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BornaE
11-02-2008, 12:03
Let's rock the biggest Arizona Regional.
Our robot(39) is Done(99% robots are never done :) ) and we can't wait until the competition.

falconmaster
11-02-2008, 15:56
Yaaahhhoooooooo! Lets go!

s_forbes
11-02-2008, 16:02
The regional should be amazing!

Our bot is complete, sans bumpers and side panels (which should be on today!). We just need to finish some of our magical autonomous modes and get the drivers practicing. I hope we get on an alliance with both of you guys this year. High score maybe? :)

Brandon Holley
11-02-2008, 16:16
Team 125 from boston is comin across the country to be there!

BornaE
12-02-2008, 16:10
I guess it's too soon to predict the winners, but let's just guess.

I would say 1726, 842, and 39 (the bots look very similar)

Zultraranger
12-02-2008, 16:40
Team 125 from boston is comin across the country to be there!
no offence, but why?

MrForbes
13-02-2008, 09:07
why? hmmmm....because it's Arizona in March? If you've never been, you need to give it a try!

Don Knight
13-02-2008, 10:21
no offence, but why?

It's going to be Sunny and 75 degrees here today!
What's the temperture where you're at? :yikes:

We're glad you've choosen to come west!

kaisest
13-02-2008, 12:19
Arizona is gonna be great as usual, can't wait.

See you all saturday for duel in the desert!

Brandon Holley
13-02-2008, 13:24
no offence, but why?

Because we want to!

jhaugen
13-02-2008, 14:12
Team 842 looks forward to meeting ya'll.

Cactus_Robotics
14-02-2008, 00:47
Should be a awesome regional this year! Cant Wait.

Donut
15-02-2008, 02:05
I'll enjoy taking a break from classes to come attend yet another AZ regional. I get to watch this year, haven't had that leisure since 2003!

Also, high school Seniors, apply for the Steve Sanghi Scholarship! This scholarship is exclusive to seniors on teams attending the AZ regional and going into a technical field so there really isn't that many eligible applicants in the first place, let alone that apply. As last year's winner I can say it helps for schooling as well as feels great to get recognized! The scholarship application is only e-mailed to the registered adult team member (I think the one in TIMs?), so it's easy to miss and overlook.

njamietech
15-02-2008, 21:08
Team 624 (CRyptonite Robotics) is coming from houston texas for our third go around.

Besides the Lone Star Regional, Arizona has been my all time favorite.

See all of you there.

Also keep an eye out for our teaser coming soon (courtesy of the CRyptonite Robotics Media Team).

vballterry
25-02-2008, 18:17
Is anyone looking in to webcasting from Phoenix this year? I looked at the other streaming posts, but saw nothing about AZ. NASA didn't post the AZ link until the last minute in 2007. 1828 is willing to help out, but my only experience is the other delphi posts.

I'll be contacting the FIRST AZ rep if I don't hear back from anyone.

See you in Phoenix!

Don Knight
26-02-2008, 10:31
Is anyone looking in to webcasting from Phoenix this year? I looked at the other streaming posts, but saw nothing about AZ. NASA didn't post the AZ link until the last minute in 2007. 1828 is willing to help out, but my only experience is the other delphi posts.

I'll be contacting the FIRST AZ rep if I don't hear back from anyone.

See you in Phoenix!


Don't believe that we are webcasting the regional this year.

The reason we were webcast last year was our Emcee Jeff Seaton, he works for NASA and was able to make it happen.

vballterry
26-02-2008, 16:13
Don't believe that we are webcasting the regional this year.

The reason we were webcast last year was our Emcee Jeff Seaton, he works for NASA and was able to make it happen.

Will we have a local feed on the big screen? There is lots of help out there from teams that have webcast the local feed, or another camera, at other regionals using ustream.tv. I can even supply the equipment, even an internet connection, if there is none available at the Coliseum.

With the planning committee's approval I'd like to pursue this. Please contact me. I'll send you a message.

Valkyries_698
26-02-2008, 16:42
Sadly I do believe there are rules against bringing in your own internet connection, to the regional. Correct me if im wrong thou.

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedfiles/community/frc/events/2008/2008_AZ_SiteInfo.pdf
can never hurt to ask :D

Don Knight
26-02-2008, 17:42
Sadly I do believe there are rules against bringing in your own internet connection, to the regional. Correct me if im wrong thou.

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedfiles/community/frc/events/2008/2008_AZ_SiteInfo.pdf
can never hurt to ask :D


That is correct! You are NOT allowed to bring in your own internet connection to a venue.

BornaE
26-02-2008, 17:46
That is correct! You are NOT allowed to bring in your own internet connection to a venue.

How can we get internet access if we are willing ot webcast the competition?

vballterry
26-02-2008, 19:03
How can we get internet access if we are willing ot webcast the competition?

We're working with Mr. Knight and the Regional Committee to get this worked out. I'll post any progress made as soon I as hear.

