-03-2007, 13:37
I've just tuned in, I'm really liking the discovery channel cut away coverage of interviewing the drivers and things like that. However, is it just me or is there like zero music playing during the matches through the webcast feed? Not to mention that the game announcer is lacking in enthusiasm, so the matches themselves seem to be pretty boring at the moment. Karthik of course kicks it up a notch but things seem a bit slow, maybe it's just me though.
I've just tuned in, I'm really liking the discovery channel cut away coverage of interviewing the drivers and things like that. However, is it just me or is there like zero music playing during the matches through the webcast feed? Not to mention that the game announcer is lacking in enthusiasm, so the matches themselves seem to be pretty boring at the moment. Karthik of course kicks it up a notch but things seem a bit slow, maybe it's just me though.
My guess on the music:
Discovery doesn't have the rights to broadcast the music played at a FIRST event. This isn't an issue for the NASA webcasts since NASA is a government institution and isn't profiting from the webcasts, whereas discovery is profiting from the ads placed around the webcast box.
I've just tuned in, I'm really liking the discovery channel cut away coverage of interviewing the drivers and things like that. However, is it just me or is there like zero music playing during the matches through the webcast feed? Not to mention that the game announcer is lacking in enthusiasm, so the matches themselves seem to be pretty boring at the moment. Karthik of course kicks it up a notch but things seem a bit slow, maybe it's just me though.
I have been having vocal issues. I lost my voice and am trying to adapt. Right now I am on break and Charles Offor is doing a great job filling. Hope to get back today but not sure. Darn Colds.
dachickindapit
30-03-2007, 13:53
Is it just my computer, or is the sound level really low? I have my computer on full volume and can still barely hear anything.
Ryan Dognaux
30-03-2007, 13:53
I have been having vocal issues. I lost my voice and am trying to adapt. Right now I am on break and Charles Offor is doing a great job filling. Hope to get back today but not sure. Darn Colds.
I hear you about the cold, I've got one myself right now. Charles is doing a good job though, it's really the lack of music through the webcast that is bringing the energy down but I didn't think about Discovery not having the rights to play the music, which makes sense.
Jeff Rodriguez
30-03-2007, 13:57
I have been having vocal issues. I lost my voice and am trying to adapt. Right now I am on break and Charles Offor is doing a great job filling. Hope to get back today but not sure. Darn Colds.
Charles is doing a decent job.
When I first heard him, I thought is was Greg Proops. ;)
The music you hear is ambient music. The voices should be better. The reason is that they are not licenced for the music therefore they cannot broadcast such.
192 online watching when I just checked.
I agree about the music but I sympathize with Discovery for not having the royalties, it would a pretty hard task for them to track down the rights to whatever songs might be played. I was surprised though at how the lack of music does bring things down especially when it is one of those things we typically just take for granted. I think Discovery has been doing a valiant job with their coverage though I hope people are watching because watching teams try to explain what the heck an alliance is or pickings, etc. you can quickly see how outsiders may become lost quickly there are some lessons to be learned there I think. I have to wonder if the host Lori had any idea what she was getting herself int the middle of, as many of us know FIRST is not something that you can truly 'get' until you experience it. I will be curious to see if she makes any comments after the competition on her experiences.
-Justin
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 14:38
The coverage back home may be a little blah but here it's absolutely amazing - the kids are hamming it up for the cameras, and it's probably the most vocal and loud Friday crowd I've seen in quite a while. The regional committee and the Discovery Channel have really outdone themselves with this one.
But why, oh why, does Karthik get so much face time???? :D
And the American teams sure would like to have our feelings on the event broadcast live *shameless request for attention*. :)
Wooooo!! 1565 with a semi-coherent interview on the webcast!
Also, props to 1565 for putting up 5-6 ringers by themselves (well, really with their alliance partners blocking) in their last match. 1565 really is a team where you don't want to judge by ranking alone.
Edit: On that note, as of 2:44PM, 1565 has the 7th-highest RP in the regional, despite being 62nd. Poor 1565 :(
Can anyone post the schedule of matches for the Toronto Regional? I am at work and unfortunately do not have the luxury of watching every match :-)
Thanks.
You can also email me the schedule to chiefdelphi.20.azx2@spamgourmet.com
Heretic121
30-03-2007, 14:55
um did i just see 1114 scoring for the other alliance!?!?
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 15:01
um did i just see 1114 scoring for the other alliance!?!?
