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Jessica Boucher
08-11-2007, 12:10
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Well, I guess the cat's out of the bag...er... bin now.
Rich Wong
08-11-2007, 12:37
Hmmmm......
Kitty Of Parts.
:)
Pavan Dave
08-11-2007, 12:50
Hmmmm......
Kitty Of Parts.
:)
Is that legal? ... By US law that would be animal cruelty wouldn't it? ... I don't think Dean, Dave, or Woodie would do something like that.... On top of that we'd have PETA on our backs at every competition and possibly even the FBI/Local Police raid some of our "shops".... On top of that, I doubt a cat or "kitty" contains many good "parts" to build a bot out of....
BUT .. I know you didn't mean it like that Mr. Wong. ;)
Richard Wallace
08-11-2007, 12:52
A potential power source, if you can solve the age-old problem of controlling cats. That one is beyond my engineering ability.
JohnBoucher
08-11-2007, 12:54
We're going to play with hairballs? :ahh:
YAY!!! Its always good to see FIRST give teams things they need.... like the pictured hammer:). eventually they might even start giving out other tools :ahh:
OMG its Toonces the driving cat.
Warning: although Toonces can drive . . hes not very good at it.
Billfred
08-11-2007, 13:10
Gerbils have long been featured as illegal energy sources in the parts use flowchart--apparently, the specificity was intentional.
GaryVoshol
08-11-2007, 13:13
Is that legal? ... By US law that would be animal cruelty wouldn't it? ... I don't think Dean, Dave, or Woodie would do something like that.... On top of that we'd have PETA on our backs at every competition and possibly even the FBI/Local Police raid some of our "shops".... On top of that, I doubt a cat or "kitty" contains many good "parts" to build a bot out of....
BUT .. I know you didn't mean it like that Mr. Wong. ;)
PETA? People Eating Tasty Animals? ;)
lukevanoort
08-11-2007, 13:15
OMG! We're all getting a Technokitten in our kits! Awesome, my team could do with a more ballsy (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/15197) drive system.
I've seen this delivish kitten in person and I must say that most people may not want to find one in their KOP come January!! :p
Morgan Gillespie
08-11-2007, 13:20
Gerbils have long been featured as illegal energy sources in the parts use flowchart--apparently, the specificity was intentional.
What about mice?
Anyone recall this from Team 114 Eagle Strike's 2006 AVA Entry?
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9250/114bi6.png
Sure it was just an, "idea," but that shows people were thinking about it...
It is only a matter of time.
JaneYoung
08-11-2007, 13:26
What about mice?
Anyone recall this from Team 114 Eagle Strike's 2006 AVA Entry?
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9250/114bi6.png
Sure it was just an, "idea," but that shows people were thinking about it...
It is only a matter of time.
The purrfect response = eek! (I know, I know - cheesy)
Richard Wallace
08-11-2007, 13:29
What about mice?
Anyone recall this from Team 114 Eagle Strike's 2006 AVA Entry?
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9250/114bi6.png
Sure it was just an, "idea," but that shows people were thinking about it...
It is only a matter of time.I like this concept, but you should lose the cheese, put the mouse where the cheese used to be, put the cat where the mouse used to be, and enlarge the cage-wheel. Cat-power beats mouse-power.
Will they all be standard issue gray or can we get another color? :D
Fred Sayre
08-11-2007, 13:48
Perfect! Our mentors are already very experienced at herding cats :)
Wayne C.
08-11-2007, 14:54
the word catastrophe comes to mind ( no further explanation there)
stick to inflatable clowns...
Elgin Clock
08-11-2007, 14:56
LMAO!!! I has a bin!!!! :p
Finally something on these forums truely worth Awwwing at...
So....
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
HOW CUTE!!!!!!! :D
Will there be tech support in case this sucker starts acting up?
How about a free replacement warranty (valid only 9 times)? LOL
And in typical FIRST teaser fashion, only half of the item in question is shown so FIRSTers can speculate whether or not their is more than appears in the bin itself. Will we get a whole cat? Just a cute furry head? Will we be getting a cat-dog hybrid in the kit? What kid of upgrades will be available? Will Andy-Mark sell an alternative??? Will it be included in the final weight during inspection?? What if it eats a lot before competition and raises up our weight class? - Is that just another one of FIRSTs "real world challenges" with the KOP to deal with this year??? The questions go on and on!!! :eek:
What about that pesky rule 8.5.3?
8.3.5 Electrical System Rules
<R53>
The only legal main source of electrical energy on the ROBOT during the competition is the 12VDC non-spillable lead acid battery provided in the ... Kit Of Parts.
Will that be rewriten to include "Cat" as an alternative power source, or is it just for decoration???
Now I understand why FIRST banned laser pointers a few years back. IN anticipation for this new addition. I know laser pointers make my cats freak out. lol
And no more CMU cam folks, just some good ol' fashioned Cat Vision!
Dark fields will not be a problem when you have this addition on your bot!
And... you know someone had to say it, but I think this is a sure sign there isn't going to be a water game.
You thought Water & Electronics didn't mix?
