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Robert Thacker-
20-03-2007, 19:45
Hey, does anyone know when the top five are suppose to be announced? I know that FIRST is saying something like two weeks before nationals, but that's a little vague. Anyone know for sure?

neslo89
20-03-2007, 22:19
They will be announcing the top five entries of the Autodesk Inventor Award this year for all teams to vote for the best entry on the FIRSTbase site.

I have also heard two weeks before the nationals...nothing more specific than that as far as I know.

pmax
21-03-2007, 19:08
We are in the middle of the judging process now, and hope to make an announcement in the near future. My apologies I can not be more specific at this moment.

We have over 91 entries, and the competition is fierce this year. Great work everyone!

-Pete
Inventor Award Coordinator

JaneYoung
21-03-2007, 19:48
We have over 91 entries, and the competition is fierce this year. Great work everyone!

-Pete
Inventor Award Coordinator

YaY

Koko Ed
21-03-2007, 19:59
We are in the middle of the judging process now, and hope to make an announcement in the near future. My apologies I can not be more specific at this moment.

We have over 91 entries, and the competition is fierce this year. Great work everyone!

-Pete
Inventor Award Coordinator

91 out of 1300+ teams?
I thought the AVA was underepresented.
How dissapointing and perhaps a good indicator of this. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55938)
It would be interesting to see the collective record of the 91 teams who entered (and see how much larger their trophy case has gotten) because they used CAD to assist in designing their robot. A tool that was available to all teams! Not just the rich HAVES.

JaneYoung
21-03-2007, 20:03
91 out of 1300+ teams?
I thought the AVA was underepresented.
How dissapointing and perhaps a good indicator of this. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55938)
It would be interesting to see the collective record of the 91 teams who entered (and see how much larger their trophy case has gotten) because they used CAD to assist in designing their robot. A tool that was available to all teams! Not just the rich HAVES.

so...why aren't teams participating?
any ideas?

Alex Cormier
21-03-2007, 20:06
so...why aren't teams participating?
any ideas?

Lack of know how, amount of time, skill? I think all have a reason for the amount of teams who don't submit. I'm sure there are many teams who use it to make stuff for the robot but don't submit.... hopefully.

Daniel Brim
21-03-2007, 20:10
91 out of 1300+ teams?
I thought the AVA was underepresented.
How dissapointing and perhaps a good indicator of this. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55938)
It would be interesting to see the collective record of the 91 teams who entered (and see how much larger their trophy case has gotten) because they used CAD to assist in designing their robot. A tool that was available to all teams! Not just the rich HAVES.Keep in mind that this is way up from just 57 entries two years ago, if I remember correctly.

Also, not all teams that use CAD submitted for the award. Teams use other software, or didn't see fit to submit for the award (such as 125).

JaneYoung
21-03-2007, 20:12
Also, not all teams that use CAD submitted for the award. Teams use other software, or didn't see fit to submit for the award (such as 125).

Would it be worthwhile to put a poll in the General forum and ask for teams to post why or who not?

Guy Davidson
21-03-2007, 20:19
I know we used Solidworks and didn't want to move to Inventor in the middle of the season. Maybe next year.

Lil' Lavery
21-03-2007, 20:37
This is 116s first year submitting, but we have used it (and some other software) in the past without submitting for the award. Many other teams use AutoCAD, Solidworks, and other software.

Koko Ed
21-03-2007, 21:03
Would it be worthwhile to put a poll in the General forum and ask for teams to post why or who not?

It couldn't hurt to ask.

Frenchie
21-03-2007, 21:34
Team 469 is not participating because only one person on our team uses Inventor. The majority of the students use Solidworks and one of our mentor uses Unigraphics.

Francois.

JaneYoung
21-03-2007, 21:38
It couldn't hurt to ask.
OK let's say we make a poll -
what are the questions?

Did you submit an entry for the Autodesk Inventor Award?

Yes

No

Please give reasons if you selected No

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How's that for starters?
Or do you want to add:
if Yes, how many years have you submitted?

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Dan Petrovic
21-03-2007, 22:08
We submit an animation, but no inventor submission.

We use Pro-E Wildfire simply because it's what BAE Systems uses and they can easily train students on it. Also... it's installed on all of the computers in the lab we have access to. Getting things installed on the school computers is a rough process and we'd rather not deal with it.

Sorry, Inventor.

Robert Thacker-
21-03-2007, 23:54
Yes, I believe our team has submitted for 5 years and won twice. Any teams who step outside of the Inventor program shouldn't be up for the award, really.

