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2056isaac
26-04-2007, 15:18
Who's gonna win the 2007 IRI invitational? Will it be an alliance of all ramp bots or an all Canadian Team? Post who you think here and we'll see whose right, and whose wrong.

HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL IN IRI

GaryVoshol
26-04-2007, 15:20
Wouldn't that kinda depend on who gets invited? :p

2056isaac
26-04-2007, 15:21
Of Course, but obviously, if you think that a robot is good enough to win at IRI, that team'll be invited

Kellen Hill
26-04-2007, 15:43
I will just say that it won't be who you would expect.

for example last year

Koko Ed
26-04-2007, 16:02
This thread will be a bit more relavant in June than now.
By then we'll know who's who and have a good idea who will take the cake.

Karthik
26-04-2007, 16:07
I'll be bold and make an early pick.

To quote a wise friend of mine:

"Never bet against Beatty..."

IndySam
26-04-2007, 16:12
More importantly, who will win the talent contest?

J Flex 188
26-04-2007, 16:36
Don't we know that too well :rolleyes:

Failing them for whatever reason, I'm venturing a look northwards :rolleyes: . But then again, the biggest mistake in my FIRST career as a student was probably that very pick.


I'll be bold and make an early pick.

To quote a wise friend of mine:

"Never bet against Beatty..."

JaneYoung
26-04-2007, 16:58
have a good idea who will take the cake.

*ears perk up*
cake? chocolate?

Brandon Holley
26-04-2007, 16:59
Who's gonna win 2007 IRI invitational


the Indiana Robotics Invitational invitational ????

Lil' Lavery
26-04-2007, 17:03
I once doubted Beatty....just once...then this happened...
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/3ad/3ad0cdec0c5ba272a29d363f4faf3255_m.jpg


...never again will I bet against Beatty

Richard Wallace
26-04-2007, 17:05
I'll venture a "pick" (kinda):

Any team wishing to walk away from IRI with a winner's trophy must either pick or be picked by one of the following teams: 71, 111, 148, 1114.

I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.

Travis Hoffman
26-04-2007, 17:27
I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.

Hmm....with the Algorithm of Death banished for eternity and the overall higher level of quality among the teams most likely to be invited to IRI, I'd guess that even in the quarterfinals, there will be enough talent and strategic skill on both sides of the rack to keep the scoring balanced. 400 points is a whitewash. I'd definitely predict more 100+ to 100+ scores, though.

Now 400+ during qualifying? You bet.

Rick
26-04-2007, 17:30
I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.

A match score of 400 will be impossible with the teams in attendance. With the quality of invited teams, both offensive and defensive, I cannot see a row of 8 and 7 plus ramps made by an alliance. The tubes will go up extremely fast though. I could see ar ack with maybe only 1-2 legs left at the end.

Lil' Lavery
26-04-2007, 18:08
A match score of 400 will be impossible with the teams in attendance. With the quality of invited teams, both offensive and defensive, I cannot see a row of 8 and 7 plus ramps made by an alliance. The tubes will go up extremely fast though. I could see ar ack with maybe only 1-2 legs left at the end.

One or two legs left? There were occasions of 20 tubes scored at Championship. I think we'll see a full rack at IRI!

Greg Marra
26-04-2007, 18:44
One or two legs left? There were occasions of 20 tubes scored at Championship. I think we'll see a full rack at IRI!

I think that 22 tubes were scored in one match in the Newton Eliminations. I remember thinking to myself "man, the rack is going to be completely full with like a minute left on Einstein."

I was, umm, wrong.

Chris Fultz
26-04-2007, 19:15
Who's gonna win the 2007 IRI invitational?

haven't you been paying attention?

"we're all winners"....

:)

AdamHeard
26-04-2007, 20:00
If 254/968 and 330 show up, I'll put my money on them.

Koko Ed
26-04-2007, 20:03
If 254/968 and 330 show up, I'll put my money on them.

Has 254 ever come to IRI?

Cory
26-04-2007, 20:10
Has 254 ever come to IRI?

No. But we will be this year if we're selected.

Arefin Bari
26-04-2007, 20:36
More importantly, who will win the talent contest?

... Karthik Kanagasabapathy.=)

Koko Ed
26-04-2007, 20:39
... Karthik Kanagasabapathy.=)

I thought Copoli was charged with keeping him from ever getting into the talent competition.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/6dd/6dd512c360311bc1d6508e42bbfc8863_m.jpg

AdamHeard
26-04-2007, 20:41
No. But we will be this year if we're selected.

