View Full Version : Robot Stolen in Seattle -- Team 1778
Bob Steele
28-11-2007, 17:19
I got this distressing email from Kevin Crader - mentor for team 1778
I am sorry to report that our robot Chilly was stolen yesterday out out of the back of our teachers van. He has filed a police report, and we have involved King5 and Komo4 news. This is a tragic event, a huge loss to all of us in Mountlake Terrace Robotics, but we will hopefully come out ahead. It's not useful to anyone else. We are reaching out to whoever took it to just return it to a fire station, no questions asked. And if we can get a plug in that if you are interested in getting involved in FIRST Robotics or supporting our team. This is the project that my son Brandon, myself, 25 other high school kids and mentors worked on last year.
If anyone has any information about this please let me know and I will relay the information to the Mountlake Terrace team...
I also think considering how devastating this is to their team they were still thinking of ways to promote FIRST in general... This says a great deal about their team.
Our team has already offered to loan our robot if they need it for a demo.
Please just be aware... if anything shows up on anyone's Craiglists or Ebay please let us know..
thanks for the thoughts
!
That sucks. I'll keep my eyes peeled and ask some folks to keep a look out as well. I can't imagine what use there'd be in stealing a robot. Sure, the electronics and things are valuable, but only if you know what you're looking at. Aluminum scrap isn't worth enough to bother, either.
I can't even imagine what sort of person takes a robot. People are so stupid.
Chaos204
28-11-2007, 17:33
I am speachless...
Ill keep an eye out... on the east coast... keep us updated
Good luck on finding Chilly. I hope the robot makes it back with the team where it belongs.
I'm way out here on the other coast, but you never know, I'll keep my eyes out for it.
That stinks... I couldn't imagine how I would be if one of our robots was stolen. They are all like little kids to me, every one has its own personal characteristic that makes it special. I hope Team 1778 finds their robot intact and working. I can't imagine what the people were thinking when they stole the robot. Outside of FIRST, our robots are basically useless for everyday tasks. As soon as they find out how expensive and specialized our parts are, then they'll find out that it will be hard to sell, and hopefully just return the robot to its rightful owners. (but you always have to wonder if the robot has a mind of its own and was not stolen, but actually escaped the van and is living a life of its own...)
lukevanoort
28-11-2007, 18:06
I must say, this one puzzles me. I have no idea why anyone would want to steal a robot. It's not like FIRST robots are particularly easy to steal, most that I have seen would require at least three people to carry any distance and would not fit on a handtruck. They also aren't that useful to the average person. I mean, the aluminium has already been machined into the desired shape and would probably be not ideal for use as scrap material, and the control system is also quite specialized. The only thing I can think of a thief wanting is the copper wire, but there really isn't a lot of that in a robot.
=Martin=Taylor=
28-11-2007, 18:14
I am sorry to report that our robot Chilly was stolen yesterday out out of the back of our teachers van. He has filed a police report, and we have involved King5 and Komo4 news. This is a tragic event, a huge loss to all of us in Mountlake Terrace Robotics, but we will hopefully come out ahead. It's not useful to anyone else. We are reaching out to whoever took it to just return it to a fire station, no questions asked. And if we can get a plug in that if you are interested in getting involved in FIRST Robotics or supporting our team. This is the project that my son Brandon, myself, 25 other high school kids and mentors worked on last year.
hmmm... Were they at school when the robot was stolen? This could be the work of some losers pulling a practical joke. If so, make sure to contact the school administration. From there it shouldn't be too hard to get a list of the likely suspects.
Stealing a 120 lb. robot isn't easy. You'd need multiple people and a fairly large vehicle. That might help narrow the list.
Hope you find Chilly soon. People can be soo stupid sometimes.:mad::(
AdamHeard
28-11-2007, 18:15
Wow.... that is really really strange.
Hopefully whomever stole it will quickly realize it is of no value to them (unless there are familiar with FIRST/possibly combat robots [knows the value of victors]... and I can't imagine anyone of us doing it).
Chief Pride
28-11-2007, 18:22
thats crazy... i mean... who would want it? and how could they have gotten away with a 120 lb robot without people noticing? o.O
Bob Steele
28-11-2007, 18:25
The theft actually took place at a car repair shop in Redmond, Washington. So this does not appear to be a prank... unfortunately..
synth3tk
28-11-2007, 18:28
Pranks, scrap metal, pawning it, who knows what the motives could be. Point is, this is a huge loss, and I couldn't imagine someone stealing a robot that we put so much hard work, time, and effort into making. I'm also across the country but will keep an eye out electronically and physical.
dtengineering
28-11-2007, 18:41
I only wish this was an '80's sci-fi flick (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091949/plotsummary) where the robot developed AI and went into hiding until people learned to love it as a real, living being.
