View Full Version : So who's going to submit a safety animation?
Kevin Thorp
20-10-2007, 09:57
We're going to try, even though our two most experienced animators graduated :(
Yes, the deadline is ridiculously tight (Dec. 3), but if we keep it simple we might make it.
Here is the Safety Animation announcement from FIRST: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59148
We're going to try to do one this year.
synth3tk
20-10-2007, 15:30
I have no clue how to do it, but I'll try.
Schnabel
20-10-2007, 15:43
I think we are going to try as a way to start animation training.
JaneYoung
20-10-2007, 15:44
During this time of year last year, we were very low on animators, all of our veteran animators had either graduated or had not yet returned for the season. I approached a new member and asked him and he said he would try. He had to teach himself and spent a great deal of time making not one but two animations for us to choose from. He also spent a lot of time tweaking and finished the final animation just after deadline for submission.
I am *encouraging* some of our team members to think about this. We are in our final week of preparation before Capitol BEST and the focus is on that right now but maybe we'll see.
Even though we missed submitting our entry last year, the student had a wonderful time creating the animations and enjoyed the process - and - he gained valuable experience in a new area. I would encourage every team to submit. :) Animators rock!
Sean Marks
20-10-2007, 21:29
We are going to try to this year, as we have one returning animator and a couple new ones that want to try. The only problem is our computers and laptops are locked away in a school bathroom :ahh: , seeing as we are changing shop locations. :)
Hopefully we will be able to dig them out next week to get it started.
fireball3004
20-10-2007, 21:51
We've got several problems of our own, but team 2090 will submit someting, even if it's total garbage.
synth3tk
20-10-2007, 23:40
lol! Believe me, it can't be worse than the crap I'll muster up. We might have some new students coming in that may know about it.
fireball3004
21-10-2007, 03:15
oh man, that is pretty rough, I don't think I can help but if you need anything... actually most of our problems are resolved for this year, but we wont have any computers to use next year, that'll be intresting.
synth3tk
21-10-2007, 08:26
Do like the cavemen did for FIRST: moving rock pictures!
BuddyB309
21-10-2007, 22:20
Everyone strip off their clothes and run NAKED!
LOL! Oh i enjoy sending you guys teasers keeping you guessing what Winnovation is brewing this year.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1197/tedsj9.jpg
here is a time lapse of the modeling of the hand. video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY97lfXw4W4)
so far its 16264 polys, I know thats really large but thats after two mesh smooths divisions.
TJ2 is in the process of getting our animation squared away, we are in the process of compiling and completing it right now.:cool:
Kevin Thorp
10-11-2007, 10:42
here is a time lapse of the modeling of the hand. video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY97lfXw4W4)
so far its 16264 polys, I know thats really large but thats after two mesh smooths divisions.
Great video Buddy, but it's too darn fast!
smurfgirl
10-11-2007, 12:37
We thought about doing it. Our team has never submitted a safety animation before. We had a subteam get together to do it, but they read the guidelines and decided that they could use their effort to do other things and get more out of it. We're going for several other awards, and before January we aim to build a new cart, some new transmissions, publish a children's book, and do some demonstrations in the community... so we're pretty tight on time.
Team 1710 is working on an animation right now. We hope to have the animation complete by next monday and start rendering next week. We are also blessed to have two excellent animators on our team with the assistance of two Mac G5's.
basicxman
13-11-2007, 16:25
my FTC team should be getting inventor soon from FIRSTbase (yes FTC teams r going to get that) and im going to make one for fun and to learn inventor even though i cant submit:mad:
BuddyB309
13-11-2007, 18:09
our team is not looking too hot right now. I could do all of the safety animation but that would be entirely unethical. Our problem is that our animation team consists of 3 people from last year (and this is their second year) and 8 freshmen who are just about the squirreliest kids you could ever find. I would tell them to run around the building a couple of times to get rid of all that energy, but half of them are cross country runners. That doesn't phase them one bit.