I'm not sure how the process works, but if you aren't selected... it's a sham.

Goober!!!
26-04-2007, 20:44
I have been telling some peole the best way to go is the best arm bot, the best defender, and the best "lifter"/ram bot with D will probably win! lol

Herodotus
26-04-2007, 22:13
I don't know but I'm extremely excited to be going. I didn't get to go last year because of circumstances but this year if we get selected I am most definitely going. As I understand it IRI is one of the toughest competitions around which makes everything all the better.

I think, however, that basing the prediction for the winner on previous performance isn't actually a good idea iin this case. Everyone going to IRI now has two months all alone with the bot in their shop to work on it, making it even better then before. Teams that had problems here and there during the season could now have amazing bots with amazing autonomous modes and other spiffy fun bits.

Aren_Hill
26-04-2007, 22:29
I once doubted Beatty....just once...then this happened...
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/3ad/3ad0cdec0c5ba272a29d363f4faf3255_m.jpg


...never again will I bet against Beatty

hey hey thats half us too:cool:
but the thing that won it last year was 3 amazing robots that were also compatible such as not being able to defend a perimeter shooter and a ramp camper.


almost everyone theres amazing you just have to form the right alliance and have a lot of luck

team 1094
27-04-2007, 08:05
I'll venture a "pick" (kinda):

Any team wishing to walk away from IRI with a winner's trophy must either pick or be picked by one of the following teams: 71, 111, 148, 1114.

I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.


if it's 148 and 1444 are their its going to be a challenge for team 1094

Protronie
27-04-2007, 09:54
One thing for certain... with the best of the best getting the invite.
Should be some intense matches.
Anyone know if its going to be web casted?

Wish I could make it... but this the busy season.

Taylor
27-04-2007, 10:27
Who's gonna win 2007 IRI invitational


the Indiana Robotics Invitational invitational ????

Probably the team that uses the first four digits of their VIN number as their PIN number at the ATM machine.

Kit Gerhart
30-04-2007, 19:56
I'll venture a "pick" (kinda):

Any team wishing to walk away from IRI with a winner's trophy must either pick or be picked by one of the following teams: 71, 111, 148, 1114.

I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.
I'd like to have another try with 71 and 179, which was our alliance at the Championship. I don't know that 179 plans to apply for IRI, though.

2056isaac
08-05-2007, 13:42
Now that we know who made it and who didn't (IRI's website (http://indianaroboticsinvitational.org/iri/)), we can much better geuss who's gonna win.

I'll venture a "pick" (kinda):

Any team wishing to walk away from IRI with a winner's trophy must either pick or be picked by one of the following teams: 71, 111, 148, 1114.

I'll venture another prediction: the winning alliance at IRI will record a match score greater than 400 points.

I say that if 1114 and 71 are in an alliance, you'd better watch out!!!
I'm geussing that the final match will have 1114, 71, and 217 against 41, 111, and 148 with a full rack and 60 bonus points per side.

41 and 1114 are gonna have a huge rivalry from 1114's arm getting teared off. (no offence to either teams)

See the 71 other teams in Indianapolis!!

Rob
08-05-2007, 14:18
We can only hope that Dr. Joe will do a set of predictions for this event!

Peter Matteson
08-05-2007, 14:59
... Karthik Kanagasabapathy.=)

The sun will come tommorow, tommorow...

Based on everything I've seen this season it will not be the alliance we all expect during alliance selections. Remember last year we all thought that 25, Simbots, & Killer Bees had it. That's why they play the game. Or as Jon Madden would say say, "The team that scores the most points will win."

Pete

Arefin Bari
08-05-2007, 15:23
We can only hope that Dr. Joe will do a set of predictions for this event!

Hey Dr. Joe, if you are reading this... let's get a set of prediction going for IRI 2007 at the end of June if you are not busy. With the team list given to us, it will be hard but hey predictions are fun. =)

Grant Cox
08-05-2007, 15:40
I say that if 1114 and 71 are in an alliance, you'd better watch out!!!
I'm geussing that the final match will have 1114, 71, and 217 against 41, 111, and 148 with a full rack and 60 bonus points per side.

41 and 1114 are gonna have a huge rivalry from 1114's arm getting teared off. (no offence to either teams)

See the 71 other teams in Indianapolis!!