They are tied in wins-losses with 2056 right now (5-0) so ranking points (depends on losing score) are going to make the difference until one of them loses.
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 15:06
The music you hear is ambient music. The voices should be better. The reason is that they are not licenced for the music therefore they cannot broadcast such.
I like being able to hear the crowd :).
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 15:09
They are tied in wins-losses with 2056 right now (5-0) so ranking points (depends on losing score) are going to make the difference until one of them loses.
And who will be the opposing alliance that will help them break that tie? Is there anyone here who can pull that off? We shall see. :D
FYI, 1114 received a 10-point penalty for scoring for the opposition, but obviously they had enough offensive points where the penalty didn't matter.
By the way, one hundred million billion negative kudos to the match generating algorithm system....again.
They are tied in wins-losses with 2056 right now (5-0) so ranking points (depends on losing score) are going to make the difference until one of them loses.
It is illegal to score tubes for the opposition.
<G21> SCORING for opponents - ROBOTS may not HANG a GAME PIECE of an opposing ALLIANCE. If this rule is violated a 10-point penalty will be assessed per infraction. If the ROBOT HANGS a KEEPER of from the opposing ALLIANCE, it will be ignored when determining the score. If the ROBOT HANGS a RINGER on an otherwise empty Spider Leg, it will be SCORED as if it were placed there by the opposing ALLIANCE.
Was a penalty assessed? (If you score enough points, I'm sure you'll gladly take a 10 point penalty to boost your oppositions score)
And the American teams sure would like to have our feelings on the event broadcast live *shameless request for attention*. :)
Well maybe we can hope that someone from Discovery USA is checking out this stream and views it as an opportunity. I'd like to see coverage like this of at least Saturday of Atlanta on the Discovery cable channel in the US (ya pipe dream I know, but hey we can dream right). I have to say again I think this coverage is a lot more faithful to FIRST than other attempts at TV coverage I have seen in the past. Also it is live which is a big plus back when ESPN use to do their thing nationals would be in April and you would have to wait until July or later to see them on ESPN. In terms of the Canada centricness remember that in Canada their are laws governing such things, although it would be cool for them to talk to one American team. I also thought it was interesting that the URL they gave out was the Canada FIRST site as opposed to USFIRST.org. It has been educational though to see how things are done up in Canada.
-Justin
In terms of the Canada centricness remember that in Canada their are laws governing such things, although it would be cool for them to talk to one American team. I also thought it was interesting that the URL they gave out was the Canada FIRST site as opposed to USFIRST.org. It has been educational though to see how things are done up in Canada.
-Justin
The only law that could possibly govern something like this would be the CanCon laws that mandate a certain # of hours of Canadian-produced content (approx 30% of broadcasted content). They only apply to broadcast TV, not webcasts. A Canadian program can certainly interview Americans if they want to.
The lack of Americans on the webcast is probably because of the lack of Americans at this regional compared to past years.
I just remembered that they interviewed an american team from Connecticut, for whom this was their 3rd regional. Forget the team though.
same problem as someone else posted with the webcast- i keep getting the lunar eclipse webcast D:
Ricky Q.
30-03-2007, 15:44
Webcast is still working great:
http://www.ctvdigital.com/discovery/first/player.html
Webcast is still working great:
http://www.ctvdigital.com/discovery/first/player.html
Same lunar eclipse vid for me too.
Can u link us with the actual video feed link please? For example when I go on this page the video that loads has this feed link:
mms://a180.v31560.c31560.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/180/31560/44ce8bb3/fs6.insinc.com/akamai/ctv/discovery/lunareclipse07
I guess thats the lunar eclipse, thus not what we want. To get that video feed link you will need to right-click on the video and go on to the properties. It will be great if any of you who can see the video can do this and post it here.
Thanks! :)
Heretic121
30-03-2007, 15:51
It is illegal to score tubes for the opposition.
<G21> SCORING for opponents - ROBOTS may not HANG a GAME PIECE of an opposing ALLIANCE. If this rule is violated a 10-point penalty will be assessed per infraction. If the ROBOT HANGS a KEEPER of from the opposing ALLIANCE, it will be ignored when determining the score. If the ROBOT HANGS a RINGER on an otherwise empty Spider Leg, it will be SCORED as if it were placed there by the opposing ALLIANCE.
Was a penalty assessed? (If you score enough points, I'm sure you'll gladly take a 10 point penalty to boost your oppositions score)
Yes a 10pt penalty was assesed... BUT...
i belive they scored 2 tubes for the other alliance so i thought it would have been 20pts of penaltys...
