Midwest Regional

[Richard Wallace]

Looks like a great field shaping up for the 2008 Midwest Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&menu=false&event=IL). And it appears to be filling fast -- may actually be full as of today.

Based on history there should be lots of power there: 33, 48, 71, 111, 1114, 1625, and the list goes on.

[Karthik]

Looks like it filled up at 34 teams sometime this evening. Team 1114 is very excited about making our first trip to the Midwest Regional. As Richard described, the team list is rather impressive. We're hoping we can add a Canadian flair to what will be an amazing event. I can't wait.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Uh oh... I wonder where 648 was when they decided which regionals they were going to attend... Unfortunately, I have nothing to do with this debacle. I haven't been to a meeting since earlier this summer. This will also be the first Midwest Regional I've missed since joining an FRC team in 2002. Looks like a lot of fun...

[Travis Hoffman]

Looks like it filled up at 34 teams sometime this evening. Team 1114 is very excited about making our first trip to the Midwest Regional. As Richard described, the team list is rather impressive. We're hoping we can add a Canadian flair to what will be an amazing event. I can't wait.

1114 will be joined by 2 other Canadian teams - 843 out of Oakville, ON and 2386, rookies out of Burlington, ON.

I'm happy to see fellow Buckeye Team 1038 joining us at the event.

Team 48 is looking forward to Midwest and a visit to the city of Chicago - first time attending since way back in 1999.

[AndyB]

Thats rough, we were hoping to go to Midwest this year as well, but I guess we made a mistake in registering for our hometown regional first.

[Pat Fairbank]

I'm hoping to be able to get out of enough classes to go and spectate/hang out with 1114. I've never been to Chicago, and it seems like it's going to be quite the event.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

I think I just may make the trip up to Chi-town to watch/volunteer this one... worry free, even.

[Qbranch]

1024's first time in the Midwest regional... See you all there!

Hmmm..... but I wonder what the game is going to be... :confused:

-q

[Dave Campbell]

1038 is very excited to head back to the Windy City for what looks to be an amazing line-up of teams. It's nice that we can spend some quality FIRST time with all of our friends again.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

WHAT?!
They put midwest and detroit on diff weekends this year!?
and Ken didnt get into Midwest :(
I must have a talk with him about that. :P
I miss you midwest, Havnt been there since '05

(maybe its cuz he only registered for one)

[GaryVoshol]

WHAT?!
They put midwest and detroit on diff weekends this year!?
and Ken didnt get into Midwest :(
I must have a talk with him about that. :P
I miss you midwest, Havnt been there since '05

(maybe its cuz he only registered for one)
You didn't get into Detroit, either. See you at Great Lakes.

[Dan Petrovic]

...stacked much?

I saw this list and my jaw dropped.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

You didn't get into Detroit, either. See you at Great Lakes.

We volunteer at detroit EVERY year since it started. Thats what i meant by that.
When detroit and Midwest have been on the same weekend since '06, we havnt been able to do midwest because we volunteer

[Nica F.]

If things go as planned I'll be able to volunteer at this event! :D
This regional looks extremely exciting this year, hopefully I'll be able to make it.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

I'm jelous that 648 won't be able to almost win Midwest again... LOL! What could have been... :D

[Aren_Hill]

All i have to say is most week one regionals aren't that intense due to the fact teams don't have there game down, yet this one more than half of the teams are known for exactly that, having there game down. Especially the ones who make practice robots holy moley

im excited

[Jimmy Nichols]

I'm happy to see fellow Buckeye Team 1038 joining us at the event.

Team 48 is looking forward to Midwest and a visit to the city of Chicago - first time attending since way back in 1999.

Team 1038 was glad to see our friends from 48 was going to be joining us at Midwest. Let's show the Windy city how us OHIO teams play FIRST.

See ya in Chicago!

[Matth3w]

Hello everyone :) I checked the Midwest regionals (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=IL&sort=teamnum) page recently, there appears to be a total of 41 teams and 10 first year rookies, including ourselves. Our school is less than a mile from the IIT campus, and I didn't know that there would be so many teams travailing here from so far away. I cant wait for the regionals, it looks like lots of fun.

[insanehippoz]

So a little more than a month to go! We are getting really excited!!!
But I have a question to any one that has previously gone to this event what kind of food is there at the UIC Pavilion, if any? And we are thinking about ordering pizza Thursday night does anyone have suggestions about which place to order from? Thanks

[k4r3n2]

Food at the UIC Pavillion is pretty bad, although I think that it's much the same for any big sports venue. There are a bunch of resturants in the area, though, so if you want to walk a short ways in the Chicago cold to get lunch, that would probably be your best bet!

As far as pizza goes, Chicago is known for its pizza, or so my parents tell me :) If you're staying at a hotel, you should probably just ask at the front desk - I don't know what's around the area specifically.

Looking forward to seeing everyone in two (ish) weeks!

[Bill Beatty]

You can preorder lunches which will be brought into the UIC pavillion.

Pre-Order Lunches for the Midwest Regional

Teams may now pre-order lunch for the Midwest Regional. Instructions are at the bottom of the form. All team lunch orders and method of payment must be faxed/mailed by 12:00pm on February 13th, 2008.

http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/regionalevents.aspx?id=430 by clicking on the pre-order lunch form link for the Midwest Regional!

Mr. Bill

[egoamopunkrock4]

Hey, can anyone point me towards information about teams that are going to the Midwest Regional...it's time to kick scouting into high gear!

[s_forbes]

Hey, can anyone point me towards information about teams that are going to the Midwest Regional...it's time to kick scouting into high gear!

The Blue Alliance = best team info source ever.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/event.php?eventid=138

[bhaiu116]

503 is looking forward competing for its fourth regional chairman's award at the Midwest Regional. The team list is really awe-inspiring, looks like most of the teams from Einstein the past few years decided to show up in Illinois. I look forward to some tough competition, good luck all! :D

[Kellen Hill]

I can't wait for Midwest!!!