I also think a major part of the problem is that we are only meeting once a week. Things will really pick up when the actual season comes around and we are meeting everyday.
fireball3004
14-11-2007, 05:38
sigh, this is not looking good for team 2090, I think I'm the only one capable of working at home, and I'm sure buddy will atest to how inexperienced I am. Not ot mention how little gets done at our shourt meetings... we are in some serious trouble, especially considering that we need to mail it on december 1st because we are in hawaii and it takes forever for things to get to the mainland, even express.
But I have a quesiton and I know it's off topic, one of my team unistalled 3DS MAX and tried to reinstall it but it insists the license expired... additionally have they opened up the new licenses? cause we are borrowing computers again, and these only have the 30 day trial... this is bad...
LightWaves1636
14-11-2007, 06:39
I haven't been to Dakota Ridge High School much this semester since it's off-season but I believe Team 1799 is.
BuddyB309
14-11-2007, 09:42
But I have a quesiton and I know it's off topic, one of my team unistalled 3DS MAX and tried to reinstall it but it insists the license expired... additionally have they opened up the new licenses? cause we are borrowing computers again, and these only have the 30 day trial... this is bad...
I've had that problem too, You need to delete the license file that is in your C drive. I its a hidden folder. Goggle it for i have forgotten where it is locatted.
fireball3004
15-11-2007, 00:24
Alright, a diffrent member of my team has a computer that runs vista. I figured that disabling the display composition, running it in compatablity for XP, and runing it as an admin would do the trick but it's still no good, I looked it up online and with no better success, I got the same advice. Any suggestions on how to get it to run? It opens to the welcome screen but freezes before it can display anything.
BuddyB309
15-11-2007, 12:04
Alright, a diffrent member of my team has a computer that runs vista. I figured that disabling the display composition, running it in compatablity for XP, and runing it as an admin would do the trick but it's still no good, I looked it up online and with no better success, I got the same advice. Any suggestions on how to get it to run? It opens to the welcome screen but freezes before it can display anything.
I have windows vista Ultimate on my computer and 3ds max 8 runs fine. It actually runs better than it did on windows XP. I have not installed 3ds max 9 on my computer so i don't know if it will run. I'm reluctant to install 3ds max 9 because if i use my 3ds max 8 files and import them into 9 it completely screws up my models. There is no way around it, if tried so many things, but for some reason it is only my copy of 3ds max 8 that has this bug in it.
Is anyone here using Maya or does everyone use 3DS Max?
Well 869 is just finishing our safety animation. We are going to submit it and see if it gets any usage.
Greg Peshek
15-11-2007, 21:56
Alright, a diffrent member of my team has a computer that runs vista. I figured that disabling the display composition, running it in compatablity for XP, and runing it as an admin would do the trick but it's still no good, I looked it up online and with no better success, I got the same advice. Any suggestions on how to get it to run? It opens to the welcome screen but freezes before it can display anything.
Autodesk released a patch to address the Vista bugs a while ago. If you Google "autodesk 3ds max 9 vista service pack", it is the first option that pops up. Hope that helps.
Just be glad you have an animation team.... Us Nebraskan's only have 14 members total, but I'm still going to try to enter.
addictedMax
19-11-2007, 18:08
1094 is, and Pete knows my troubles with the team.
So does anyone know if we have to put credits on the animation? If so, how is there a length requirement? Do they have to be at the begining or the end or both?
BuddyB309
20-11-2007, 00:36
So does anyone know if we have to put credits on the animation? If so, how is there a length requirement? Do they have to be at the begining or the end or both?
heh heh.... credits. There isn't anything in the rules about how long credits can be. Well there isn't anything about credits yet.....
wendymom
20-11-2007, 17:43
Exploding Bacon is very excited to have Skyler and Chandra join our team as animators. They moved from Colorado and they actually know what they are doing!!! I think we will have something to submit.
BuddyB309
21-11-2007, 23:57
Still chugging away at this, It wont get done for the safety animation but I was expecting that. I fear that it wont get done in time for the AVA. I have so much that needs touching up.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/606/tednov2103xy9.jpg
we did one, and already sent it... Hope it gets before the deadline... u.u
kisses
when are these animations due? i'm stuck doing the who thing for my team... but i'm not even the leader...