*final score was 250-8
the webcast sometimes shows a lunar eclipse if you are using Firefox...I would try using the same link but on Internet Explorer.
Ricky Q.
30-03-2007, 15:56
IE has been working the best for me:
http://www.ctvdigital.com/discovery/first/first.asx
Ricky Q.
30-03-2007, 16:08
48 just played some killer defense on 1114 but the blue alliance still dominated in ringers.
No one got up 48's ramps, 1114 remains undefeated.
at last an American Interview. Go Donnell...o' Capn' Saftey.:)
neilsonster
30-03-2007, 16:27
And the American teams sure would like to have our feelings on the event broadcast live *shameless request for attention*. :)
There you go, someone from 48 was just interviewed in the pits!
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 17:02
There you go, someone from 48 was just interviewed in the pits!
Maybe Discovery Canada lurks on CD? :D
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 17:05
Congrats Karthik on GTR Volunteer of the Year!
Mr. Breadner - it's K-A-N-A-G-A-S-A-B-A-P-A-T-H-Y.
Ka-na-gas-a-bap-a-thy.
Tis not (that) hard!
Richard Wallace
30-03-2007, 17:39
Congrats Karthik on GTR Volunteer of the Year!
Mr. Breadner - it's K-A-N-A-G-A-S-A-B-A-P-A-T-H-Y.
Ka-na-gas-a-bap-a-thy.
Tis not (that) hard!More congratulations to Karthik! Well earned!
For some reason my screen froze up before they got to the Friday awards, but I did see the day's last qualifying match -- in which 1114 remained undefeated. 2056 looks like a good bet to stay that way also. I have enjoyed watching the incredible offensive power displayed by those two teams.
As we saw last week, expect the defenders to get serious tomorrow. (Psst, Travis -- this includes 48. :) ) Will we see a repeat of Waterloo, where scoring by the mighty tubers was muted in the finals?
Can someone post the Friday award winners here please?
Richard Wallace
30-03-2007, 17:44
Can someone post the Friday award winners here please?They are here (http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/events/ON/awards.html).
edit: copying for convenience
Outstanding Volunteer Award Karthik Kanagasabapathy
Imagery Award 773 Kingsville Kukes Kingsville, ON, Canada
Rockwell Automation Innovation in Control Award 1075 Sinclair Sprockets Whitby, ON, Canada
Xerox Creativity Award 610 Crescent Robotics Toronto, ON, Canada
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award 1241 GMCL & Rick Hansen SS Mississauga, ON, Canada
Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Entrepreneurship Award 772 Sabre Bytes Robotics LaSalle, ON, Canada
Judges Award 1514 WHCI Robotics Toronto, ON, Canada
Website Award 188 Woburn Robotics Toronto, ON, Canada
Woodie Flowers Award Mark Breadner
Autodesk Visualization Award 849 UHS WOLFPACK Unionville, ON, Canada
/edit
edit2: can someone explain why no team number is shown next to Mark Breadner's name? /edit2
PatrickN
30-03-2007, 18:04
can someone explain why no team number is shown next to Mark Breadner's name?
I know for sure that Mark Breadner was nominated by team 188. However it would not surprise me at all if he was also nominated by another team or several other teams. Perhaps there is no team number next to his name because we've lost count of the number of teams that he is directly or indirectly responsible for starting in some way. It's about time he received a WFFA and he's surely a strong contender for the WFA at the championship event. I'm sure there'll be more congratulatory posts from people that have been around longer than I have, who can better emphasize the effect Mark Breadner has had on FIRST in Canada.
Anyways, Congratulations (Mr.) Breadner!!!
Woodie Flowers Award: Mark Breadner
can someone explain why no team number is shown next to Mark Breadner's name?
The answer to ME is simple... there would be too many to list :p . The GTR, and even FIRST in Canada will forever be known as the house that Breadner(s) built. And I mention that to recognize the incredible efforts of Rhona Breadner, and even the Breadner kids as well! Rhona is so humble that many do not realize just how integral she is to our program here north of the border - FRC, VEX, FLL and even future things I cannot yet speak of ;).
But Mr. Breadner's history extends across a pleathora of teams all across the nation. If you wanted to get technical though I believe Mr. Breadner has really only been directly involved as a mentor with one team - 188.
Richard Wallace
30-03-2007, 18:20
Woodie Flowers Award: Mark Breadner
can someone explain why no team number is shown next to Mark Breadner's name?
