2009 - Ice Game [Archive]

Michelle Celio

14-01-2007, 16:06

We've ruled out water games over and over again...but how about ice?
This is what happens when you talk to Libby Kamen...
(3:57:39 PM) Me: Look at Dave's away message:
What would you do-o-o-o-o-o for a Klondike Bar???
(3:57:41 PM) Me: ITS A HINT!
(3:57:46 PM) Me: ICE GAME
(3:58:27 PM) Libby: LMAO
(3:58:28 PM) Libby: michelle
(3:58:33 PM) Libby: the 07 season JUST started
(3:58:37 PM) Me: So?
(3:58:37 PM) Libby: he shouldnt be hinting for 09 yet
(3:58:46 PM) Me: WHAT
(3:58:47 PM) Libby: er....uhm......i didn't say 09
and...
(4:01:58 PM) Libby: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/22422
(4:02:02 PM) Libby: what did i say?
(4:02:03 PM) Libby: ice

Koko Ed

14-01-2007, 16:08

FIRST robots on ice.:rolleyes:

oy

Daisy

14-01-2007, 16:12

oy

speechless.

I am just going to be afraid. And leave you alone - from now on.

mhm. Salvage my brain.

Hiteak

14-01-2007, 16:30

Hmmm, practicing would be easy figuring that its been raining ice the last few days here.

Libby K

14-01-2007, 16:34

We already have enough successful Canadian teams, we don't need to give them any more advantages! ;)

because I totally didn't just say that to you over AIM.... :mad:

Jonathan Norris

14-01-2007, 16:35

We already have enough successful Canadian teams, we don't need to give them any more advantages! ;)

You think we make tough defensive robots... you should see us on ice ;)

Richard Wallace

14-01-2007, 16:36

We've got ice in St. Louis now.:eek: If the same thing happens in 2009 we could practice in the parking lot. Using batteries for power, of course; these ice storms are usually accompanied by widespread electrical service outage.

Anyway, our regional venue would be well suited to an ice game, because it is a hockey arena. Normally we cover the ice with plastic tiles and then carpet over that for the field. Maybe in '09 we can just remove some tiles instead?

If the volunteers (esp. referees and field resetters) are going to be ready for this, they have to get their skates on soon.:rolleyes:

Graham Donaldson

14-01-2007, 16:50

You think we make tough defensive robots... you should see us on ice ;)

Aim High- basketball & soccer- :o OK

Sk8tin' A-Boot (and yes, a Canadian is making Canadian cracks)- curling and hockey- :D AMAZING!!!!

Alexa Stott

14-01-2007, 17:04

Anyway, our regional venue would be well suited to an ice game, because it is a hockey arena. Normally we cover the ice with plastic tiles and then carpet over that for the field. Maybe in '09 we can just remove some tiles instead?

Yep! Same here in NJ.

And maybe that would mean less people would get sick at the regional...those little blocks they use to cover the ice always seem to have everyone feeling under the weather (or that's one of the theories (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45166)). ;)

Pavan Dave

14-01-2007, 17:21

You think we make tough defensive robots... you should see us on ice ;)

Hehe, I have, and the Americans got beat up big time. Although this would be a cool game how consistent would it be? I mean after every game would you have that IceTraktor go over the ice to smooth it out? How would they keep the field consistent is my main worry. ALTHOUGH if you used treads properly it wouldn't matter.

Pavan.

Michelle Celio

14-01-2007, 17:23

I was IMed with "You Got Lavery owned" and was told to check out his away message....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Mich_is_awesome/Igotdaveownedpar2.png
And like a minute later I get an IM... (scared me half to death..thank you Dave)
(5:17:11 PM) Dave Lavery: You just HAD to start the "Ice in 2009!!!" thread, didn't you??! :)
(5:17:36 PM) Me: Libbys idea =]
(5:17:46 PM) Dave Lavery: oh yeah, blame her... :)
(5:17:56 PM) Dave Lavery: (actually, let's all just blame Sean)
(5:18:07 PM) Me: That works =]
(5:18:20 PM) Dave Lavery: consider it done.
(5:18:45 PM) Dave Lavery: Now I have to go off and figure out how we are going to get all the 2009 regional competitions to be held in hockey rinks....

ICE GAME IT IS!

Jonathan Norris

14-01-2007, 17:36

ICE GAME IT IS!