Try putting the cat in some water, and you'll see the true definition of an operator error!! :p
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too much thinking about this!!!
Must learn secret of teaser!!!
Hmm... must find audio clip of Kitty Cats now to play at the start of a match this year, or a dog barking. lol
Maybe even something by Cat Stevens? :rolleyes:
Mike Betts
08-11-2007, 15:01
From a technical aspect, won't you have corrosion problems if you try welding felines to aluminum? :eek:
Billfred
08-11-2007, 15:04
From a technical aspect, won't you have corrosion problems if you try welding felines to aluminum? :eek:
I think that'd be the least of your worries.
I think that zip ties, in combination with pool noodles, would allow for better wear characteristics.
wingnut1705
08-11-2007, 15:57
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What about that pesky rule 8.5.3?
8.3.5 Electrical System Rules
<R53>
The only legal main source of electrical energy on the ROBOT during the competition is the 12VDC non-spillable lead acid battery provided in the ... Kit Of Parts.
Will that be rewriten to include "Cat" as an alternative power source, or is it just for decoration???
:
That shouldn't be a problem. As long as the cat is keeping it's mechanical energy as mechanical energy it will be legal.
Richard Wallace
08-11-2007, 16:02
That shouldn't be a problem. As long as the cat is keeping it's mechanical energy as mechanical energy it will be legal.Animals store energy chemically, in the form of phosphate bonds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate). So FIRST will need to re-write the rule if cat-power is going to be allowed.
Travis Hoffman
08-11-2007, 16:50
Is a CATS item considered a COTS item?
What if I wish to employ more CATS items on my robot?
Uberbots
08-11-2007, 17:26
The chemical and muscle power of cats is nothing compared to this:
http://uberbots.org/thecat%20copy.jpg
OK... i guess you will have to click it. I edited this post and the image disappeared )=
artdutra04
08-11-2007, 17:27
This picture is begging to be made into a LOLcat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcat). So naturally, I had to make a few using this photo. :p
http://www.arthurdutra.com/images/humor/kop-lol-cat-1.jpg
http://www.arthurdutra.com/images/humor/kop-lol-cat-2.jpg
This picture is begging to be made into a LOLcat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcat). So naturally, I had to make a few using this photo. :p
LOL. I was waiting for someone to do that.
Well, there goes any notion of having a NEMO workshop once those bins are opened.... :ahh:
GVDrummer
08-11-2007, 18:12
hmmm..... could the cats come in colors that match our teams? ....it would be a problem considering our maskot is a dog... i don't know how that would work out.
awww...too cute! but really- cats and robots, awesome. :yikes:
Hmmmm......
Kitty Of Parts.
:)
No, No, It's a Kit of Pussycats
Tetraman
08-11-2007, 21:34
Here is a LOLcat
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/c2f95c3accc599bd1c93553beebc3644_lc.jpg
This will prove to be yet another hardship on the robot inspection crews. Not only will they have to inspect the robots for the usual height, weight, etc. restrictions, but now they'll have to check it for worms and fleas.
On the other hand, the autonomous period should prove to be interesting.
Where will we place the bicycle flag?
I can already imagine the pit announcements, "Team 3157 is in need of 1/4-20 bolts and some Meow Mix"
...Circle, Triangle, Circle, Circle, Mammal...Banana...Square...Triangle...Jello...
Retractable manipulators are the wave of the future.
Overheard conversation between two FIRST moms in Feb 2008: "Timmy brought the robot home again to work on it. Last year he broke a lamp testing it; this year our uphostery and curtains are ruined."
Since cats always land on their feet, the tipping rule has been rendered obsolete.
JBotAlan
08-11-2007, 23:49
Strangely enough, after a late night at the shop I was marveling at my cat's ability to track my hand as I waved it in front of his face...I wondered how long it would be before someone else noticed this.
JBot
MissInformation
09-11-2007, 00:35
Hey, if they come with the kit of parts, how can Eric say no to a third cat? And how do I order a personal KOP?
Cats and robots are a natural mix, just ask my two:
http://photos-869.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v99/87/101/68124869/n68124869_32473149_9670.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v97/87/101/68124869/n68124869_32590923_4031.jpg
Heidi
Non-functional decoration?:D
GaryVoshol
09-11-2007, 07:40
What about that pesky rule 8.5.3?
Will that be rewriten to include "Cat" as an alternative power source, or is it just for decoration???
Rub a bar of amber over its fur and collect the static electricity.
Hmm... must find audio clip of Kitty Cats now to play at the start of a match this year, or a dog barking. lol
Maybe even something by Cat Stevens? :rolleyes:
Maybe this'll finally ban "Who Let the Dogs Out".
Al Skierkiewicz
09-11-2007, 07:55
I see a whole slew of rules changes...
Energy used in First robots may come from the KOP supplied kitty.
KOP parts may not be modified in any way except the supplied kitty may be groomed and must have appropriate flea control.
Kittie spares may be brought to competition but must be corralled in the teams pit area. Spares may be purchased locally but must maintain the same weight and size as the KOP kitty. No kitty claws may contact or damage FIRST carpet or inspection devices.