Arefin Bari
22-03-2007, 00:24
91 out of 1300+ teams?
I thought the AVA was underepresented.
How dissapointing and perhaps a good indicator of this. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55938)
It would be interesting to see the collective record of the 91 teams who entered (and see how much larger their trophy case has gotten) because they used CAD to assist in designing their robot. A tool that was available to all teams! Not just the rich HAVES.

Keep in mind, that AVA is given out only at the championship. So that means only 350 teams (thats just a number) or less have the chance to participate for this award. Out of those 350 teams, 150 of those teams get qualified during the regionals (winner of the regional, EI, or chairmans). So that leaves us with 200 teams. So I would say 91 teams submitted out of 200 teams. I am only guesstimating the numbers that I used in this post.

Lifelessimp
22-03-2007, 00:25
Our team submitted an entry for the inventor contest for the first time this year. In previous years we just haven't had students who have known Inventor well enough. Luckily for the team, our biggest inventor guru is a junior and will be back next year :).

Daniel Brim
22-03-2007, 00:38
Keep in mind, that AVA is given out only at the championship. So that means only 350 teams (thats just a number) or less have the chance to participate for this award. Out of those 350 teams, 150 of those teams get qualified during the regionals (winner of the regional, EI, or chairmans). So that leaves us with 200 teams. So I would say 91 teams submitted out of 200 teams. I am only guesstimating the numbers that I used in this post.You don't need to be signed up for Championships to win the award. It's a separate entity.

Phil Ross
23-03-2007, 09:56
Our team submitted for the first time this year. We went into an extreme amount of detail and I'm very proud of our three members who comitted their entire lives to the Inventor Program. We out in all the corner fastners and slide fastners for the extrusion and all of the random little bolts and screws and washers.

negfrequency
25-03-2007, 11:40
this is the first year we used Inventor, and it was mainly because i was like the only senior on the whole team and i REALLY pushed it. Surprisingly, the whole team followed up with it and someone would turn out a concept drawing every night. As soon as we demonstrated that the gripper worked in real life, i think our team finally saw the value in it - there were so many dimensions we could not have done without the CAD system.

I think that a lot of teams just want to get down and dirty and get in the shop and start building something with their hands. In truth though, trial and error is expensive and time consuming, and may require redesign. Another thing that i noticed was that all of my drawings were much more convincing because i animated them for people, so they all immediately went for my idea, since they knew how it would work and that it was possible.

Im pretty sure that a lot of my team values CAD so much more now, but like other teams im afraid the rest of my team lacks the experience to build an enitre robot again. I am positive however that it will be used in the future for at least minor parts.

Robert Thacker-
25-03-2007, 11:54
That's cool. I hope your team continues again.

But as soon as someone knows about the top five, please post something!

neslo89
30-03-2007, 21:05
The Top Five are posted!

Please submit your vote today.

http://firstbase.autodesk.com/

Good luck to all that are involved.

Dan Zollman
30-03-2007, 21:34
Cool. Congrats to the five teams who made the top five.

Looks like the RoboRaiders URL has a backslash where it should have a forward slash.

We've got three past winners here, and the maker of the field model graciously provided for download early this season. I'm glad 871's entry worked out after their hosting problems.

BRosser314
30-03-2007, 21:38
After going to a workshop at the Kickoff event in 2004, I always wanted to do it, but my only problem was finding enough time to do it, THere was alot of work behind it and as being a driver, and a part of the build season and pit crew, There wasnt much time between meetings and homework:D

mateus
30-03-2007, 21:43
congratulations to the top five...but i have a doubt... has the "inventor robot" (i didn' get to explain that in another way) to be the most equal as possible to the "real robot"? :confused:

Phil Ross
30-03-2007, 22:37
Congrats to all the team that made the top 5. I looked at all of your sites and you all did a great job. I hope to get to meet some of you guys at either Philly Regional or Atlanta.

Daniel_H
31-03-2007, 11:09
OH MY GOD!

Congratulation guys! it will be tough

Mateus, the main purpose is how you use inventor to make a better robot :)

mateus
31-03-2007, 11:34
OH MY GOD!

Congratulation guys! it will be tough

Mateus, the main purpose is how you use inventor to make a better robot :)

allright... thank you... and congrats... go go BRAZIL!!! lol

Daniel_H
31-03-2007, 13:20
allright... thank you... and congrats... go go BRAZIL!!! lol

thanks! It's really nice that there are Brazilian representatives in this competition, I've seen that several rookies joined too

even though our team didn't made it to atlanta through the regional awards, I'm going with the FLL team that we are mentoring, so I hope to see all of you inventor-addicted there!

