FIRST Injuries

[joesmomh00haha]

Gonnosyphilitis (gonorrhea,syphilis,senioritis)

[Kat Kononov]

.... i agree with senioritis...but it's not associated with FIRST. i burnt my finger with a solder and it hurt a lot.

[team1841]

Heres one for your thread.

Note to self, don't use finger as idler sprocket.

[Guido]

Chisel + Hand = nO fUN

[Koko Ed]

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21107

[AdamHeard]

Two broken fingers on left hand; thanks to a mentor as well (No hard feelings though, it was an accident).

About two minutes after this picture (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/26517) I had my hands on the upper part of the lower arm holding it, and the mentor was holding the end up high and let go without warning; It swung down very fast and pinched the fingers on my left hand which broke one finger and hairline fractured another. It healed pretty quickly though and I'm broken fingers plenty of times so I'm not really upset with that mentor (plus he's a great guy).

And as for your injury; care to explain how you got gohneria, syphilis and senioritis on your hand?

[wendymom]

This should be renamed the ode to Tytus thread

[Urban Hawk]

last year i burn my hands with the solder 5 times in one day

[roborat]

I don't have a picture, but i was cutting a piece of 80/20 and it kicked back and split my nail and the end of my finger. Now i know why to use a back board for cutting small things.

[ScottieDo555]

this wasnt for me but a kid droped a 5 feet long two inch wide steel pole on a mentors head from about 4 feet. he yelled ow! the loudest id ever heard any one. and yes he said Ow!

[Ross340]

I have countless burns from welding. Sometimes, if you're lucky, it just sears off all the nerve endings and you can't really feel the burn. AND you get what i like to call "insta-callus" it melts the skin and makes a real nice callus. AND you can sometimes (if it's a real good burn (meaning almost any idiot should know not to touch there)) you can see the skin on the piece of metal. Then you can say you left a piece of yourself on the robot! Ahhhhh the joys o' welding. But I love it.

[Petey]

In 2002--which, for all you whippersnappers, was when there was a giant stack of storage containers on the top of a large HDPE ramp--I took a flying ninja leap at the stack and brought all 25 crashing down upon me. Got a couple nasty bruises.

I've done more damage to tools than gotten it from them, however. I've broken hammers and more than a few gamepieces. FIRST fears me :)

[EricH]

In 2002--which, for all you whippersnappers, was when there was a giant stack of storage containers on the top of a large HDPE ramp--I took a flying ninja leap at the stack and brought all 25 crashing down upon me. Got a couple nasty bruises.
I'd have thought you'd have gotten some nasty bruises from the soccer balls in 2002.:) The bins were 2003. (And the bins took a lot of damage--I think of team 330s 25 or so, half a dozen survived.)

[IbleedPink233]

It's good that this forum was created because everyone knows that we can't talk about our injuries at competitions - that's when the safety judges are around!
There haven't been major injuries on my team while I've been on it (that I know of). I received a helping of minor cuts from our 2k6 bot whenever I had to load it in a hurry (which was basically before any elimination match) due to some gears and chains that were not placed in an idiot-proof location. I, as the unaware idiot, reaped the consequences. I started wearing gloves to protect myself, but then people started making fun of me. . .

[tanmaker]

The only injury 1986 has suffered was to a pair of jeans. A drill decided to attack my friends jeans, so now there is a 6" rip in that pair. Funny thing is, he still wears them on occasion.

[tacopaco789]

What about mental injury........like Insomnia during the last week of build. lol

Kyle
Team 624 CRyptonie Robotics

[Andy L]

Last year our programmer decided to have fun with a drill, an allen wrench, and my side. He thought it would just wrap my shirt up but went to close now I have a cool half circle mark on my side,

[Tetraman]

whatever happened to safety first?

[Lions for First]

a freshman on my team was bulding a toughbox and it (with 2 CIMs connected) fell on his "lap" and well there were some words id rather not say here

[Kittybot]

Don't know if this counts. We've been playing with our trackball ( see youtube video, "Indestructable Trackball," to know what I'm talking about.). Numerous people have been hit on the head with it, fallen off while balancing on it, including me, and have been body slammed by it, again including me. Some of us have bruises on our fingers by not straightening them when the ball hits them.:yikes:

[Andrew Bates]

Nothing severe but it seems that there are about 20 more scars on my hands and knuckles than before FIRST...

[lukevanoort]

whatever happened to safety first?
It's like gun safety. You wear your safety glasses, put in earplugs, etc., but at the end of the day, you might pinch yourself cycling the bolt. Worry about the big problems, and try to minimize the occurrence of the small ones. Honestly, if there is a FIRST team whose members never get cuts, scrapes, burns, and other minor injuries, they are probably not building a robot. As for myself, I have done the usual: soldering burns, pinches, dropped stuff on my foot, abraded some skin off, splinters, and had an occasional minor cut. Never anything major though... I save those for when I am in the middle of the woods :rolleyes:.

[popo308]

Last year i burnt almost every finger with the solder gun
The "team vehicle" attacked my finger and cut it kinda nastily
fell off motor scooter (supposed to be working) :D
fell off trackball and twisted ankle
got hit in the head with trackball



Im sure there are more.... :D

[whytheheckme]

Last year, one of our mentors was whacked in the head by our ramp, which wasn't properly fastened while we were moving it at the BAE regional. It wound up cutting part of his head open, and the EMTs had to stitch it back together (either 7 or 9 stitches as I recall.)

So the lesson is, the EMTs at hand at competitions are VERY useful, and it's a REALLY REALLY good thing they are there.