Kristian Calhoun
27-11-2007, 22:02
when are these animations due? i'm stuck doing the who thing for my team... but i'm not even the leader...
The deadline for the safety animations was just recently extended to December 10, 2007.
More information can be found in this thread - http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59759 :)
Geekzilla201
28-11-2007, 21:16
Yay for deadline extensions! I suppose its time I make my first post somewhere on this vast information exchange. Out team (1643) had two animators, both rather inexperianced, but we are happy with our result. This is the first time either of us (Him and I) actually completed something to submit.
Testament-Doom
29-11-2007, 14:39
Well.. thank god for the deadline extension, our team wouldn't have made it in time to finish the safety animation. Speaking of animations, it's been such a long time since we did submit.. anything. Meh, but our safety animation is really something! I can't wait to see what other teams have to submit. The characters in our animation are soooooo cute!
On a side note: BuddyB's model gave me the finger. D:
Stephen Cross
29-11-2007, 16:14
This is the first year our team is entering the safety animation contest, and I have some questions. What is the format that the animation should be in on the dvd? Do we just put the file on a dvd or does it have to play automatically like the movies you get from Block Buster?
Geekzilla201
29-11-2007, 16:43
I burned it as a true movie DVD. I figure they will be able to play it one way or another.
David Brinza
29-11-2007, 17:30
This will be the first-ever animation submission by Team 980. Two new students just started working on it. They attended the animation sessions of the SCRRF workshops held at CSUN earlier in November and the Autodesk 3ds Max software was just downloaded last night. I think they'll do a great job and I'm excited to see what they produce.
breimerCIO
29-11-2007, 22:04
This will be the first-ever animation submission by Team 980. Two new students just started working on it. They attended the animation sessions of the SCRRF workshops held at CSUN earlier in November and the Autodesk 3ds Max software was just downloaded last night. I think they'll do a great job and I'm excited to see what they produce.
Well kind of late to start now wouldn't you think? We have been working on this animation for the whole time and are not even done yet. Tonight we showed our first preliminary rendering to the team without voices. We recorded voices tonight as well. But I think this is the best product our team has ever produced animation wise. Well good luck to all of you.
breimerCIO
29-11-2007, 22:05
Still chugging away at this, It wont get done for the safety animation but I was expecting that. I fear that it wont get done in time for the AVA. I have so much that needs touching up.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/606/tednov2103xy9.jpg
Buddy, I have to say that looks pretty good. That is some high quality modeling there.
anyone know what kind of file and the file size and all that fun stuff for the safety animations?
i dont want to make something so big that they wont accept it..
cobrawanabe1699
29-11-2007, 22:56
1699 has one in the works!!! This is our first year animating, and I am hopeful for the results!!!
BuddyB309
29-11-2007, 23:45
anyone know what kind of file and the file size and all that fun stuff for the safety animations?
i dont want to make something so big that they wont accept it..
Whoa! slow down partner. Standard broadcasting definition is 740X480 NTSC thats what a standard Tv plays. I would render it out in that size. I personally like the quicktime animation compressor. It does a darn good job at keeping the quality of the animation.
cobrawanabe1699
30-11-2007, 23:38
Thats right everyone!! Your worst nightmare hase come true. 1699 is now taking over animation!!! Next step... THE WORLD!!!! ---aka, we're gunna submit a safety animation... and we're gunna lose.. Go 1699.............................................. ........woot
David Brinza
30-11-2007, 23:57
Thats right everyone!! Your worst nightmare hase come true. 1699 is now taking over animation!!! Next step... THE WORLD!!!! ---aka, we're gunna submit a safety animation... and we're gunna lose.. Go 1699.............................................. ........wootYou can't lose if you submit an animation. Even if you don't win an award, your team wins by just doing it.
You can't lose if you submit an animation. Even if you don't win an award, your team wins by just doing it.
gee.. that was corny...
