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Post a picture of what you think is the best wired robot
Team 2200:
2007 rookie year, 5 days after kickoff.
http://www.mmrambotics.ca/robot/10.JPG
http://www.mmrambotics.ca/robot/11.JPG
John Gutmann
13-01-2007, 22:27
You wiring is pretty tidy. But I would say you should do something about that drive shaft just floating there. You should probally put in a bearing block there.....
Dan Petrovic
13-01-2007, 22:31
do you plan on driving all four wheels? Those kit wheels are pretty grippy and it doesn't look like you'll have an easy time turning.
im going to do basic wiring hopefully tomorrow
i will post a pic then
/forest
Greg Needel
13-01-2007, 22:41
Some of my favorites from past years...
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/a73/a7332f80dbafa58a86375d142f36a343_l.jpg
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/b1f/b1f31191566f6461f94291b3e18c7587_m.jpg
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/e1d/e1d929508e74407b55ff4280afd5b14b_m.jpg
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/717/7177c41c156c6efa4376773c5f1f2d35_m.jpg
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/545/545255c5b8619d3e34fc404ac6c430dd_m.jpg
ChuckDickerson
13-01-2007, 23:01
Greg, do you know what that black (plastic?) material is in the first pic? Where do you get it? What are the specs, thickness, weight, etc.?
We have always used plywood for our electronics board because it is cheap, easy to cut and screw stuff to and also non-conductive incase someone makes a mistake and drops a screw/wire/etc. I would like to try something new and lighter this year. Does anyone have a favorite material they can recommend?
Greg, do you know what that black (plastic?) material is in the first pic? Where do you get it? What are the specs, thickness, weight, etc.?
We have always used plywood for our electronics board because it is cheap, easy to cut and screw stuff to and also non-conductive incase someone makes a mistake and drops a screw/wire/etc. I would like to try something new and lighter this year. Does anyone have a favorite material they can recommend?Judging by the background, I'd say you might want to ask 254. The fact that there are 2 indicates a second robot--also pointing to 254. Then again, I could be wrong.
Post a picture of what you think is the best wired robot
Team 2200:
2007 rookie year, 5 days after kickoff.
http://www.mmrambotics.ca/robot/11.JPG
No DIN Rails?
AdamHeard
14-01-2007, 04:00
Since you guys are not powering the front wheels, you should probably swap them out for something with less traction.
The Andymark 6" Omnis (http://www.andymark.biz/am-0013.html) would work well.
Also, the rules aren't exactly clear, but it looks as though the DIN rails are required. Check the best practices and the electronics manual linked under section 8 of the manual on the usfirst site.
Also, those panels posted above with the white wires are 254's.
Travis Covington
14-01-2007, 05:23
do you know what that black (plastic?) material is in the first pic? Where do you get it? What are the specs, thickness, weight, etc.?
1/4" ABS Plastic is what you see there. Available pretty much anywhere. We got ours from McMaster. It is about the nicest, lightest and easiest thing we have found to work with. Everything else is either too heavy, too thick, or too ugly for our tastes.
Here are some more pictures for ideas and inspiration. There are plenty of better examples out there, too. I have always been inspired by teams 60 and 207.
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/Sivart321_album02/DSCN1407.sized.jpg
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/Sivart321_album02/DSCN1376.sized.jpg
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/Sivart321_album05/DSCN3111.sized.jpg (http://www.hostdub.com/Sivart321_album05:DSCN3111)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/68e/68effc9816cd720f68b41d4d2e286dca_m.jpg
Since you guys are not powering the front wheels, you should probably swap them out for something with less traction.
The Andymark 6" Omnis (http://www.andymark.biz/am-0013.html) would work well.
Also, the rules aren't exactly clear, but it looks as though the DIN rails are required. Check the best practices and the electronics manual linked under section 8 of the manual on the usfirst site.
Also, those panels posted above with the white wires are 254's.
We are swapping to 4wd, just waiting for the parts to arrive.
-Bochek
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h87/cuog/CDdeadvictors.jpg
Those wires right in front of the Victor fans really worry me. With as little airflow as that last victor would get, magic smoke may make a debut.
Greg, do you know what that black (plastic?) material is in the first pic? Where do you get it? What are the specs, thickness, weight, etc.?
We have always used plywood for our electronics board because it is cheap, easy to cut and screw stuff to and also non-conductive incase someone makes a mistake and drops a screw/wire/etc. I would like to try something new and lighter this year. Does anyone have a favorite material they can recommend?
My favorite material to use is fiberglass balsa wood composite board. It's very strong and durable, and very very light. The only thing that I don't like is that its very easy to strip out a hole and you can't really nail anything to it. We were going to use carbon fiber balsa wood composite board in 2005, but carbon is well... conductive, so we quickly changed that idea :D .
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h87/cuog/CDdeadvictors.jpg
Those wires right in front of the Victor fans really worry me. With as little airflow as that last victor would get, magic smoke may make a debut.
actually the wires are above the victors.
there is a clear channel for air to travel and we will be adding a large fan at the end to flow air down the channel.