As for myself, the worst is probably some gashes, soldering burns, the usual splinters and pinches, and of course, the typical programmer's memory leaks and overflows. :p

Jacob

[DarkFlame145]

Last year i was welding up the arm for our bot, the arm was much longer then my welding table and i didnt clamp it. I was just holding ti with my arm while welding it. When I lifted my arm it swug up and the area under where I welded seared my arm and left a scar of the state of Idaho. That day i learned to where my welding jacket while welding =P.

[BQuennell]

A few times solder globs landing on the skin left little marks. Our team has a good reccord for not getting hurt, worst thing thats ever happened is one guy broke his foot running into the wall when playing Buns up during dinner.

[CzarValvador]

Um, here is a cool story. This is KINDA a first Injury, but not exactly.

On the kickoff day, January 5th, after we watched the video we were supposed to meet at school for the rest of the day. I ditched my team to go Ice skating for my friends birthday... Oh, it was great, I got to hang out with my friends from my sig.

Right after they clean the Ice off, I went on the Ice to show off in front of my friends again (I used to play Hockey) as they stood in a circle. I ****ed up and fell. Knocked over my friend as he fell down, his feet went up and came down.

I felt a Numb feeling on my finger as I started getting up and laughing about the situation. As I looked at my hand, I noticed a fifth of my pinky was missing. Laughter stopped, as I heard the more vulgar version of "Oh crap" echo through the rink. I put my hand on my finger and ran the hell off the ice on my ice skates. Although it didn't hurt very much, a bunch of my friends were freaked out even though I gave them a sign that I was fine.

Anyway, this is what my hand looks like now.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8996/bettertg3.jpg


I lost my finger because I ditched robotics.

[DarkFlame145]

Um, here is a cool story. This is KINDA a first Injury, but not exactly.

On the kickoff day, January 5th, after we watched the video we were supposed to meet at school for the rest of the day. I ditched my team to go Ice skating for my friends birthday... Oh, it was great, I got to hang out with my friends from my sig.

Right after they clean the Ice off, I went on the Ice to show off in front of my friends again (I used to play Hockey) as they stood in a circle. I ****ed up and fell. Knocked over my friend as he fell down, his feet went up and came down.

I felt a Numb feeling on my finger as I started getting up and laughing about the situation. As I looked at my hand, I noticed a fifth of my pinky was missing. Laughter stopped, as I heard the more vulgar version of "Oh crap" echo through the rink. I put my hand on my finger and ran the hell off the ice on my ice skates. Although it didn't hurt very much, a bunch of my friends were freaked out even though I gave them a sign that I was fine.

Anyway, this is what my hand looks like now.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8996/bettertg3.jpg


I lost my finger because I ditched robotics.

OUCH, that has got to suck. I'm really sorry that this happened to ya.

[laultima]

Last year our programmer decided to have fun with a drill, an allen wrench, and my side. He thought it would just wrap my shirt up but went to close now I have a cool half circle mark on my side,

I miss Boyd....

now all we have to do is hold up a drill in one hand and a hex wrench in the other and andy gets crazy mad :D

[Otaku]

I accidentally left the key in the lathe and turned it on, it spun then flew into my side and gave me a little bruise, hurts a bit but I learned my lesson, yes I did.

I'm also known for dropping stuff on my feet/hands. During the off season, I also milled my finger (not a lot, though).

Last year I cut the inside of my hand on a keyway slot.

I've got a few poke marks from punches on my fingers.

I have a LOT of cut marks on my fingers from sharp edges (I'm the local filing guy, so I feel the edges, and I cut my fingers... even got an aluminium splinter)

I hit my head on the overpass yesterday after our bot hit it and we were fixing it.

Probably some other stuff, too. =p Like alu dust in my lungs.

[Justin Montois]

In 2006 I was using vise grips to and raise the deck on a drill press cause the handle was broke, but the track was bent so I pushed really hard and the vise grips slipped off and I bashed the nail on my ring finger on my right hand between the vise grips and the deck of the press. After about two months the nail finally fell off and the new one is still messed up two years later.

[Otaku]

Last year our programmer decided to have fun with a drill, an allen wrench, and my side. He thought it would just wrap my shirt up but went to close now I have a cool half circle mark on my side,

I think I should not touch drills unless there's real work to be done.

I've put in a round file, a flat file, and a pair of safety glasses. The files were cool (round file + drill = really cool and quick, and the flat file was cool too albiet more dangerous)

the safety glasses stretched out and I thought they were going to break and hit somebody so I stopped that. =p


Although the most dangerous thing I've put in a drill is... a drill bit. Sure, I have all my fingers and the proper amount of holes, but I've had some close shaves.

[pakratt1991]

3 hours into build season I was opening a KoP box and was so excited that I was not paying enough attention to the knife in my hand. It slipped and I cut deep into my right hand pointer finger, when my hand flew out of the way I also cut my First knuckle on my thumb.



Talk about first injuries of build season....
I set records.

[basicxman]

.... i agree with senioritis...but it's not associated with FIRST. i burnt my finger with a solder and it hurt a lot.

ooh, ive done that, it hurts so much!!!! remember, use a soldering iron stand!

to contribute to the thread, one time a mentor drilled her finger, i don't think all the way through but she went to the hospital

[basicxman]

omg, i just remembered, this was not on build season, it was me building a personal robot, i was using an LED with really strong leads, i was forcing it into a jumper wire and it slipped and i stabbed myself in the leg with the lead of an LED

it hurt like words im not allowed to say and i was bleeding for 1/2hour or so

[CzarValvador]

OUCH, that has got to suck. I'm really sorry that this happened to ya.

Don't worry about it. It didn't hurt much, and that part of my hand is practically useless. Coulda been much worse. Like I could've easily injured the people in my sig. Woulda killed myself if that had happened.

[Zyik]

We had a mentor with 9 fingers for a long time. Never wear rings while machining.

