Announcing BattleCry@WPI 8! [Archive]

WernerNYK

17-04-2007, 18:35

Mark your calendars for the 8th annual BattleCry!! This year will again be a 48-team, 2-day event at WPI. The date is Fri/Sat, 15-16 Jun. Registration opens online (www.wpi.edu/+battlecry) precisely at 0800EDT on 1 May (Tue). Be sure to register early, prior years have filled to capacity within 30 minutes of registration opening. Your $350 registration gets you all the normal BattleCry goodies:
Friday night team social (free bowling, vex, CRUD, DDR, [comedy show?], etc)
10 free BC commerative color t-shirts
10 free Fri barbecue meals
10 free Fri evening ice cream social tickets
10 free Sat lunches
Commerative, custom participation medal
and, enough confetti to make up for the lack of any at the Championship!

It also gets you into both the Fri and Sat special mini-robot and human player games and guarantees your team's entry into the elimination rounds (16 final alliances instead of 8). As usual, low cost on-campus dorm space is available for over-nighting as well as reduced fare local hotels. Expect some special guest appearances as well as some potential forthcoming game changes... More info can be found at www.wpi.edu/+battlecry and you can watch last year's match results and video (http://www.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/2006/matchresults.html).

Be sure to check out last year's wrap video for "the best event of the year" at, immediately following the announcement of the winning alliance: Saturday Final Match/Wrap Video/Awards (mms://media.atc.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/06/sat-closing.wmv)

Also view opening videos and human player and driver skills challenges:

Friday Opening video (mms://media.atc.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/06/friday-opening.wmv)
Saturday Opening video (mms://media.atc.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/06/sat-opening.wmv)
Human Player Contest (mms://media.atc.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/06/hpcontest.wmv)
Driver Skills Contest (mms://media.atc.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/06/vexchallenge.wmv)

If you wish to volunteer, please contact us at battlecry@wpi.edu, it helps us to better plan accordingly than if you just show up!

-Chris
BattleCry Production Manager
CRUD Name, Weiner

ahecht

24-04-2007, 21:35

Hopefully I'll be able to make it down from the middle-of-nowhere to go to BattleCry this year. Last year's competition was incredibly intense, and with at least two National Champion robots likely to be there, this year should be even better. I can't wait to see what teams sign up when registration goes live next week.

Rosiebotboss

24-04-2007, 22:04

For those of you that don't know what CRUD is...........it can only be described as fast paced and fun. I just wish I remembered my CRUD name:confused:

Looking forward to BC8......

KathieK

25-04-2007, 06:24

If there's any interest in having a NEMO (Non-Engineering Mentor Organization) meeting at BattleCry, please contact me. If I get enough people interested I will try to arrange a meeting during Saturday.

Kim Masi

25-04-2007, 07:56

Team 177 will be back at battlecry to reunite with their championship partners, 190! Cant wait to see everyone.

In my opinion, Battlecry is one of the best-run off season events. WPI and 190 do a great job hosting, I cant wait!

artdutra04

25-04-2007, 09:55

228 will be back this year for yet another wicked awesome BattleCry@ WPI competition! Our team always looks forward to this event, as Kim said, it is one of the best competitions of the year. With their annual twist to the game, their proposed change would be an awesome addition to the game, much as the \"pendulum\" was at last year\'s event! :p

For those of you that dont know what CRUD is...........it can only be described as fast paced and fun. I just wish I remembered my CRUD name:confused:In case anyone is interested...

About the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crud_(game)
And a video of some intense CRUD action: CRUD (http://www.team228.org/video/misc/crudxcore.wmv)

Ian Curtis

25-04-2007, 15:16

Any word on the registration form? It still says Stand By.

CRUD is pretty sweet, but I like Grady's games better.

BiTurboS4

25-04-2007, 16:10

Been going to the Event since it started, can't wait to see what twists kenny and the staff put on this years game. Any word if Rick will be involved this year?

Andy Grady

25-04-2007, 18:40

CRUD is pretty sweet, but I like Grady's games better.

All I have to say, is that if you liked FIRST Feud, and FIRST Jeopardy...this years gameshow is going to blow your mind.

Boy wait til you see what we have in store for you!