BuddyB309
03-12-2007, 00:46
gee.. that was corny...
Whoa, hang on there bro. That is not corny at all. Making an animation is quite an achievement for anybody. I congrats all of the animators that submit an animation on time. You must be more aware of your what you post on chiefdelphi. You are not representing yourself but also your team. So next time be more aware of what you're portraying you and your team to be.
Sorry, i didn't quite wrap the [/sarcasm] commands around that one. It's hard to show sarcasm on the internetz.
breimerCIO
04-12-2007, 14:25
Yea that sarcasm thing tends to be quite difficult on the internet.
On a lighter note my team has finished their Safety animation and it is going in the mail today...if my team coach mails it...He has been known to be forgetful. But yea When I get another copy I will post on here so you all can see what our finished product is.
We're getting our animation ready. For next year.
fireball3004
08-12-2007, 02:58
it's terrible, there are no mouth movements, and I don't even know if it will get there on time... but we will be there
BUDDY POST YOUR "dont go there girlfriend" POSE!!!
and MORT has JUST finished their animation and is about to go walk down to the post office to priority mail it now...
BuddyB309
08-12-2007, 12:55
BUDDY POST YOUR "dont go there girlfriend" POSE!!!
and MORT has JUST finished their animation and is about to go walk down to the post office to priority mail it now...
Ok if you insist.
Don't go there girlfriend!
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1142/teddec07qf0.jpg
He's not in the safety animation but he will be in the AVA entry. I still have to finish rigging his hair and get his mouth ready for lip animation, which is gonna take a huge amount of time. Then its off to character animation! Which i plan on spending as much time as possible on. This rig i have is made for dancing, there would be no way you would be able to accomplish this with a biped. (well you could but it would be an ultra pain in the neck.)
Popper99
08-12-2007, 18:55
Ok if you insist.
Don't go there girlfriend!
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1142/teddec07qf0.jpg
He's not in the safety animation but he will be in the AVA entry. I still have to finish rigging his hair and get his mouth ready for lip animation, which is gonna take a huge amount of time. Then its off to character animation! Which i plan on spending as much time as possible on. This rig i have is made for dancing, there would be no way you would be able to accomplish this with a biped. (well you could but it would be an ultra pain in the neck.)
That's great! Even though I encountered some problems with my biped I managed to fix them and finish our team's safety animation:D
I heard that they would be eliminating AVA regional competitions. Is this true? There is no way my animating skill could compete with that! I guess I'll just keep practicing though.
Also, I believe I spy his pants clipping into his shoe;)
Testament-Doom
08-12-2007, 19:37
I spy with my little eye another clipping issue near the top ;)
Graham Donaldson
09-12-2007, 13:43
Team 1676's submission is now the intro to our website, which is www.team1676.com (http://www.team1676.com). I think it's pretty good for 3 people animating it.
Here is MORT Team 11's safety animation. It's our first year doing a safety animation and the entire thing was done by one person... (me).
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsyyPK4A9_0)
comments and crits are much appreciated
TheOtherGuy
09-12-2007, 20:33
Team 1726 made an entry this year; you can download it at:
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
This was created by 2 of our members and mailed off last Friday (hope it gets there in time!)
3 MB? wow... mine was like 105 MB after i compressed it...
Team 1726 made an entry this year; you can download it at:
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
This was created by 2 of our members and mailed off last Friday (hope it gets there in time!)
TheOtherGuy
10-12-2007, 21:13
3 MB? wow... mine was like 105 MB after i compressed it...
That was just the super compressed windows version; we have an .avi that's about 150MB, but I didn't want to wait half an hour to upload the video (we have somewhat slow internet... ;) ) Hope you liked it!
wendymom
10-12-2007, 22:28
Team 1726 made an entry this year; you can download it at:
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
This was created by 2 of our members and mailed off last Friday (hope it gets there in time!)
thats really impressive. Great job
Testament-Doom
10-12-2007, 22:33
The mentors told me that our animation was sent in on time, even though it was a bit procrastinated for a few days, lol. I'm sure I trust their credibility :P. Anyways, here's our animation. http://www.vimeo.com/427590. Hope you like it!