I have to watch the webcast on friday but I will be there on saturday ready for some action packed matches. We are in for some fun.

[Qbranch]

This is the FIRST time (*chuckle*) that 1024 has ever gone to Chicago. Sounds like it's huge... like... multi-field huge... Is this true? I've herd there are three fields.

1024 will see you all bright and early Thursday!

-q

[martschr]

the bomb squad cant wait to get to Chicago either.:D

[Meredith Novak]

Team 16 is very excited to be returning to Chicago for the first time since 2003. Remember our "Stack Attack" robot? It was low and fast and got up the ramp in automous in under 6 second. The Baxter engineer, Brandon Padgett, who was the design leader for that robot is back with us this year and will be coaching our drivers. So we're low and fast and can't wait to be back at Midwest!

[Laxphan1525]

This is the FIRST time (*chuckle*) that 1024 has ever gone to Chicago. Sounds like it's huge... like... multi-field huge... Is this true? I've herd there are three fields.

Midwest is at the UIC Pavilion we generally have a small practice field set up sponsered by the wonderful 111 wildstang people however there is only one competition field. Looks like 1024 had a little fun with the pipe bender this year I can't wait to see that double fisher price planetary/ tough box gearbox up close and personal.

As for 1525 Warbots we have adopted a new nickname this year as the wicked wabbits or W3. We can't wait to start the competion up this week. It looks like its going to be a difficult regional this year (although it generally is). We just got our stickers the other day and they look pretty sweet. We will be handing the stickers out at the Midwest Regional. See ya all thursday.

[Jonathan Norris]

is Wildstang going to webcast the practice rounds today??

[Kyle Love]

is Wildstang going to webcast the practice rounds today??

I was wondering that myself, I've been periodically checking the NASA webcast site, no regionals up as of 1015 AM EST. I can't wait to see the BEAST.

[T3_1565]

I'm guessing no as it is now 10:35 (enough time for two matches) and nothing yet. I was really hoping to see some of these bots :(

[Josh Murphy]

I'm guessing no as it is now 10:35 (enough time for two matches) and nothing yet. I was really hoping to see some of these bots :(

They are an hour behind us so it is only 9:35 there in chicago.:)

[johnr]

looks like az regional got a last minute webcast together. it is on ustream. nothing on air yet.

[Josh Murphy]

looks like az regional got a last minute webcast together. it is on ustream. nothing on air yet.

Arizona is next week.:)

[AndrewMorrison]

I can't wait to see the BEAST.


You and me both, Kyle.

[johnr]

sorry about that. i should of said.'a week and 2 hours behind.':o

[Zuhaib Ali]

Back to the topic, when is the webcast going to start because im eagerly waiting to watch the powerhouses go at it?

[65_Xero_Huskie]

I dont think Wildstang is gonna do practice day

[Alex Cormier]

I dont think Wildstang is gonna do practice day

haven't they in the past?

[Brandon Holley]

im def not feelin the lack of webcasts today

[EricH]

I dont think Wildstang is gonna do practice day
I don't think so either. I just checked, and it says to come back when the event is going on. (Translation: tomorrow morning...:()

[Alex Cormier]

I don't think so either. I just checked, and it says to come back when the event is going on. (Translation: tomorrow morning...:()

checked where?

[DanDon]

checked where?

http://www.midwestfirst.org/live.php

[T3_1565]

the midwest regional site here (http://www.midwestfirst.org/live.php)

Edit: beat me... darn

[Jonathan Norris]

http://www.midwestfirst.org/live.php

gerr... real player.... i thought that was dead already.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Hmm, Oh well, guess ill have to wait until tomorrow :(

[d.courtney]

gerr... real player.... i thought that was dead already.

Far from it, iTunes and Real Player almost have the same size user base, the big difference is that iTunes is gaining ground (thanks to iPod), and Real is losing ground. The real winner at the moment though is Windows Media which has the most usage, but it too is losing some ground.

[Ninja]

Yes! My team struck the first blow today in practice.

In autonomous mode the robot collided with another!

[ALIBI]

Hopefully it was at least from the other alliance!

EDIT: Not that I would encourage that kind of behavior.

[gurellia53]

So whats the competition look like so far?

[ShaneP]

NASA UPDATED!

http://robotics.nasa.gov/events/2008_frcwebcasts.php

EDIT: Only New Jersey is running. Midwest isn't up yet.

[CarterM]

Well, the Midwest Regional doesn't work atm...and the New Jersey one has fbombs all over their live "sound tracks".....Hurry up 111!!!!

[AJ R]

I got some video from Midwest for not even a full match, but audio works.

[Laaba 80]

I got some video from Midwest for not even a full match, but audio works.

Is their webcast up? I cant watch it because I dont have Real player yet.
Joey

[ShaneP]

Midwest is up, but unstable:

http://robotics.nasa.gov/events/2008_frcwebcasts.php

EDIT: seems to be alright now.

[DanDon]

Is their webcast up? I cant watch it because I dont have Real player yet.
Joey

Webcast is up for me..

<---- watching Jersey and Midwest at the moment ^_^

[Branden Ghena]

How are you watching both at once if they are both RealPlayer streams?

[ShaneP]

How are you watching both at once if they are both RealPlayer streams?

New Jersey plays in WMP. Midwest in Real.

[Branden Ghena]

Oh thanks.

[Vikesrock]

I only saw the end of that match, did 1114 really get 10 laps?

Which bot where they?

[Koko Ed]

1114 is one sharp piece of equipment.
I can't wait to see it in person.

[DanDon]

Can't say that I'm surprised...but 1625 and the red robot last match (1114, I believe?) look amazing! Great match with great tempo.....aaaaaaaand a ball shot at the scoring table :D!

[Mr. Lim]

Was that Winnovation that just lit up that last practice match?