MrForbes
26-02-2008, 19:05
Thanks! My wife was planning on taking Friday off work to stay home and watch a webcast....

vballterry
27-02-2008, 17:50
Good News, We've gotten the necessary permissions and I've setup a ustream show. There's not much there yet, but I'll add info to the page as a get time.

http://ustream.tv/channel/first-az-regional-2008

Don Knight
28-02-2008, 10:05
The Arizona Regional Planning Committee would like to thank Terry Jensen, Team 1828 (The Boxerbots) and the Vail School District for all their help and technical expertise in getting the Arizona Regional Webcast set up.

Here is the link once again, send it to all your supporters who weren't able to make the trip so they can cheer you on from home!

http://ustream.tv/channel/first-az-regional-2008

Also for all those traveling from out-of-state Temperatures should be in the low 70's and lots of sun.

Brandon Holley
28-02-2008, 10:14
Also for all those traveling from out-of-state Temperatures should be in the low 70's and lots of sun.

Just so you know its supposed to be 7 degrees in boston tonight and its been snowing for the past week on and off... :rolleyes:

StephLee
28-02-2008, 11:44
Just curious...when will the webcast be starting? I know there's a time difference, I'm just wondering if they'll be showing practice matches today or not...

s_forbes
28-02-2008, 11:47
Arizona is next weekend, so I expect it'll take at least another week!

Joe Ross
28-02-2008, 11:47
Just curious...when will the webcast be starting? I know there's a time difference, I'm just wondering if they'll be showing practice matches today or not...

The Arizona regional isn't until next week.

ALIBI
28-02-2008, 11:50
If you are asking about AZ, sorry, if they do it will not be until at least next week. All this waiting for someone to go live is driving me crazy.

EDIT: WOW, it took me three minutes to log in and I got beat twice!

StephLee
28-02-2008, 12:14
*feels stupid* Sorry about that! I blame being sick....

Donut
29-02-2008, 20:25
Our team will be recording the AZ regional ourselves again as well, the footage for it will be going up sometime after the competition. I'm pretty sure we'll be distributing AZ Regional DVDs later this year as usual, but I won't confirm it just yet.

Only a week to go, this is going to be a great Regional!

ZachKahn
29-02-2008, 20:50
Team 1515 and our buddies 207 (also from California) will be joining in on the Arizona fun.

See you all there!

Lions for First
03-03-2008, 20:56
im so happy that the 1st regional i go to will be in my home state see you all thursday

Cactus_Robotics
03-03-2008, 21:17
Don whos the mc gonna be this year though...?

davidmedeiros
04-03-2008, 07:47
I can't wait for the regional.
I don't think it's possible for me to be any more excited :D

BornaE
04-03-2008, 09:04
Can't wait......
Why does everyday seem like a week :(

Should be the best regional ever.

See you all there!

p.s. if you need any help, stop by team 39's pit. we would be happy to do whatever we can(not much).

BornaE
04-03-2008, 09:08
To all 2008 Arizona Regional Teams:

If you IR board has the brown out problem(trains, but does not respond) we would be happy to reload the code to your board.

Stop by our pit and ask for Frank or Borna.

Ziaholic
04-03-2008, 09:36
To all 2008 Arizona Regional Teams:

If you IR board has the brown out problem(trains, but does not respond) we would be happy to reload the code to your board.

Stop by our pit and ask for Frank or Borna.


Ditto. If the line is too long at the pits of Team #39, stop by the pits of Team #2449 and we can upload HEX files too. It's on a laptop, so we can even make housecalls ... er, um ... Pitcalls! (ask for Marc.)

See ya in a few days!

Mark Pierce
04-03-2008, 11:08
Because we want to!After seeing the 2007 AZ regional, I can sure understand wanting to go there. It's a great field of competitors in a friendly and well run regional.

Although I won't be visiting this year, I'll be thinking of Team 1164 and cheering them on remotely.

Good Luck to all those participating in AZ. Have a great regional.

Don Knight
04-03-2008, 15:40
Don whos the mc gonna be this year though...?

I'm Happy to announce that Wayne Penn from Boston will be making the trip to the "Valley of the Sun" as our Emcee this year. We will also be training some local talent in that key position.

Ryan Dognaux
06-03-2008, 13:37
So it seems that the Arizona Regional webcast is up and running. I don't know about anyone else, but it's being pretty choppy, and while I'm glad that team 1828 is making the broadcast possible, is that going to be scrolling across the screen all day tomorrow and Saturday? It's a bit distracting.

s_forbes
06-03-2008, 13:39
Yeah, I think they're overdoing it on the effects a little...

I was watching it earlier, and it wasn't choppy until the number of viewers jumped up to 40-50. (with some luck I should be able to see it in person on friday and saturday and won't have to watch the choppy webcast)

XaulZan11
06-03-2008, 13:52
So it seems that the Arizona Regional webcast is up and running. I don't know about anyone else, but it's being pretty choppy, and while I'm glad that team 1828 is making the broadcast possible, is that going to be scrolling across the screen all day tomorrow and Saturday? It's a bit distracting.