Without a doubt, this years Battlecry will be one you DO NOT want to miss.

Tsom467

26-04-2007, 01:45

What about the teams (like us) that filled out the survey last year? I know we should be able to register starting 2 days ago, but this is the first notice I've seen about BattleCry. In the past years, I've received the email announcing it, but I have not received anything.

There was an issue last year after submitting the online form where it just displayed an error. But after sending a message to WPI, I got a reply from the BattleCry staff that they did receive the info.

I hope the message is just delayed... I don't want to miss out opportunity to register! We're 7 year BC@WPI veterans, and don't to miss out on the 8th!

Brandon Holley

26-04-2007, 11:56

AcesPease

26-04-2007, 12:31

We are looking forward to registering (I still do not see the forms).

This will be our 8th BattleCry!

If any team near Windsor Locks CT is interested in sharing a ride we are booking a bus to take the bulk of our team Saturday Morning. Its a big bus and may have as many as 30 extra seats. You can contact me at billpease@mac.com

WernerNYK

26-04-2007, 15:57

BC7 veterans, do not fret! There were some unfortunate delays in getting the early-registration form up, but it should be online shortly. All of the teams that qualify for early-reg should receive an email from BattleCry Ops once everything is fully verified.

As Andy has mentioned, you certainly won't want to miss this year's event!

dapub

27-04-2007, 09:40

We are trying to get our costs figured for this event....
Does anyone have an estimate for the price of the dorm rooms?

whytheheckme

27-04-2007, 09:44

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS EVENT!!!!!!!

This is my favorite FIRST event out of all of the ones I have been to. The atmosphere there is so energetic, not to mention the relaxed feeling in the pit not having to worry about inspections :p ...

Hope to see you all there!
Jacob

WernerNYK

27-04-2007, 10:15

We are trying to get our costs figured for this event....
Does anyone have an estimate for the price of the dorm rooms?

This information is not 100% confirmed, but this is the last I heard: there are a block of rooms that will be available at the Crown Plaza Hotel for $99/night (2 double beds), and the dorms will be $48/night for a single and $54/night for a double. The website will be updated to reflect the true costs once everything is fully confirmed.

dapub

27-04-2007, 10:34

Great - that gives us a good ballpark.

whytheheckme

27-04-2007, 11:23

and the dorms will be $48/night for a single and

They should make it $47 a night :p

Jacob

WernerNYK

30-04-2007, 15:57

Don't forget, registration opens tomorrow morning at 0800 EDT!

Peter Matteson

30-04-2007, 17:06

I just noticed last year's history page on the BattleCry website doesn't have any of the awards or Finals info. Also I'd love to have video of the final match of the finals if its available.

Dan Petrovic

30-04-2007, 17:09

I just searched the forums for "wicked awesome" and this thread showed up on top.

Should I be surprised? Probably not.

Team 166 is glad to be coming back... for the 8th year :D

Chris Marra

30-04-2007, 17:22

I just noticed last year's history page on the BattleCry website doesn't have any of the awards or Finals info. Also I'd love to have video of the final match of the finals if its available.
I don't have scores or anything, but here are videos of the finals:

http://www.bobcatrobotics.org/bc06/

WernerNYK

30-04-2007, 17:46

I just noticed last year's history page on the BattleCry website doesn't have any of the awards or Finals info. Also I'd love to have video of the final match of the finals if its available.

http://www.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/2006/matchresults.html

Joe G.

01-05-2007, 17:03

From Battlecry site:
Autonomous bonus: Referees will place ringers to complete any vertical row occupied by a keeper scored during the autonomous period. These ringers shall come from a separate referee-accessible-only supply.

Are these ringers placed at the end of autonomous or at the end of the match? If at the end of the match, do these rings take scoring priority over rings placed there by the opposing alliance?

Francis-134

01-05-2007, 18:13

The ringers will be placed by the referee between autonomous and operator control. Also note that the bonus ringers are RINGERS, not KEEPERS.

artdutra04

01-05-2007, 19:38

Now that the change to the game has been officially released, I can talk about it. ;)

I honestly cannot wait for BattleCry@WPI, as now the autonomous portion of the game is finally getting the respect it deserved. Now, with their new "vertical row" addition to the game, one alliance can more or less own the rack in autonomous. If they are able to score one keeper on either side of the rack, the longest row the opposing alliance can get is only three tubes long!