Until Chilly phones home we'll keep an eye out. Sorry to hear of the loss.
Jason
Sheetmetalgirl
28-11-2007, 18:41
That is so terrible...I can't believe someone would do that, why would you steal stuff from a robotics team, even batteries...
that really sucks... I bet it was probably just some kids pulling a prank. I cant imagine why anyone else would want it. I hope it gets returned.
Richard McClellan
28-11-2007, 19:18
A robot kidnapping! That's crazy...I wonder if the punishment for that is the same as for kidnapping a human...it should be.
Bomberofdoom
28-11-2007, 19:59
I'm just trying to find some kind of situation that could make any sense on stealing a robot.... If they thought it was a chair, they'd realize it's not one of your regular chairs once they've looked at the robot and try to lift that 120lb robot.......:mad:
:(
Don't know what to say. I wish you and your team will have your Chilly brought back in tact and that we will not hear any of these nonsense kidnappings. :mad:
"Robot missing! Please help us find our dear Chilly. It's a robot with an arm that can grab inner tubes. Finders will be rewarded"
Siriouslly...:rolleyes:
JaneYoung
28-11-2007, 20:32
This certainly does provide a wonderful opportunity for the community to rally around FRC 1778 and learn about FIRST, robotics, and value(s). I agree with you Mr. Steele, it is amazing that the team is thinking as to how they can help promote FIRST and robotics while dealing with these circumstances. That commitment is ingrained in them. It speaks volumes for FRC 1778 and for the FIRST program in general.
It does stink, I'll give you that.
ChuckDickerson
28-11-2007, 20:33
I bet if you plaster posters on all the power poles, etc. around the area someone will have seen something and come forward. A FIRST robot is such an odd thing that if there was one where is isn't supposed to be someone will know it. Plaster posters everywhere with a photo just like a lost dog. I bet it will be so odd to see these "Lost Robot" posters everywhere that it will get people talking and looking. Who knows, this could actually turn out to be a good thing in the long run. You never know what new sponsor might see a poster and call the number to find out what the heck it is all about. Just make sure it is clear that it is real and not a joke. If you put up enough posters it will surely be all over the radio and TV because it is just not something you see everyday. News folks would love a story about a robot stolen from a bunch of students. What is the world coming to these days. Good grief!
Keep us posted if anything turns up and best of luck!
I bet if you plaster posters on all the power poles, etc. around the area someone will have seen something and come forward. A FIRST robot is such an odd thing that if there was one where is isn't supposed to be someone will know it. Plaster posters everywhere with a photo just like a lost dog. I bet it will be so odd to see these "Lost Robot" posters everywhere that it will get people talking and looking. Who knows, this could actually turn out to be a good thing in the long run. You never know what new sponsor might see a poster and call the number to find out what the heck it is all about. Just make sure it is clear that it is real and not a joke. If you put up enough posters it will surely be all over the radio and TV because it is just not something you see everyday. News folks would love a story about a robot stolen from a bunch of students. What is the world coming to these days. Good grief!
Keep us posted if anything turns up and best of luck!
Yep, after all, when life gives you lemons, make a robot to pit and squeeze them, purchase sugar, cups, water, and ice and make lemonade!!
-vivek
Graham Donaldson
28-11-2007, 21:54
Umm...not much to say except that really, REALLY sucks. I can't do much in the way of physical searching out here on the east coast, but I'll do what I can. As disheartening as this is, I'm really happy that some good may come of this (and that students are being semi-positive about it), even if the robot doesn't turn up.
Herodotus
28-11-2007, 22:22
I'm absolutely disgusted by such an act. To think someone would actually steal a robot out of a car. I'm also on the east side of the country, so I'm sorry I can't do too much, but if I see anything suspicious on ebay or anything like that I'll be sure to inform you.
I hope you guys get Chilly back.
Ed Sparks
28-11-2007, 22:54
Aluminum prices are up ..... I think I heard someone say $.80/lb.
Let's see ....... $.80/lb X 120 lbs = $96
Just look at all the folks stealing copper wiring and power distribution componets while they are energized!
btw: Some don't live to sell it.
JamesBrown
28-11-2007, 23:03
Aluminum prices are up ..... I think I heard someone say $.80/lb.
