New iPods out [Archive]

artdutra04

05-09-2007, 15:40

IMHO,

I was hoping the Shuffle was going to get a 2G brother. My father has a Shuffle, (which was primarily used for the sound system in our Mountain Dewbot (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/tags/dewbot), since the Shuffles are like indestructible) and that 1G fills up fast.

What do you think? iPhone price dropped $200 to $399.
With the price drop, the 8G iPhone is actually beginning to look really attractive when compared to other smart phones. Before, it was cool and all if you calculated out the total costs over like two years, but now it's like more or less in the middle of the pack when it comes to smart phone pricing.

Koko Ed

05-09-2007, 15:47

I would buy an iPod touch if it was 30G.

Courtneyb1023

05-09-2007, 15:59

i love the colors of the new nano. its also really cool that the classic, nano, and shuffles will all be in stores "by this weekend"

texasranger

05-09-2007, 16:30

the ipod lineup completely was re-arranged to a price-level system rather than a "what ipod are you?" system.

the one that wants to spend under 100 on a ipod would get a shuffle.

one that doesn't want to spend more than 200 on an ipod would get a nano (and would be satisfied with its video capabilities and games {many complained that it didn't have video or games}).

those who want a lot of space but don't want to pay 300 bucks for a touch screen and less space would get the ipod classic

and the ones that want a touch screen and wifi and are not too concerned with space limitations get the ipod touch.

as an apple user, the ipod nano seems to be the ugliest ipod yet. Though apple got their christmas, valentines day, and saint patricks day colors ready for the holiday season. (some will complain that there is no "minorah engraving" option).

Schnabel

05-09-2007, 16:52

I like the features of the iPhone, but I hate ATT. I would go for the iPodtouch anytime because it gives me all of the features of the iPhone, only I won't have to mess with ATT and I could use my own service provider.

Michael Hill

05-09-2007, 17:21

Where is the "none" button? Seriously...

texasranger

05-09-2007, 17:32

sorry guys, i forgot to create an "iPod hater" button.

my apologies

Wayne C.

05-09-2007, 17:33

new Ipods out-

does this mean they are going to take all the old ones away.....

Michelle Celio

05-09-2007, 17:38

Alexa Stott

05-09-2007, 18:31

I really want the new iPod Touch I also like that the iPhones have gotten cheaper maybe by the time it is time for me to renew my contract they will be affordable :-P.

Does anyone else not like the new shape of the iPod nano? It doesn't seem to be that small anymore.

I agree. The nano just looks really, really weird now. However, there really isn't much difference in the size; the new nano is just more of a square than before, which could be a problem for those who liked the fact that the old one could fit in some pretty small pockets.

Size of the new iPod nano-5.665 in^2 (2.75 x 2.06)
Size of the old iPod nano-5.6 in^2 (3.5 x 1.6)

Both the 2nd and 3rd generation iPod nanos have the same thickness.

The new iPod nano is available in both 4GB and 8GB, as opposed to the old one being offered in only 2GB and 4GB (the 8GB was only available in black and eventually red as part of (PRODUCT) RED), though.

Pavan Dave

05-09-2007, 18:39

Alexa Stott

05-09-2007, 18:47

How much does it cost for the Ipod touch to access internet? Do you have to contract with ATT or something or is it completely WiFi? What are the "Fees" associated with the Touch? After that, I may consider getting it [once my current one breaks], so that looking up match scores and data is MUCH easier in Atlanta! :D

Please note that the iPod touch is *not* a phone and therefore, you don't need to have ATT, Verizon, etc. to use it. You just buy the product. Essentially, it's an alternative to the iPhone for people who don't like ATT/are comfortable with their current provider/don't like the large price tag involved with the iPhone (the 8GB iPod touch is $100 less than the iPhone, which is 8GB, and the 16GB iPod touch costs the same as the iPhone)/simply don't want new phone.

As far as I can tell, there are no fees associated with the iPod touch. Obviously, if you buy songs from the iTunes store, you will have to pay for those as you would if you bought them from your computer. I'd assume that, as long as the WiFi is free, you can use it. If the WiFi isn't free (like, say you were at Barnes & Noble, where they charge you for internet), you'd probably have to pay for it as if you were sitting there on your laptop.