[Justin Montois]

Why aren't they seperating the practice matches? Just one 240 Second match?

I would think teams would complain about this format limiting Hybrid practice. I would.

[DanDon]

Let me just say....Winnovation and Simbotics just put on a show to be proud of! Hurdle after hurdle after hurdle ^_^....sure lit up my sore eyes after some of the other matches at New Jersey and Midwest.

[Kellen Hill]

That was Winnovation!! And the match i just watched we got 7 hurdles and screwed up on two other ones. I can't wait to get there tomorrow!

But I guess the matches are longer.

[Vikesrock]

Looked like 1114 had a little trouble getting the balls down in that last match. But once they got them down it was off to the races.

Winnovation was amazing as well. Those two robots should definitely in the mix as the competition winds down on Saturday.

[James1902]

I don't know what team that was, the blue allaince shooter, but they rocked that match!! Plus 1114 was impresive as ussal. This is gonna be a great regional:D

[Vikesrock]

I don't know what team that was, the blue allaince shooter, but they rocked that match!! Plus 1114 was impresive as ussal. This is gonna be a great regional:D

That was Winnovation (1625)

[Mr. Lim]

This regional is really bringing it. Was that a rookie team on the blue alliance that hurdled a bunch of times? 23XX? For the life of me I can't read the numbers...

[lukevanoort]

For those of us that weren't fortunate enough to be able to watch the webcast, did anyone manage to get some pics of 1114 and 71's robots?

[Drwurm]

This regional is really bringing it. Was that a rookie team on the blue alliance that hurdled a bunch of times? 23XX? For the life of me I can't read the numbers...

yeah, i want to know as well. I was on the edge of my seat when they placed that ball. Looks like they had a dead battery at the end though.

[s_forbes]

I knew 1625 would do good, one of my favorite robots so far! I can't wait to see 1114, especially after reading these recent posts.

How did 16 do? (one of my other favorites)

[David Brinza]

I knew 1625 would do good, one of my favorite robots so far! I can't wait to see 1114, especially after reading these recent posts.

How did 16 do? (one of my other favorites)I hope the Bomb Squad team members can provide some details. According to an inside source ;), Team 16 figures to be a factor in the MWR: today their robot demonstrated good speed, maneuverability, ball pick-up and shooting capabilities.

[T3_1565]

anyone who saw the webcast, can you guys inform me on what type of bot 1114 is? a shooter or a arm bot?

[Koko Ed]

anyone who saw the webcast, can you guys inform me on what type of bot 1114 is? a shooter or a arm bot?

Am arm bot that shoots.:D

[Vince lau]

Am arm bot that shoots.:D

:eek:

guess i'll be watching the webcast at work tomorrow

[lukevanoort]

Am arm bot that shoots.:D
Really? Now I'm very interested. Is it an exceedingly fast arm (how my team and 1523 are doing it), something more like 1625 with a kicker in the gripper, an arm-bot with a shooter as a secondary mechanism, or something so amazingly brilliant that it can't be described with mere words?

[Jonathan Norris]

:eek:

guess i'll be watching the webcast at work tomorrow

1114 design this year is certainly one to watch, i'll place my bets already if 1114 and 1625 get together on Saturday its over... (and i haven't even seen 71 yet... yea i know never bet against hammond). These two bots with there sick kicker grippers are just dominant.

[Kellen Hill]

Yeah, match 56 looks fun with 1625 and 1114 together, and 1625 has to play Wildstang 3 times in a row tomorrow. That should be fun!

[Dan 1038]

Just got back to the hotel after a long day of watching practice, here is one guys opinion on the power-bots here this year:

1114 - Hands down, the best I have seen here so far. Can do a lap in auton, great speed, great ball aquisition, and can shoot the ball halfway down the field.

33 - The killer bees have a great bot again, cool break away arm which lets it keep going after releasing for a hurdle.

16 - Cool shooter, came out weak in the beginning but got strong as practice went on.

1024 - A cool shooter/arm hybrid, one to watch!

111 - WildStang came out of the gate a little slow, but got better. Can place on the rack and hurdle.

101 - A cool shooter arm - yes the arm shoots! Curious to see how they do tomorrow.

Other notables - 2358 and 1038. Very curious to see how this works out! I will have a ton of pics up Sunday, can't upload them until I get home...

[T3_1565]

I am now more interested in seeing the prelims tomorrow then I was, if that is possible :eek: :yikes: lets hope its good!!

[BBnum3]

For all of you out there who are curious about 71: I talked to a friend of mine who was at Midwest today and he said that the Beast was some sort of surgical tubing-powered catapult launcher with swerve on the drive train side of things.

[Aren_Hill]

1114 is very very much like us, with a roller gripper and a puncher at the back of the gripper, amazingly fast.

As far as the beast goes, picture 118 but full size base with beasts swerve, very very similar launcher and pickup to 118 but no turret.

[Farrett40]

How could someone who can't watch all day, like me for instance, set up a computer and an external hard drive to capture and save the live feed from Midwest for later viewing? I really want to watch a lot of the matches and get a feel for the game, along with the fact that a lot of teams at Midwest will be at both of our Regionals. If anyone knows how I can set a computer up to do this, I would greatly appreciate it.

[TheOtherGuy]

If you already have the hard drive space, get something like VLC player (link (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html)). You can watch streams and save them at the same time in any file format or codec you like. At least, it kinda worked when I tried ;)

Disclaimer: I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I've just tried this today and it worked...

[jgannon]

As far as the beast goes, picture 118 but full size base with beasts swerve, very very similar launcher and pickup to 118 but no turret.
It's worth noting that the pickup feature of that robot was not actually demonstrated today.

[Vikesrock]

If you already have the hard drive space, get something like VLC player (link (http://vlcplayer-download.info/?gclid=CO-vrey76JECFSW7iQod8SGRow)). You can watch streams and save them at the same time in any file format or codec you like. At least, it kinda worked when I tried ;)

Disclaimer: I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I've just tried this today and it worked...