Yeah, its choppy for me too. The field is also super bright, making some of the 'metal' bots appear blend in and look like ghosts. I suspect it is because the field is so bright and the background is so dark that the camera's sensors are trying to find a middle ground, but in doing that the field is getting over exposed.

vballterry
06-03-2008, 14:14
Yeah, its choppy for me too. The field is also super bright, making some of the 'metal' bots appear blend in and look like ghosts. I suspect it is because the field is so bright and the background is so dark that the camera's sensors are trying to find a middle ground, but in doing that the field is getting over exposed.

Thanks for the comments. It's practice for us also, so you might see some strange things today. NO, we won't have the scroll up all the time. Yes, we were training on some gadgets earlier.

We adjusted the brightness and contrast. Let me know if it helps. Our internet connection isn't the best, we're adjusting the frame rate to see if it will help.

Jonathan Norris
06-03-2008, 14:42
here's a hint for everyone watching the webcast, go menu-buffer time-increase to 5sec. It will improve the webcast alot.

Guys running the webcast, lower the video quality, hopefully that will increase the frame-rates. Its out right now...

Nibbles
06-03-2008, 23:21
The stream should work with any number of people, since it is streaming from ustream, not the stadium.

My web-based scouting system should be running in the stands tomorrow tracking scores, matches, and penalties, should be running. I could use some help entering data in. I'm a real person wearing a caution tape bow-tie (and team 498 button and/or black team shirt), probably in the camera area in the center of the seating.

Great seating/pit layout this year, by the way. Teams just need to learn that you do not own areas of the seating for yourselves...

MrForbes
07-03-2008, 00:04
here are some lousy pics of the match list for those who are interested....sorry for the lack of quality!

Donut
07-03-2008, 00:42
Unfortunately teams aren't receiving their printed version of the match schedule until tomorrow, all we got was to see it on the video feed. I (and a number of other teams) took down the matches we were in, but I don't think anyone got the entire list.

For anyone who wants an exciting match watch match #1 tomorrow at 9:30 Arizona time. I remember that 39 is in it, one of the best teams here, so it should be a good opener for the regional.

And I'm glad to see team 125's robot arrive today. Can't wait to actually see it on the field tomorrow!

s_forbes
07-03-2008, 00:45
And I never saw where the pits are... are they in the back loading area? (and are they open to the public still this year?)

BornaE
07-03-2008, 00:47
We got our match list at 8:40, unfortunately I don't have it with me.

and yes we are on the match #1, Thanks for the comment, your robot was one of the few that were running, and it scores well.

Good luck to all teams tomorrow, should be fun.

Donut
07-03-2008, 00:49
And I never saw where the pits are... are they in the back loading area? (and are they open to the public still this year?)

Kind of. The practice field is in its normal place next to the machine shop in the back loading area. The pits are on the South side of the stadium under the seating (the areas in the past that were large empty exhibition rooms that teams would cut through to get outside faster).

s_forbes
07-03-2008, 00:53
Sounds cool! I'll be sure to check it all out tomorrow morning (hooray for being able to go!)

MrForbes
07-03-2008, 01:01
here's a bunch of not too good pictures of most of the robots, but it's practice day and most were being worked on so the robots are not complete.

http://selectric.org/nerds/2008az/

Sorry again for the not so nice web page...it was easy for me to put them there, but not so easy for you to see them.

BornaE
07-03-2008, 01:10
Can the scouts post a rough top ten list, i was running all the day to get the bot working, and a lot of our members were absent.

Donut
07-03-2008, 01:27
Some of the better teams from matches I witnessed:
39
498
815
1011
1324
1515
1726
2375
2380
2478

And the most unique mechanism goes to 2406, for the wind up ball-knocker-offer (just watch a match with them and you'll notice it quickly).

I didn't get to see alot of matches though and many teams didn't run today so this is a pretty poor gauge of what the field will actually look like tomorrow (notice especially I saw maybe 4 low numbered teams in any matches I watched). I'll post the results of our scouting information after tomorrow, as about 100 other teams will.

Brandon Holley
07-03-2008, 01:37
And I'm glad to see team 125's robot arrive today. Can't wait to actually see it on the field tomorrow!

We're also very excited to have our robot in our possession even though we did not get it until 3 pm today :(

The good news:
We got the robot
We are close to being ready to compete on a full scale

The bad news:
We are not fully inspected
We definitely will be missing our first match tomorrow (Match #2)

We did our best in the 5 hours we had to get the robot as up and running as possible.

Hopefully tomorrow by lunch everyone will see us hurdle, finally.



By the way thanks to all the teams who have been helping us out with parts, information and everything else. Teams 842, 498 and 698 have been class acts and we thank you guys for everything you are doing for us.

It's been a very long journey, and its only thursday night....we're confident however that we can get through this and by tomorrow afternoon it will be like none of this ever happened.

Mark Pierce
07-03-2008, 22:19
The stream should work with any number of people, since it is streaming from ustream, not the stadium.Thank you for providing this service. It's been really great to be able to watch these matches.

Wayne Doenges
08-03-2008, 06:44
Did I see right? Did a team set a record for most penalties (12) :ahh:
What were most of them for.
You do not need to mention the team.