Akash Rastogi
11-12-2007, 00:11
Team 1726 made an entry this year; you can download it at:
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
This was created by 2 of our members and mailed off last Friday (hope it gets there in time!)
Wow, i love this animation just b/c of how smooth it is. Nice job guys!:]
The mentors told me that our animation was sent in on time, even though it was a bit procrastinated for a few days, lol. I'm sure I trust their credibility :P. Anyways, here's our animation. http://www.vimeo.com/427590. Hope you like it!
Nice and simple message. The voice of the teacher/safety person sounded like it'd be something out of south park. very nice work.
talltree357
11-12-2007, 16:39
I was given this by the Royal Assault Animation team to post. Any feedback you have would be welcome. Hope everyone enjoys it!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q3s6V5K_o
BuddyB309
11-12-2007, 17:55
I was given this by the Royal Assault Animation team to post. Any feedback you have would be welcome. Hope everyone enjoys it!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q3s6V5K_o
interesting.........Nice concept. Its the most creative way of expressing safety in i've seen.
Magiciandude
11-12-2007, 22:56
I'm uploading team 1746's safety animation to YouTube right now ;)...
I must say though, I absolutely love the safety hero one...haha...very awesome concept, and well executed too!
Good job everyone! I see some tough competition to beat!
-Chris
Magiciandude
11-12-2007, 23:40
Okay, here's the team 1746 animation entry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG-D2F_ShE
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
BuddyB309
12-12-2007, 00:29
Okay, here's the team 1746 animation entry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG-D2F_ShE
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
LOL, wow! great job! Thats is the first safety animation to make me actually laugh! Your comedic timing is excellent! You did a very good job capturing the character of Dean. This is the best one I've seen so far.
If I had to find a fault, I'd say the character animation and lip synch on Dean needs a little more work. His head moves a little to slowly and smoothly. Normally you want to make the head movements slight and jerky, but not too jerky and not too slight. (as you can see its a difficult concept to understand). One thing that can really help is really listen to the voice recording. I see you were fortunate enough to have talent for a good voice actor. Try to emphasize on the ups and downs of the voice. It really brings the character out.
That walk cycle of the man carrying the latter is spot on! You've improved greatly since your last project. I can't wait to see what you will dish out this year at the AVA competition!
wendymom
12-12-2007, 14:30
Okay, here's the team 1746 animation entry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG-D2F_ShE
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
Very funny. Dean will be so proud. Is that Woodie with the ladder?
Magiciandude
12-12-2007, 21:32
the character animation and lip synch on Dean needs a little more work. His head moves a little to slowly and smoothly. Normally you want to make the head movements slight and jerky, but not too jerky and not too slight.
Haha, thanks for the review!
Yeah, the animation of Dean was complex, especially in the time we had to do it! I learned a lot along the way though, and if you can tell the animation got better towards the end. I truly think in the beginning I made the movements of the head too big. I need to make movements, but nothing that large.
Also, the lip syncing was difficult because the speech was fast, so it was hard to move the lips to something where the speech was somewhat slurred.
Very funny. Dean will be so proud. Is that Woodie with the ladder?
Haha, its not meant to be Woodie, but now that I think of it, he does look like him haha...
But regardless, thanks for the positive comments!
I'm glad you all enjoyed it!
-Chris
Geekzilla201
12-12-2007, 22:27
Wow! I am impressed Magiciandude and talltree357 and TheOtherGuy. You guys did an amazing job. After watching those I threw ours up onto YouTube in case you all want to see something a little weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFotLn_ze7A
Nice Job Teams!
Magiciandude
12-12-2007, 23:17
Wow Geekzilla201! Awesome job! I especially loved the Aperture Science logo on the crate haha!