Any clue about how much disk space per amount of time this used?

[TheOtherGuy]

No idea.... I recorded ~100 seconds and that equated to 10 mb (kinda large!...) You can, however, select the file type and codecs for video and audio, so you may be able to make that smaller (the one I tested was an .avi with mp4 encoding (I think, I'm no expert at this, believe me!))

[Farrett40]

Do you know of any players with that capability that don't cost money? I like my money. :D

[TheOtherGuy]

Hmm... It appears I linked to the wrong site (possibly)

Here's the actual free one: http://www.videolan.org/vlc (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html)

[gurellia53]

Do you know of any players with that capability that don't cost money? I like my money. :D

VLC is free and open source

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[ShaneP]

If you already have the hard drive space, get something like VLC player (link (http://vlcplayer-download.info/?gclid=CO-vrey76JECFSW7iQod8SGRow)). You can watch streams and save them at the same time in any file format or codec you like. At least, it kinda worked when I tried ;)

Disclaimer: I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I've just tried this today and it worked...

If that doesn't work, Real Player has a record feature that allows you to do the same thing - record streams as they play live.

I recorded a 4m 26s clip today that was a little under 4MB. Same quality as the live stream. Unfortunately, Real Player is the only program which you will be able to watch the recording in, as it records in IVR format. (Internet Video Recording)

Another possible issue is setting up a stream to record for a long period of time. The live streams tend to freeze up, or cut out sometimes. Without being there to restart the stream, you might miss a large sum of things.

Maybe try having a friend record it for you.

[Nawaid Ladak]

Yeah, match 56 looks fun with 1625 and 1114 together, and 1625 has to play Wildstang 3 times in a row tomorrow. That should be fun!

so, you must have the scedule

i would love to see it, wanna watch some rivalry matches (111 v 71) any of those tomorrow?

Thanks In Advance

[Vikesrock]

No idea.... I recorded ~100 seconds and that equated to 10 mb (kinda large!...) You can, however, select the file type and codecs for video and audio, so you may be able to make that smaller (the one I tested was an .avi with mp4 encoding (I think, I'm no expert at this, believe me!))

That's actually not bad, actually sounds about right. That's 360 MBs per hour, while a bit large for video of that quality, it isn't all that outrageous.

[Kellen Hill]

There is actually a thread that has the match lists attached to it.

And it appears that 71 and 111 will have to wait for elimination to meet each other on the field.

[Eric L]

I'm sorry if it has already been posted or if i missed something, but can someone please post a copy or link of the match schedule.

Thank-you

[A_Reed]

A thread was already started here (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65249)

[Cory]

This event is going to be awesome.

So awesome that I just dragged myself out of bed so I can get to work by 7 AM my time so I can watch/record the webcast.

[A_Reed]

The Web cast Is up!

Matches should be starting soon. good luck to all and I am hoping to see some of my teams matches between classes today.

-peace

[Alex Cormier]

Webcast is up! Yay!

does it have to be viewed on real player? can it be on any other?

[A_Reed]

It is only available on Real, it is being broadcast as a .rm file.

[T3_1565]

I don't have real player at school :(:(:(

[AndyB]

Anybody else having trouble connecting to the webcast. I keep getting a "Server does not have a DNS Entry" message.

[Spencer E.]

Anyone else having trouble watching the webcast?

[A_Reed]

yeah...Mine just blanked on me and I haven't gotten it back yet...I have the same error.

EDIT: it's up again

[Jonathan Norris]

does anyone know how to get the stream working in VLC?? becuase the website just gives me a php file and not the .rm link...

[brentwcc]

Ya i cant get it to work either, i went to the midwest regional site and to the first site niether work, anyone no how?

[Spencer E.]

Noooooo, first the NJ regional stops working and now Midwest :( I hope I get to see some robots today

[Ali Ahmed]

Yeah, I'm having problems too. I need to see a real match!!!!

[sebas2mil]

I know

it was up and after Paul left it went down

[Cory]

D'oh. Hope it starts working soon. I really want to see Match 4

edit: and it's back up!

[Barry Bonzack]

I just downloaded the new real player from www.real.com but it doesn't seem to be working. Do I have the wrong version?

[Cory]

I just downloaded the new real player from www.real.com but it doesn't seem to be working. Do I have the wrong version?

I downloaded Real 11 gold yesterday and it works for me

[Vikesrock]

Working for me in Media Player Classic

[Barry Bonzack]

I'm getting an error message "You can not receive this content. You do not have enough network bandwith"

What?

[T3_1565]

Working for me in Media Player Classic

how did you manage that???

[brentwcc]

Hey it just started working, i just watched a matcch:)
here s the link that worked
http://www.midwestfirst.org/live.php

[Vikesrock]

how did you manage that???

I have so many codecs now, I have no idea where each comes from anymore, but it might be Real Alternative? MPC is different than WMP just to make sure there are no confunsions.

50 penalty pts in the first match!!! Wow.

[Ali Ahmed]

Man, -40 for penalties, that kinda sucks. Wonder what they were for.

[Branden Ghena]

So is it just me or are you guys yelling "ZOOM OUT!" at your computer.

I wish that the cameramen would just give us a field view most of the time.

[Ali Ahmed]

So is it just me or are you guys yelling "ZOOM OUT!" at your computer.

I wish that the cameramen would just give us a field view most of the time.

I'm in agreement.

[Bongle]

Wow, that last match with 1625 was stunning. Two teams had really good launchers. Finals at this regional should be amazing to watch.

Next up, the 2008 debut of 1114.

[Jonathan Norris]

wow 1625 is really good, 71 looks good but not as good as 1625 or 1114. alot like 118 without the turret, their pickup is a bit shakey compared to the roller claws like 1625, 16, 1114.