N7UJJ
08-03-2008, 08:06
I was in the pits and did not see it, but it was during hybrid mode when a robot went next to the line and started to spin. Every time part of the robot crossed the line, they received a 10 point penalty. I'm not sure how many they earned then (-90?) but it was considerable. There were a few more line infractions during teleoperated mode.

I'm sure someone who saw it will post a better description.

MrForbes
08-03-2008, 08:49
The match list schedule is on the FIRST page

http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/AZ/schedulequal.html

Looks to be a great day today, can't wait to get started!

good luck teams!

Donut
08-03-2008, 09:06
Did I see right? Did a team set a record for most penalties (12) :ahh:
What were most of them for.
You do not need to mention the team.

In total the alliance had 13 penalties in the match. I don't know what all of them were but the majority was from the incorrectly operating hybrid mode. I just remember being stunned to see "-130" on the screen in the penalty column.

Ziaholic
08-03-2008, 22:19
Team #2449 had a BLAST at the AZ Regionals!!! We want to thank just about EVERYBODY THERE!

(I'd say everybody, but I'm still a little miffed at the folks in the parking ticket-windows ... sheesh, I thought parking was taken care of ... oh well ... I guess it's my fault for not jumping into the team van :( )

Here's a link to my YouTube video of Match #6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ujSPIjfDlw) from an Out-of-Orbit point of view ...

The video is from our first official FIRST match. We were a little rusty in the beginning, but we ironed out the wrinkles and ended up with a pretty capable driver team, pit team, scouting team, strategy, and overall competition mindset by the time the dust settled. There will be more links, to more pix and videos. Check out the Team #2449 website (http://www.team2449.com/)in a few weeks and we'll have plenty of pix and videos for your viewing pleasure.

Winning the Rookie All Star Award and the Xerox Creativity Award was a real honor and we give many many thanks to the sponsors, the mentoring teams, our rookie-team mentors (ahem), and the enthusiastic students that make up the Heart of the Out of Orbit team.

We are very much looking forward to meeting up with a lot of you again in April in Atlanta, and/or next March in Phoenix!

Time to hit the hot-tub, my back is KILLING ME!!!

Thanks again!!!

Lions for First
08-03-2008, 23:29
the regional was GREAT it was our first FRC (and sadly last, for this season at least) event and we hope to do even better next year
P.S. team 2449 that was an awsome robot you have to show them what a rookie team can do.

=Martin=Taylor=
08-03-2008, 23:31
Who won what?

Ziaholic
08-03-2008, 23:48
Here's a link to the awards page (http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/AZ/awards.html) from USFIRST.org

... and these (http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/AZ/rankings.html) are the match standings ...


All of the regionals are summarized here (http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/regionalevents.aspx?id=430).

TheOtherGuy
08-03-2008, 23:48
Well... I can't say I didn't have fun, but this regional definitely was not up to par with last year in my eyes. Everything that could go wrong with our robot did go wrong. I don't think we had a single match where the robot worked like it should (the hybrid had some major problems... halfway through the regional it started acting up and we could locate the problem). Having 1/3 the teams as rookies really changed things up a bit as well. It may be good in the long run, but it sure made alliance selections interesting.

Overall, I'm a bit disappointed. The regional was nothing like we expected, the lack of fun revolving around our strange and continuous robot problems.

But that's just me. I know most members on our team had fun, as well as a majority of the crowd and field crew. And it was another successful, flawless regional thanks to the handful of incredible volunteers!

Matt H.
09-03-2008, 03:18
I had a great deal of fun both Thursday and Friday, but felt that alliance selection was a bit of a toss up and Saturday was very stressful as we struggled to fix electrical problems (we believe we have a loose connection, but can't find it--trouble shooting tips are welcome) and also attempted to support an alliance.

I was very impressed by the rookie teams and their turn out however I do have one gripe. If teams are going to "start" 30 rookie teams each year then they also need to support them. There were many examples of rookies having no idea how regional events worked or of basic robot design principle--things which I believe are the responsibility of the mentoring team. What made this especially obvious was a rookie team with absolutely no idea how alliance selections worked picking numbers at random. Perhaps the prestige of the chairman's award has led teams to simple start up teams and then leave them rather than forming a mutually beneficial relationship. (It looks much better to have started 30 teams than to have started and worked with 3.)

Nibbles
09-03-2008, 03:18
We had a great time, and even better, we had no mechanical or electrical failures (not to mention a great looking bot)! Wish I could say good things about programming...

I want videos of quarter final match 2-3... that indecisive trackball was probably the most intense fifteen seconds of at least this year for me.

Our team stayed after and helped take down the arena, a very nice way to end an otherwise depressing realization that there won't be any events for us until next season.

Vikesrock
09-03-2008, 03:29
I had a great deal of fun both Thursday and Friday, but felt that alliance selection was a bit of a toss up and Saturday was very stressful as we struggled to fix electrical problems (we believe we have a loose connection, but can't find it--trouble shooting tips are welcome) and also attempted to support an alliance.

