Help on a iudgement call

[Xenozero]

Ok Im sitting here thinking about scoring situations and I came across this one,

A Robot in its own home stretch lifts its own trackball to the height of the overpass and pushes it onto the overpass. The robot then pushes the trackball over to the other side of the overpass. Is this still considered hurdling the trackball. As far as I know the rules to hurdling are that

1) the robot must be traveling in its own home stretch
2) be moving in the direction of the homestretch, or be elevating the trackball higher than the height of the overpass
3) be in possession of of a trackball

as far as possession goes, it states that the trackball must be controlling the movement and position of the trackball while it is supported or captured by the alliance

and according to the definitions involved the game manual the robot involved is not supporting the ball, but it is captured by the robot by the definition of captured being:

as per the GAME manual
A
TRACKBALL shall be considered “captured” by a ROBOT if, as the ROBOT moves or changes
orientation (e.g. backs up or spins in place), the TRACKBALL remains in approximately the same
position relative to the ROBOT.

Am I right to assume this can be considered hurdling or am I wrong?

[daftpunk79]

put that in a bit simpler terms and i can prob tell you....

[Alex Golec]

If I understand you correctly, you are asking:

Once the robot has let go of the trackball, is it no longer considered to be hurdling?

Per the definitions in section 7.2, the answer is yes. Once you let go, you are no longer hurdling. Now that this basic question has been answered, I can only assume that the implications correspond to <G42>, protection while hurdling.

Given these rules and definitions, that means as soon as you let go of the trackball, you are no subject to regular defense.

However, you should not expect to be protected by these rules. Defense happens - Penalties are a judgment call, not a guarantee.

_Alex

[Joe G.]

Actually, since it toutches the hurdling robot twice, it might be called as illegal.

HURDLE: When a TRACKBALL CROSSES a FINISH LINE while passing above the OVERPASS
and then contacts either the floor or another ROBOT before re-contacting the originating ROBOT.

However, this does not say anything about a robot having to be in the process of Hurdling for a Hurdle to count.

[daftpunk79]

ok, had to read it again...slowly...and yes you can. you can be standing in one position and as long as the top of the ball is over the top of the lane divider you can hurdle it over.(#2)

i dont know anything about letting go of the ball or touching the rack or anything though.

[GaryVoshol]

Actually, since it toutches the hurdling robot twice, it might be called as illegal.



However, this does not say anything about a robot having to be in the process of Hurdling for a Hurdle to count.

But it hasn't fully CROSSED yet. Q&A where are you?

[ALIBI]

The rules seem to indicate that you must let go (not be in contact with) the trackball sometime before, during or after it crosses the finish line once you do whatever it is you do to get it over and to count it must touch either the floor or another robot before you touch it again.

If the trackball passes over the finish line and whichever robot caused it to go over touches it again after releasing it and before it touches the floor or another robot, it simply is not a Hurdle.