[J Flex 188]

I am completely impressed by 1625 in the last match that I just saw. This is not really an objective or an informed opinion, but an opinion nonetheless. There was significantly less field traffic interference than I expected. Were there still 6 robots out on the field?

[A_Reed]

ahh...nice 1114 is up, should be a good match.

[Chris27]

So did anyone figure out how to save the stream using VLC. I don't want to miss seeing us kick some butt but I have exams to study for...

Go 1625! :)

[J Flex 188]

Nice and efficient match from 1114. In the face of some large traffic, they kept their cool and followed some decent strategy. The bonus for having the trackballs on top at the end was just that little bit of insurance, but shows the kind of thinking on the field that they are known for. 1024 looked like they were all business out there too on a losing cause.

Good match altogether!

[Scott L.]

How to save stream using VLC
File open, network, http/https/ftp/mms, paste link in that field, select stream save, settings, select play locally and file, enter path and name of file, under transcoding select video-h264 and audio-mp3 :D than click ok, ok

That should work.

[Jonathan Norris]

wow Stang is alot tipper then I thought...

[Cory]

Nice and efficient match from 1114. In the face of some large traffic, they kept their cool and followed some decent strategy. The bonus for having the trackballs on top at the end was just that little bit of insurance, but shows the kind of thinking on the field that they are known for. 1024 looked like they were all business out there too on a losing cause.

Good match altogether!

I think 1114 is the best bot I've seen so far, but I thought that was a pretty poor showing considering how much better I know they can do.

1625 was on FIRE in their first match. That was one very impressive showing by them. I'd be shocked if they aren't in the finals tomorrow.

[Joe Ross]

Anybody else having trouble connecting to the webcast. I keep getting a "Server does not have a DNS Entry" message.

I get that at work because the firewall blocks real (and almost everything else)

[AndyB]

Nice match #9.

I still am going to put my money on Beatty. Did you see them at the end of the match? I think they were going to try and launch over the divider and the overpass...

1625 was pretty impressive as well again.

1024 looks pretty solid as well.

[Branden Ghena]

1024 just pulled off one killer hybrid mode. 5 lines in 15 seconds WOW!

[AndyB]

"15 seconds of preprogrammed goodness..."

Haha, what a line.

[Cory]

I really like the new scoreboard a lot. It has a lot of useful information in a small space.

Team numbers are kind of blurred, but readable.

Shows the score, number of laps done by each team, and number of hurdles per ball, as well as time remaining.

Much better than the first graphic they had last year!

[Ali Ahmed]

I'm seeing a lot of "going backward" penalties.

[Tottanka]

what's the direct link for the webcast?
every time i run it mozzila tried to download the php file instead of running it...

[Vikesrock]

what's the direct link for the webcast?
every time i run it mozzila tried to download the php file instead of running it...

Yeah it's a bit wacky you can either rename the php to .ram or use this link
rtsp://live.wildstang.org:554/broadcast/midwest.rm

[J Flex 188]

Hmm, this much I agree with you based on their own personal standards and knowledge about just how fast and how efficient that robot can be. I'll chalk it up to first match first regional gremlins for now, but knowing that team, that would just be an excuse and they'll be pushing themselves all the more.


I think 1114 is the best bot I've seen so far, but I thought that was a pretty poor showing considering how much better I know they can do.

1625 was on FIRE in their first match. That was one very impressive showing by them. I'd be shocked if they aren't in the finals tomorrow.

[Vikesrock]

Hmm, this much I agree with you based on their own personal standards and knowledge about just how fast and how efficient that robot can be. I'll chalk it up to first match first regional gremlins for now, but knowing that team, that would just be an excuse and they'll be pushing themselves all the more.

1114 just had a pretty solid match. At least they did if they were trying to grab a penalty and hurdle for the opponent as their first action (looked pretty intentional).

[Tottanka]

Yeah it's a bit wacky you can either rename the php to .ram or use this link
rtsp://live.wildstang.org:554/broadcast/midwest.rm
it says that a "general error has occured"

[Jonathan Norris]

yea even their second match wasn't a great one for them, hurdling a red ball?? unless they were trying to score for their oponents (that early in the match i doubt it) it was a very uncharacteristic mental mistake for them... and it looks like it cost them some pentalty points.

[Vikesrock]

it says that a "general error has occured"

:( That's the link contained in midwest.php.ram
Worked fine for me

[Cory]

Did it just go down for anyone else?

[Vince lau]

yes it went down for me too

[Vikesrock]

Did it just go down for anyone else?

yep, same thing happened here

[A_Reed]

yeah, it's down again, and I'm missing my teams match too.

[AndyB]

Yeah, just went down for me.

[T3_1565]

everytime I show up to watch... it crashes... :(:(

[Chris27]

:mad:
I want my video feed back!

[Bongle]

Webcast is back for me.

[XaulZan11]

Its back...to see both 111 and 1625 break....

[AndyB]

What a bloody match. Stang lost their roller, Winnovation got mangled, and it looked like there was another 1 or 2 disabled.

[Cory]

Has anyone else noticed the lap counters seem to work extremely well so far?

I'm pretty shocked. Given the track record with first week regionals and automated counting systems, I thought there was no way it'd work at first.

[Chris27]

What did I miss? What happened? who won the match?





I wonder how much studying is going to happen for my midterms...

[JaneYoung]

What a bloody match. Stang lost their roller, Winnovation got mangled, and it looked like there was another 1 or 2 disabled.

Oh no...

[AndyB]

Blue (1625, 448, 9) won. 1625 broke I believe.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/IL/matchresults.html

[Cory]

What did I miss? What happened? who won the match?

Blue won 46-0. Wildstang's alliance had 24 points before 30 penalty points.

[David Brinza]

I hope the video outage wasn't retribution for this thread I started ;):

Camera work for MWR: Zoom OUT! (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65271)

I really want to see the game, there's too many close-ups to follow the matches and scout teams.