[Andy A.]

I've never had, or seen, a serious injury while in FIRST. The worst I've had was a minor cut requiring a butterfly closure and some super glue. Normally I would have just used a band aid, but I wanted to get back to work faster :rolleyes: .

Other then that just the usual assortment of scrapes, dings and solder burns. Overall my teams have always stressed and practiced good shop safety, and it's paid off. Team members learn from the start how to be safe, and everyone checks everyone else's work out. Normally a crowded shop isn't safe, but when everyone stays focused the extra eyes really help catch the little errors like chuck keys left in the chuck and so on.

My work experience has also been pretty safe. I did have a grinding wheel break up on me once, and a piece managed to take a good chunk out of a finger. Although it healed quickly it left a sizable scar and dent, and was very painful. Luckily I was wearing eye protection and my welding leathers, so the finger was the only casualty.

I've also worked in the medical field. In doing so you use what are called 'universal precautions'. Things like latex gloves, face masks, safety glasses/shields and lab coats. To my knowledge I never had to handle anything terribly infectious but the risk was still there. So anytime I worked on a piece of lab equipment that had been exposed to possibly infectious or hazardous materials I had to put on all that stuff until I had disinfected/cleaned it. It was a hassle at first, but after a while I felt naked with out it.

I guess the guiding principal to shop safety is to stay alert and focused. Accidents happen most often when people become complacent and rush. If you feel rushed to get something done, stop. Take a moment to breath, check your work, your work area, your tools and your self. Remove distractions (extra tools, prints, radio, even people). Think the next few actions through and then do them. Some accidents are unavoidable, like my grinding wheel spontaneously coming apart, but if you make it a habit to always protect your self you'll minimize the impact.

If I sound preachy, I guess I am. Sorry. I try to keep that to a minimum, but I think safety is one of those things that just can't be brought up enough. I know there is a little bit of bravado in these threads over who has gotten the most scars or burns, and I guess thats okay if it gets people talking about safety. But the real benefit of these threads is to share ways to avoid injuries, and lessons learned from those we haven't.

-Andy A.

[Pavan Dave]

...I think safety is one of those things that just can't be brought up enough. I know there is a little bit of bravado in these threads over who has gotten the most scars or burns, and I guess thats okay if it gets people talking about safety. But the real benefit of these threads is to share ways to avoid injuries, and lessons learned from those we haven't.

-Andy A.
Very well said. Emphasis mine. I have had my fair share of nicks, bruises and burns, but when it comes down to it, I try not to make the same mistake twice, but it happens and I try my best to keep learning from my mistakes.. I think it is horrible to be proud of being injured, not because of the pain you might go through during some accident, but what if someone had to file a report about your injury and it was due to a disregard towards safety and your team lost its privileges to work at a sponsor's shop, and/or your school said "that's too dangerous for us" and cut your teams program just like that?

I think it is one thing to poke fun of some boneheaded decisions we all make, but to gloat about it in the sense that "my scar is deeper and more permanent than yours" is just plain foolish!

Pavan.

[joesmomh00haha]

PICTURES ONLY PLEASE.

Watch, I'll show an example.

Our gear boxes hurt more than yours.

[Dancin103]

I'd have thought you'd have gotten some nasty bruises from the soccer balls in 2002.:) The bins were 2003. (And the bins took a lot of damage--I think of team 330s 25 or so, half a dozen survived.)


Only a few of ours survied, and the ones that did we now use for storage...lol

[Guido]

It's good that this forum was created because everyone knows that we can't talk about our injuries at competitions - that's when the safety judges are around!
There haven't been major injuries on my team while I've been on it (that I know of). I received a helping of minor cuts from our 2k6 bot whenever I had to load it in a hurry (which was basically before any elimination match) due to some gears and chains that were not placed in an idiot-proof location. I, as the unaware idiot, reaped the consequences. I started wearing gloves to protect myself, but then people started making fun of me. . .

$@#$@#$@# pink

[Woody1458]

two years ago we were working with sheet metal in the pit, (bending edges to make it safe of course) and the whole system came loose and snapped up wards toward on of our members face, thank god for safety glasses because it hit him on the glasses, then slid up his face putting a gash in his eyebrow. How bad would that have been without glasses lol

[Justin M.]

Burns, endless cuts, some requiring stitches. I've also gotten some aluminum shavings in my eye a few times, not fun. I was drilling a hole and forgot safety glasses. That doesn't happen anymore.

Needless to say, injuries are almost unavoidable when building anything. Chances are you will get hurt at least once. You just need to try to counteract that by being real careful and safe all the time.

[joesmomh00haha]

Burns, endless cuts, some requiring stitches. I've also gotten some aluminum shavings in my eye a few times, not fun. I was drilling a hole and forgot safety glasses. That doesn't happen anymore.

Needless to say, injuries are almost unavoidable when building anything. Chances are you will get hurt at least once. You just need to try to counteract that by being real careful and safe all the time.

Prove it this Forum was meant for hardcore pics.:mad:

[joesmomh00haha]

omg, i just remembered, this was not on build season, it was me building a personal robot, i was using an LED with really strong leads, i was forcing it into a jumper wire and it slipped and i stabbed myself in the leg with the lead of an LED

it hurt like words im not allowed to say and i was bleeding for 1/2hour or so

Prove it

[Andrew Bates]

Not everyone takes pictures of their injuries. Also why does anyone need to prove it? It's not a contest to see who has been hurt the most.

[1619Aaron]

Last year my another team member and I went on an adventure to find pools noodles for the bumbers. When we got back some one pointed out that my leg was bleeding, but it had already stopped. Like, it happened before we left. It was a pretty big gash but not deep To this day I have a scar from it. ><

In 2006 I was being stupid and touched the flywheel for throwing balls. Bad idea. But luckily I took my hand back soon enough so as nothing hapened. Excet a bruised ego and long black streeks on my hand...