ASPCA safety advisors will be working the pit area to insure that teams use the KOP kitty as intended and will issue kitty koins to teams who demonstrate purfect kitty practices.
As suggested by a certain Virginia mentor the KOP kitty will now be refered to as KK.
Aidan F. Browne
09-11-2007, 08:38
Geez... whats all this talk about power sources and inspections? Its the game object folks! :rolleyes:
Same general rules apply ... only posession of one... herding... deflated game object is still a game object...etc :eek:
Rosiebotboss
09-11-2007, 09:10
Geez... whats all this talk about power sources and inspections? Its the game object folks! :rolleyes:
Same general rules apply ... only posession of one... herding... deflated game object is still a game object...etc :eek:
My thoughts exactly!! I picture 4 giant scratching posts with green lights arranged in a square, a litter box suspended from chains supported by the 4 posts......the object is to clean the litter box while several robotics mice run around the field distracting the KK that provides the ONLY power source to the robot.:ahh:
Elgin Clock
09-11-2007, 09:20
This just in. FIRST partners with Nestle' so no copyright issues will arise in 2008.
Presenting the latest in Robotic technology:
http://www.candydirect.com/html/cleanimages/candybars/kitkat.jpg
New pictures of Kit-Kat just leaked today.
Autonomous mode is gonna be sooooooo sweet this year with the addition of Kit-Kat! :D
http://www.machinebrain.com/images/omroncat.jpg
A picture of some general accesories was also leaked from a well known but undisclosed supplier today as well. *cough*Andy-Mark*cough* :p
http://www.jeddaniels.com/wp-content/parts_cat.jpg
3dude_2231
09-11-2007, 09:22
he's gonna arrive pretty wet to Israel :D
are you sure it's a cat, and not that short team member that didn't shave during build season?
it could be very misleading..
Cats&Bots rule!
hmmm..... could the cats come in colors that match our teams? ....it would be a problem considering our maskot is a dog... i don't know how that would work out.
just spray paint it.
JaneYoung
09-11-2007, 09:32
Same general rules apply ... only posession of one... herding... deflated game object is still a game object...etc :eek:
Ok, so the game is called:
- Scratch 'n' Snatch
- Claw the Wall
- Herdless Horrors
- Catch the Kitty If You Can
--
ok, ok - Herdless Horrors - is not that good, I admit.
Rich Wong
09-11-2007, 11:59
(Possible)
Q&A submitted to FIRST:
Does the kitty kat become a member of the team or is it still consider a KOP?
I just need to know so I came order a pair of safety glasses and xxxxxxxxs T-shirt.
:yikes:
I forsee a lot of problems if the cat isn't declawed. From volunteers: "Ouch! Ouch!" as they herd the cats. Plus the problem of keeping them clean. (Is there anything madder than a cat who's being bathed?)
Billfred
09-11-2007, 12:08
(Is there anything madder than a cat who's being bathed?)
This is why teams have freshmen.
(Alternatively: This is why I, as a mentor, prefer for kids to do the work when it's possible.)
OK, I have some Questions:
1) Is it 12 volt?
2) can we use it as a power amplifier for the mouse drive?
3) will this tear up carpet if used as direct drive?
4) other than teeth and claws are there any attachment point?
5) will we get DQ'd if it malls the ref?
6) after checking out some units we had on a shelf, where's the off switch?
Have Fun
Geo.
3dude_2231
09-11-2007, 15:07
OK, I have some Questions:
1) Is it 12 volt?
2) can we use it as a power amplifier for the mouse drive?
3) will this tear up carpet if used as direct drive?
4) other than teeth and claws are there any attachment point?
5) will we get DQ'd if it malls the ref?
6) after checking out some units we had on a shelf, where's the off switch?
Have Fun
Geo.
you can't expect us to answer these Qs
read the datasheet or consult it's mommy.:p
Our unit ate the data sheet andwe have not been able to find mommy for weeks, (remeber the off switch question?)
Still Fun!
Geo.
Ps MEOW!!!!!
Team mate of mine made this. She requested I post this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/MellyMitsukai/CATZ.jpg
Water game speculaton will end, and milk game speculation will begin
geeknerd99
11-11-2007, 10:25
Alright! A camera that I can finally get to work more than 30% of the time! Built in rangefinding as well! Complete with audio sensors too, for that second level of robot situational awareness! Did I mention it can function where even human eyes don't cut it, without needing any sort of IR illumination? And on top of that, fellow teammates will handle it better and more carefully, and in the unlikely event that it is dropped, it has built in shock absorbers that function automatically!
Oh wait. I'm allergic to cats.
Andy Baker
12-11-2007, 09:37
Oh, boy... we get a perpetual motion machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox) in the KoP! All we need to do is add buttered toast.
Andy B.
Oh, boy... we get a perpetual motion machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox) in the KoP! All we need to do is add buttered toast.
Andy B.
Not if you've got some poof balls (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46881)!
Rich Wong
12-11-2007, 10:08
Oh, boy... we get a perpetual motion machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox) in the KoP! All we need to do is add buttered toast.
Andy B.
The toaster, bread, and butter is inside the RED bin.
:)
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