Team 1124's new robot [Archive]

Ben_pharteen

06-01-2008, 12:48

we finished the robot in record time, nearly 4 hours after the game was released.

click here to see our bot.... http://uberbots.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=227

cicib99

06-01-2008, 12:59

nice job!

its like a giant vacuum!!:ahh:

VanMan

06-01-2008, 13:29

I didn't think suction would work on these balls since its fabric.

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 14:28

I didn't think suction would work on these balls since its fabric.

We had considered using suction last year for Rack 'n' Roll, but had decided against it, so we figured we'd give it a try this year.

We came up with another idea today, so we're working on our second robot. It's a bit more complicated, so it may take a few days this time, but we'll post a picture when we're done.

Once we have both robots finished, we're going to test them against one another to see which one performs the best.

Janet_R_1517

06-01-2008, 15:17

our team wants to see a video before they believe it.

rcflyer620

06-01-2008, 15:42

our team wants to see a video before they believe it.
Me too. I think it would take a 120lb vacuum pump just to make this work at all. That and the fact the ball is covered in fabric and when inflated to the full 40 inches the fabric is still loose!

EricH

06-01-2008, 16:34

Har, har. Is that a set of robot ramps I see on the robot? The only teams done by now are Beatty and Wildstang.:D:D

Ben_pharteen

06-01-2008, 16:39

The part that looks like a ramp is for herding the ball and picking it up so the vacuum device can pick up the ball. There's a slight problem, because the vacuum is so powerful it lifts our ramp lifter up, so we're going to need some tweaking before we get it right... but we still have six weeks for that.:)

neoshaakti

06-01-2008, 16:45

wow the fact that you guys are done and making another robot is unbelievable
my team hasnt even set on an idea yet (let alone read the manual :P)

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 17:41

wow the fact that you guys are done and making another robot is unbelievable
my team hasnt even set on an idea yet (let alone read the manual :P)

We start reading the manual as soon as it is released; we have a team who starts picking out important rules and letting everyone designing the robot know about them.

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 17:46

Me too. I think it would take a 120lb vacuum pump just to make this work at all. That and the fact the ball is covered in fabric and when inflated to the full 40 inches the fabric is still loose!

We actually had the vacuum holding to ball (for real)... we will get a video of that if you really want to see it (=

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 17:48

Me too. I think it would take a 120lb vacuum pump just to make this work at all. That and the fact the ball is covered in fabric and when inflated to the full 40 inches the fabric is still loose!

Well, we overinflated a little bit, and the fabric is nowhere near loose on our trackball.

chatterboxx333

06-01-2008, 18:28

is the tubing you used for the vacuum within the KoP, or did you buy it?

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 18:30

is the tubing you used for the vacuum within the KoP, or did you buy it?

we had to buy it... our modifying machine couldnt work with the parts in the KOP.

team1203 4life

06-01-2008, 18:32

still cant belive you guys are allrready done :eek:

royal_robotix

06-01-2008, 18:33

you guys really have everyone fooled. lets see that video!

chatterboxx333

06-01-2008, 18:36

it definetly looks like a stable bot, the herding idea to capture the ball looks good.:)

vivek16

06-01-2008, 18:36

I am calling fakesies....

arent you not allowed to use any vacuum thing that is besides the one in the KOP?

-vivek

p.s. lol

chatterboxx333

06-01-2008, 18:39

arent you not allowed to use any vacuum thing that is besides the one in the

i thought i read that too.

vivek16

06-01-2008, 18:42

Please tell me this is legal. If it is, it would greatly simplify our design.... lol

15 rookies with 4 second year members. whaddaya expect?

-vivek

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 18:46

you guys really have everyone fooled. lets see that video!

as soon as our video guy returns

EricH

06-01-2008, 18:48

I am calling fakesies....

arent you not allowed to use any vacuum thing that is besides the one in the KOP?

-vivek

p.s. lolWhat vacuum in the KOP? I couldn't find one, and I did the inventory. It's not on the list either

Besides, I can generate a vacuum with nothing but the compressor, a solenoid, some storage tanks and two cylinders.

And I second the call of fake.

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 18:53

The rules say we can generate a vacuum with any FIRST-compatible motor.

whytheheckme

06-01-2008, 18:54

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 18:57

Drawings for suction design/reservoir? Even just an explanation of the basic premise?

I just can't see the KoP compressor providing enough air movement to create a vacuum with that much volume.

PLEASE, Prove me wrong!

Jacob
You dont need to use the compressor... you can use a super-CIM if you like, and then hook it up to a commercial vacuum.