This means I need to work on a Bombardier (snowmobile) and Snowcat sponsorship.... :p

Graham Donaldson

14-01-2007, 17:37

I mean after every game would you have that IceTraktor go over the ice to smooth it out?

:eek:- how dare you call it an "IceTraktor"! It's a ZAMBONI- haven't you ever listened to Canadian Idiot??-:mad: [side note]Wierd Al is really funny sometimes- although Canadian Idiot wasn't as good as White n' Nerdy[/side note].

BobC

14-01-2007, 18:04

Hmmm, practicing would be easy figuring that its been raining ice the last few days here.

Oh, so it's your fault. We are supposed to get that crap here tonight and tomorrow in Connecticut.

Jonathan Norris

14-01-2007, 18:11

Oh, so it's your fault. We are supposed to get that crap here tonight and tomorrow in Connecticut.

CRAP!! :eek: what you mean that beautiful white thing we like to call snow. I have been missing it here in Toronto, today was actually our first official snow fall... and I have been missing it (it looks a lot better then yellow dead grass).

Donut

14-01-2007, 19:15

For an ice game here in Arizona, we'd have to move our venue to the Coyote's Arena. Does this mean I can assume we'd finally get the Cardinal's Staidum/Coyote's Arena venue combo I've been hoping for, and we can push for a super regional (or even the Championship) in 2009?

BobC

14-01-2007, 20:23

CRAP!! :eek: what you mean that beautiful white thing we like to call snow. I have been missing it here in Toronto, today was actually our first official snow fall... and I have been missing it (it looks a lot better then yellow dead grass).

I drive for a living and every day we don't have that "CRAP" I am happy.

Chris2

14-01-2007, 20:28

Using snow would stink. Snow is cold, and wet when melted. I just hate it!

fimmel

14-01-2007, 20:56

ice dosent have to be frozen water.......they make "fake" ice thats like srally slippery plastic that people skate on. it could be a connection to a water game (water + cold = ice)
/forest

NoSkaOnTheRadio

14-01-2007, 21:06

...you have that IceTraktor go over the ice to smooth it out...

Pavan.

IceTraktor? its called an IceTraktor?! gosh my childhood would have been so much more exciting if an "IceTraktor" cleaned the ice after my youth hockey games instead of that lame zamboni.

NoSkaOnTheRadio

14-01-2007, 21:08

haha, i just read robotcanuck1676's post. so it's not called an IceTraktor? it should be.

Otaku

14-01-2007, 21:45

We barely have any ice here in California (At least here in Rohnert Park, where 675 is), so we'd have no way to practice D=

technoL

15-01-2007, 18:14

That would surely make an interesting Florida Regional. Would it actually require us not to wear shorts and the warm clothes that none of us Floridians have?

"Ice? What's that?"

With this game each venue would already be equipped with a team social, ice skating party anyone? I could only imagine the poor volunteers though...

Josh Goodman

15-01-2007, 18:29

some teams would have trouble with the "not destroying the game pieces or arena" rule. Not to mention it would completely mess up over perfect traction robots!:rolleyes:

Graham Donaldson

15-01-2007, 18:33

some teams would have trouble with the "not destroying the game pieces or arena" rule. Not to mention it would completely mess up over perfect traction robots!:rolleyes:

Not really. Just make a robot with gigantic spikes on the treads... [during a match- the announcer] "Ooh, and there goes Team X's whole control board... sorry guys... [/during a match- the announcer]

suewanninger

15-01-2007, 18:52

This means I need to work on a Bombardier (snowmobile) and Snowcat sponsorship.... :p

I guess Team 1732 NASA/Quad Tech Inc./The Ralph Evinrude Foundation/Rockwell Automation/The John McDermott Family/BRP US Inc./Marquette University/Titan Inc. & Marquette University High School is all set then!

BRP US Inc = Bombardier Recreational Products

Netherlander

15-01-2007, 19:02

If it comes down to ice we Canadians will have the Israeli's beat no problem!

Richard Wallace

15-01-2007, 19:36

If it comes down to ice we Canadians will have the Israeli's beat no problem!Maybe not. I heard tell of a few Israelis sk8tin' aboot (http://www.israel-hockey.com/images/nationalteams/Amiens/israel%2010x15%20300%20dpi/leo%20israel%20equipe%201877.JPG).

Taylor

15-01-2007, 21:20

Do you believe in miracles? Yes!

raymaniac

15-01-2007, 21:57

If we're going to speculate shouldn't we at least speculate about the 2008 game?