I know for sure that Mark Breadner was nominated by team 188. However it would not surprise me at all if he was also nominated by another team or several other teams. ...
The answer to ME is simple... there would be too many to list :p . The GTR, and even FIRST in Canada will forever be known as the house that Breadner(s) built. ...Thanks for the explanations. Many of us have known for several years now that FIRST is strong in Canada. Now we all know a little more about the reasons for that.
If you look on Some of the other regional awards listings they don't post the WFA winners team number either.
Richard Wallace
30-03-2007, 18:32
If you look on Some of the other regional awards listings they don't post the WFA winners team number either.Yeah, you're right -- except at St. Louis (http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/events/MO/awards.html) where we goofed and posted the team number and name instead of the mentor's name. :o
Good day today. Our team didn't get a chance to show off our arm as every alliance wanted us to play defense. Tomorrow however, our first match we will be the only scorer
Congrats to Mr. Breadner!
Hope to see you and team 188 in ATL this year!
Oh, and Congrats to Karthik too!
Rohith Surampudi
30-03-2007, 18:49
Congrats Mr.Breadner!
and Congrats Karthik!
Elgin Clock
30-03-2007, 18:50
Congratulations Karthik!! What a very deserving honor! Keep up the awesome work for all you do for FIRST and the people in it who look up to you. :)
And while I don't know Mark personally, It seems his role in FIRST is equally as impressive as Karthik's. Congratulations to you as well!
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 19:11
Mark Breadner is one of the awesomest people in FIRST, but he's also unfortunately one of the most unknown relative to his contributions. Ever since we took the plunge to go to the inaugural Canadian Regional in 2002, 48 has consistently been amazed by the Herculean efforts Mark and his family (along with the countless other notable volunteers up north) have poured into developing FIRST in Canada. He and his staff have always made us and all the other American teams feel most welcome at their event, and this has continued with the passing of the torch to Vance Scott and now Karen Rosenthal. The Canadian regionals are the best planned, staffed, and executed events in all of FIRST (they even give IRI a run for their money :D ), and no other event can match the fun and excitement buzzing through the building, especially on Saturday. Mark is one of the people who've been there all along, guiding FIRST in Canada to the success it is today.
Mark, congratulations, and thanks again for all the wonderful memories you and your family have helped bring to Team 48 over the years.
Travis Hoffman
30-03-2007, 19:14
More congratulations to Karthik! Well earned!
For some reason my screen froze up before they got to the Friday awards, but I did see the day's last qualifying match -- in which 1114 remained undefeated. 2056 looks like a good bet to stay that way also. I have enjoyed watching the incredible offensive power displayed by those two teams.
As we saw last week, expect the defenders to get serious tomorrow. (Psst, Travis -- this includes 48. :) ) Will we see a repeat of Waterloo, where scoring by the mighty tubers was muted in the finals?
I think tomorrow we will play defense on 1114 while we're partnered with them just to even up the odds a bit. You know, help push em into a corner, limit them to maybe 4-5 ringers. Maybe 4 vs. 2 would make it a fairer fight against these guys? :) :rolleyes:
Karthik and Derek, if you read this, picture me with a big grin on my face as I unleash a maniacal "MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......" wicked laugh of doom as I speak the above. :D
How disrespectful of me to not say this in the previous post :o :)
Congratulations Karthik! You really deserved it, if only everyone was as devoted as you are.
Setsanto
30-03-2007, 19:25
Really great day guys! Well done to Karthik and Mr Breadner, u guys deserved it! 1334 somehow managed to squek into 5th place today :yikes: . Tomorrow we have two mediocre matches, none of them especially difficult, sow ith luck, well be top 8 :) .
~Nick/1334
Richard Wallace
30-03-2007, 21:24
I think tomorrow we will play defense on 1114 while we're partnered with them just to even up the odds a bit. ...Travis, I would double-dog dare you guys to do that -- except for two things: (1) it wouldn't be fair to make your third alliance partner play 1-on-3 while 48 and 1114 spar in the corner, and (2) stopping 1114 for one match might not significantly effect the overall event results, anyway.
Travis Hoffman
31-03-2007, 00:55
Travis, I would double-dog dare you guys to do that -- except for two things: (1) it wouldn't be fair to make your third alliance partner play 1-on-3 while 48 and 1114 spar in the corner, and (2) stopping 1114 for one match might not significantly effect the overall event results, anyway.