Jeff Rodriguez

05-09-2007, 20:14

Today was a huge disappointment for me. I was reading along with Gizmodo's live coverage of the press event. I was looking to get a new iPod since my music collection has outgrown my 40gb. As soon as I saw that there was an iPod Touch, I was out the door heading off to the Apple store. (They wouldn't give me any info over the phone) I didn't know the price, or the capacities. I would get that information and make a decision when I got there. Since the normal iPods increased capacity and got smaller, I figured there would be at least a 40gb touch iPod.
After a stop at another electronics store for unrelated things, I got to the apple store. They weren't selling anything new, which was kind of suspicious. I checked back on Gizmodo (on an iPhone) to see what had been announced. I was incredibly disappointed that there wasn't a larger touch iPod.
I can't justify buying a 16gb touch for $400, that's a crazy price. I also can't justify a new iPod that doesn't add much functionality over the one I have. I'm holding out for the 80gb touch iPod.

Billfred

05-09-2007, 21:42

new Ipods out-

does this mean they are going to take all the old ones away.....Yes and no. When Apple flips the switch on a product from one generation to another, the old generation is generally made unavailable with very few exceptions. (The one I recall was that Apple continued to sell the PowerPC-based iBook through education channels after the Intel-based MacBook came out.)

However, Apple's web site does offer refurbished models, which generally range from the current generation to the one directly before. (And they do it cheap, too.) That section is usually in the bottom-right corner of the main store page.

Personally, if my iPod were to die today (knock on wood), I'd be looking at the iPod Touch, size depending on how much I could swing at the time. It fits my needs quite nicely; I find myself showing off photos and videos at times, and I often find myself lugging the MacBook around just to surf the web. If I can just pull out the iPod Touch and use Safari there instead, that's a load off my back (literally). Now to hope that USC's network can tolerate them.

Mike

05-09-2007, 21:49

Jeremiah Johnson

06-09-2007, 00:22

I was gonna buy my girlfriend a pink nano for our 6 month, now they have stupid beige web 2.0esque colors.

I mean I could buy one on like eBay, but then I can't get the engraving. Anybody know if Apple will do it after you buy it?

I know there are store all over that do engraving. There's a store in my mall that I had something engraved in...

Joe Matt

06-09-2007, 10:20

Wifi, but still less space than the Nomad. Lame.

Jeremiah Johnson

06-09-2007, 11:09

Wifi, but still less space than the Nomad. Lame.

Still more space than my mini. I'm probably going to be all over this like white on rice. Looks like a lot of fun, and I don't really have much music, but my mini is full as of last week. And it looks like crap. I think it's time to update.

Billfred

06-09-2007, 12:06

Wifi, but still less space than the Nomad. Lame.
The question, of course, then becomes "How much space do I actually need on this thing?"

I've got a 30GB 5G iPod, and it still (barely) holds my entire music collection, plus photos and videos. However, any particular scrutiny of what I actually listen to would yield that I generally find myself listening to maybe three or four albums over the course of a week. Perhaps a little more if I'm roadtripping, perhaps a little less if I'm perpetually in front of my MacBook (which generally means I'm not using my iPod). I was looking at an 8GB nano before, particularly for the battery life and lack of hard drive (the latter of which did in my much-loved 20GB 4G); I imagine I can most definitely survive on sixteen gigs (which, mind you, is a little more than half of my music, photos, and movies; I bet I can pare it down a bit more if I wanted to).

Throw in YouTube videos and Safari, and I'm there with bells white earbuds on.

robostangs548

07-09-2007, 08:44

I like the new iPhone, but what I don't like is how Apple is changing there whole "clean cut" look at technology and trying to blend in with everyone else. Sure, the products that they are coming out with are sweet, and I think that they will sell, but besides that, I think that Apple is changing its transcendentalist founded ways and slowly conforming to everyone else.... Last year, if I were to buy a Mac everyone would know it was a Mac (not that I would buy a Mac, I NEED CAD, and don't want to dual boot), but now, a Mac has nothing special, just another computer. The new iPod nano, just looks like something that creative labs came out with two years ago! The new iPod nano's do not impress me whatsoever. Apple used to be a company that you could go to, where you could get a device to stand out in the world, now they are trying to blend in. I just don't get it..... You may disagree with my thoughts, but I really think that Apple is slowly going to be just another HP, and it will just be another 80's incident all over again, They were taking for granite that they were the best, but now, they are just making products that they hope everyone will like, not based upon what they already like. I would tell them to stick to what everyone bought in the first place, and keep the clean design. (P.S. The only need for a 160gig iPod is if you are a professional DJ, or a serious music addict. I have 12 days of music, and only fill 20 of my 30 gig.)