I was very impressed by the rookie teams and their turn out however I do have one gripe. If teams are going to "start" 30 rookie teams each year then they also need to support them. There were many examples of rookies having no idea how regional events worked or of basic robot design principle--things which I believe are the responsibility of the mentoring team. What made this especially obvious was a rookie team with absolutely no idea how alliance selections worked picking numbers at random. Perhaps the prestige of the chairman's award has led teams to simple start up teams and then leave them rather than forming a mutually beneficial relationship. (It looks much better to have started 30 teams than to have started and worked with 3.)

I believe it is the responsibility of every veteran that saw those clueless rookies and didn't step in and give them some help. I know last year that we were the clueless rookies at Wisconsin. Our alliance selections were terrible, but we managed to make the best of it and claw our way to the finals before falling to a great alliance. I know that I plan to go around to all the rookies that seed or may move up into the Top 8 this year at MN and make sure they know how things work.

All you can do know is learn from mistakes and work towards doing better in the future.

With regards to the electrical problem, I recommend you start a thread in the Electrical section with as much detail as you can give about the problem (I know you don't have access to your bot and that will make it difficult). I'm sure you'll get some great advice from Al S. and others about how to go about identifying your issue.

Hopefully you can get your issues resolved and have a great time at LA!

Donut
09-03-2008, 04:05
This was another great regional and in many ways improved over previous years, the number of rookie teams (and those that were good too) was outstanding and the new pit and field set up is so much better than the old one. Not to mention it's the most teams AZ has ever seen!

Thank you to team 207 for selecting us for your alliance, and congratulations on two well deserved awards! And another thank you to our other partner 2449, who is one impressive rookie team. I remember watching their robot at Duel in the Desert only a few weeks ago and I didn't realize until yesterday that this bot had been built by a rookie team. We made it to the quarterfinals with these two and it was one of the closest playoff rounds I've seen. Quart-Final 2-3 had the best ending ever, I would NEVER have believed I'd be screaming at a trackball that much and that the entire stadium would be doing so with me. I'm going to work on getting that match up ASAP.

Congratulations to 60, 39, and 1165 for a dominating playoff performance and a well earned Championship. 3 champs in a row for 60 now, and 2 for 39, this is becoming quite the streak!

And I have to say that of all our team's robots ever built, this is the one I'm most proud of. It went 4-4 and was ranked 28 out of 52 (and no where near the best performing robot we've made), and only made it to the quarter-finals. It was not the best robot at the competition in any game category, be it scoring, defense, or autonomous. It had no super-cool doohickey mechanisms and didn't provide any strange or spectacular gameplay to watch. It got penalties that sometimes lost matches. It won no awards at the competition, but for the first time since joining the team in 2004, I can truly say I don't care.

Because this is the first robot we've ever committed to and successfully finished early so that we'd actually get to drive and test time before Thursday at Regionals.
Because this is the first year we were inspected before 6 PM and without frantic filing or finishing touches, passing inspection at 11 AM.
Because this is the first time we've ever had 0 break downs, and the only thing repaired was re-stapling bumpers.
Because this is the first year our robot actually looked good, when we've had trouble turning out anything other than an aluminum-colored hulk in the past.

And because this is the first robot we've built that succeeded at everything we wanted it to. It was simple. It was low maintenance. It scored effectively. It had an autonomous that worked. Its look caught attention. And it was finished on schedule. All of our past robots, even those that were top 8 seeds and won technical awards for one feature or another, failed to achieve at least one goal.

To all the rookies at Arizona, any team that may be disappointed their robot isn't ranking highly or taking shiny hardware home, and even the teams with robots that are: figure out what the few (or only one even) simple things are you want to achieve with your robot, be it organizational, aesthetic, or functional, and ensure that you go all out to get those few goal(s) achieved. When you do you won't care if you leave the competition with two trophies and a medal in hand or a bottom seed with an 0-8 record, because you'll know you did everything you wanted to do with that robot. And I can tell you, it's the greatest feeling you can get from this competition.

Ziaholic
09-03-2008, 15:20
...

and it was one of the closest playoff rounds I've seen. Quart-Final 2-3 had the best ending ever, I would NEVER have believed I'd be screaming at a trackball that much and that the entire stadium would be doing so with me. I'm going to work on getting that match up ASAP.

...


I've got that one on tape also ... working on some edit's as I've got 2 clips ... ball yelling in clip 1, and final score in clip 2. Once I splice them together I'll upload it and provide a link here.

I clearly saw, first-hand, the entire contact-patch of the ball completely across the finish line. The tape isn't conclusive, but it's supportive. I've gotta' re-read the rules regarding how much of the ball has to cross the plane, because if the whole ball has to cross, then it was clearly not enough to score. The alliance penalty somewhat negates the relevence of this call, but it was suspensefull nonetheless. Without that penalty, and if that final ball crossing counted, it would've been a tie! :(

(and Thanks for the 'bot compliments, we were very proud to ally with y'all)

Vikesrock
09-03-2008, 15:26
I've got that one on tape also ... working on some edit's as I've got 2 clips ... ball yelling in clip 1, and final score in clip 2. Once I splice them together I'll upload it and provide a link here.