Yes indeed....but it sure would be funny - Run away! Run away!
The trick to defending 1114....any strong offensive bot, really....is to defend their entire alliance appropriately, which requires the appropriate partners who are inclined to play the appropriate style of defense with the necessary communication. It can be done; the question is, will it? Tune into the Discovery Channel webcast on Saturday to find out!
Nawaid Ladak
31-03-2007, 01:13
Congrats Karthik, maybe one day i will become as well known as you, i've heard good things about you all the way down here in Florida.
If your as passionate off the feild as you are on the feild announcing at Waterloo and GTR, then everyone else gots some catching up to do.
It would be an honor to meet you and Derek (Congratulations to him for winning the WFA at Waterloo) at Championships.
You guys celebrate the TRUE sprit of FIRST, and i thank both of you for that
astephen68
31-03-2007, 06:40
We had a good day yesterday ending up in 26th. Today will be great Can't wait until Playoffs. Good job every team that won awards yesterday!!!
Good luck today to 1141, 1281, and 1565!
I also want to point out to any teams that scouted 1565 in waterloo and deemed them unreliable and highly defendable: They haven't had a single breakdown, they've scored 3-6 ringers consistently in all their matches, and their drivers have gained enough skill to deke out defenders. They would make a good 'diamond in the rough' pick that would be overlooked by other teams going by ranking.
Edit: Come to think of it, any scouts out there probably won't be on CD until tonight, when it's all over. ... :(
1565 FOR THE WIN!!! 51-38
I'm pretty sure that my favorite quote of the competition will be from one of the pre-taped things on the discovery channel:
"This robot isn't preparing for baywatch, but ..."
Nawaid Ladak
31-03-2007, 09:26
Just noticed that GTR did BOTH the Canadian and US National Anthum
why don't they do the Canadian national anthem at US regionals where Canadian teams are attending. or this should go for any other team at any other regional.
Just noticed that GTR did BOTH the Canadian and US National Anthum
why don't they do the Canadian national anthem at US regionals where Canadian teams are attending. or this should go for any other team at any other regional.
Usually they do
Anyone having connection issues? It was working 5 minutes ago, but it stopped, and refreshing/reopening the page isn't working.
Firefox gets me the lunar eclipse page.
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 09:46
I get "No Video Streams Currently Available". :(
All of our DSL's dropped. Should be OK now
Elgin Clock
31-03-2007, 09:47
Anyone having connection issues? It was working 5 minutes ago, but it stopped, and refreshing/reopening the page isn't working.
Firefox gets me the lunar eclipse page.
If by "Lunar Eclipse", you mean a Pontiac commercial constantly on loop, and then stream errors.. then yes.. Aye... Very annoying.
Can anyone verify the Webcast is actually running right now?
edit: OMG!!!!!!! I CONNECTED FINALLY!!! First time in 3 days!!!! Aye...
Working for me again. Thanks Steve!
Travis Hoffman
31-03-2007, 09:51
If by "Lunar Eclipse", you mean a Pontiac commercial constantly on loop, and then stream errors.. then yes.. Aye... Very annoying.
MUST.....BUY....G6.......
MUST.....BUY....G6.......
I have the PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GXP
303 HP V8
Black
All accessories
NICE
Blatant plug
I have the PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GXP
303 HP V8
Black
All accessories
Yeah, well on thursday I rented a 2007 HONDA FIT automatic:
~100hp I4
0-60 time measured in decades
Black
Cool foldy seats in the back
On a webcast-y note, I'm finding that the pre-taped interviews in the pits are having no sound. Or the sound is so ridiculously quiet that I can't hear it when I have the volume set right for the matches.
I have made them aware. It seems that they might have a hardware issue and are now working on it.
Whoa, here's a semi-shocking statistic:
Average score for red: 40
Average score for blue: 30
Are there any bright lights in Blue's face?
This piece about Where's Waldo has sound at the correct volume.
Edit: And 2056 is now the ONLY undefeated robot at GTR, as 1114 succumbs to drivetrain difficulties (apparently)
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 11:01
Steve, I just caught a glimpse of you on the webcast -- the coif is in fine form, I must say! :cool:
Whoa, here's a semi-shocking statistic:
Average score for red: 40
Average score for blue: 30
Are there any bright lights in Blue's face?
This piece about Where's Waldo has sound at the correct volume.
Edit: And 2056 is now the ONLY undefeated robot at GTR, as 1114 succumbs to drivetrain difficulties (apparently)
It seems that 1114 had a radio problem that no reason was found.