Scott Carpman

06-01-2008, 19:07

I'd love to see this on a video..and yes, 4 hours is pretty insane and probably some sort of build season record.

Vanquish

06-01-2008, 20:11

look at the robot, it looks like there is a ramp on it... Nice hoax. Its just last years robot with a hose stuck on it

SuspectZero

06-01-2008, 20:22

hmmm they have "uber" in their name. who knows they might acutally be done :p

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 20:24

hmmm they have "uber" in their name. who knows they might acutally be done :p

Good thing this guy is the president, because he has the right idea!

rdlevy1215

06-01-2008, 20:29

This looks very much like a modded 2007 bot ..... there are ramps ....

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 20:30

This looks very much like a modded 2007 bot ..... there are ramps ....

No, those are a herding/lifting device; Tommy explained it back on page 1.

SuspectZero

06-01-2008, 20:34

Good thing this guy is the president, because he has the right idea!

haha hell yes! name means everything! who cares about the robot :p

speaking of team names, does anyone know if it is still possible to officially change the team name?

edit: hahahahha that image looks totally photoshopped. i just took another gander at it. the hose just ends when it hits the bot. looks like you guys just took a picture of a vacuum holding the ball then put your robot in place of the vacuum :P

Uberbots

06-01-2008, 20:39

haha hell yes! name means everything! who cares about the robot :p

speaking of team names, does anyone know if it is still possible to officially change the team name?

no, i think that had to be done a couple weeks back

im sure you guys know, but you are all aware that this is a photoshopped bot, right?

SuspectZero

06-01-2008, 20:41

no, i think that had to be done a couple weeks back

im sure you guys know, but you are all aware that this is a photoshopped bot, right?

hahahah i beat ya to it :D

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 20:42

haha hell yes! name means everything! who cares about the robot :p

speaking of team names, does anyone know if it is still possible to officially change the team name?

edit: hahahahha that image looks totally photoshopped. i just took another gander at it. the hose just ends when it hits the bot. looks like you guys just took a picture of a vacuum holding the ball then put your robot in place of the vacuum :P

It is possible to change your team name in general (we were once the Cheetahs, under a different main sponsor), but the program information was due back in December, so you can't officially change the name for the 2008 season.

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 20:43

hahahah i beat ya to it :D

We'll post some teasers of bot 2.0 (the real one) for you, though.

ErikM

06-01-2008, 20:57

Hi everyone

Yep, the picture was photoshopped as Billy said earlier.

Here are the two pictures that I combined to make it work:
http://uberbots.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=227&p=5964#p5964

Either most of you guys knew that it was photoshopped already, or I'm just that good at photoshop!

I hope everyone got a good chuckle out of that!

Erik

EricH

06-01-2008, 20:58

no, i think that had to be done a couple weeks back

im sure you guys know, but you are all aware that this is a photoshopped bot, right?
I was aware that it was fake! You should have used one that didn't have robot ramps. (Like I said, only Beatty and Wildstang are done already.:D:rolleyes:)

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 21:03

I was aware that it was fake! You should have used one that didn't have robot ramps. (Like I said, only Beatty and Wildstang are done already.:D:rolleyes:)

We know you guys caught on, we were just trying to have some fun with everyone. (-:

But you're right, I bet they both ARE done already.

zsclapper

06-01-2008, 21:41

But you're right, I bet they both ARE done already.

Ha yeah, you probably right:)

smurfgirl

06-01-2008, 22:17

Ha yeah, you probably right:)

And they probably didn't use giant vacuums, either.

garyk

06-01-2008, 23:40

Great prototype! Now, one that will fit in the box? :)

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 00:06

Great prototype! Now, one that will fit in the box? :)

Hey, that DOES fit in the box... it's just not legal since most of the robot was from 2007, and the vacuum part isn't really attached to it.

Speaking of size, we always cut it close, so we've decided to make our chassis smaller this year.

reflion

07-01-2008, 01:42

How the heck are Beatty and Wildstang done already? o.O

Uberbots

07-01-2008, 01:46

How the heck are Beatty and Wildstang done already? o.O

Its just an absolute truth.

Otaku

07-01-2008, 02:12

How the heck are Beatty and Wildstang done already? o.O

They're the craziest teams out there, basically. Anybody got actual numbers for a record time of a bot (aside from one day that is, I mean a good bot).

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On the subject of one-day-'bots, 675's built one. Except it was the day before ship, made from whatever we could scrounge up and built in a few hours. The downside? Well, it didn't work. I think it disintegrated, actually. I'll have to check with weaver though, I wasn't on the team at the time.

