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BobC
06-01-2008, 18:01
Has anybody combined the manual into one file yet?

Matthew2c4u
06-01-2008, 18:06
my friend alan posted the link to the manual unpassworded and combined but some guys scared him with copyright law stuffs

vivek16
06-01-2008, 18:09
my friend alan posted the link to the manual unpassworded and combined but some guys scared him with copyright law stuffs

yeah since the manual is copyrighted by FIRST, only FIRST (unless permission is obtained from FIRST) can have the manual on their website.

-vivek

BobC
06-01-2008, 18:12
yeah since the manual is copyrighted by FIRST, only FIRST (unless permission is obtained from FIRST) can have the manual on their website.

-vivek

It has been done in the past.

Matthew2c4u
06-01-2008, 18:15
yeah since the manual is copyrighted by FIRST, only FIRST (unless permission is obtained from FIRST) can have the manual on their website.

-vivek

Yes, Thats right. But i think we already use many of firsts work in non copy right positions. Read this post..

Oh come on...

Perhaps I'm a bit biased on copyright issues, but this is ridiculous.

The manuals and kickoff videos are inaccessible for a lot of people, mirrors enable people to learn the rules. This is going too far especially when you consider how far that logic takes you...



We regularly show off FIRST game animations to new members and at demonstrations - (Public performances of a copyrighted work)

We print off manuals and give them to new members - (Unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material without permission of publisher)

We make 3d digital replicas of the field, and post them for others to use (Creation and dissemination of a derivatively work not covered by fair-use).


Seriously.... Where do you draw the line?

The actual link is here http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60683

jvaitkus
06-01-2008, 18:19
I was on the FIRST website downloading the manual, but when I click on the "2008 Pneumatics Manual" link under Section 8 (The Robot), it says that "the webpage cannot be found." :confused: Has anyone found a different link to get to it? or knows anything about why it wont load?

mneary
06-01-2008, 18:49
The sensor and pneumatics URLs are malformed. Just manually strip off everything before the second http:// and they should work.

I can understand why FIRST wouldn't like mirroring or modifications (compilations) of the manual. Any inaccurate or out of date manual would be a major headache and potentially unfair to some teams.

Vanquish
06-01-2008, 19:51
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/Manual/2008_FRC_Manual.zip

BobC
07-01-2008, 16:14
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/Manual/2008_FRC_Manual.zip

Thats nice but not exactly what I wanted what i want to do is be able to go from chapter one to chapter two without opening a new window. I think you need full blown version of adobe to do that and I do not have that.

artdutra04
07-01-2008, 17:02
Thats nice but not exactly what I wanted what i want to do is be able to go from chapter one to chapter two without opening a new window. I think you need full blown version of adobe to do that and I do not have that.There's no need to go out and buy the [horribly] overpriced Adobe Acrobat Pro software, when you can do it for free.

If you know anyone who has a Mac, when you open the PDF files in Preview, you can drag and drop more PDF files onto the current document and it'll automatically append them as additional pages. Then you just save the current PDF, and it's done. Now you have one PDF with everything.

Evert
07-01-2008, 17:11
If you have Microsoft Office 2007 with the free pdf creator add in, you could copy each file into a Word document and then export it as a pdf.

Scott Morgan
07-01-2008, 17:43
At work we use PDF Split and Merge to combine PDFs. It's freely available software that you can download here (http://www.pdfsam.org/)

synth3tk
07-01-2008, 22:13
We're lightyears ahead of all ya'll. Printed the entire manual as an easy reference, not my idea. Weighs a ton, and revisions could prove fatal to the printer and the schools ink costs.