IMHO, this will have two interesting effects on the game: it will be easier to start "growing" rows as now you have more freedom on where to place your first teleoperated tube (supposing that you scored in autonomous), as well as increasing the importance of spoilers to the game.

If wicked awesomeness could be could exist as a tangible noun, we'd have to look no further than BattleCry@WPI to find it. :D

Chris Marra

01-05-2007, 19:57

Comparing the two approaches we've seen so far to enhance autonomous (Battlecry & IRI), it's really hard for me to say which I prefer. The 15 point bonus of IRI's approach gives you an instant point boost, and does not give one alliance a distinct advantage over controlling the game. Using the BC rules, scoring a keeper becomes a paramount factor in determining the game if only one alliance does it, as it promotes them to expand their rows vertically and locks teams into specific sections of the rack for their scoring, which is something we started to see at Nationals. While I'm sure this was bound to happen with the level of defense people from NE are going to play, a single keeper in autonomous is now worth 8 instant points, and very quickly, that 8 multiplies. I eagerly anticipate the high-level of play that this will promote, I worry for alliances that will be unable to cap during autonomous in qualifiers and be at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, I can't wait to see the elimination rounds :D .

I guess 177 better hurry over to RAGE's practice facility and get working on our auto...

PS: What happened to diagonal rows? :-p

artdutra04

01-05-2007, 20:20

PS: What happened to diagonal rows? :-pThe new autonomous rule created for BattleCry@WPI was made so they would not need to alter the scoring software, while still allowing for a bonus for autonomous. ;)

Chris Marra

01-05-2007, 21:11

The new autonomous rule created for BattleCry@WPI was made so they would not need to alter the scoring software, while still allowing for a bonus for autonomous. ;)
On that note (the scoring software), I might as well ask here: Will Battlecry be using the FIRST "Week 2" algorithm designed for more variety than the Week 1 Algorithm, or will something different be used to account for attendance on Friday?

KathieK

02-05-2007, 20:02

- Please share this with your teams if signed up to attend BattleCry or planning to attend just to watch -

This is a good timeto start planning your team's Teambuilding efforts for next fall. If you are a mentor and have an interest in attending a NEMO-sponsored Teambuilding Workshop, please e-mail me. If enough people are interested I will contact my good friends at WPI and ask if they can arrange for a room for us to meet in on Saturday.

kjhobin

02-05-2007, 20:16

is there anyone who can give me the names of the planing committee? thanks in advance

BrianBSL

02-05-2007, 22:54

is there anyone who can give me the names of the planing committee? thanks in advance

Like everyone on it?

You can email battlecry@wpi.edu, that will go to Ken and Brad who can help you. Or if its something simple, feel free to PM me or Chris.

Jeff Rodriguez

02-05-2007, 23:07

Francis-134

03-05-2007, 08:34

My gut reaction to this change isn't good. I think it's going to change the game dynamics drastically. It places much more emphasis on defense and lifting. It cuts down on rack potential dramatically.
Teams are not going to try and score near their home zone anymore, instead, they'll try for the outer edges of the rack. If two allied teams are successful in placing keepers, then all they have to do is play defense the rest of the match. Large rows aren't going to build up because, well, you own two columns. As long as I keep you from getting any lifting points, or really doing anything effectively for that matter, I'll be in pretty good shape to win.

I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. The change was put into place in order to make autonomous more important in the game (which I think we all can agree, it was not). Your strategy as far as getting two in autonomous is indeed interesting, but frankly, I don't see that happening. While I did not watch every match of this year's FRC season, nor did I do any statistical analysis on the game this year, I can say with much confidence that getting two keepers on in autonomous is a difficult task that was not completed very often at nationals, nor at the regional level this season. One would certainly say that doing this is hard to do. Should an alliance not be rewarded for this team work? I would also say that getting two keepers on adjacent rows is not an easy task to accomplish (think of the space issues).

I also don't see how this change will make lifting more prominent. Many times this season, I have seen alliances score literally nothing on the rack and still win the match through bonus points (my own team included). However, because the other alliance couldn't score more than 60 points on the rack, they lost. If an alliance with a good tube scorer with an autonomous can score on the rack, they are that much closer to beating a ramp robot with two "base-bots" on their team.