Tip: If the webcast goes all slideshow on you, just press stop and start, rather than refreshing the page.
Hooray for 2 of my teams (1141 and 1565) beating another of my teams (1281) in the 2nd last match!
And congrats to 1141 for steadily climbing the ranks to #12! They might get to pick for the first time in their history!
edit: #13 final position!
It seems that 1114 had a radio problem that no reason was found.
Talk about tense are you nervous on tv?
Good job Steve!!!
Talk about tense are you nervous on tv?
Good job Steve!!!
Like ya. They were after me all day. Finally had to say yes.
Nawaid Ladak
31-03-2007, 11:47
here we do, just like waterloo
:) :) :)
JamesBrown
31-03-2007, 12:01
I am not sure but that looked suspiciously like an alliance selection where every one actually knew what they were doing, I am impressed. Every one at least had a pick list.
Also is it just me or does every one love Where's Waldo?
Does anyone have a list of the alliances? I'm guessing 2056 went with 1114 and 1334 with 854.
Does anyone have a list of the alliances? I'm guessing 2056 went with 1114 and 1334 with 854.
seed pick1 pick2
2056 1114 176
1334 610 2166
1305 854 1241
1312 296 1141
1846 1503 188
1901 772 1680
1006 379 48
1404 1482 773
It's pretty crazy after going to waterloo, when you read the 2nd-pick list for GTR and realize that they are all very effective robots. 176, 48, 1680 are all SECOND picks. That's crazy.
Heretic121
31-03-2007, 13:13
Karthik + Strategy = Great TV \m/...
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 13:49
Nice TV interview on the 48 control system. Clever, naming your ramp deploy switch the "Viagra button". :cool:
Nawaid Ladak
31-03-2007, 13:53
sf 1.1 and sf 1.2 should be GREAT
Nice TV interview on the 48 control system. Clever, naming your ramp deploy switch the "Viagra button". :cool:
That was a joke from the mentors...I didn't think they would actually do it...lol:D
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 14:01
QF3-2 = awesome match. :)
QF3-3 = another one. :D DEE-Fence is rearing its head ...
This regional is intense. Will the alliance #1 be able to win? Or will there be a surprise like at the GLR? We will know soon ;)
Nawaid Ladak
31-03-2007, 14:30
that rack was packed up in that match, as i predicted sf 1.1 was GREAT
Elgin Clock
31-03-2007, 14:55
Nice TV interview on the 48 control system. Clever, naming your ramp deploy switch the "Viagra button". :cool:
That was a joke from the mentors...I didn't think they would actually do it...lol:D
LMAO!!!! Did you win a technical award for that?? I sooo want to see that name for it called out in the next FIRST: Behind the Design book. lol :p
And.. w00t! I hear some techno bagpipe music!! LOL YAY! GTR always has the best music IMHO. lol
Jeff Rodriguez
31-03-2007, 15:26
I have to give some props to Karthik for that awesome commentary. That was as good as any sports commentator. I hope Discovery continues to cover events with this format. So far, I've loved it.
Great job everybody, I loved watching this broadcast, the Discovery Channel really knows how to do it!
I particularly enjoyed watching the alliance of 1006, 379, and 48. Seeing teams gun up ELITE's ramp brought back chills from the Buckeye regional (291, 48, 379).
As exciting as the matches were, the highlight in my mind has to be 48's interview on their control system, I was behind the lexan with 48 all throughout Buckeye eliminations and I never noticed the "Viagra Button" :ahh: .
Great job to everyone who competed and to everyone who helpd make the regional and broadcast happen!
Spider-Man
31-03-2007, 15:37
Is it me or did the webcast just skip the first finals match? The FIRST website has Red winning 126-62.
Is it me or did the webcast just skip the first finals match? The FIRST website has Red winning 126-62.
I missed it also.
yes it did...It kinda caught up a little....it sucks that they skipped it though.
the webcast caught up to the chart...the chart was ahead by a good 7 minutes...you could see who won way before the match was cast.
Heretic121
31-03-2007, 15:45
Congrats 2056, 1114, 176!!!!
crazy stuff...
Discovery Channel... great job... maybe Karthik needs to get in touch with them to be thier man host ;)
Spider-Man
31-03-2007, 15:45
There needs to be a Canadian Crown or something similar to the Triple Crown for Waterloo and Toronto...:cool:
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 15:46
Is it me or did the webcast just skip the first finals match? The FIRST website has Red winning 126-62.