[1619Aaron]

Not everyone takes pictures of their injuries. Also why does anyone need to prove it? It's not a contest to see who has been hurt the most.

Yeah save the pissing contest for the competition. :P

[otomerobot]

During last years season I went home almost every night with a new bump somewhere. I'm a clumsy person and I tend to either drop things or walk into things. :o

So far no bruises :D

Their just bound to happen.

[AdamHeard]

Prove it this Forum was meant for hardcore pics.:mad:

Hardcore pics? Too bad I don't have any from when it first happened, just the scars now.

In 2005 another student and I were playing around with a piece of steel we found that kind resembled a machete (It was as practice with a grinder.... It was about 2-3" wide, 2 foot long and 1/4" thick with ground sharp edges).

After enough horseplay, the inevitable happened; We both tripped and it ended up going straight through my chest and out the side. It hit both lungs but luckily only nicked my heart.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6320/woundedadamhd9.jpg

[Pokechop]

Hey guys... were do i begin ?

I think i will begin with my oldest injuries:

My first year i was cutting tread for our wheels and i sliced my hand open

Then my most recent injury was again in 07' where i was tightening a fully charged drill with a 5/16 drill bit and i pressed the trigger and my hand slipped onto the chuck and the drill bit drilled my hand and i left like all the skin from the space between the thumb and forefinger... on the drill bit, not sepecially delicious. We soaked it in bleach and forged forward, O YEAH ! I then went to a clinin where my hand was cleaned and i recieved three stitches. So yeah

[Zultraranger]

Not everyone takes pictures of their injuries. Also why does anyone need to prove it? It's not a contest to see who has been hurt the most.
pics or it didn't happen.

[joesmomh00haha]

Not everyone takes pictures of their injuries. Also why does anyone need to prove it? It's not a contest to see who has been hurt the most.

says you

[joesmomh00haha]

pics or it didn't happen.

thats what I'm talkin' bout brotha. Wooh Wooh Wooh!

[joesmomh00haha]

Hey guys... were do i begin ?

I think i will begin with my oldest injuries:

My first year i was cutting tread for our wheels and i sliced my hand open

Then my most recent injury was again in 07' where i was tightening a fully charged drill with a 5/16 drill bit and i pressed the trigger and my hand slipped onto the chuck and the drill bit drilled my hand and i left like all the skin from the space between the thumb and forefinger... on the drill bit, not sepecially delicious. We soaked it in bleach and forged forward, O YEAH ! I then went to a clinin where my hand was cleaned and i recieved three stitches. So yeah

proof or its no good

[joesmomh00haha]

Hardcore pics? Too bad I don't have any from when it first happened, just the scars now.

In 2005 another student and I were playing around with a piece of steel we found that kind resembled a machete (It was as practice with a grinder.... It was about 2-3" wide, 2 foot long and 1/4" thick with ground sharp edges).

After enough horseplay, the inevitable happened; We both tripped and it ended up going straight through my chest and out the side. It hit both lungs but luckily only nicked my heart.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6320/woundedadamhd9.jpg

thats a sweet one man:D

[Joe G.]

proof or its no good

Once again, this thread should be to tell stories, mostly as a warning to others. Not to brag about how badly you have hurt yourself.

Ex. Someone on my team used a wood cutting chop-saw blade to cut box aluminum. It ripped the aluminum, and Almost injured the person in question. Moral of the story, use proper blades. Is this any less true because this person didn't have to go to the emergency room? Of course not.

[joesmomh00haha]

Once again, this thread should be to tell stories, mostly as a warning to others. Not to brag about how badly you have hurt yourself.

Ex. Someone on my team used a wood cutting chop-saw blade to cut box aluminum. It ripped the aluminum, and Almost injured the person in question. Moral of the story, use proper blades. Is this any less true because this person didn't have to go to the emergency room? Of course not.

you are absolutely right. i mean you know everything about this thread we created.

but for now we're gonna need to see a picture.

[JaneYoung]

Once again, this thread should be to tell stories, mostly as a warning to others. Not to brag about how badly you have hurt yourself.



You are absolutely right.

Also, if a student has been injured in a shop during robotics, this is not something to treat as a sideshow. Safety is a big part of being a part of a robotics team. Respecting safety is a big part of a robotics team. The position of safety captain was created to help insure safety. Let's not make this thread a sideshow through attitude or disrespect.

[SgtMillhouse648]

lets see, I've had the usual cuts and scrapes, slipped and ran about an eigth inch of the tup of my thumb through the band saw, trimmed my nails with the belt sander, etc, but the best one was when I was using a snap punch on a small part and once again, it slipped, and I snap punched a good sized hole in the side of my thumb. hurt like no other.

[joesmomh00haha]

You are absolutely right.

Also, if a student has been injured in a shop during robotics, this is not something to treat as a sideshow. Safety is a big part of being a part of a robotics team. Respecting safety is a big part of a robotics team. The position of safety captain was created to help insure safety. Let's not make this thread a sideshow through attitude or disrespect.

Fine, we will share our "accidents" with pictures. :mad:

[heywuhjab]

Fine, we will share our "accidents" with pictures. :mad:

Dude we totally should. Come on why not have a little fun (not that gonnosyphilitis is much fun i'm sure):ahh:

[AdamHeard]

you are absolutely right. i mean you know everything about this thread we created.

but for now we're gonna need to see a picture.

Actually, you may have created this thread for that reason; but that reason is not really a good one for chiefdelphi. Please, grow up a little with your phrases and attitude; people are judging your team by your actions.