AdamHeard
31-03-2007, 14:32
Keep in mind that this is way up from just 57 entries two years ago, if I remember correctly.

Also, not all teams that use CAD submitted for the award. Teams use other software, or didn't see fit to submit for the award (such as 125).

This is true. We designed our whole robot in CAD, but the work wasn't up to par with what we've seen other teams do so we passed on submitting this year.

Robert Thacker-
31-03-2007, 22:45
First, I would like to say great job to ALL teams in the top five.

-And yes, it should be pretty much be exactly what your robot looks like in real life.-

I was not surprised to see these teams make top five. And the fact that there's a few of us that won the award in the past is going to make this very ineteresting! I really love to see what teams put into these awards.

For me, I, as I am sure is true for every team that is competing for the spot, put a lot of my heart into the award. I have taught 2 new freshmen to carry on our name and they are the ones that did all of the controls this year (look at the control page on our site). I will remember their faces when it was done and completed. I remember the smiles. I will never forget them, because I feel like if there was ever a time that I made an impact in someone's life, it was that moment. Teaching them what FIRST meant to me was the most awarding thing I have EVER recieved. Because in the end, it's the impact that you leave that really matters. It's the inspiration behind the recognition.

I love what I do and there is nothing in the world I would rather be doing in my life, than this right here. We are well aware of the dedication it takes to get there. I hope, too, I will eventually meet and shake everyone's hand that got top five this year. Best of luck to everyone!

AndyB
02-04-2007, 22:06
Lack of know how, amount of time, skill? I think all have a reason for the amount of teams who don't submit. I'm sure there are many teams who use it to make stuff for the robot but don't submit.... hopefully.

This is what we did. We have a full robot modeled in Inventor, but we also used some Solidworks in it, which basically would throw us out of the running.

Also, I am the only person on our team that does drafting but I also run the website, do mechanical, and fund raising, so it becomes difficult to find time to submit. We did last year.

Rohith Surampudi
04-04-2007, 11:53
On Behalf of Team 75 id like to congratulate and commend teams 103, 342, 871, 1156 on their magnificent work on their Inventor submissions this year, your sites and models look amazing



on a side note...the link to 75's website is still broken, the proper URL is below
http://www.roboraiders.com/showcase/index.php

negfrequency
04-04-2007, 15:42
Yes, idl like to second that last statement and congradulate the top 5 on their outstanding models. I am very happy with the exponential growth of people using CAD as their developement tool in FRC. Professionalism is showing more and more.

I would also like to remind everyone about the Autodesk stand that will be in atlanta for any teams who want to persue it next year. They have tutorials and at the end of all of them will supply free one year software to anyone who listens in 3ds max or autodesk inventor. (by the time this expires, the next season wll have started and oyu will have Inventor 12 anyway). I strongly recomment this if you want to take a break from the bots

neslo89
04-04-2007, 16:12
On Behalf of Team 75 id like to congratulate and commend teams 103, 342, 871, 1156 on their magnificent work on their Inventor submissions this year, your sites and models look amazing



on a side note...the link to 75's website is still broken, the proper URL is below
http://www.roboraiders.com/showcase/index.php

Thank you and congratulations to your team for also making the top 5. I would also like to remind everyone to please vote for the Autodesk Inventor Award as well as the Autodesk Visualization Award on http://firstbase.autodesk.com/. I know that our team put in countless hours into our entry as I'm sure every other team did. Take time to look at the entries and vote for the teams that you think most deserve the award.

Here is the link to Team 871's entry (http://inventor.westisliprobotics.com/) :D

Once again congrats to all teams that made it this far in the competition...hope to see you all in Atlanta

Evenstar_342
04-04-2007, 18:52
Good luck to everyone nominated!

Go vote!!! :D

In case anyone's interested: http://academics.tridenttech.edu/team342/inventor07/07_index.html

Our robot (for lots of cool images/video of all our sub components): http://academics.tridenttech.edu/team342/inventor07/07_robot.html

Daniel_H
04-04-2007, 23:23
Who is gonna be at the autodesk luncheon in atlanta??

I WILL!

Ben Martin
08-04-2007, 21:41
Wow... So many great submissions.

I'm an Inventor guy on our team, and I know how much effort those must have taken all of you. Great Job!

See you all in Atlanta. :)