The new autonomous rule created for BattleCry@WPI was made so they would not need to alter the scoring software, while still allowing for a bonus for autonomous.
On that note (the scoring software), I might as well ask here: Will Battlecry be using the FIRST "Week 2" algorithm designed for more variety than the Week 1 Algorithm, or will something different be used to account for attendance on Friday?

The plan is to use the system that BattleCry has used since it's inception, and not the "more different" algorithm that FIRST has used through this competition season. Because of that, one can expect a more traditional schedule than this year (i.e. no high, middle, low number team distribution).

Rob

03-05-2007, 13:05

I personally think that this change to autonomous adds a ton of value to the "scatter tubes on the rack and then ramp" strategy (basically the strategy that 177, 968 & 190 used to win the championship).

I expect that with more time to play with their bots, many teams will have added autonomous scoring ability. Strategically placing a few more rings after auto will ensure that the opposing alliance can't score enough with tubes to beat the 60 bonus points in this format. Ramps will be much more key to winning than they were under the "normal" Rack & Roll rules (and they were pretty important before).

I do not, however, agree with Ogre's assessment that this is a bad thing. It is just different. You may have to adjust your strategy, but that is the whole point of rule changes that have typically been made at Battlecry in the past.

In reality, the best winning strategy this year (scatter tubes, defend, then ramp) just gets more powerful, so it doesn't really change the game that much. You still need ramps, climbers, tube scorers & defenders.

Should be a fun event.

RAZ

Joe G.

03-05-2007, 14:37

I think the rule change is fine. In the regular season, I only saw a few instances with an alliance scoring 2 keepers, and none more than 2 spiders apart. One keeper limits an alliance to a 128 point row of seven, much more than enough to counteract a ramp. Sure there may be a few instances where this will limit an alliance signifigantly, but I'd estimate this will happen only 3-5 times in the entire competition. An alliance with two robots that can score autonomously on the corners consistantly and beat opponents to it would probably do very well even without this bonus

whytheheckme

03-05-2007, 15:06

OK... Here's a logistical question. What happens if the robot that scores the keeper (lets say in the middle... this is most common) 's base is very near the rack. Could this prevent the ref from putting on the bonus tube on the bottom?

(I'm getting good at this)

O

[O] where the [ ] is the keeper
[---------] where the [----] is the base of the bot
_______[|---O----|]___________ where |] are the bumpers of the bot
where _______________ is the floor

So that the robot is blocking the bottom leg.

Jacob

smurfgirl

03-05-2007, 21:30

Chris Marra

03-05-2007, 22:32

As far as I know, our team is third on the "waiting list". I'm trying to plan the logistics of the event for our team, so I'm wondering how likely it is that we'll actually compete. Does anyone know whether it's probable or not?
I strongly recommend teams continue registering (at www.wpi.edu/+battlecry) until we get at least 6 reserve teams (54 total). In year's past we have almost always gone down to the 4th or 5th reserve team as others drop out.
Already, they've moved one team from the waitlist into the event, so as the current number three, you have a very good chance of getting in.

smurfgirl

03-05-2007, 22:38

Already, they've moved one team from the waitlist into the event, so as the current number three, you have a very good chance of getting in.

Alright, thanks for letting me know. (That's certainly great to hear!)

Freddy Schurr

03-05-2007, 23:47

I emailed the Planning Committee and I haven't hear any word yet.

Roger

04-05-2007, 08:53

OK... Here's a logistical question. <snip> the robot is blocking the bottom leg.

Okay, here is another (less likely but totally possible) scenario. What if redbot and bluebot score on the same column? Which team gets the column? Yeah, not likely, but a programmer can dream, can't he?

Are the camera numbers going to be supplied, or do we have to play children's guessing games like at the Championship and Regionals?

I agree that this rule change makes autonomous more important. It somehow ruins the "purity" of the game by having a human "adjusting" the field between modes, but it is probably the best way to do it without major work. If it was built into the original game I'm sure a more "robotical" method would have been designed.