Also, my post was a complete falsehood just to satirize what the thread hard turned into; I was actually injured kickboxing and required surgery. I hope your team is more mature than you are.

[heywuhjab]

lets see, I've had the usual cuts and scrapes, slipped and ran about an eigth inch of the tup of my thumb through the band saw, trimmed my nails with the belt sander, etc, but the best one was when I was using a snap punch on a small part and once again, it slipped, and I snap punched a good sized hole in the side of my thumb. hurt like no other.

Proof...

[heywuhjab]

Actually, you may have created this thread for that reason; but that reason is not really a good one for chiefdelphi. Please, grow up a little with your phrases and attitude; people are judging your team by your actions.

Also, my post was a complete falsehood just to satirize what the thread hard turned into; I was actually injured kickboxing and required surgery. I hope your team is more mature than you are.

Please dude chill out a little i mean were a bunch of high school kids. You should have a little fun. Oh and about the kickboxing, the kangaroo always wins:D

[MARS-CJ]

I remember two years ago, we had to use three soldering irons to get the solder to melt (the school's soldering irons are none too powerful) and two slipped, burning my hand in four places (they bounced off and hit my skin again).

This year, our "fearless leader" was testing one of our prototypes (which was a pure catapult) and cut himself on the chin.

[JaneYoung]

Please dude chill out a little i mean were a bunch of high school kids. You should have a little fun. Oh and about the kickboxing, the kangaroo always wins:D

No, you aren't just 'a bunch of high school kids'. The students who register in ChiefDelphi with their team number and team location, are members of FIRST and they know and understand the phrase, Gracious Professionalism, that Dr. Woodie Flowers coined. If they are new members of FIRST and ChiefDelphi, they sometimes have to learn what that phrase means.

This thread should also be in a forum other than General because it is more of a Chit Chat thread.

[i_am_samus]

We downloaded autonomous code into our prototype robot and left it there. The next day, we fire the robot up so we can download more code into it. Little did we know, it would run that autonomous code automatically (we set it to call autonomous), so the robot charges at me and practically kills me and one of our coaches. I got a cut on the inside of my hand, and one on my toe (last time I wore flip-flops).

Lesson: Remember to download the default code at the end of the day.

[heywuhjab]

I remember two years ago, we had to use three soldering irons to get the solder to melt (the school's soldering irons are none too powerful) and two slipped, burning my hand in four places (they bounced off and hit my skin again).

This year, our "fearless leader" was testing one of our prototypes (which was a pure catapult) and cut himself on the chin.

Do you have a scar from it? (if yes reply with pictures)

[MARS-CJ]

Do you have a scar from it? (if yes reply with pictures)

No with both. My burns were very slight (and it's been two years) and Tim's cut was small and healed fast.

[heywuhjab]

We downloaded autonomous code into our prototype robot and left it there. The next day, we fire the robot up so we can download more code into it. Little did we know, it would run that autonomous code automatically (we set it to call autonomous), so the robot charges at me and practically kills me and one of our coaches. I got a cut on the inside of my hand, and one on my toe (last time I wore flip-flops).

Lesson: Remember to download the default code at the end of the day.

That same thing happened to me only we almost knocked over a few tables of computers but no one got hurt. You got any pictures of it though?

[EricH]

No, you aren't 'just a bunch of high school kids'. The students who register in ChiefDelphi with their team number and team location, are members of FIRST and they know and understand the phrase, Gracious Professionalism, that Dr. Woodie Flowers coined. If they are new members of FIRST and ChiefDelphi, they sometimes have to learn what that phrase means.

This thread should also be in a forum other than General because it is more of a Chit Chat thread.Jane is right.

Up front, I have had not injuries at robotics other than the unexplained nicks, metal shavings, and similar minor things.

Now, I would like to let you guys know about one set of awards that will kind of explain why we are not exactly happy about what this thread has become. These awards are the Safety Award and its associates, the Star of the Day and the safety credits. Safety is a priority here. Injuries are to be avoided wherever possible. This is why:

Safety glasses are required in the pits.
Teams are encouraged to have a Safety Captain.
There are people from Underwriters' Laboratories (UL), which monitors consumer safety, walking around making sure teams are safe.
The safety awards were created.If this thread is any indication, you are in a contest to see who has the worst injury from robotics. This is NOT what FIRST wants! These pictures you request can be graphic enough that a moderator might remove them from you post for you.

Please show a little more maturity when you post. You will soon be adults and expected to act like it.

[Drwurm]

If you follow enough precautions, FIRST is a pretty safe environment. The closest I ever got to anything dangerous was shorting (and killing) one of our batteries whilst trying to charge it. This year we've ordered APC connections to graft on to our battery chargers. That should put an end to the danger.

I also cut myself on a twist-off cap on a bottle of sparkling cider at a 294 end-of-build celebration...

[Koko Ed]

This thread is starting to take on a very familair feeling (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37011&highlight=hotel).
Sounds like teams need to tighten up their shop training a bit at least. Worst case scenario is hide the tools from the kids.

[heywuhjab]

If you follow enough precautions, FIRST is a pretty safe environment. The closest I ever got to anything dangerous was shorting (and killing) one of our batteries whilst trying to charge it. This year we've ordered APC connections to graft on to our battery chargers. That should put an end to the danger.

I also cut myself on a twist-off cap on a bottle of sparkling cider at a 294 end-of-build celebration...

**laughs hysterically**
Be careful those bottle caps are dangerous
**laughs hysterically**
:cool:

[meaubry]

I moved this thread to Chit Chat - Seems to me that is where this one belongs.

Please try and not post graphic pictures of injuries - I for one get grossed out.