Elgin Clock

07-09-2007, 09:57

(P.S. The only need for a 160gig iPod is if you are a professional DJ, or a serious music addict. I have 12 days of music, and only fill 20 of my 30 gig.)

I was about to disagree with this statement, as I consider myself a "serious music addict", until I ran through some numbers.

I have ~100 CD's.
Each has ~15 tracks.
(1500 total songs)
Each track is ~3 minutes long.
(~4,500 total minutes (75 hours btw.)

@ 128 kb for music, a minute is about a MB.

4500 MB = 4.39 GB for ~100 CD's worth of music!

Now, 128kb bitrate quality is just my preference, but at this rate my 30 GB Zune can hold plenty more than I need.
Makes sense I guess, unless I buy some converters, and throw on some DVDs or other videos.

For a real world example, 2,007 songs (random number I know, but that's what it is) only take up about 3-3.5 GB on my player now. Not a bad deal. I have some 30 second songs, and some 12 minute long ones.
But still not so bad.

robostangs548

10-09-2007, 11:48

I was about to disagree with this statement, as I consider myself a "serious music addict", until I ran through some numbers.

I have ~100 CD's.
Each has ~15 tracks.
(1500 total songs)
Each track is ~3 minutes long.
(~4,500 total minutes (75 hours btw.)

@ 128 kb for music, a minute is about a MB.

4500 MB = 4.39 GB for ~100 CD's worth of music!

Now, 128kb bitrate quality is just my preference, but at this rate my 30 GB Zune can hold plenty more than I need.
Makes sense I guess, unless I buy some converters, and throw on some DVDs or other videos.

For a real world example, 2,007 songs (random number I know, but that's what it is) only take up about 3-3.5 GB on my player now. Not a bad deal. I have some 30 second songs, and some 12 minute long ones.
But still not so bad.

See what I mean...... Do you really need the other 155 gigs?

Billfred

10-09-2007, 12:00

See what I mean...... Do you really need the other 155 gigs?You could always use it for other things--I once entertained the notion of a 160 GB iPod Classic acting as my backup hard drive on top of being my music player.

Elgin Clock

10-09-2007, 12:17

See what I mean...... Do you really need the other 155 gigs?

Yes.

You could always use it for other things--I once entertained the notion of a 160 GB iPod Classic acting as my backup hard drive on top of being my music player.

Exactly. Also, I don't know how large DVD's would be when formatted and compressed for use on an iPod or in my case a Zune. Never tried it yet.

Also, don't limit yourself on music or videos only for the iPod. You have it usable as a hard drive as Billfred stated. Why not use it as that. There are a lot of documents you need as the Robot season goes by. Why not put them all on the iPod, as well as all your Team pictures to share with potential sponsors if the need arises.

Bottom line is the largest iPod today is 160GB. In a few years, you will be complaining that 160GB is not large enough, and Apple will bump up to a larger capacity just in time. Apparently at this time (with most users it seems) they have raised the bar as far as capacity before the common user needs it.

Alexa Stott

10-09-2007, 19:57

You could always use it for other things--I once entertained the notion of a 160 GB iPod Classic acting as my backup hard drive on top of being my music player.

A lot of people do that, actually, even with the ones less than 160GB. They use maybe 8GB for music, and the rest as a backup hard drive.

Pavan Dave

10-09-2007, 21:53

You could always use it for other things--I once entertained the notion of a 160 GB iPod Classic acting as my backup hard drive on top of being my music player.

I use it as a portable hard drive. It works well especially when backing up programs or holding ISO files for future use or whatever it may be, and I only have a 30.