I clearly saw, first-hand, the entire contact-patch of the ball completely across the finish line. The tape isn't conclusive, but it's supportive. I've gotta' re-read the rules regarding how much of the ball has to cross the plane, because if the whole ball has to cross, then it was clearly not enough to score. The alliance penalty somewhat negates the relevence of this call, but it was suspensefull nonetheless. Without that penalty, and if that final ball crossing counted, it would've been a tie! :(

(and Thanks for the 'bot compliments, we were very proud to ally with y'all)
From Section 7 of the Manual:

CROSSING: The act of a TRCKBALL or ROBOT passing through the plane defined by a line (i.e.
LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE) when it is projected vertically upwards. A TRACKBALL or
ROBOT shall have CROSSED a line when all parts of the object, while traveling in a counterclockwise
direction, have completely passed through the plane.

So the entire ball would have had to cross through the plane to score.

falconmaster
09-03-2008, 18:27
"What made this especially obvious was a rookie team with absolutely no idea how alliance selections worked picking numbers at random."

I agree, it did seem strange to watch some of the rookie teams pick. It looked random to me. You do have to ask your self one questions though, some of those rookie teams must have had some good mentoring to be in the finals.

We learned alot about our bot and from other bots concerning launching the trackball. We will be testing these ideas in LA and LV when we attend the regionals there. Hopefully by Atlanta we should have a very competitive bot.

Thanks to all the teams that helped us, like 1725 and 39. Also good job to all the PUHSD schools out there. We need to get the remaining three schools in the district involved so we can become possible the first district to have all its schools in FIRST.

Overall I thought the AZ regional was great. As much as I dread seeing 100 teams that we have to compete with in the near future AZ regional I look forward to it as well. It will mean that we will be fast approaching Dean's vision of all the H.S. in the US having a FIRST team. Where the quality may be lacking for a awhile, their hearts and minds will not and isn't that the point anyway. All of us can help raise the quality of the teams, that is what GP is all about. I want to thank 1726 again for the launching idea they shared. I know that there are a grip of teams out there using the concept! Thanks Again and see you in LA or LV which was it I don't, remember you are going to?

JB987
09-03-2008, 20:21
Congrats from Team 987 goes out to all who competed at the Arizona Regional, but special props to our friends in Team 60 and 39 who continue to show the rest of the FIRST community that there is a growing number of great teams from places west of the Mississippi! Looking forward to playing with/against you guys in a couple of weeks in Vegas...

Donut
10-03-2008, 02:56
Overall I thought the AZ regional was great. As much as I dread seeing 100 teams that we have to compete with in the near future AZ regional I look forward to it as well. It will mean that we will be fast approaching Dean's vision of all the H.S. in the US having a FIRST team.

With the new regional set up there was lots of room left in the main arena floor. I think that with a bit of re-arrangement to fit some more teams in the new pit area and possibly opening a second large room for pits, the coliseum could easily house a super-regional with 2 fields.

...of course I'd also love to see a 2nd regional pop up in Northern or Southern Arizona instead, so single regional teams could choose between them and better financed ones would have another option for Regionals within easy driving distance.

I forgot to mention in my previous post as well, congratulations to 842 on their 4th straight Chairman's Award! Hearing their impressive list of accomplishments for the year, I think this may be their year to take home the grand prize at the Championships.

CCCP
10-03-2008, 17:47
could anyone give me a link to the video archives (arizona regionals)

BornaE
10-03-2008, 17:58
could anyone give me a link to the video archives (arizona regionals)

I have Recorded all the matches, but they are in AVCHD and they are about 70 gigs

Any suggestions about how to convert them in a reasonable time?

MrForbes
10-03-2008, 18:04
I have recorded a bunch of matches, but I'm having fun with conflicting video codecs on my computer and also haven't felt very good the last few days, so I haven't managed to do anything with it yet.

Sorry I don't have any recommendations for conversion software...that seems to be a magical subject which I know far too little about.

BornaE
10-03-2008, 18:09
I have Recorded all the matches, but they are in AVCHD and they are about 70 gigs

Any suggestions about how to convert them in a reasonable time?

If anybody wants to get any particular match, i can conver it with Vegas(it take a long time)

let's start with eliminations.

vballterry
10-03-2008, 19:49
could anyone give me a link to the video archives (arizona regionals)

You can download recorded clips of all the elimination matches from the Ustream site. The quality isn't great, but it's better that than the live stream was. Also, audio somehow got mixed in from other people's clips.

****NOTE*****
After writing this I check out Ustream and it looks like only the broadcaster can download the video. I'll download and convert them and post the clips on our team website as soon as I get a chance.


The clips must be downloaded in *.flv format, but you should be able to convert it.

Also, as is discussed in other threads, the live feed often isolates single bots and it's hard to tell what's happening around the whole field if you're not there, but maybe this will help some teams until other video becomes available.

http://ustream.tv/channel/first-az-regional-2008

Donut
10-03-2008, 20:16
Eventually I'll be getting up the match footage we took onto TBA and SOAP (it's the same footage that will be contained in the DVDs teams could sign up for on the sheets we handed out at the Regional), however this probably won't be for at least a week seeing as I'm in a different city than our video recorder and I don't want to receive gigabytes of video through email.