I'm sorry that folks are getting hurt while participating in the robot build - try to be careful and follow good safe practices. We all realize that accidents can still occur. So if you do get hurt, take the proper precautions in cleaning and sanitizing in order to avoid infections.

Mike Aubry
Lead Engineer Team 47

[ZakuAce]

I seem to constantly cut myself on things. I think I could cut myself on a butterknife >.> And I don't even notice. It usually takes someone else to notice for me.

Them ->"Hey, you're bleeding."
Me -> "Oh yea you're right."

[heywuhjab]

I seem to constantly cut myself on things. I think I could cut myself on a butterknife >.> And I don't even notice. It usually takes someone else to notice for me.

Them ->"Hey, you're bleeding."
Me -> "Oh yea you're right."

Mental Note: don't give ZakuAce a butter knife

[joesmomh00haha]

Actually, you may have created this thread for that reason; but that reason is not really a good one for chiefdelphi. Please, grow up a little with your phrases and attitude; people are judging your team by your actions.

Also, my post was a complete falsehood just to satirize what the thread hard turned into; I was actually injured kickboxing and required surgery. I hope your team is more mature than you are.

post a pic of how mature your cuts are so you can set an example.:D

[joesmomh00haha]

THIS FORUM IS MAINLY FOR PICS!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU HAVE A STORY YOU NEED TO BACK IT UP. ONLY IF THE STORY IS TRULY HILARIOUS, THEN WE MAY CONSIDER IT TO BE TRUE WITH OUT A PICTURE.

[EricH]

post a pic of how mature your cuts are so you can set an example.:D
THIS FORUM IS MAINLY FOR PICS!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU HAVE A STORY YOU NEED TO BACK IT UP. ONLY IF THE STORY IS TRULY HILARIOUS, THEN WE MAY CONSIDER IT TO BE TRUE WITH OUT A PICTURE.
Please try and not post graphic pictures of injuries - I for one get grossed out.
I would advise you to pay attention to meaubry. He isn't the only one who gets grossed out. I have seen a picture of what happens when long hair gets into a lathe. Some of the people on 294 have probably also seen it. After the cleanup (when the picture was taken), it still scared me. No, I would NOT post it, even if I could get a copy of it. It's a little too graphic.

You obviously are missing the point. We are telling stories as a WARNING, not for fun. We don't have to prove them with pictures, partly because chances are nobody has a camera or the "presence" of mind to use one. Most of us have teammates on here who can verify stories if needed.

/soapbox

[JaneYoung]

THIS FORUM IS MAINLY FOR PICS!!!!!!!!!!!

sneeble,
It may be frustrating that this thread is not turning out the way you had planned for it to. You can't force it to be what you want. Anytime someone creates a thread, it then becomes open to discussion. You opened this thread in the General forum, opening it to discussion and participation. It was then moved to Chit Chat where it is still open to discussion and participation.

It is my understanding that you want photos of injuries that occur in FIRST. By looking at the way this thread is playing out, you aren't going to see that many photos.
a. there may not be that many to post - which would be a good thing, showing that shop safety is being following
b. posters are not interested in showing their injuries for any numbers of reasons
c. this is a very busy time of year and the focus is on build and preventing injuries during build
d. maybe the general attitude in this thread is a turn-off. That's a possibility that you might consider.

Typing in all caps tells all of us that we are being yelled at. Telling the members of CD that their injuries will only be judged as true with the proof of the photo is insulting. When an injury occurs, there is pain involved and no one needs to prove that they have suffered. Common courtesy and respect go a long way in ChiefDelphi.

[AdamHeard]

post a pic of how mature your cuts are so you can set an example.:D

They most recently healed in July, So I'd six months mature; which apparently is far more than yourself.

THIS FORUM IS MAINLY FOR PICS!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU HAVE A STORY YOU NEED TO BACK IT UP. ONLY IF THE STORY IS TRULY HILARIOUS, THEN WE MAY CONSIDER IT TO BE TRUE WITH OUT A PICTURE.

No, this forum is for teams to communicate and collaborate in a postive manor; Far from the discussions of this thread.

I was a fan of 1841's robot last year, I'd like to think your team isn't aware of how bad you are making them look; please grow up (which I would prefer) or stop posting.

[joesmomh00haha]

They most recently healed in July, So I'd six months mature; which apparently is far more than yourself.



No, this forum is for teams to communicate and collaborate in a postive manor; Far from the discussions of this thread.

I was a fan of 1841's robot last year, I'd like to think your team isn't aware of how bad you are making them look; please grow up (which I would prefer) or stop posting.

I meant to type thread instead of forum. So let me rephrase that. This Thread Is For Pics Only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[meaubry]

joesmomh00haha -
Let me rephrase my message -
NO GROSS PHOTOS ALLOWED - none, zip, zero, zilch
If you want folks to post gross pictures, start your own website and forum.

Gee, I hope that was clear enough.


Mike

[vivek16]

I agree, This thread, regardless of the threadmaker's intention, should be to share warnings and advice not just pictures. and seriously, when you get serisouly injured why the heck would you stop to take a picture of it?

-vivek

[Joe G.]

I meant to type thread instead of forum. So let me rephrase that. This Thread Is For Pics Only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread is part of this forum.

JaneYoung put it very well a few posts ago, that just because you created this thread, dosen't mean it will not take on a life of its own. There are many legitimate reasons for those who have been injured to be unable or unwilling to post pictures of their scars:

-pictures unavalible
-pictures violate forum rules
-pictures bring back bad memories
-pictures too numerous
-shows off evidence that they have behaved in ways that would probably be frowned upon in consideration for the safety award.