That would be an incredible match... I can't say I would mind being with 1114 and 71 though :) whoever it is, it's going to be an unbelievable finals to watch. Many, maany good scorers in the lineup.. anyone else getting deja vu from the Galileo listing?

For predictions.. I'll agree with the "must be picked by 71, 111, 148, 1114" comment, but I'd add definitely add 233, 469, and 1902 to that list. Having a consistent auton will bump up teams like 111, 233, and 1902 significantly, something that looking at past performance won't be able to show. Honestly though, there are sooo maannnyyy high-class teams attending, it'll be next to impossible to predict 6 teams to make it to the finals (well, 8 now :P). If I were to throw in my "hopefuls," it's pretty much half of the list (45.. 47.. 254.. 330.. 703.. 1625.. 2056.. too many!)

It's gonna be great. I'll see yall down there :)

Nica F.
08-05-2007, 16:31
With all these West Coast teams making it to IRI this year, im hoping for a west coast alliance (at least 2 out of 3) taking the win.

Chris Fultz
08-05-2007, 16:50
With all these West Coast teams making it to IRI this year, im hoping for a west coast alliance (at least 2 out of 3) taking the win.


new rule ... "All alliance teams must be from different states" ;)

that would certainly add some complexity to the scouting process....

Chris Fultz
08-05-2007, 16:52
remember, also, that many teams will not be competing with their 2007 "season" drive teams. Some of the students have graduated, have jobs, and some schools do not allow "alumni" to travel with the team.

Always something to add a twist.

Richard Wallace
08-05-2007, 16:55
new rule ... "All alliance teams must be from different states" ;)

that would certainly add some complexity to the scouting process....Exception for Indiana teams? ;)

Peter Matteson
08-05-2007, 16:56
new rule ... "All alliance teams must be from different states" ;)

that would certainly add some complexity to the scouting process....

Thank goodness that gets rid of a Floridia, Michigan, or Indiana alliance too. Remember New England isn't one state.
(Yes some one actually asked the NERD crew if New England was a state, and what it was when I was at IRI last year.)

Lil' Lavery
08-05-2007, 16:58
new rule ... "All alliance teams must be from different states" ;)

that would certainly add some complexity to the scouting process....

I'm for it, it makes 116 a more attractive pick (we're the only Virginia team ;) ).

Sean Schuff
08-05-2007, 16:58
remember, also, that many teams will not be competing with their 2007 "season" drive teams.

We may not have our season drive team but for an entirely different reason. Our team uses IRI as an opportunity for all students from our team to take a turn at the controls. We (the mentors) usually spend the vast majority of our time being social with other mentors and allow the students to run the entire show.

I shudder to imagine what the veteran juggernauts are going to do to our aspiring drivers, operators and human players! :ahh: Be gentle!

Sean

Richard Wallace
08-05-2007, 17:00
(Yes some one actually asked the NERD crew if New England was a state, and what it was when I was at IRI last year.)I heard New England is a state -- of mind. Or flux. Or maybe confusion.

2056isaac
08-05-2007, 17:01
So. . .
Since Canada doesn't have states, our team can be allianced with any other canadian team!!! (a.k.a. 1114 since the Simbotics are the only other Canadian Team)

GO CANADA

lukevanoort
08-05-2007, 17:05
Its a shame the 2005 IRI #4 alliance can't reform. 1114, 71, and 25, that'd be a killer combination this year. (Or any year for that matter)

Koko Ed
08-05-2007, 17:27
Its a shame the 2005 IRI #4 alliance can't reform. 1114, 71, and 25, that'd be a killer combination this year. (Or any year for that matter)

Geez. Those three probably have the biggest targets painted on them at all times during matches (as in they are to be defensed no matter what) who do you defense when all three of them are together?

Looking over the list if I had the first pick in the IRI FF draft (comming soon) 1114 would probably be my top pick. They expected to walk away with gold in Atlanta and are itching to "prove themselves" and come away with the big victory. This year's game is designed so that it is nearly impssible to have a singualrly dominnat robot but 1114 is just about the closest this year to a dominant robot.

Best second round "steal" (good team that isn't on every CDers tounge as a dominant robot but could surprise alot of people). 1038.

Best third round steal (team's trophy case doesn't indicate what a nice peice of machinary it really is).1625. Look out for 116 as well.

ay2b
08-05-2007, 17:28
With all these West Coast teams making it to IRI this year, im hoping for a west coast alliance (at least 2 out of 3) taking the win.