And to answer whytheheckme, you back up v-e-r-r-r-r-y carefully:) .

artdutra04

04-05-2007, 15:45

I agree that this rule change makes autonomous more important. It somehow ruins the "purity" of the game by having a human "adjusting" the field between modes, but it is probably the best way to do it without major work. If it was built into the original game I'm sure a more "robotical" method would have been designed.This rule isn't that much different than the bonus tetras from scoring a vision tetra in autonomous in the Triple Play (2005) FRC game, as those tetras which were added onto the field by the field attendants just as the bonus tubes here would be. You don't need a more "robotical" method when you have field attendants/resetters standing around the field doing nothing during the match. :)

<G10> If during the AUTONOMOUS PERIOD a VISION TETRA is STACKED on a GOAL located on the edge of the field, a bonus TETRA will be STACKED on the nearest corner GOAL in the alliance END ZONE. If during the AUTONOMOUS PERIOD a VISION TETRA is STACKED on the CENTER GOAL, a bonus TETRA will be placed on both corner GOALS in the alliance END ZONE. All bonus TETRAS will be STACKED on the GOALS by field attendants at the earliest safe opportunity after the end of the AUTONOMOUS PERIOD. Once the AUTONOMOUS PERIOD ends, all VISION TETRAS are treated and SCORED as regular TETRAS for the remainder of the match.

Rob

04-05-2007, 15:50

WernerNYK

05-05-2007, 12:00

Another question for the Battlecry crew:

Will elim rounds alliance selections be done the same way as at past Battlecry events? (where the 3rd parter is a random draw rather than using the traditional draft method)?

thanks,

RAZ

Keep an eye on the "Rules of Engagement" section of the website (http://www.wpi.edu/+battlecry)for the answer to this question...

Also, I'm sure there will be clarifications of the game change rule forthcoming in future SITuation REPorts (updates). Stay tuned, folks!

Jake177

07-05-2007, 15:37

Another question about the bonus ringers. Will they be keepers that can't be spoiled or regular ringers that can be spoiled?

MattD

07-05-2007, 16:00

Another question about the bonus ringers. Will they be keepers that can't be spoiled or regular ringers that can be spoiled?

They will be regular ringers that can be spoiled.

The ringers will be placed by the referee between autonomous and operator control. Also note that the bonus ringers are RINGERS, not KEEPERS.

ScoutingNerd175

26-05-2007, 23:14

If anyone is teamless and staying over night between friday evening and saturday, I seem to need to get a hotel room, and I would love to have someone to share with. If anyone is interested, send me a PM or an email (theatregirl1122@gmail.com) (I need to room with a girl, though. My mother is paying for me this time around, so she makes the rules)

Billfred

27-05-2007, 22:40

I am also looking for a couch or room split (or something similar) for at least Friday night, perhaps Saturday as well if there's demand. Gender is irrelevant (to me, at least). Hit me with a PM if you're interested.

WernerNYK

06-06-2007, 16:27

Attention teams!! The BattleCry Ready Reserve has been depleted so if you sign up now you may have a chance at attending the Northeast's premier offseason event!

Register here: BattleCry@WPI 8 Web Registration System (http://battlecry.bradhouse.com/). Tell your friends!

Ready reserve teams will be contacted in the order they signed up once an opening arises. Just over 1 week until the fun commences!

Elgin Clock

07-06-2007, 12:46

I'm looking to trade a team 237 T-shirt any size S through XL for an official BC8 T-shirt you get with registration if anyone is interested since my team won't be competing this year, but a few of us will be there on Saturday only. PM me.

GAH!! Not competing, and missing Andy's special gameshow friday night!!!
Oh the humanity!!!!!! :ahh:
But..meh..
Gotta see some awesome seniors on 237 graduate Friday night! w00t! :cool:

WernerNYK

08-06-2007, 20:31

FYI, SITuation REPort #2 has been posted on the BattleCry website... http://www.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/tactical.html

Billfred

10-06-2007, 14:56

Just hoping here, is anyone going to BattleCry via Boston? My train arrives that morning at South Station, and I'm hoping to find someone to hitch a ride with instead of, well, getting on yet another train. (Granted, a one-hour ride is nothing compared to the two tenish-hour rides before it, but still.)

Rob

10-06-2007, 21:26

Hello,

Just wondering how the autonomous bonus will be applied if both alliances score keepers in the same vertical row? It would be amazing to see this situation occur.