There are also an equally legitimate number of reasons for others not to want to view these pictures. (no offense to those who have posted pictures already) I know people who would feel sick at what has been posted so far, let alone what is avalible on the rest of the internet if you truly want to go out of your way to see people getting hurt. Chiefdelphi is not the place to get grossed out. It is a place for constructive discussion about experiences, past, present, and future, within the FIRST community. Learning lessons from experiences such as those highlighted in this thread falls into this, laughing at blood and gore does not. It's that simple.


(Not to discourage non-gory pictures, if you have them, are willing to post, are confident that they will not gross anyone out, and feel they will help teach other's why NOT to do whatever caused them, then go ahead.)


People make mistakes. I know I did when I first joined this forum. However, pushing something like this and refusing to learn from what others say will only get you in trouble. If you look at, for example, the "game hint #4 thread," you will notice that things only started getting ugly after the poster refuses to fess up, and begins just being rude.

People will say "they're just dots." This is true, people shouldn't judge others by them. However, this dosen't mean you shouldn't judge yourself by them. Remember, your posts reflect not only yourself and your team, but also others, who you have never met. For example (I'm assuming that) Team 47 (chief delphi) uses these forums as a prominent part of their website award submission. Would they have won awards for their site for as many years as they have, or at all, if this forum was full of inappropriate material, and not the great resource that it is and that that we all want it to be?

[CzarValvador]

Um, here is a cool story. This is KINDA a first Injury, but not exactly.

On the kickoff day, January 5th, after we watched the video we were supposed to meet at school for the rest of the day. I ditched my team to go Ice skating for my friends birthday... Oh, it was great, I got to hang out with my friends from my sig.

Right after they clean the Ice off, I went on the Ice to show off in front of my friends again (I used to play Hockey) as they stood in a circle. I ****ed up and fell. Knocked over my friend as he fell down, his feet went up and came down.

I felt a Numb feeling on my finger as I started getting up and laughing about the situation. As I looked at my hand, I noticed a fifth of my pinky was missing. Laughter stopped, as I heard the more vulgar version of "Oh crap" echo through the rink. I put my hand on my finger and ran the hell off the ice on my ice skates. Although it didn't hurt very much, a bunch of my friends were freaked out even though I gave them a sign that I was fine.

Anyway, this is what my hand looks like now.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8996/bettertg3.jpg


I lost my finger because I ditched robotics.

By the way, here is a comparison of my two pinkies.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8110/comparehk4.jpg
(Picture shouldn't be gory at all, you don't see anything disgusting, its just my two fingers side by side)

[vivek16]

By the way, here is a comparison of my two pinkies.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8110/comparehk4.jpg
(Picture shouldn't be gory at all, you don't see anything disgusting, its just my two fingers side by side)

don't mean to be rude but... does it affect your typing much?

That really does suck. How was the whole hospital thing?

thanks, vivek

[Mike Schreiber]

Although I've never had any MAJOR injuries I hold last year's records for most small cuts in a small period of time...ironic because I became safety captain. In 2 weeks I filed my knuckle, drilled the side of my finger, closed the toolbox on my hand, hit my knuckle on the crank on the mill, took a rotor broach out of a drill press and hit it on my hand, pinched my palm in a joint, and cut myself on the sheet metal on the ramp...rough season :-P

As far as serious injuries someone let the rotor broach walk while lightening and got the nail on their thumb and the skin under it...that was icky, she's fine now though, nothing permanent just looked nasty and painful (which I'm sure it was)

[Zyik]

At Cal Games we had a team mate jump down some stairs... we thought he just sprained his knee but it turns out he tore his ACL. He's had surgery a couple of times sience then and currently is wearing a brace.

[CzarValvador]

don't mean to be rude but... does it affect your typing much?

That really does suck. How was the whole hospital thing?

thanks, vivek

Hospital thing sucked for a few reasons.

1. They took 4 hours to clean out the Wound and Bandage it up. About 15 minutes of those 4 hours were they actually doing anything.

2. It was my friend's 18th Birthday when it happened, I felt like I was ruining the entire thing since they followed me to the Hospital even though I told them to go home.


And no, it doesn't affect my typing that much anymore. I have now got used to typing without my Ring Finger and Pinky on my right hand (with only occasional miss types). The Ring Finger is the side effect of when it used to hurt when I moved it. The bandage is still on it since the skin hasn't cover the wound yet... not even half.

To my surprise it didn't even hurt that bad when it happened.

Edit: Wait, did you mean my typing was inadequate in any way?

Edit 2: Forgot to mention that last Year's robot attacked Ryan, our electrical mentor, on Saturday when Programming team forgot that for some reason everything resets to zero after a clock cycle (or some other Programmer Mumbo Jumbo) so our robot's arm grabbed the mentors arm and dragged him to the ground.

[ZakuAce]

Mental Note: don't give ZakuAce a butter knife

haha then how will I butter my toast?!

[vivek16]

Edit: Wait, did you mean my typing was inadequate in any way?


No, I was just wondering if you missed keys ever or it takes you longer or something.

I haven't gotten seriously injured but there are always those minor cuts and pinches you get. I burn myself with hot glue waay too much... I guess I should be glad Im not using soldering stuff at all :D

thanks, Vivek

[CzarValvador]

At first typing was a little harder, but I got used to shifting my hand a little bit to compensate for the two inactive fingers. Although I do slip up a little bit every now and than.

Its kind of like going from Medium to Hard on Guitar Hero... that one extra button makes you shift your hand... hah.

[heywuhjab]

haha then how will I butter my toast?!

...

with a spoon of coarse!

[vivek16]

haha then how will I butter my toast?!

with a cleaver... :D

-vivek

[!aaaaa!]

i cut my head off once or 9 times or so

[joesmomh00haha]

As we all know, modern media thrives on sensationalism. The purpose of the thread was to raise awareness to all of the injuries that occur in FIRST. As you can see in the span of 5 days there have been 98 posts and 2500 views, job well done by us getting the word out. WE APOLOGIZE if a few feathers were ruffled or if anyone got offended, but can't you see that awareness of safety has been generated?