By my count there's only four West Coast teams - 254, 330, 968 & 980 (and 701 as the first alternate). Not wanting to leave anyone out, I think it would be great all of them made it to the finals.


State Count
IN 24
MI 14
WI 5
CA 4
FL 3
OH 3
CAN 2
IL 2
MA 2
TX 2
AR 1
CT 1
ISR 1
KS 1
MD 1
MN 1
MO 1
NH 1
NY 1
RI 1
VA 1

Kit Gerhart
08-05-2007, 18:44
I'm not that familiar with this year's 1114 robot, but from what everyone is saying, they must be great. Therefore, a 233, 71, 1114 alliance sounds like something I'd like to be a part of.Geez. Those three probably have the biggest targets painted on them at all times during matches (as in they are to be defensed no matter what) who do you defense when all three of them are together?

Looking over the list if I had the first pick in the IRI FF draft (comming soon) 1114 would probably be my top pick. They expected to walk away with gold in Atlanta and are itching to "prove themselves" and come away with the big victory. This year's game is designed so that it is nearly impssible to have a singualrly dominnat robot but 1114 is just about the closest this year to a dominant robot.

Best second round "steal" (good team that isn't on every CDers tounge as a dominant robot but could surprise alot of people). 1038.

Best third round steal (team's trophy case doesn't indicate what a nice peice of machinary it really is).1625. Look out for 116 as well.

Lil' Lavery
08-05-2007, 18:47
I'm not that familiar with this year's 1114 robot, but from what everyone is saying, they must be great. Therefore, a 233, 71, 1114 alliance sounds like something I'd like to be a part of.

So would about 69 other teams, as the 4th member. ;)

AndyB
08-05-2007, 18:55
Lets see....

71, 111, 148, 33, 1902, 330, 233, 45, 2056, 1114, they are all pretty amazing from what I've seen.

You have some good lifters there too with 1501, 1555, 93, 703, and 48...

Keep in mind this is only from what I've actually seen.

Qbranch
08-05-2007, 18:55
Well..... 1024 trys out new drive teams for the next year of competition at IRI... so usually that means we finish in the bottom half... but who knows... anything can happen... :rolleyes:

1024 is also offering control system help at IRI if any new or existing teams need help on control system design, or just have a nagging problem with your robot thats been bugging you all season. Supposedly we'll have a pit near the field, so just look for the day-glo and bright blue robot. :yikes:

-q

Greg Needel
08-05-2007, 19:03
I think 1114 and 25 get together for a third year in a row and finally win it all.

Cowmankoza
08-05-2007, 19:06
I think 1114 and 25 get together for a third year in a row and finally win it all.

That would be a bit difficult since 25 isn't on the team list :D

Greg Needel
08-05-2007, 19:08
That would be a bit difficult since 25 isn't on the team list :D

I guess thats what I get for not looking at the team list carefully....

Nawaid Ladak
08-05-2007, 19:32
I'll be bold and make an early pick.

To quote a wise friend of mine:

"Never bet against Beatty..."

You gave that advice to me in Atlanta, what happened?

just pulling your leg

but i hope Karthik wins the talent show like arefin stated above

hopefully 111 webcasts the event, like they did for some of the regionals this year... for those of us who MIGHT NOT be able to come

(still deciding, $160 round trip from ORL to IND, + i need a place to stay)

btw: i predict 1114 avenges it's old arm and beats 48 in the finals

1114+2056+229 over 111+48+233

Chris Marra
08-05-2007, 19:49
You gave that advice to me in Atlanta, what happened?

just pulling your leg

but i hope Karthik wins the talent show like arefin stated above

hopefully 111 webcasts the event, like they did for some of the regionals this year... for those of us who MIGHT NOT be able to come

(still deciding, $160 round trip from ORL to IND, + i need a place to stay)

btw: i predict 1114 avenges it's old arm and beats 48 in the finals

1114+2056+229 over 111+48+233
Wow, my flight from BDL to IND would run $471. Looks like I'm driving...

EDIT: Might as well make a prediction: Wildstang gets its revenge (though, I don't know who 'wronged' them?), and wins with 469. 469 will be the picking robot, though Wildstang will seed high, but the Guerrilla-Ramps will give them the seeding advantage.

Koko Ed
08-05-2007, 19:55
I'm not that familiar with this year's 1114 robot, but from what everyone is saying, they must be great. Therefore, a 233, 71, 1114 alliance sounds like something I'd like to be a part of.