Let's see ....... $.80/lb X 120 lbs = $96
Just look at all the folks stealing copper wiring and power distribution componets while they are energized!
btw: Some don't live to sell it.
It would be less than $96 for the aluminum, there are other components. The market for speed controllers and robot control systems can not be that big, and that is where the real money would be.
Also some of you guys need to meet some bigger people, I used to carry the robots myself, it definitely doesn't require 3 people to move one. (Especially if it has wheels.)
Blue_Mist
28-11-2007, 23:10
I'm curious as to the reason behind the kidnapping.
Aluminum prices are up ..... I think I heard someone say $.80/lb.
Let's see ....... $.80/lb X 120 lbs = $96
Well, it's not completely aluminum. My guess is that about four or five pounds might be zipties, wires and the electronics.
BHS_STopping
28-11-2007, 23:30
Here (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/26824) is a picture of the missing robot.
I really hope that you guys will be able to get it back. I can understand the amount of time, effort, and care each team member puts into building one of these machines. Having such a thing stolen from your team must feel like losing a friend. :(
Best of luck in your team's search efforts.
Wow.... that is really really strange.
Hopefully whomever stole it will quickly realize it is of no value to them (unless there are familiar with FIRST/possibly combat robots [knows the value of victors]... and I can't imagine anyone of us doing it).
I found this statement to be noteworthy. It seems to me that the prevailing thought is the people in FIRST must all be good people, because FIRST is a good program. Unfortunately that simply is not the case. While most participants are upstanding citizens, there will always be people who are either malicious, take advantage of their position of power, abuse others trust in them, or are downright sleazy. While there may be less of these people in FIRST than in the general population, without a doubt they still exist.
Everyone should think about that fact before deciding to blindly trust any FIRST'er they meet (as all too many of us do).
P.S. Sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you Adam, didn't mean it that way :)
I can't imagine why the average person would steal a robot. They generally aren't easy to carry, transport, or sell...nor do they look like they are of particular value. I hope that the culprit is found ASAP.
synth3tk
29-11-2007, 00:56
Well, when will the Search & Rescue party be formed? Does your child own a cellular device? How old is he or she?
(Just trying to add a little humor. I'm sure this is a tough time for you all.)
Rickertsen2
29-11-2007, 01:17
Wow. That really sucks. Did they take the OI and control system to or just the robot? I hope yall find it.
why steal a robot. Well robots are pretty cool. If you have no morals and are looking for something to compulsively steel, what's cooler than a robot? Thats why we build them isn't it. I doubt anybody stealing a robot is looking to make money by parting it out or selling it for scrap.
I wish you the best of luck in getting it back but sadly, stolen goods are hardly ever recovered.
Thank you everyone for your support.
Chilli was taken without the ramps, just the chassis. They did not get the operator console or interface.
It's totally useless, except as parts. There are 7 victors and a couple of
spikes. The motors (CIM) are connected to the chain drive through a banebot
transmission. One radio was mounted. Did I mention that they only have the RC and not the OI??
We are hoping that the local TV station will put something on the news today asking for Chilli's return.
well good luck to you guys. yikes that is worth a lot. I know victors alone run upwards of a hundred dollars so there is atleast a couple thousand dollars worth of stuff on there
-vivek
wingnut1705
29-11-2007, 19:34
I am really sorry to hear about this. Why anyone would steal a FIRST robot I don't know, but then again people do very desperate things. All the time I hear about people trying to take down live power lines to sell the copper, just to keep food on their table. A part of me wonders if this was a similar case.
I really hope that Chilly is returned without any damage.
basicxman
29-11-2007, 21:41
this is terrible, unfortunatly if it was a prank you will probably find it smashed, whenever i go hiking and look over a waterfall, there's smashed computers and i think y would any1 do this?
this is a pointless crim, a ten thousand dollar robot that only has value to the team
thinking about this makes me very :mad: :mad: :eek:
AkashStogi11
29-11-2007, 23:23
Any word yet on the whereabouts of the robot? I hope that whoever took it realizes how much they hurt your team and also that its not worth much to them. However, I also hope that it was nobody from the FIRST community like Cory said it could be. That would just be plain wrong. :mad:
Wishing you the best.
No word yet. We are still hopeful. The local TV station Komo.tv ran a spot in the 6pm news (6:15pm). We are hoping the thieves will drop it off outside a police or fire station. If nothing else FIRST will have had a good plug on local TV, they showed some footage from the Portland regional in March.
http://www.komotv.com/news/local/11955146.html
Thank you again for all your support.
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