I missed it also.Same from where I saw it.
Same from where I saw it.
I missed the first finals match too.. All the sudden people were taking stuff off the field :(
Congratulations to 1114, 2056, and 176 for winning the regional, see you guys in Atlanta.
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 17:16
Congratulations to 771 on the regional Chairman's Award. :) A great program, having a great year with the win at Waterloo last week and now this well deserved recognition.
(I am wondering how, during their otherwise excellent webcast, Discovery Channel Canada missed the opportunity to interview some of your team? Maybe I just missed it?)
Congratulations to 771 on the regional Chairman's Award
Where's the party at? :p
Congratulations!
astephen68
31-03-2007, 19:05
Good Job 771 for winning the Chairmn's award. Good Job
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 21:29
Where's the party at? :pThe party must still be going on -- 771 doesn't have far to drive to get home from Mississauga.
I hope they're partying, because they've earned it! Good luck finding them. :D
Travis Hoffman
31-03-2007, 22:08
Nice TV interview on the 48 control system. Clever, naming your ramp deploy switch the "Viagra button". :cool:
Figures, out of all the things we've said over the years in support of FIRST in Canada, the one thing that gets aired on live webcast TV is our "Viagra Button". :p
I only put that on there after the kids nagged me to do it and I finally started to think it was funny. :D By the way, the kid interviewed was our OUTSTANDING driver, Johnny Pasco, who still never ceases to amaze me with his relentless ability to stick to robots like glue. I know he had Greg Phillips from 1114 scared. I wish we could have set up the offense vs. defense matchup I was hoping for. Stupid tread....:o
Congrats to all winners - it was a great event!
Richard Wallace
31-03-2007, 22:18
... Stupid tread....:o "For the want of a nail, the shoe was lost; for the want of a shoe the horse was lost; and for the want of a horse the rider was lost, being overtaken and slain by the enemy, all for the want of care about a horseshoe nail." -- Benjamin Franklin (usually attributed)
Travis Hoffman
31-03-2007, 22:34
"For the want of a nail, the shoe was lost; for the want of a shoe the horse was lost; and for the want of a horse the rider was lost, being overtaken and slain by the enemy, all for the want of care about a horseshoe nail." -- Benjamin Franklin (usually attributed)
I have no idea what caused it - it was a clean, straight rip all the way through. We checked the tension of the treads between each match and it hadn't changed. We were pushed sideways a bit when the offenders fought back a bit in earlier matches - maybe that was the start of it? Oh well, considering other teams' issues with Brecoflex over the years, I like the success we've achieved with them.
Alex Cormier
01-04-2007, 11:37
I have no idea what caused it - it was a clean, straight rip all the way through. We checked the tension of the treads between each match and it hadn't changed. We were pushed sideways a bit when the offenders fought back a bit in earlier matches - maybe that was the start of it? Oh well, considering other teams' issues with Brecoflex over the years, I like the success we've achieved with them.
i knew the belts were going to fail soon on you guys when i saw your driver try to turn into the bot that was pushng on your side for the entire match, a few matches earlier. When it happened i was not surprised but thought, i shoulda come down and told you. O well stuff happens and the regional was great to see and all. a lot less of a drive then others i knew to get home too.:p ;)
First I'd like to congratulate 771 on receiving the Chairman's award.
I'd also like to thank teams 2056 and 1114 for choosing us to be a part of their alliance. We worked very well together.
Does anyone know if we can get a hold of that video they showed at the beginning of the elimination rounds.
Jonathan Norris
01-04-2007, 12:46
Does anyone know if we can get a hold of that video they showed at the beginning of the elimination rounds.
I can probably get you a copy of the video.
I am working on splitting up all the matches from GTR, and will try and get the eliminations up as soon as I can... but a month of robotics means I have a little bit of school work to catch up on :ahh:, so I may not get all the matches up for a week or so.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/movies/on/
Vince lau
01-04-2007, 13:20
wow what an amazing regional, every team did a great job through out the whole weekend.
Congratulations to the winning alliance 2056, 1114, 176
2056 - wow #1 seed for a rookie team, 2 regional wins, great job guys.
1114 - thanks for lending us your tools all weekend, and Congratulations on your second regional win
176 - hope you had fun at GTR and come back next year
771 - Congratulations on winning the CA well deserved
1305 - our pit neighbours, bus mates last year to Atlanta, you guys and an amazing run at both Waterloo and GTR and both times fell short of winning it.