But impossible.
No way any of those robots last past the first round (unless all the teams come down with the worst case of bad scouting in the history of FIRST).

JackN
08-05-2007, 20:35
It is going to come down to auto hangers. The top eight will look a lot like this

1-1114
2-1902
3-330
4-67
5-254
6-968
7-111
8-233

The picking will give us alliances along the lines of

1114 330 45 1816
1902 233 229 503
67 254 2056 1625
968 111 1038 980
469 148 116 494
118 121 217 126
234 71 910 177
33 27 68 190

Expect 47, 48, 703, 1577 and 1816 to play spoiler to these picks, I could see some big moves. These are the teams that I think will shape up the final rounds, and this is what I think alliances will look like. You could see 968 go with someone else, but WildStang is such a good capper and should be able to hit in auto.

I know, really elaborate prediction, but once we get to this point I would pick number one over number two in the finals.

chaoticprout
08-05-2007, 20:45
still going to go with what i went with in atl, 330 + 1114 as long as one of them seeds first, it's over imo.

Taylor
08-05-2007, 20:46
I will state, for the record, that at least one Indiana team will be on the winning alliance, and at least two Indiana teams will be in the finals.

Herodotus
08-05-2007, 20:53
I can't really say for certain now. 1114 is definitely an awesome team, and no doubt they'll likely be in the finals. I also know from personal experience now that 330 is an absolutely awesome alliance partner and team as well, so they will likely be in the finals. But at Atlanta they decided not to form an alliance so who's to say they will do so at IRI. Also we did almost beat both 1114 and 330 when they were on the same alliance. I can't remember who was their third partner or unfortunately who our two alliance partners were in that match but it was one of the last qualifying matches on Curie and we only needed one more tube and our alliance would have beaten both 330 and 1114.

That doesn't diminish the fact that both are awesome teams, two of the best teams this year (if not the two best). But it does go to show that matches tend to be unpredictable.

Kyle Love
08-05-2007, 20:55
Beware of the dark horse. They will overcome any alliance.

Josh Murphy
08-05-2007, 21:01
Beware of the dark horse. They will overcome any alliance.

I agree, anyone can come away with the win.:)

Lil' Lavery
08-05-2007, 21:07
I'm picking with my knowledge of IRI history (since 2004), and guessing that either 190 or 177 will have either a gold or silver around their neck when all is said and done. Not sure how it's gonna happen, and by no measures are either of these teams a lock or even my favorites to win it, but strange things happen at IRI, and they just keep happening... :rolleyes:

Kellen Hill
08-05-2007, 21:31
From the looks of it there shouldn't really be a dark horse with all of these amazing teams coming. I think that any alliance last year could have won it because they were all well rounded. Considering the team list there most likely wont be a dark horse alliance.

Cowmankoza
08-05-2007, 21:33
From the looks of it there shouldn't really be a black horse with all of these amazing teams coming. I think that any alliance last year could have won it because they were all well rounded. Considering the team list there most likely wont be a dark horse alliance.

there are a handful of great teams going that havnt been mentioned in this thread yet, while i dont know about a dark horse alliance, a dark horse team can turn and alliance from well rounded to near perfect

AdamHeard
08-05-2007, 21:42
there are a handful of great teams going that havnt been mentioned in this thread yet, while i dont know about a dark horse alliance, a dark horse team can turn and alliance from well rounded to near perfect

195 and 522 come to mind as great examples of this last season.

Also, team 4 at la (both this season and last).

Karthik
08-05-2007, 23:37
This a ridiculously strong field. I think we could see a winner come out any of the spots one through eight. In my two years at IRI, I've noticed that teams coming off of some bad luck at championship always seem to come in to town with some extra motivation. For that reason, my two favourites to win are 71 (never bet against Beatty) and 148. 148 was definitely the best team not to win a regional this year. I expect these Texas gunslingers to come out on fire, putting tubes up like crazy.

Of course you can't overlook the rest of the West Coast invasion, especially 254, 330 (best robot in 2007) & 968.

Don't forget the Northeast, with two world champions, 177 & 190, and perennial powers like 121 & 126.

There's always Michigan. Teams like 27, 67, 68, 469, 494 & 503 among others will definitely be making an impact late into Saturday afternoon.

Then there's the Indiana teams, 45 & 234, trying to defend their house.

Can you believe I've mentioned 15 teams, without getting to Wildstang! Seriously, this is the deepest competition in the history of FIRST.