- Bochek
OK good, from that angle it looked bad, but as long as your taking everything into account
Shu Song
14-01-2007, 15:16
Neatness of wiring has often taken a back seat for available space and time remaining. But our team has done better in recent years. Though I have a suspicion that is is only because we have allotted more room for electronics, which I'm very thankful for.
Kristian Calhoun
14-01-2007, 20:26
Here is a partial picture of Team 25's wiring on our 2006 'bot.
The tracking kept the excess wire out of the way, and allowed easy access to the different ports on the controller, pwm outputs, victors, etc.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5099/img1139hb1.jpg
NeedMoreEngines
14-01-2007, 21:12
do you plan on driving all four wheels? Those kit wheels are pretty grippy and it doesn't look like you'll have an easy time turning.
I agree - here's tip. don't use castors for the front wheels if you don't power all four wheels. There's a right way and a wrong way to do castors. They're not worth it.
our rookie year was terrible because of castors.
Unless you're team 103 or 1302. That's the right way to do castors.:D
Jeremiah H
14-01-2007, 22:14
Does anyone have a favorite material they can recommend?
We use stuff some people have called cloroplast(sp?). It's the verythin-walled, corrugated polycarbonate sheeting used on the ends of greenhouses.
I agree - here's tip. don't use castors for the front wheels if you don't power all four wheels. There's a right way and a wrong way to do castors...
Could you please elaborate a little bit? We are planning to use them on the rear of this year's bot, but if you know something that we haven't figured out yet, 393 would be mighty grateful if you could enlighten us. Thank you!
lukevanoort
14-01-2007, 22:49
Could you please elaborate a little bit? We are planning to use them on the rear of this year's bot, but if you know something that we haven't figured out yet, 393 would be mighty grateful if you could enlighten us. Thank you!
I think he's probably referring to how it can be difficult to control a robot with casters since they make the robot turn so easily, as well some caster equipped robots propensity for fishtailing. Also, if shopping cart style casters are used instead of ball casters, the caster can turn sideways and throw your robot off course,
8020 makes a really light weight, yet strong corrugated plastic product. We have not used it for mounting the electronics in previous years, however, we are going to use it this year. One of our main mentors is the head of an 8020 distributor company who builds custom 8020 structures for customers, and he said that it would be plenty strong in our setup.
Kim Masi
14-01-2007, 23:31
Wheres the thread for the messiest wiring? Cause I think the bobcats would take the cake!
Just kidding. We usually end up wiring our robot really late and are pushed for time, so it doesnt look that nice. But Greg, I'm really impressed with those control panels. they look really nice!
Jeremytice
14-01-2007, 23:33
We try to make the wiring on our bot as neat as possible. As the season goes on and on though, that neat wiring job usually starts to go away and our wiring usually gets messier and messier.
Corey Balint
14-01-2007, 23:35
1/4" ABS Plastic is what you see there. Available pretty much anywhere. We got ours from McMaster. It is about the nicest, lightest and easiest thing we have found to work with. Everything else is either too heavy, too thick, or too ugly for our tastes.
Here are some more pictures for ideas and inspiration. There are plenty of better examples out there, too. I have always been inspired by teams 60 and 207.
968 was incredible with their wiring in years past. Its mostly the reason we picked them:cool:
There efficiency that is
trilogism
15-01-2007, 00:08
We usually use either plexiglass or lexan (idk which)
I think ours is the tidiest board
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/a46/a46e5ac9803c380103369e9ebeb9ffab_l.jpg
LightWaves1636
15-01-2007, 00:21
Post a picture of what you think is the best wired robot
Team 2200:
2007 rookie year, 5 days after kickoff.
http://www.mmrambotics.ca/robot/10.JPG
http://www.mmrambotics.ca/robot/11.JPG
Hmmmm....I don't seem to see any of the power distribution blocks. (Read <R57>)
Jimmy Holmes
15-01-2007, 12:50
Here are a few from our past.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43660
Jimmy Holmes
Team 27
RUSH
Could you please elaborate a little bit? We are planning to use them on the rear of this year's bot, but if you know something that we haven't figured out yet, 393 would be mighty grateful if you could enlighten us. Thank you!
We used rear castors last year and they worked pretty well. We used fixed onmi wheels. Actually the fishtail motion can increase your manuverability with a little practice. It does hurt you in that you can be pushed a spun easily.
Daniel367
15-01-2007, 19:27
Here is a partial picture of Team 25's wiring on our 2006 'bot.
The tracking kept the excess wire out of the way, and allowed easy access to the different ports on the controller, pwm outputs, victors, etc.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5099/img1139hb1.jpg
what were the switches for?:confused:
lukevanoort
15-01-2007, 19:45
what were the switches for?:confused:
I'm not from 25, but judging by how one is labeled "time delay" I would guess that they are autonomous mode selectors.
Daniel367
16-01-2007, 01:28
on the bot? why?
Bharat Nain
16-01-2007, 01:47
on the bot? why?
Just because :p. It's how we switched between autonomous modes etc. You could do it from the OI also, but we chose the robot.
I think ours is the tidiest board Hahahahahaha! Now wire it up and keep it looking that tidy!:D
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