[Synergy1848]

I really like the new scoreboard a lot. It has a lot of useful information in a small space.

Team numbers are kind of blurred, but readable.

Shows the score, number of laps done by each team, and number of hurdles per ball, as well as time remaining.

Much better than the first graphic they had last year!

i think it shows number of balls passed over and under, not hurdles per ball. there is a bar inbetween the 2 balls.

[AndyB]

100!

[Bochek]

100 points by 1114 and partners!!!

[Bongle]

1114 is unstoppable. 100 points, with FIVE hurdles by them. 4 lines and a ball removal in hybrid mode.

[Cory]

i think it shows number of balls passed over and under, not hurdles per ball. there is a bar inbetween the 2 balls.

Good point. I didn't even think about that.

That was what I expected out of 1114 right there. They just put on a hurdling clinic in that match.

1327 is a really good lap runner, too.

[Vikesrock]

5 hurdles for 1114 in a 100 pt. performance for blue (pending any penalties/adjustments)

[Ryan Dognaux]

100!

Wow, 1114 just dominated. That was amazing.

[Ali Ahmed]

That was a very nice match on 1114's part. I counted 5 very efficient hurdles, but I might've missed a couple.

[Lil' Lavery]

Wow....1114 just completed a full lap in hybrid, followed by 5 hurdles. Between them and their outstanding lap-bot partners, they just won 100-6.

[T3_1565]

holy crap.. someone try and slow them down!!!


That was nuts..

[Vikesrock]

Wow....1114 just completed a full lap in hybrid, followed by 5 hurdles. Between them and their outstanding lap-bot partners, they just won 100-6.

1 hurdle came from a partner, 23** I think? Gear It Forward

EDIT: I could have sworn I read 6 hurdles.......

[chaoticprout]

I'm getting a General Error on real, somethin about my web browser not being the default (which it is) has anyone seen this problem today and or fixed it? Thanks.

[Jonathan Norris]

1038 did a great job there to beat 33, they really got their arm controll down that match.

[Bongle]

I'm getting a General Error on real, somethin about my web browser not being the default (which it is) has anyone seen this problem today and or fixed it? Thanks.

Use real alternative: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

You'll be able to watch with windows media player instead of needing realplayer.

[Lil' Lavery]

1 hurdle came from a partner, 23** I think? Gear It Forward

EDIT: I could have sworn I read 6 hurdles.......

I know one of them at least picked it up, not sure if they actually hurdled. The numbers on the scoreboard are kinda hard to read over the webcast.


What a finish before lunch. The blue ball getting removed will just a few seconds left, and 503 placing the red with about 2 seconds remaining.

[Kellen Hill]

Yay for currently holding 1st place!!

From what I hear our robot has had problems all 3 matches. We broke at the end of the first match, forgot to flip a switch to turn on the shooter in the 2nd, and broke in the third. Hopefully we will not break anymore so we can stay undefeated.

I am upset because I was supposed to get there at 2pm but my train is running 2 hours late. :(

[chaoticprout]

Use real alternative: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

You'll be able to watch with windows media player instead of needing realplayer.

Awesome, thanks.

[JB987]

Having real problems with connection here...just get php file for Wildstang website. Anyone know a way aroung this?

[hillale]

Here is the .rm link for the webcast:

rtsp://live.wildstang.org:554/broadcast/midwest.rm

[AndyB]

haha, I think Stang still has it in them. Great round from them. What happened to Winnovation?

[Dave Flowerday]

Having real problems with connection here...just get php file for Wildstang website. Anyone know a way aroung this?
Download and install RealPlayer. If you get the PHP file thing it's because you don't have the RealPlayer associated with it's file type.

[Tottanka]

111 are back with a shout! what a match

[chaoticprout]

Man, people really need to watch out for those lane violations.

[AndyB]

WOW WOW WOW. 1114 is just amazing.

[A_Reed]

I do believe 1114 just matched their High Score...Wow :eek:


Edit:no they beat it! 104 pts.

[Tottanka]

1114 just made 104!

[AndyB]

I do believe 1114 just matched their High Score...Wow :eek:



Edit: Yup they did! 100 pts.

Yeah 100 again.

[Vince lau]

104 high score :O

[chaoticprout]

They beat it. 104. Wow.

[AndyB]

Match results say 100.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/IL/matchresults.html

[Bongle]

Tomorrow morning, match 56, 1114 and 1625 will be on the SAME alliance. I'm sure 104 points will fall then.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Anyone disagree with the bees last point count?

[A_Reed]

the hurdle or the place? the place was good. The last hurdle though, the ball touched them before the ground or any other robot. I do think, by the rules, it shouldn't have counted but I'm not a referee and it's not my call.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

the hurdle or the place? the place was good. The last hurdle though, the ball touched them before the ground or any other robot. I do think, by the rules, it shouldn't have counted but I'm not a referee and it's not my call.

I was talking about the hurdles. They had 4, if the last one didnt count ( i dont know) it would still be ~24 +12, not 18+12

[T3_1565]

1024?!?! 5 lines in hybrid after crashing into a bot :eek: thats awesome

[BBnum3]

Pardon me if this an obvious question, but what is seeming to be the rule violation causing all of these penalties?

[A_Reed]

the one I keep hearing is going backwards over the line. every once and a while they have a interference penalty.

[Cory]

I think there should be a lot more interference penalties called, and i saw some crossing into a previous zone penalties as well that went uncalled.

I've seen probably 300-400 penalty points and I've been watching Midwest all day, and NJ a little bit.

[JamesBrown]

Baxter Bomb Squad and Wildstang just put on a show.

[T3_1565]

they are really strict on the line rule, if your bumper fabric goes over they are calling it, so no wonder there is 300+ minus points. Follow the rules!!!

[Tottanka]

Baxter Bomb Squad and Wildstang just put on a show.
88-74
wildstang won.

[Joe Ross]

88-74
wildstang won.

and now 1114 is the lone undefeated team.