Squishylizard

15-01-2007, 22:58

If we're going to speculate shouldn't we at least speculate about the 2008 game?

...and flog that dead horse? Everyone knows that 2008 is going to be FIRE themed...

edua87

16-01-2007, 00:50

in the pic it looks like the bots are actually skateboarding, perhaps the game is to get the most air after jumping the ramp

ChrisMcK2186

16-01-2007, 08:34

WHOA!! Guys, Dean would not do this for one reason...It would completly put the icecapades out of buisness. This reminds me of the farside comic "The icecrusades". I do hope fire is the theme next year, just to hear the batteries pop.

Chris

Cowmankoza

16-01-2007, 10:01

Now my question on the ice game is, would a team be allowed to put spikes in their wheels in order to obtain traction or would that still be barred? lol

Jonathan Norris

16-01-2007, 10:04

Now my question on the ice game is, would a team be allowed to put spikes in their wheels in order to obtain traction or would that still be barred? lol

That would probably be considered damaging the playing field :p

Jeremytice

16-01-2007, 10:48

Robots on ice:)

Ansem Retort

17-01-2007, 13:53

Synchronized skating with 'bots...ah fun times ahead...
now fire....can you imagine the FLAMETHROWERS one could have?:D Us safety captains would have a grand ol' time. Although with the fire idea, I can imagine the manual would be twice as long as it is now with all the rules and restrictions.

RoboDriver1718

17-01-2007, 17:05

That would be amazing. It would be really cool if they came up with a game like that only it was a game of hockey. You could have a arm shoot back and forth to shoot a puck and maybe a defensive robot as a goalie:rolleyes: .

Just givin the idea some thought. Maybe the 2011 game will be on MARS! Just Kiddin

blaskay16

18-01-2007, 08:43

duuuude, i modled something on cad, and it doesnt work in real life? whats up with that? oh, and i cant run my robot on qbasic 98 edition, should i get the 2000 qbasic edition? :yikes:

Zanella BR

18-01-2007, 10:07

:ahh: Whoa, it's going to be a problem to build an arena like this here in Brazil... :ahh:

A.Lathrop

18-01-2007, 15:29

synth3tk

18-01-2007, 23:14

mormannoob

18-01-2007, 23:35

what about.........a snakes on a plane themed game where you build a robot that can kill snakes while you fly an air plane :yikes: :yikes:

Cowmankoza

19-01-2007, 12:12

no need to get angry, this is just a fun-loving thread, btw water based robotics competitions exist, and it would be an extreme leap in fun (as well as difficulty) in the realm of FIRST!

dlavery

19-01-2007, 12:55

i dont know how many times i have heard water or ice or other idiotic ideas like the ones ive seen today. There will never be a water challenge because of the chances of it breaking down in the water. Ice would make it to hard to keep the floor cold enough to have it last a competition. And fire...thats just a joke. PLEASE PPL!!!! THINK!:eek:

Dang. Since you said there will never be a water challenge, I guess I will just have to scrap all those plans for the 2008 game and start over.

Now where did I put that idea for the jello-based game.....

-dave

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Nica F.

19-01-2007, 13:03

Now where did I put that idea for the jello-based game.....

.

uf. jello. why not pudding ? :D

Taylor

19-01-2007, 13:04

Dave just gave me an idea (!) since this year's game uses innertubes, and they were used in the "hint" for next year at the end of Kickoff, that must mean that the 2008 game piece is a hint for the 2009 ice game.
Follow my logic here:
2005 = Triple Play. Tetrahedrons aka triangles pointing way up high.
2006 = Aim High. Game pieces were balls that roll.
2007 = Rack & Roll. Innertubes that float.
2008 = H 2 Uh-Oh!. With game pieces involving a puck, or skates, or a Zamboni, or brooms, or something else along those lines.
2009 = Ice Scream (okay, you come up with a better name)....

But certainly not triangle-circle-square. That's just silly.

Dantvman27

19-01-2007, 14:36

never happening, or will water games, teams cant build practise fields,(well maybe for water games)

Ericgehrken

19-01-2007, 14:48

Do most facilities have the ability to make ice? How about keep it cold enough? Does a convention center have the ability to make ice? Didn't think so.