When I can get them up playoffs will be first, then qualifiers, and finally awards ceremony.

vballterry
10-03-2008, 20:27
Eventually I'll be getting up the match footage we took onto TBA and SOAP (it's the same footage that will be contained in the DVDs teams could sign up for on the sheets we handed out at the Regional)

I never saw the list. Could you add 1828 to it? Send me a message with info you'll need and what they'll cost.

Did you make last year's DVD? That was awesome. Very easy to use and it's been a fantastic publicity tool for us.

N7UJJ
10-03-2008, 21:41
I never saw the list. Could you add 1828 to it? Send me a message with info you'll need and what they'll cost.

Did you make last year's DVD? That was awesome. Very easy to use and it's been a fantastic publicity tool for us.

Same with 842 if no one from our team signed up for it.

Allan

MrForbes
10-03-2008, 22:52
Ditto for us! The DVD of the 2007 regional is great.

Donut
11-03-2008, 03:54
They're free as usual and yes we made the ones last year (and before that, and before that...). Actually I think I have every match played in the Arizona Regional's history on DVD except for 2003 thanks to the mentor who's been recording them.

I don't know which teams returned the papers, I just know they went out during pit day and most teams returned them within that day. We had students going around to collect them as well so the odds are good we got one from your team.

kborer22
11-03-2008, 08:25
Question for everyone that attended AZ: Did anyone else not talk to any judges?!

As you all know we were in our pits all day thurs until the robot showed up, and worked feverishly thursday night and friday to get everything up and running, but no judges came to talk to us. Until the very end of the day satruday i believe (some time before alliance selection). Anyone else have this problem?:confused:

Brandon Holley
11-03-2008, 08:32
Question for everyone that attended AZ: Did anyone else not talk to any judges?!

As you all know we were in our pits all day thurs until the robot showed up, and worked feverishly thursday night and friday to get everything up and running, but no judges came to talk to us. Until the very end of the day satruday i believe (some time before alliance selection). Anyone else have this problem?:confused:

Just for clarification, we had 1 judge come to us (the entire competition), and it happened during alliance selections....

TheOtherGuy
11-03-2008, 10:16
I believe we had a group of 3 judges come on Thursday or Friday, and that's all I saw of them...

I remember a lot more last year.

Donut
11-03-2008, 10:52
We did have some come by on Saturday, I don't remember any on Thursday. There may or may not have been any on Friday.

Since the judges have limited time they may have chosen (for Friday at least) to only come by the pits of teams that had caught their attention as possibilities for the Friday awards.

Brandon Holley
11-03-2008, 10:54
If anybody wants to get any particular match, i can conver it with Vegas(it take a long time)

let's start with eliminations.

quarterfinals 2 match 3 and match # 69

BornaE
13-03-2008, 02:43
On behalf of team 39, I would like to thank team 60 for picking us, and also team 1165 for their hard efforts.

I also want to congratulate every team that participated in AZ, especially teams 1212, 1164, and 1492.

Arizona Was a great Regional this year, but next year would definitely be better, and more fun.

Donut
16-03-2008, 17:50
Great news! I have the footage for all of the matches now, I will be uploading them during this week to SOAP and TBA. Playoffs will be first, then matches, and finally awards. There will be a few oddities in match footage so I'll warn you now; match 29 will be up twice because it had to be replayed on Saturday, there's at least one match where the final score was not displayed on screen (this can be found from TBA or FIRST instead though), and we are missing one of the semifinal matches for some reason (I think semi 2-1, have to check).

We've gone through the DVD forms we received and we've got 21 teams signed up currently (better than in the past, but still less than half the regional). Teams we have forms from:
57
60
125
842
1164
1165
1290
1324
1456 (missing e-mail)
1492
1515
1633
1828
1897
2196 (missing e-mail)
2365
2403
2486
2570
2657
2662

If your team isn't on this list and you'd like a DVD please respond in this thread, message me, or e-mail me with your:
Team number
Team name
Contact name
E-mail
(optionally) Phone number

If we're missing your e-mail you may want to resend contact info since it is easier communicating through e-mail. Teams on the list can resend info if they think they might have given a bad e-mail or something too; sometimes these can take until close to the end of the school year to get out, meaning we'll have trouble reaching you if your contact isn't available in the summer.

We also welcome requests from any teams who didn't come to the AZ Regional but would like a copy of the DVD anyway, maybe it can help convince you to come compete at this great event next year!

Ziaholic
17-03-2008, 01:49
Ooops. Looks like Team 2449 - Out of Orbit, didn't make the list. We'd really like a copy!

I can PM you with detailed contact info.

Thanks a ton!

BornaE
17-03-2008, 03:10
Could you please add team 39 to the list?