RAZ

whytheheckme

10-06-2007, 21:32

Hello,

Just wondering how the autonomous bonus will be applied if both alliances score keepers in the same vertical row? It would be amazing to see this situation occur.

RAZ

*cough* *not going to happen* *cough*

;)

Roger kind of touched on this one, with no answer:
Okay, here is another (less likely but totally possible) scenario. What if redbot and bluebot score on the same column? Which team gets the column? Yeah, not likely, but a programmer can dream, can't he?.

My question about the robot blocking the leg wasn't answered either.

How about this question: What happens if two keepers from the same alliance are scored on the same column? Is the alliance pretty much gypped and only gets one bonus ring?

My guess is that these will be addressed at the event. All of them are pretty unlikely except for the robot blocking the leg question.

2 cents.
Jacob

Roger

11-06-2007, 07:37

Just wondering how the autonomous bonus will be applied if both alliances score keepers in the same vertical row? It would be amazing to see this situation occur.

RAZ

*cough* *not going to happen* *cough*

Is that a challenge? <hey! no raised eyebrow smilie!>

Yeah, I'd be amazed too.

My question about the robot blocking the leg wasn't answered either.

Sorry, I misunderstood the situation you set up. (Not that I'm supposed to be answering these questions!) I'm sure there is enough give in the spider leg to push it and squeeze a tube on. Maybe they'll take a popped tube and drape it on. Or play "let's pretend we got one here."

I tell you what, whytheheckme, you make sure you get your robot to do your situation, and I'll get my robot to do me and Rob's. Let's really give the ref's some headaches. (But don't tell WPI so to give them a heads up.)

Billfred

15-06-2007, 09:00

I've made it all the way to Boston South Station now. I'm not having good luck with trains this trip (four hours late leaving Columbia, five hours late getting to DC, getting on a Metro train that conked out a few stops from where I was to meet a friend, a less-than-sleep-inducing spot on the Regional to Boston that I nearly missed on account of a slow Metro trip back to Union Station), but I'm hoping the commuter train to Worcester will be kinder to me.

I'm officially ready to Rack 'n Roll (as soon as I dig out my closed-toe shoes).

Brandon Holley

15-06-2007, 10:36

Is that a challenge? <hey! no raised eyebrow smilie!>

Yeah, I'd be amazed too.

Sorry, I misunderstood the situation you set up. (Not that I'm supposed to be answering these questions!) I'm sure there is enough give in the spider leg to push it and squeeze a tube on. Maybe they'll take a popped tube and drape it on. Or play "let's pretend we got one here."

I tell you what, whytheheckme, you make sure you get your robot to do your situation, and I'll get my robot to do me and Rob's. Let's really give the ref's some headaches. (But don't tell WPI so to give them a heads up.)

You guys need to think outside the box...id say its totally plausible to see 2 teams score on the same row vertically on the side of the rack.

Rich Wong

15-06-2007, 10:48

Roger

17-06-2007, 06:59

You guys need to think outside the box

Ah, but I was! ;) Can't give away strategy before a meet, and all.

Well, I didn't do the "think" part -- 1629 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kuUp9Rvw8) did all that and inspired me. We had the code to do it but didn't have a place to test it. The spirit was willing but the robot was weak -- or something.

Bilfred -- South Station has internet connections? Gosh, it's really been a while since I've been there.....

Roger.

steveg

17-06-2007, 11:00

South Station has internet connections?

Yeah, they have wireless, but last I checked it wasn't free. The free wireless network there gave some history of South Station and the area.

-Steve

Nuttyman54

17-06-2007, 11:31

Yeah, they have wireless, but last I checked it wasn't free. The free wireless network there gave some history of South Station and the area.

-Steve

I was there on Thursday and was able to get free wireless.

As for backside rack scoring, I didn't personally see it, but I heard 1124 did it during a practice match. They never ran it during an official match though.

Uberbots

17-06-2007, 16:02

As for backside rack scoring, I didn't personally see it, but I heard 1124 did it during a practice match. They never ran it during an official match though.