Rick-906

19-01-2007, 15:05

hehehe we already have Bombardier sponsorship :)
i think us canadians might have a certain advantage... over sayyyyy.... Isreal? Brazil? ehhe

wendymom

19-01-2007, 15:31

The Florida Regional would be just fine. Orlando has ice capabilities at the arena in downtown, we would just have to move out of UCF. We would just have to bring in enough skate guards for the pits.......now thats a safety hazard.

macwhoo

19-01-2007, 16:11

What's all the dissing on Israel and Canada about?!

dlavery

19-01-2007, 16:17

Do most facilities have the ability to make ice? How about keep it cold enough? Does a convention center have the ability to make ice? Didn't think so.

There is more than one way to make ice.

-dave

Billfred

19-01-2007, 16:28

There is more than one way to make ice.

-daveIf Dave's suggesting what I think he's suggesting, I want to be in on that phone call.

"Yeah, uh, we're looking for ice makers that can run on 12 volts, and we need about 1,500 of them. Can we get those by the twentieth of December?"

JGram

19-01-2007, 18:25

:confused: yea not happening we need better solid proof then that no offence of course but still

raymaniac

19-01-2007, 19:12

...and flog that dead horse? Everyone knows that 2008 is going to be FIRE themed...

Ummmm....
Did I miss something?

R.Greene

04-02-2007, 15:41

118 is in Texas, no ice down here.

samo234

05-02-2007, 21:40

having a competition on ice would be pretty crazy!

But if there was one in the up coming years, just think of the game posibilities.

MishraArtificer

05-02-2007, 22:58

...just think of the game posibilities.
Yeah, I've got one.

Ice racing, anyone?

ChrisMcK2186

06-02-2007, 08:41

If we went with the jello/pudding game, Bill Cosby could announce nationals. Sounds fun. Does jello conduct electricity?

Chris

Spikan

08-02-2007, 19:08

Yeah, I've got one.

Ice racing, anyone?

Maybe hockey, but racing would rock

pmswimming25

08-02-2007, 21:31

i think if the game was on ice it would be very fun and hard to control the robots which would make it more challenging

MishraArtificer

09-02-2007, 22:26

Maybe hockey, but racing would rock
Why not curling, Spikan? Much more challenging, getting a rock on a single target.

Golto

17-02-2007, 22:50

I think that something like curling would be right in the spirit of FIRST. Challenging, but not impossible.

FunkyRatDemon

18-02-2007, 01:38

...
Our Tracks would be nice...but slow

Calvin_1631

18-02-2007, 12:08

An ice game would be awesome! Except for the fact that we here in Las Vegas don't have a lot of ice to go around in late March. Impracticable, but it would be an amazing game.

Michelle Celio

03-01-2009, 11:38

Ice Game 2009 - Lunacy.

Wow.

Libby K

03-01-2009, 11:40

Ice Game 2009 - Lunacy.

Wow.

I guess we can say- called it?

Mr_I

03-01-2009, 11:40

Ice Game 2009 - Lunacy.

Wow.

What was the name of the field surface? Regolith? Something else? (Yes, I'm posting while watching "Who Wants To Be An Engineer")

synth3tk

03-01-2009, 11:50

Good call!!!

Steigerwald

03-01-2009, 11:52

What was the name of the field surface? Regolith? Something else? (Yes, I'm posting while watching "Who Wants To Be An Engineer")

Yeah, along with low friction wheels in the kit.

1GiantLeap4FRC is the password

SCROSSLEY-GCEC

03-01-2009, 12:53

brilliant :O Libby is OBVIOUSLY psychic
that or the GDC did it deliberately because of this thread :S :)

DCA Fan

03-01-2009, 15:54

Wow. Way to go guys. Hahahaha

Zholl

04-01-2009, 00:58

Sooo... now that we've more or less proven the ice game theory, how do we go about testing our robots on this? If you look at the rules, it's a gel coated polymer, which I've no idea how to simulate or purchase, and even here in Colorado, ice is a bit impractical right now, considering how expensive ice time is, not to mention scarce. Unfortunately we're in the middle of hockey season (my brother is a bantam player on a CC team), so finding ice time outside of 2am is going to be a nightmare, so that's kind of out the window. Surely someone has an idea? Or maybe I'm totally missing the mark?

synth3tk

04-01-2009, 01:17

There are multiple threads discussing this.

http://chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71033&page=2

The bottom line that I've gathered, though, is you're looking at paying ~$28 per 4x8 sheet or so. Pretty expensive stuff. Good luck. :D

Zach O

01-02-2009, 17:22

FIRST robots on ice.:rolleyes:

I'd pay for that :D

MishraArtificer

02-02-2009, 19:31