Contact infor are coming with PM

skippy178
17-03-2008, 12:27
Please add Team 178, the Enforcers, c/o Jason Armistead (mentor), Otis Elevator Company, 5 Farm Springs Rd, Farmington, CT

E-mail is firstname.surname@otis.com

Ziaholic
17-03-2008, 17:20
FYI, I thought I'd post this in here as well as some showcase thread elsewhere on the forum.

I took all of my video and photo footage from this season, and the AZ regionals and created a Tribute Video for Team 2449.

The medium-res version is on YouTube, but I have a higher-res version available also ... just trying to figure out if there's interest and how I might distribute a 235 MB MPEG-2 file.

Here's a link to the YouTube version ... Hope you like it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJz4W1cd7SA

Valkyries_698
18-03-2008, 15:41
Robots at competition>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/valkyries1/sets/72157604148193853/


People in competition>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/valkyries1/sets/72157604143690594/


Higher resolution photos are available upon request. I still have more photos to upload so you can check back at http://www.flickr.com/photos/valkyries1/ anytime.

mjgard
18-03-2008, 17:24
The Arizona Regional was a great time. We want to thank all the teams that helped us through our first regional. There was some amazing designs that impressed everyone. We are looking forward to next year. Unfortuantly as a rookie team we wont be going to Atlanta. We came close, but not close enough.




__________________________________________________ _______________
2008 Arizona Regional - Highest Seeded Rookie Team
2008 Arizona Regional - Semifinalist Blue Alliance (2365, 842, and 125)

henryBsick
18-03-2008, 17:37
So the regional has long been over, but I have something that cannot go unsaid.
I would like to thank all teams for a great competition.
125 came in to the competition in a pinch and in need with a late robot and a lack of tools. Any team there that we asked for anything was very gracious in helping us out. I would like however to point out 3 teams that went above and beyond our call for help. Teams 498 698 and 842. Team 498 and 698 had boxes of spare parts and various essential robot items ready for us when we arrived... that is impressive and I cannot express how much 125 appreciated this. Team 842 being right across the aisle in the pits from us took us under their wing for the entire competition. From lunch everyday, to any tool in their pits, to help programing a compressor, these guys did not stop giving. Because of the efforts of these teams 125 was able to get on its feet after a late start and have the robot tuned and working for the finals. 842, you guys really are a class act and completely deserve the chairman's award.
Now, with one competition under our belt we will be better prepared and fully functional for Boston in a couple weeks.
Again, thank you to all teams at Arizona for a great competition and one of the best displays of the ideals of FIRST that I have seen in my time in the program.

kaisest
18-03-2008, 18:00
It was very cool to see 125 come out and do well at the end, you guys would have most likely dominated most of your qualifing matches.

Awesome job to all the rookie teams, very impressive to see how many there were this year.

For those who have been watching, matches have been appearing on soap the past few days, so go watch them and show your friends!

Next year shall be great, hopefully az can organize some more events like dual in the desert, those are always great.

N7UJJ
18-03-2008, 19:21
Again, thank you to all teams at Arizona for a great competition and one of the best displays of the ideals of FIRST that I have seen in my time in the program.

Well, everyone was watching over you. We were glad that you had not been picked by one of the teams for the finals. When our alliance got to pick you as the third team, I thought we had a champion alliance. 39 has one fantastic robot and are just about impossible to stop. They are a good group of kids with a killer robot. We meet them again in L.V.

Best of luck in Boston and hopefully we can all meet in Atlanta.

Allan

falconmaster
18-03-2008, 19:33
STeam 842 being right across the aisle in the pits from us took us under their wing for the entire competition. From lunch everyday, to any tool in their pits, to help programing a compressor, these guys did not stop giving.

You are very welcome! If we ever lose our bot when ever we go to Boston we will look you guys up!
Good Luck in Boston coming up!

kibbs425
18-03-2008, 21:04
I would like to thank everyone in Arizona.

Our formal statement can be read here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65729&highlight=125+Arizona

We really and truly appreciate everything that everyone has done for us! I have never seen just a helpful environment! You folks out in Arizona know how to help people out that are in a jam and show them a GREAT time!

Good luck and hopefully we'll cross paths again! You ever come out east and need some help give us a shout and we'll do everything we can!

THANK YOU!!!

Weightmn
27-03-2008, 22:16
Team #2380 Jag Robotics would love a copy of the video!

Please PM me and I can send you our info.

Thanks for doing this!! :-)

Weightmn
27-03-2008, 22:48
Hi everyone,

I was asked to be one of the official AZ Regional Photographers and have gotten all of my photos online. It is set up so that if anyone wants to order photos/photo gifts etc online.... it is quick and easy.

Please keep in mind I didn't get all of the teams unfortunately due to team issues that I needed to be a part of, but I did get a lot of pics. I do know there were others taking photos, if you do not see your team in this grouping of pics. I am pretty sure you will hear of others probably going online.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

You can view the photos by going to:
http://discreativeedge.com/

Look along the left column and click show all photos.

ZachKahn
28-04-2008, 18:00
Check out our brand new episode of MorTorq TV live from THE ARIZONA REGIONAL.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=743726#post743726

Thanks everyone for a great regional!