I'm expecting and hoping to see lots of matches where both alliances eclipse the 80 point barrier. Then again, I know there are a few teams dedicated to shutting down the overrated "offensive ballerinas".

I can't wait.

cbale2000
09-05-2007, 00:05
...(though, I don't know who 'wronged' them?)...

:rolleyes:


EDIT: Might as well make a prediction: Wildstang gets its revenge... ...and wins with 469. 469 will be the picking robot, though Wildstang will seed high, but the Guerrilla-Ramps will give them the seeding advantage.

I don't know, I'm seeing this as a "Round 2" of the West Michigan Regional myself... :yikes: Who knows, 302, 111, 1504 vs 469, 703, 494. It could happen again...... :rolleyes:

Oh wait... 302 isn't coming and 1504 is on the waiting list........ darn it. :o

Jeremiah Johnson
09-05-2007, 00:25
It is going to come down to auto hangers. The top eight will look a lot like this

1-1114
2-1902
3-330
4-67
5-254
6-968
7-111
8-233

The picking will give us alliances along the lines of

1114 330 45 1816
1902 233 229 503
67 254 2056 1625
968 111 1038 980
469 148 116 494
118 121 217 126
234 71 910 177
33 27 68 190

Expect 47, 48, 703, 1577 and 1816 to play spoiler to these picks, I could see some big moves. These are the teams that I think will shape up the final rounds, and this is what I think alliances will look like. You could see 968 go with someone else, but WildStang is such a good capper and should be able to hit in auto.

I know, really elaborate prediction, but once we get to this point I would pick number one over number two in the finals.

Move 233 up a couple of spots... their auton is very, very, very effective.

chaoticprout
09-05-2007, 02:06
I agree with Budda, 233 is in my top 5 for the year, (1114,330,968,254,233) They will do very well

Nica F.
09-05-2007, 02:36
By my count there's only four West Coast teams - 254, 330, 968 & 980 (and 701 as the first alternate).

Ah you're right, only 4 west coast teams, but that is 3 more than the previous years' average. :D

The west coast teams that are competing have a heck lot of reputation behind them.

Travis Hoffman
09-05-2007, 05:34
The increased importance of scoring in autonomous also increases the importance of defending in autonomous. A consistent auto defender could be just as important as an auto scorer, so if you don't cap well in auto, work on programming to block the other team's scoring attempts or shield your own alliance's capper from would-be blockers! Don't let the tube scorers have all the autonomous fun!

Which teams have the ability to consistently block auto modes? We've had some success, but I'm hoping a few offseason modifications will improve our success rate. :)

By the way, I've been known to drop the term "offensive ballerina" a few times in my day - ask Ken Patton :D - but by no means do I think these teams are overrated. In fact, many great scorers have "teeth" under the hood this year, and they are all obviously very adept at what they do. Given that, I know we'll be trying our best to continue our defensive efforts, with a few lessons learned in tow.

GaryVoshol
09-05-2007, 09:33
This a ridiculously strong field. I think we could see a winner come out any of the spots one through eight. In my two years at IRI, I've noticed that teams coming off of some bad luck at championship always seem to come in to town with some extra motivation. For that reason, my two favourites to win are 71 (never bet against Beatty) and 148. 148 was definitely the best team not to win a regional this year. I expect these Texas gunslingers to come out on fire, putting tubes up like crazy.

Of course you can't overlook the rest of the West Coast invasion, especially 254, 330 (best robot in 2007) & 968.

Don't forget the Northeast, with two world champions, 177 & 190, and perennial powers like 121 & 126.

There's always Michigan. Teams like 27, 67, 68, 469, 494 & 503 among others will definitely be making an impact late into Saturday afternoon.

Then there's the Indiana teams, 45 & 234, trying to defend their house.

Can you believe I've mentioned 15 teams, without getting to Wildstang! Seriously, this is the deepest competition in the history of FIRST.

I'm expecting and hoping to see lots of matches where both alliances eclipse the 80 point barrier. Then again, I know there are a few teams dedicated to shutting down the overrated "offensive ballerinas".

I can't wait.

And of course Karthik is far to gracious to add one more team to this list - 1114.

Here's hoping I will be able to arrange my schedule to volunteer, so I can view this stupendous event!