And if we were sure it would have worked more often, we would have used it more :)
actually, we did it a couple times in Atlanta as well.

good job the the winning alliance btw

smurfgirl

17-06-2007, 21:34

And if we were sure it would have worked more often, we would have used it more :)
actually, we did it a couple times in Atlanta as well.

good job to the winning alliance btw

We also would have used it more often if the risk of breaking the robot by having it smash into a robot scoring on the other end of the field weren't so high...

Dan Petrovic

17-06-2007, 22:55

my favorite autonomous is still GUS's awesome Drive-by Autonomous. It worked a lot more often at this competition than at Beantown Blitz.

JamesBrown

17-06-2007, 23:18

So other than Andy and Jess who else won at Battle Cry, did any one get the alliances written down. At least who won and who were the finalists.

artdutra04

17-06-2007, 23:25

my favorite autonomous is still GUS's awesome Drive-by Autonomous. It worked a lot more often at this competition than at Beantown Blitz.A few minor tweaks to the PID-loop code later, we were achieving >50% success rate for our autonomous mode at BattleCry8.
(Which is pretty good, when you consider how often most robots who use the CMUcam for autonomous aren't able to score.) :)

Jeff Rodriguez

17-06-2007, 23:33

Winning alliance was 1153, 1685, 271
Finalists were (I think): 40, 121, 562

I have all the alliance pairings if anyone wants.

ahecht

18-06-2007, 10:51

The alliance pairings are all listed at http://www.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/results.html (with the exception of the #1 seeded alliance of 1124, 190, and 2104, which didn't compete in the 8th finals)

Roger

18-06-2007, 11:41

We also would have used it more often if the risk of breaking the robot by having it smash into a robot scoring on the other end of the field weren't so high...

That was my fear. We actually have a far-side autonomous and it probably would have worked. But at the end I'm glad we didn't -- at the bitter end it looked like the other alliance finally realized we were doing the same thing every time and went to full ramming speed. Actually might have helped us a little, knocking us in the right direction. I was the adult on our field team and I don't remember. I'm waiting for the videos so I can see it again. I am so not good at sports...

good job the the winning alliance btw

Thanks.

(Final carnage photo uploaded at photos)

Roger

20-06-2007, 14:31

Just out of curiousity, when are the videos going to be posted? No rush -- well, within reason.

Steve Kaneb

21-06-2007, 00:35

Just out of curiousity, when are the videos going to be posted? No rush -- well, within reason.

Well, the problem isn't that we have too few people to do it, it's more that each match takes about an hour of editing to get it down to the final hosted product. It takes a while no matter what we do. There's likely going to be little done in the next couple days, because we're all still recovering. Once we get into full-swing, everybody can expect the videos to come up in a reasonable amount of time.
Then everyone can see what a good job Peggy did with the live match video swapping (changing camera views and whatnot).

Athleticgirl389

21-06-2007, 09:24

my favorite autonomous is still GUS's awesome Drive-by Autonomous. It worked a lot more often at this competition than at Beantown Blitz.

i'd have to agree there. always made for an interesting match haha. u just love that it's called "drive by" lol.

i also have to give props to Team 555 in autonomous as well. pretty wicked.

George A.

21-06-2007, 14:26

i'd have to agree there. always made for an interesting match haha. u just love that it's called "drive by" lol.

i also have to give props to Team 555 in autonomous as well. pretty wicked.

*gasp* Ashley, we're from Jerz...we don't say 'wicked' :rolleyes:

Julia Magoolia

21-06-2007, 15:40

*gasp* Ashley, we're from Jerz...we don't say 'wicked' :rolleyes:

Apparently you do... and do you INCORRECTLY!
When in New England, wicked is an adverb, not an adjective!

Ex. "Wicked Awesome" not "Awesomely Wicked"

Dan Petrovic

21-06-2007, 16:11

Apparently you do... and do you INCORRECTLY!
When in New England, wicked is an adverb, not an adjective!

Ex. "Wicked Awesome" not "Awesomely Wicked"

Julia.... Wicked is more an adjective than it is an adverb.

You don't describe nouns or verbs with wicked. You describe adjectives with wicked.

Francis-134

21-06-2007, 18:55

Julia.... Wicked is more an adjective than it is an adverb.

You don't describe nouns or verbs with wicked. You describe adjectives with wicked.