Awesome job though! You fit a lot of safety concepts into that short 30 seconds ;)
-Chris
BuddyB309
13-12-2007, 00:21
wow, im seeing some really great animations here. I'm kicking myself for not having Ted Bordman in time for the safety animation. He's almost ready for the AVA though. So all of you better watch out ;)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/918/tedandtrex02ot1.jpg
Also, the lip syncing was difficult because the speech was fast, so it was hard to move the lips to something where the speech was somewhat slurred.
Lip synch is my thing, contact me and i can tell you all about it. the main thing is that you want to hit your Ms, Ps, and Bs a frame or two before the actual sound.
Akash Rastogi
13-12-2007, 00:42
Okay, here's the team 1746 animation entry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG-D2F_ShE
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
One word-Amazing:D
Geekzilla201
13-12-2007, 15:11
Thanks Chris. That was one of the problems we faced while making this. We wouldnt talk fast enough to fit it into 30 seconds.
BuddyB309, I agree, there is a lot of good stuff here!
Testament-Doom
13-12-2007, 23:12
You know, I love your animation, really it's superb and comical. How organized is your animation team might I ask? I hope ours gets organized in time for the main animation. It wasn't that well organized back when we did the safety animation this year, and honestly I had to rush the rest of it in the end (took about 6-7 days to put this all together, minus the side modeling). I would really love to know! :D
Team 1726 made an entry this year; you can download it at:
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
This was created by 2 of our members and mailed off last Friday (hope it gets there in time!)
i still haven't been able to open this one with firefox..
Geekzilla201
23-12-2007, 15:14
Testament-Doom, Thanks! Our animation "team" consisted of myself and one other who is not the most organized person in the world. I have no idea how we are gonna do the main animation in our current state. I'm sure we will manage somehow.
Also, for anyone else here, I am curious as to what system you all are doing these animations on? Hardware, specs, jokes?
Mine is:
AMD Athlon64 X2 6000+
4GB DDR2
ATI Radeon 2900XT
1.3TB Combined
ViewSonic G90f CRT
Windows XP Pro x64
TheOtherGuy
23-12-2007, 15:31
i still haven't been able to open this one with firefox..
Yea, that is a problem for me too (although it works fine for everyone else I know using firefox... weird!)
Here's a direct link (http://www.project1726.org/2008web/media/download_gallery/07-08/misc/1726_safetyanimation.wmv), you can just right-click save as and it should work!
Testament-Doom, Thanks! Our animation "team" consisted of myself and one other who is not the most organized person in the world. I have no idea how we are gonna do the main animation in our current state. I'm sure we will manage somehow.
Also, for anyone else here, I am curious as to what system you all are doing these animations on? Hardware, specs, jokes?
Mine is:
AMD Athlon64 X2 6000+
4GB DDR2
ATI Radeon 2900XT
1.3TB Combined
ViewSonic G90f CRT
Windows XP Pro x64
it would seem like a good idea to start a new topic on this stuff. this doesn't deal too much aboooot safety animations
and TheOtherGuy- thanks a bunch man, good looking out.
Magiciandude
05-01-2008, 01:29
Hey everyone!
Good luck to all of the teams that entered the safety animation contest!
We find out who won tomorrow ;)!
So...in complete repetition.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE! May the best one win!
-Chris
Magiciandude
05-01-2008, 14:10
Congratulations team 1726!
Great job this year on the animation!
I can't truthfully say I'm not disappointed about losing, but hey, thats life ;).
So...
Congratulations once again!
-Chris
MadeAtMidnight
05-01-2008, 22:26
I'll second the CONGRATS !
What were these animations judged on? What criteria was it?
Magiciandude
06-01-2008, 16:30
No one knows. They don't release that unfortunately :(
but its my guess that its based on the story-line, considering that its a SAFETY animation competition, not an ANIMATION competition...also it said when they released it that they like nice clear audio. And they tend to pick ones with a narrator...they usually always have anyway...
-Chris
MrForbes
06-01-2008, 20:56
There is now a .mpg version of the 2008 Safety Animation available, if you're having trouble with the .wmv version
http://www.project1726.org/2008web/pages/media/videos/2007-2008.php
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