[T3_1565]

and now 1114 is the lone undefeated team.

surprise surprise:p although, 48 showed they could be stopped, and gives other teams an insight on what to do lol

[Zyik]

Heh, thanks Wildstang. Now all my friends in Service Repair think crab drive is "teh awesome." Which it is.

[XaulZan11]

and now 1114 is the lone undefeated team.

Isn't 1755 5-0? http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/IL/rankings.html

[65_Xero_Huskie]

1114 goes down!

*EDIT* High speed raming in hybrid??

[AndyB]

1114 goes down!

Ouch, plus a yellow card...

[Joe Ross]

Isn't 1755 5-0? http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/IL/rankings.html

I should have said undefeated and untied, but that doesn't matter anymore.

[Jonathan Norris]

what were the penalties in 1114's match??

[Lil' Lavery]

1114 goes down!

*EDIT* High speed raming in hybrid??

Yup, all the normal rules still apply in the hybrid period.

[s_forbes]

And for those who missed it, what actually happened?

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Yup, all the normal rules still apply in the hybrid period.

But how do you control that? You cant bump a robot, wait for it to move, and then pass in hybrid..

[AndyB]

Did their (2386) arm just like... explode?

[Dave Flowerday]

But how do you control that? You cant bump a robot, wait for it to move, and then pass in hybrid..
You avoid programming your robot to drive so fast during hybrid that you can get penalized for it.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

You avoid programming your robot to drive so fast during hybrid that you can get penalized for it.

AH, so they make it so you cant lap twice pretty much :p
1114 was down an alliance partner, if they had them they prolly would won with lap points atleast
And 1024/71 put on a good show

[T3_1565]

they have a fast hybrid and smashed another robot

high speed ramming yellow card for them

can't believe they lost though, they weren't having a bad match!

[JamesBrown]

You avoid programming your robot to drive so fast during hybrid that you can get penalized for it.

It has been my experience that the Refs will warn you before they give you a yellow card so you should know what speeds are allowed.

[AndyB]

It has been my experience that the Refs will warn you before they give you a yellow card so you should know what speeds are allowed.

It doesn't say you will be warned in the manual so there is no basis for that argument.

Regardless, they went too fast, rammed a team, and got penalized.

[gurellia53]

quite the traffic jam =]

[AndyB]

Interesting to see what happened when a robot was blocking the entire lane...

[JamesBrown]

It doesn't say you will be warned in the manual so there is no basis for that argument.

Regardless, they went too fast, rammed a team, and got penalized.

The Basis would be my experience, it has happened to 2 different teams I have worked with at 3 different regionals.

[Vince lau]

thats 2 matches in a row 1114 lost

[T3_1565]

yeah that was nuts... but slow them down... and they can't do it alone anymore.. that match proves it. good work by killer bees too!!

[Chronicle_X]

Wow, it's really sad to see such a good robot like 1114 have this kind of luck. :(
I expected them to be one of the front runners, (which they still sort of are) I hope their luck changes :o

[Koko Ed]

Wow, it's really sad to see such a good robot like 1114 have this kind of luck. :(
I expected them to be one of the front runners, (which they still sort of are) I hope their luck changes :o

They're still the Belle of the ball.
If they aren't seeded they'll be the first robot picked.

[gurellia53]

I just saw some defense! preventing a 12 pt end bonus

[T3_1565]

They're still the Belle of the ball.
If they aren't seeded they'll be the first robot picked.


no kidding, but what are the chances of them not being seeded? slim to none there lol

[Cory]

You avoid programming your robot to drive so fast during hybrid that you can get penalized for it.

So you sacrifice your ability to score points to make sure someone else doesn't get in your way?

I think it was pretty weak that they got a yellow card for that. It was pretty clear to me that a team had driven out about 3 feet and then stopped right in 1114's path in a previous match (when their hybrid mode never took that course before), in a clear attempt to get in their way. As far as I can remember, obstruction in hybrid counts just the same.

I wish they were explaining these penalties better. They never gave an explanation when 1114 got the other 10 pointer in that match, or the 20 pts in the match after.

Furthermore, when that one team fell over and blocked the entire lane, does anyone know who was penalized for aggressive play, and why? It clearly states in the rules that you can push a downed robot that is blocking the field out of the way.

[Chronicle_X]

They're still the Belle of the ball.
If they aren't seeded they'll be the first robot picked.

i understand that they will be picked. i was simply saying how disappointing it must be for the team.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

1114 is beatable, in week 1.

Looks like we may have parity...

We are in for a fun season, everyone...

[Chronicle_X]

So you sacrifice your ability to score points to make sure someone else doesn't get in your way?

I think it was pretty weak that they got a yellow card for that. It was pretty clear to me that a team had driven out about 3 feet and then stopped right in 1114's path in a previous match (when their hybrid mode never took that course before), in a clear attempt to get in their way. As far as I can remember, obstruction in hybrid counts just the same.

I wish they were explaining these penalties better. They never gave an explanation when 1114 got the other 10 pointer in that match, or the 20 pts in the match after.

Furthermore, when that one team fell over and blocked the entire lane, does anyone know who was penalized for aggressive play, and why? It clearly states in the rules that you can push a downed robot that is blocking the field out of the way.

2039 fell over and blocked the path. Winnovation (1625) tried to get through and got a yellow flag for agressive driving. This puzzles me, because when 2039's teammate pushed them away to get through, nothing happened.

[Cory]

1114 is beatable, in week 1.

Looks like we may have parity...

We are in for a fun season, everyone...

Beatable when they get penalties maybe.

1114 is the only robot I've seen that has the potential to dominate this game.

[Dave Flowerday]

So you sacrifice your ability to score points to make sure someone else doesn't get in your way?

I think it was pretty weak that they got a yellow card for that.
Well, I'm just saying that if you drive slow enough then there's no chance you'll have to worry about it.