Not to be a grammar Nazi, but the definition of an adverb is a word that modifies a verb, adjective or another adverb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverb
For example:
New England: That was wicked awesome; He finished the test wicked quickly
Non New England: That was a wicked sandwich; That shirt is wicked

Julia Magoolia

22-06-2007, 12:50

Julia.... Wicked is more an adjective than it is an adverb.

You don't describe nouns or verbs with wicked. You describe adjectives with wicked.

Your own sister agrees with me on that, not to mention the brother of the God of Biscuits!

But yeah, either way... School's out for the summer, my grammar are going to be bad again.

(I'm just kidding... typing that last sentence out made me cringe!)

Dan Petrovic

23-06-2007, 13:06

Ahh whatever.

I'm an engineer! Who needs correct English?

Athleticgirl389

23-06-2007, 20:32

Ahh whatever.

I'm an engineer! Who needs correct English?

Who needs English period?? :rolleyes:

ScoutingNerd175

24-06-2007, 02:40

Who needs English period?? :rolleyes:

Are you going to switch to speaking pig latin for the rest of the summer?

Roger

24-06-2007, 06:11

English? Who needs English? I'm never going to England! -- Homer Simpson

Peter Matteson

25-06-2007, 07:24

Ahh whatever.

I'm an engineer! Who needs correct English?

I'll remember that one next time I have to hack my way through a poorly worded specification or test report written by another engineer.

:rolls eyes:

If you really believe that you are extremely wrong. In engineering you need to learn proper technical writing, and even a bit of legal so you understand contracts and non-disclosure agreements.

artdutra04

25-06-2007, 23:38

Who needs English period?? :rolleyes:¡Muy bueno! Hay muchas otras lenguas en el mundo.

Può essere divertimento.

Иногда. Или, может быть, немного меньше.

ربما الانكليزيه جيدة على كل حال

Igpay atinlay ancay ebay unfay ootay.

私はこれらの特性を使用し常にたいと思った。

Jr pna nyfb gel hfvat EBG13 rapelcgvba.

Au revoir!

Dan Petrovic

26-06-2007, 00:50

I'll remember that one next time I have to hack my way through a poorly worded specification or test report written by another engineer.

:rolls eyes:

If you really believe that you are extremely wrong. In engineering you need to learn proper technical writing, and even a bit of legal so you understand contracts and non-disclosure agreements.

I know... I was joking...

Peter Matteson

26-06-2007, 07:20

I know... I was joking...

I know but some people actually believe that. :ahh: :D

Dan Petrovic

12-07-2007, 01:17

So...

how are those videos coming along? :cool:

Roger

17-08-2007, 13:02

So...

how are those videos coming along?
Just bumping this up as a reminder. I suspect they all will be back at WPI soon and raring to edit tape. :)

WernerNYK

18-08-2007, 11:38

Just bumping this up as a reminder. I suspect they all will be back at WPI soon and raring to edit tape. :)

Last I heard, the hard drive that had all of the match video on it wouldn't spin up anymore... :(

Athleticgirl389

19-08-2007, 14:41

¡Muy bueno! Hay muchas otras lenguas en el mundo.

Può essere divertimento.

Иногда. Или, может быть, немного меньше.

ربما الانكليزيه جيدة على كل حال

Igpay atinlay ancay ebay unfay ootay.

私はこれらの特性を使用し常にたいと思った。

Jr pna nyfb gel hfvat EBG13 rapelcgvba.

Au revoir!

ahhhh ok.... you may raise a good point there... English is easier to understand :p But that pig latin.... may start speaking in that from now on :rolleyes:

Roger

28-08-2007, 13:03

Last I heard, the hard drive that had all of the match video on it wouldn't spin up anymore...

Ouch! That does not bode well.

¡Muy bueno! Hay muchas otras lenguas en el mundo.

Può essere divertimento.

Иногда. Или, может быть, немного меньше.

ربما الانكليزيه جيدة على كل حال

Igpay atinlay ancay ebay unfay ootay.

私はこれらの特性を使用し常にたいと思った。

Jr pna nyfb gel hfvat EBG13 rapelcgvba.

Au revoir!

The list isn't complete until we get some Klingon! (Paging Alan Anderson...)