EricH
09-05-2007, 15:32
I'm picking with my knowledge of IRI history (since 2004), and guessing that either 190 or 177 will have either a gold or silver around their neck when all is said and done. Not sure how it's gonna happen, and by no measures are either of these teams a lock or even my favorites to win it, but strange things happen at IRI, and they just keep happening... :rolleyes:I'm going to say that one or both will be finalists, but no higher. For evidence: IRI 2005 (330) and 2006 (217). Now, I realize that that's old data and can change, I'm just saying that it probably won't.

Also we did almost beat both 1114 and 330 when they were on the same alliance. I can't remember who was their third partner or unfortunately who our two alliance partners were in that match but it was one of the last qualifying matches on Curie and we only needed one more tube and our alliance would have beaten both 330 and 1114.I remember you had 34 and we had 1732. 34 is #9 on waitlist and 1732 will be there. Can't remember your other partner, though.

I have no specific predictions. It's just too close to call. Infinite combination of alliances, and all very good. All I'll say is that no more than 2 dominant hybrids on one alliance (all the rest will be gone) and the others good offensive robots that can climb ramps. I will also say that none of the champions this year will be on the winning alliance. And, for the record, a bunch of 3+ match elimination rounds.

Lil' Lavery
09-05-2007, 15:38
I'm going to say that one or both will be finalists, but no higher. For evidence: IRI 2005 (330) and 2006 (217). Now, I realize that that's old data and can change, I'm just saying that it probably won't.


Go back a year more, to 2004, when 71 won both the IRI and Championship title. Three (or more) straight years of a champion getting a medal, two of it being silver.

Kit Gerhart
09-05-2007, 15:46
Go back a year more, to 2004, when 71 won both the IRI and Championship title. Three (or more) straight years of a champion getting a medal, two of it being silver.
There seem to be a lot of cases of Championship winning teams being runners-up at IRI. That was the case with 71 in the "balance the teeter totter" year. Also 330 was finalist in the '05 IRI against us (233) and 217 was finalist at the '06 IRI with us.

Chris Fultz
11-05-2007, 10:36
I am posting my selection for the winning alliance (all 4 teams) below.
Just for fun, I am also including the Final Match Score.

It is in magic "appearing type" that will not be visible to most CD viewers until 6 AM July 22.


Alliance Lead:
Team 2:
Team 3:
Team 4:

Final Match Score:

David Kelly
11-05-2007, 10:56
I don't know about you guys but I see a lot of blue there, Chris...

GaryVoshol
11-05-2007, 12:03
It is in magic "appearing type" that will not be visible to most CD viewers until 6 AM July 22.What time zone?

Jeremiah Johnson
11-05-2007, 12:11
What time zone?

Chris Fultz time zone... holidays (including IRI) are year round.

Tim Delles
11-05-2007, 12:57
So i finally decided to look at the dreadful list of competitors that are going to IRI. I compiled a list of the top 15 (in my opinion) teams that are going.

71 - Never bet against beatty. With there lose on Einstien this year its hard to think that they don't want more.
330 - The best robot at the Championship. There drive team knows exactly what to do and when they need to do it.
1114 - Do i need to say anything about these guys?
148 - As many people have said, i will say again. This team is the best team not to win a regional this year (they should have 2 regional golds)
190 - Can't deny that these guys are good. They are world champions. Those monsterous looking dual ramps and that arm are a nice little combo
1902 - This team doesn't look like a 2nd year team. Every match they come out and know what they are going to do (does it help there coach has been on Einstien a few times)
254 - If there is a team that i would ever bet for against beatty it would be the poofs. There robot is engineered perfectly, and there drivers know how to use it.
233 - World Champion Finalists. hmmm, great auto, great robot, great drivers. going to be yet another great showing.
67 - always a solid robot as they showed at the championship. watch for some good improvements.
234 - one of very few multi-regional champions this year. They came up short at the Championship. I'd like to see these guys go pretty far.
177 - The other World Champion that is at the event. You can't deny that these guys earned there spot at the championship, and what better to go with a championship and an IRI win.
48 - Great robot, and great drivers. they are going to be in the top of the big dogs.
1251 - This team can score. I'd watch for them to put up 4 or 5 a match (keeping up with the rest of these guys)
45 - hmmmm... scoring, scoring, scoring... thats all this team knows how to do.
2056 - this team is a rookie? They are 2 for 2 at regionals this year, and had a pretty good showing at the Championship for a rookie team. This team could just be that dark horse everyone is talking about.


So this is just my list of the top teams in my opinion. If all of these teams don't make the elimination rounds im going to be shocked.

But then again it is IRI so who knows whats going to happen.