2166 - great ramp bot and congratulations on winning the Rookie All Star Award
TwIsTeD2
01-04-2007, 16:14
I would Like to thank team 48 for helping us with programing and giving us the dongle it was really neat getting the robot to work on its own
Are first year at First it was great we came 20 out of 63 our robot was so ghetto. we only spent 400$ on top of the start up costs
Laura 1547
01-04-2007, 21:37
I just want to say a HUGE thank you to everyone who made GTR amazing (as usual) this year. It was so much fun. Can't wait till next year!!!
I want to give a huge congrats to 2056, 1114, and 176 on their outstanding job at the regional. You guys were crazy!!! Never a boring moment.
I also want to give a big congrats to 771. You guys really deserved chairmans. Have fun in Atlanta!!! Kayla you have to call me every day!!!
Just a note...does anybody know where the video of 1547's interview is? I never actually got a chance to see it besides part of it on a little moniter before I got interviewed...
BiTurboS4
01-04-2007, 21:38
Congrats to 176 for their first win out of the country! :)
astephen68
02-04-2007, 08:06
I want to wish all the candian teams Good Luck to whoever is going down to Atlanta, WIn it for CANADA!!!!!!!!
MChapman
02-04-2007, 08:15
I just wanted to say GTR was an awesome experience for myself, as well as the rest of 176. Big thanks to 2056 and 1114 for picking us! I could not believe we were chosen, but it was great! :D Thanks so much in believing in us!
Big contrats to team 771 for Chairmans. You guys deserved it, and best of luck in Atl. I'm sure we'll see you down there....Kayla i'll come find you! ;)
Again GTR was great!
176 has an amazing ability to do well.. in all my years in first, I never give them the credit they are due, but they get it done time and time again. I still don't understand their successes this year (WWZ Champs, UTC #1 seed, UTC Finalists, GTR Champs), but that won't stop me from saying congrats to them. Best of luck at the Championships.
desi_technology
02-04-2007, 08:59
GTR was by far the coolest regional we went to i think. Everyone on the team really had a blast, great venue with plenty of space to expand!!! Also a big thank you goes out to 2056 and 1114 for picking us:D We had a great time driving with u guys in the eliminations
astephen68
02-04-2007, 12:06
I just wanted to say GTR was an awesome experience for myself, as well as the rest of 176. Big thanks to 2056 and 1114 for picking us! I could not believe we were chosen, but it was great! :D Thanks so much in believing in us!
Big contrats to team 771 for Chairmans. You guys deserved it, and best of luck in Atl. I'm sure we'll see you down there....Kayla i'll come find you! ;)
Again GTR was great!
Good Luck in Atlanta and Your alliance was great. You guys are good hopefully you guys pair up in Atlanta LOL
I can probably get you a copy of the video.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/movies/on/
I see the summary video is up now. I see our robot twice in it. Someone put a pile of work into the edit. Do all 63 robots appear at some point?
Discovery Channel has an archive up now. Not all matches there yet but they say this week. Also some extras.
http://www.discoverychannel.ca/reports/article.aspx?aid=329
Not sure if it will work in the US but I sure hope so.
Jonathan Norris
08-04-2007, 18:20
Discovery Channel has an archive up now. Not all matches there yet but they say this week. Also some extras.
http://www.discoverychannel.ca/reports/article.aspx?aid=329
Not sure if it will work in the US but I sure hope so.
I am in the states right now and it doesn't work :(
I guess soap has been really busy. It sucks cause I rely on there video feed for my promotion videos :rolleyes:
Jonathan Norris
08-04-2007, 19:54
I guess soap has been really busy. It sucks cause I rely on there video feed for my promotion videos :rolleyes:
I have about 70% of the video cut up... but SOAP's storage got filled up, so they are waiting on their provider to boost their storage. I uploaded what I have to TBA archives and they should show up there soon enough.
oh I see its a space issue. That sucks. oh well I was going to say, if you guys didn't have the time, I would cut the video for you guys.. but its a space thing so nevermind lol :D
Chris Marra
08-04-2007, 21:51
Speaking of which, I am currently transferring the GTR qualifiers into the TBATV system, Johnathon has sent me matches 28-84, and the flash files are also encoding, so most of this ought to be up tommorow.
wow.. sweet.. I guess I spoke too soon lol. Just say the word if you guys need any help. You guys are my footage bin for getting new members lol.
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