Frankly, I'm in favor of that yellow card. Yesterday during practice one of the very-high-speed hybrid robots (could have been 1114, but may have been one of the others) rammed into a robot really hard and tipped them over. When they fell, their arm hit the field border and sheared off. The high speed ramming rule is there to prevent destruction of other robots and should apply in all phases of the game. I doubt a team who has to go back to the pits with a busted-up machine cares much whether it happened in hybrid or operator-controlled mode.

[BoyWithCape195]

Beatable when they get penalties maybe.

1114 is the only robot I've seen that has the potential to dominate this game.

The strategy by 33 in that match was impressive though...you have to admit. If i remember correctly, the 33 alliance would have won even without the penalties on the 1114 alliance.

[XaulZan11]

The strategy by 33 in that match was impressive though...you have to admit. If i remember correctly, the 33 alliance would have won even without the penalties on the 1114 alliance.

Yes, 33 was impressive. One of the differences was that 33 could place. I don't want to get into the whole arm/shooter debate, but the arm bot won that match...

[T3_1565]

The strategy by 33 in that match was impressive though...you have to admit. If i remember correctly, the 33 alliance would have won even without the penalties on the 1114 alliance.

thats what I saw too! They played that very well, sending 1675 after 1114 and getting a clear path the score themselves!

[Cory]

Well, I'm just saying that if you drive slow enough then there's no chance you'll have to worry about it.

Frankly, I'm in favor of that yellow card. Yesterday during practice one of the very-high-speed hybrid robots (could have been 1114, but may have been one of the others) rammed into a robot really hard and tipped them over. When they fell, their arm hit the field border and sheared off. The high speed ramming rule is there to prevent destruction of other robots and should apply in all phases of the game. I doubt a team who has to go back to the pits with a busted-up machine cares much whether it happened in hybrid or operator-controlled mode.

Good point.

It seems like FIRST wants hybrid to be exciting, but if everyone who has a really good hybrid mode is going to have to drop their speed to make sure they don't ram anyone unintentionally, it's going to get boring real quick. One of the coolest things I saw while watching today was 1024 doing 5 lines in hybrid. Luckily for them they seem to take a path that nobody else does, and haven't had to deal with ramming yet.

[Vikesrock]

Good point.

It seems like FIRST wants hybrid to be exciting, but if everyone who has a really good hybrid mode is going to have to drop their speed to make sure they don't ram anyone unintentionally, it's going to get boring real quick. One of the coolest things I saw while watching today was 1024 doing 5 lines in hybrid. Luckily for them they seem to take a path that nobody else does, and haven't had to deal with ramming yet.

1024 takes that corner really tight and stays close to the lane divider. It looks like this helps them stay away from other teams who don't want t get caught on the divider, but comes with the risk of getting stuck themselves (happened once or twice).

They also appear to have decent collision avoidance on board.

[Lil' Lavery]

1114 is by far the most impressive individual team I have seen in Midwest or NJ. And even they have two losses. This game is focused on alliance play and alliance strategy, and I really don't think anyone at any regional will completely and utterly dominate. Some may or may not go undefeated, but it won't be common and they'll need lots of help.

[Laaba 80]

1114 is by far the most impressive individual team I have seen in Midwest or NJ.


I havent gotten to see 1114 yet.:( Right when I turned the webcast on the scores from the 1114/33 match that everyone is talking about was up. I missed it by 2 minutes!:ahh:
Joey

[Vikesrock]

I havent gotten to see 1114 yet.:( Right when I turned the webcast on the scores from the 1114/33 match that everyone is talking about was up. I missed it by 2 minutes!:ahh:
Joey

video for midwest has been going up on SOAP throughout the day, find the match number then go download it!

the site is http://soap108.com

[Laaba 80]

video for midwest has been going up on SOAP throughout the day, find the match number then go download it!

the site is http://soap108.com

Thanks!!!! I thought they put the video up after the comp. My day is good again.
Joey

[Aren_Hill]

First match for us was a pretty good match, second match was stupid mistake one of leaving a shooter safety on preventing us from shooting, third match a robot beached itself on our pickup tongue, and 4th match or the one we stopped moving the battery came unplugged. and ALL of these things are never ever ever happening again. grrrrrr

[Branden Ghena]

A battery came unplugged. Ouch :(

Once in Aim High, a poof ball hit our robot exactly on its off switch. The robot was off for the whole match. It was terrible.

[Aren_Hill]

The match we were in when 2039 fell over and blocked the track we incurred penalties for a robot driving on top of our scoop.....again, the refs then gave us a yellow card for entanglement twice, and we have made changes so it shouldn't get stuck under people anymore. bad 3 matches

[NSolarz]

just curious to hear what people think of our bot from team 2358? we're 3-3-1 right now.

[T3_1565]

just curious to hear what people think of our bot from team 2358? we're 3-3-1 right now.


your hybrid mode is pretty good! three lines right?? thats the last on I saw, and you launcher is pretty good too good job!

[Chronicle_X]

just curious to hear what people think of our bot from team 2358? we're 3-3-1 right now.

I believe you guys are doing very well, especially for a rookie team! Your hybrid mode performs almost every match, which is very good.
Also, your catapult runs on a pretty neat spring design, which I haven't seen yet on any other robot.(I think its a spring design, you never know with the web cast resolution!) You guys seem to really shine in qualifying match 40. The camera gets some really good views of your robot in action.
I would not be surprised if you guys were up for some pretty good rookie awards this year! :D Hope to see you at nationals!

[chaoticprout]

First match for us was a pretty good match, second match was stupid mistake one of leaving a shooter safety on preventing us from shooting, third match a robot beached itself on our pickup tongue, and 4th match or the one we stopped moving the battery came unplugged. and ALL of these things are never ever ever happening again. grrrrrr

Haha, sorry to hear about that. I know exactly how that feels, one random unrelated problem after another. Good learning experience, that's for sure.