So if you have stories post them but if have an injury and you happen to get a picture....we still want to see it, we're not looking for terribly graphic wounds but a few scrapes and cuts here and there are fine.

[catatac2225]

One of the members on our team got savagely attacked by a zip tie. He still has the scar.

[joshsmithers]

The funniest i've seen was last year at Palmetto Regional. We shared one side of our pit with 1618, so I was watching them fix their robot. They turn it on to test it and Billfred is lucky enough to be standing in front of their CIM driven arm. Not even my good ol physics teacher from the appalachains could produce a louder "yelp".

[Romeo1351]

I learned not to reach across the table while someone else is holding a soldering iron. Burned between my fingers.

And heh, a story about another team member, our 2007 Head of Software/Electronics was soldering, and a mechie was next to her.

Mechie: "Wow, I could never solder that stuff together so fast..."
Head: "Well, that's why I'm Head of---OUCH!"

Excellent timing.

Oh, and now that I remember...our school, back in 07, used sports as a theme for their Back-to-School Dance. So obviously, 5-6 of us went in our TKO blue, resistor earrings, etc. I decided, idiotically enough, on a "zip tie ring". Had to bite the darn thing off when I realized my finger was a few shades too dark.

[J-me]

Hey! I thought i was the only one with stupid injuries!! last year i was holding some metal things together for another person to drill...and well...the drill skipped a bit and hit the right side of my right hand...i lost most of the feeling on the right side for a month or two...i learned my lesson for helping guys out without wearing gloves!! :yikes: :cool:

[Jakob]

So many people on our team have been hit with these STUPID arms that we have....In the knee, in the arm, and in the head. I mean, seriously!

[Mike Schreiber]

These happened this season and were too funny not to post. Not that injury is funny or that I'm saying safety is a joke, but everyone enjoys someone else getting hit (providing it's not serious).

One of our mentors was testing our prototype, and we used a screwdriver as a release that we had tied to a strap. Well he pulled on that thing and couldn't get it out, so he put his foot up on the side of the prototype and pulled as hard as he could, and that screw driver came whipping out. You get 7/16 of a guess where it hit him. He was on the ground in pain nearly instantly. Of course no permanent damage (that we know of) was done, and hopefully someday he will still be able to have children.

Student *Hits aluminum with mallet*
Mentor "No, do it here where my finger is"
Student *Hits EXACTLY where finger is*
Mentor *PAIN*

[Kittybot]

This isn't machine-related, but this happened at the beginning of build season this year. That Friday, we're out in the hall waiting to let a team-mate in outside of the workshop. Our coach had gone to the restroom and was coming out. Coral, another one of my team-mates, went to check the workshop's door to see if they were there instead, thus closing the door and locking our coach and me out. He went up to the door knocking loudly. Michael came up to open it, not knowing our coach was directly behind the door, and opened the door really fast. The door hit our coach right in the nose, knocking him back in pain (at least I thought he was in pain, he's a good faker). I thought his nose was broken for sure, so I asked him if he was alright. So, he stopped groaning in pain, got up and said cooly, "Yeah I'm good." He scares me to death and just walks away from it, gees. :rolleyes:

[mrbob1000]

i was emory papering a wheel shaft down so i put the shaft in the drill and then i turn it on and i put the emory paper on the shaft. well... the shaft started catching and i didnt loosen up and it compleately caught and flicked my thumb around.

today is the morning after and my thumb is 2 times as big.

[J-me]

Saturday one of the guys were marking a spot with a scratch all for where to drill...and he was underneath the robot. he went to hit the scratch all and it fell in hit him inbetween the eyes!!! Nice shot!! :eek: He has one big bruise from it...and i don't think he'll be underneath for a while!!!! :p ;)

[Carlee10]

This is definitely an interesting thread. Most of mine come form talking while working, or not looking at what I'm doing. Like the other day, I was cutting velcro with an Exacto knife and suddenly my finger was bleeding. Alot. I had to to do a whole bunch of stuff to get it to stop. Its not that I was goofing off or doing something clearly stupid and/or dangerous(those two things seem to walk hand in hand), it was purely an accident. Things like that just happen. People on my team hurt themselves accidentally all the time, its a lab with a bunch of tools and we're there for long hours, something's bound to happen. But usually, we take care of our cuts and scrapes like adults( BTW, alchol pads hurt like heck on open cuts!).

[martin417]

Some minor student injuries (burns from drilling chips etc) and one stupid mentor injury (me) I was machining a plastic part on the lathe, (making the final cut on the last part for the robot) and the tool grabbed (too much chip buildup pulled the tool into the part) and the whole thing flew out of the lathe and hit me in the forehead:mad: . Three hours and 20 stitches later, I was good to go:o .

Oh well, at least it wasn't a student:] http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii29/martin417/head.jpg

[Kittybot]

Talking about the stupid things we do as a team and what has happened to my coach, now (happened today and is twice as bad of an injury I posted about the other day). I just talked about this in another thread. Today, our coach and a few male members decide to have our coach hold up the track ball to his hip, waist area while the boys run at him. The first two had no effect. Then our big boned member, Joey, about 190 lbs, runs at him! Not only does our coach ricoshe (I don't know how to spell it) off with the ball in hand, he flies back 7 feet into the tables and stools at the side of the room. Let's just say he got a bit of a head injury and a loose tooth. Later, he injured his right leg, within 3 minutes of the last injury, but instead he ran at Joey holding the ball instead. Sigh, I love my team! :D