***Thanks Sean for pointing out my mistake***

Lil' Lavery
11-05-2007, 15:00
Interesting how Tim has 254 ranked 7th, but 968 doesn't even appear on his list.
And I think he may have 1577 and 1574 mistaken. 1577 didn't cross any oceans this year, 1574 won Israel and competed in Atlanta (2nd seed on Newton).

Jim E
11-05-2007, 19:58
My money rides on 233. I've seen this team rise from 50th at FL regional to a finalist on Einstien. They will surprise you, and conquer you. Their scouting is top-notch.
I only wish 1523 was selected to compete. After looking at the team list though , I understand why. Are volunteer positions still open? It would be great to experience that Hoosier hospitality again from my youth within FIRST.:)

Joel J
11-05-2007, 20:26
My money rides on 233. I've seen this team rise from 50th at FL regional to a finalist on Einstien. They will surprise you, and conquer you. Their scouting is top-notch.
I only wish 1523 was selected to compete. After looking at the team list though , I understand why. Are volunteer positions still open? It would be great to experience that Hoosier hospitality again from my youth within FIRST.:)
I agree. Especially if they end up with 254, which is something I've been waiting two competitions to see.

My favorites:

254/968
330
1114
233
148
1251

Chris Fultz
11-05-2007, 20:37
Are volunteer positions still open? It would be great to experience that Hoosier hospitality again from my youth within FIRST.:)

absolutely - send an email through the website.

David55
12-05-2007, 06:22
I hope this dosen't sound arrogant, but we (team 1577) wouldn't be making the long trip if we didn't truly believe that we can compete against (and beat) the amazing teams that are coming to IRI. I don't know if any of you actually saw our robot in action (there are a few videos on youtube), so this gives us the element of surprise:D .

Taylor
12-05-2007, 07:24
I hope this dosen't sound arrogant, but we (team 1577) wouldn't be making the long trip if we didn't truly believe that we can compete against (and beat) the amazing teams that are coming to IRI.

YES!!!!! I love this attitude!!!! You just won yourselves a new fan (as long as you're not against us). If you doubt my excitement, just look at the inordinate amount of exclamation marks I just realized I've been using.

D.Bear
12-05-2007, 10:01
Personally, I believe that team 829-the Digital Goats, will be on the winning alliance.:)

efoote868
12-05-2007, 22:41
Wow, i'm kinda surprised to see 868 not in anyone's top lists... i'm almost willing to bet that we'll be seeded somewhere between 5-8, unless of course we use a freshmen/soph driveteam instead of our regulars. Even then, our robot has a pretty low learning curve.

Well, I'll enjoy flying in low under the radar, means we won't be defended as much :p (well, maybe our first 2 matches).
Anyhow, I think I'll be able to convince the mentors that our auton code will work, besides, the 15 point bonus will make it worth it.

hoorayforpink
12-05-2007, 23:41
I refuse to pick any robot(s) to win the whole thing, its just too much of a risk of looking like an idiot. As for being on an alliance with 254, it would be great but I also would like to see our robots against each other. I've been wanting to see a 233 vs. 254 match since the Vegas Regional. Although I can see the potential of 254/233 alliance....

AndyB
13-05-2007, 00:25
Well, there is a lot of interesting teams at IRI this year, and a lot of competition like their is every year.

Beatty vs. Wildstang is always a spectacle and I hope we get to see it.

1114 and 2056 are sister-teams I believe and both have the potential to tear apart the competition like they did at all the regionals they attended.

Tkats and Thunderchickens may get a chance to face off again like they did at St. Louis in the finals. If the chicken's 8-bar linkage arm holds up, the results could be different.

233 was just as dominant this year as they are every year, if not even more, I can't wait to see them again.

Exploding Bacon, though young, really took the competition by storm. They were one of the best at Florida, and again at Atlanta.

Charger Robotics, 537, and Martians, 494, have rediculous arms that can turn just about any direction, and both have had success this year.

Two other great teams are Hilltopper, 1732, and Fondy Fire, 2194. Hilltopper has a great elevator system and can get the job done consistantly. Fondy, a rookie, won the Wisconsin Regional, and took 1st in its division in Atlanta.

I've heard the CheesyPoofs can hold their own as well, and I'm sure I'm only missing like 40 or 50 other teams...

Aren_Hill
13-05-2007, 00:46
beatty has already faced wildstang in a qualification match at chicago we(1625) were with beatty and i played d on wildstang the entire time so beast won with our help