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 06:39

On the subject of one-day-'bots, 675's built one. Except it was the day before ship, made from whatever we could scrounge up and built in a few hours. The downside? Well, it didn't work. I think it disintegrated, actually. I'll have to check with weaver though, I wasn't on the team at the time.

I remember at the Championship Event last year, there was one team who arrived to discover that their bot had accidentally been shipped home instead of to Atlanta. They joined forces with some teams from neighboring pits and built a brand-new robot which they used to compete- and it actually worked pretty well, too. I still can't believe they managed to do that- talk about some serious teamwork!

Maggie27

07-01-2008, 09:28

Must be heavy duty.

Ben_pharteen

07-01-2008, 11:41

:) If you were talking about our robot, it was very heavy duty. it is extremely reliable and can withstand almost anything. even though it is photoshopped it can withstain the pressure!

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 15:12

:) If you were talking about our robot, it was very heavy duty. it is extremely reliable and can withstand almost anything. even though it is photoshopped it can withstain the pressure!

Yeah, imagine trying to play the game with a photo for a robot...

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 15:13

Must be heavy duty.

The 2007 robot (the one that was altered in the picture) definitely would NOT be able to stand up to flying trackballs.

The robot we're actually working on for 2008 should be pretty robust.

ScottieDo555

07-01-2008, 15:26

Nice photoshopping. You fooled me!

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 16:17

Nice photoshopping. You fooled me!

Thanks... on behalf of Erik. It's funny, because I watched him do it, and to me the part of the picture that looked photoshopped was the trackball attachment to the vacuum... and I KNEW that was real because I was there when they took the picture. It's just so round and shiny, it looks unreal.

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 22:11

So since a vacuum doesn't seem to be the way to go... what are other teams thinking for lifting the trackball? A "gripper", a "ramp", a "forklift" type device?

Eric Scheuing

07-01-2008, 22:17

That's nothing. 177 can already cap vision AND shoot all 10 balls accurately into the goal.

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 22:30

That's nothing. 177 can already cap vision AND shoot all 10 balls accurately into the goal.

Shoot 10 balls accurately into the goal? That sounds more like your 2006 bot when we played defense for you at the NE regional...

Eric Scheuing

07-01-2008, 22:33

Shoot 10 balls accurately into the goal? That sounds more like your 2006 bot when we played defense for you at the NE regional...
Except our shooter was broken constantly through that year :P. If I recall correctly, you were a good autonomous scorer, along with 176.

That was a good year.

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 23:00

Except our shooter was broken constantly through that year :P. If I recall correctly, you were a good autonomous scorer, along with 176.

That was a good year.

If only we could go back to those days... just rebuild that robot.

Actually, at our meeting tonight our head mentor took out last year's robot and used the arm and the wrist as a giant claw to pick up the trackball, and started brainstorming ideas of how to use the concept of last year's robot to accomplish this year's task. Unfortunately, we need completely new ideas.

Uberbots

07-01-2008, 23:15

That's nothing. 177 can already cap vision AND shoot all 10 balls accurately into the goal.

can you also cap 4 ringers in a single autonomous mode? in addition to chasing a rabbit and buttering my toast?

hahaha... ok back to java

smurfgirl

07-01-2008, 23:24

can you also cap 4 ringers in a single autonomous mode? in addition to chasing a rabbit and buttering my toast?

hahaha... ok back to java

Billy, you weren't allowed to use ringer in autonomous, only keepers. And this year, we have hybrid mode. (-:

Uberbots

07-01-2008, 23:30

Billy, you weren't allowed to use ringer in autonomous, only keepers. And this year, we have hybrid mode. (-:

WE were definitely allowed to use ringers... after we had scored our keeper

artdutra04

08-01-2008, 03:13

How the heck are Beatty and Wildstang done already? o.OThey've mastered the art of collectively concentrating so hard for the first week that their robots just pop into existence.

I've tried the same, but all I can manage so far is Vex robots.

smurfgirl

08-01-2008, 06:38

WE were definitely allowed to use ringers... after we had scored our keeper

Ok, I see what you mean... I had just assumed that was impossible. You did have to start with a keeper, though.

smurfgirl

08-01-2008, 15:07

They've mastered the art of collectively concentrating so hard for the first week that their robots just pop into existence.

I've tried the same, but all I can manage so far is Vex robots.

I wish I could do that... I can't even do it with Vex robots. ;)