View Full Version : What programming environment do you use?
If other, specify.
I was wondering about your experiences with that environment.
TubaMorg
11-03-2008, 15:50
Depends on what I'm working on:
Visual C++ for, uh, C++ projects usually OpenGL type stuff.
Borland JBuilder for Java although they've been bought out and JBuilder has turned into Eclipse which I'm not too comfortable with.
Emacs for Perl when I'm working in a Linux environment. A computer science teacher forced us to use Emacs one semester and it's stuck now. If I'm making small changes to C or C++ code that's already on Linux, then I'll go ahead and use Emacs for that too.
Only time I work with C is for FRC. I tend to poke around with our team's program using MPLAB, but the students use EasyC because they aren't very good with coding yet. I'll try some stuff out using MPLAB and then try and get them to replicate the effort with EasyC.
proegssilb
11-03-2008, 16:33
I use Eclipse, they use EasyC and Eclipse.
Alan Anderson
11-03-2008, 16:37
For FRC, I use MPLab. For other team-related software projects, I often write Tcl programs. I didn't put "Other", because I don't think that Notepad counts as a programming environment. :-)
lasereyes
11-03-2008, 16:38
I am generally know programming concepts (from JavaScript, and other past experiences), but this was the first time I had to use C. Although I would've loved to learn C and use either MPLab or Eclipse, I didn't have the time to learn it in 6 weeks. So I ended up using easyC.
Not that there's anything wrong with easyC. EasyC is a great program for people to become familiar with programming in general. However, I do with I knew enough C to use an actual program (programming isn't supposed to be easy).
EHaskins
11-03-2008, 17:39
For robotics I use MPLab.
For .net and web programming I use Visual Studio 2008 (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2008/default.aspx), and Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)when I don't want to wait for VS to load.
For robotics I use MPLAP, for java programs I use Eclipse, and for Python I use IDLE 2.5
For FRC MPlab, with EasyC for testing.
For non-FRC on the Mac I use Xcode for C++ and Taco HTML and Smultron for CSS.
On Windtel comp I use Visual studio for everything -HTML. Crimson Editor is the best for HTML and CSS.
For FRC, I use MPLab. For other team-related software projects, I often write Tcl programs. I didn't put "Other", because I don't think that Notepad counts as a programming environment. :-)
In my first post, I actually considered saying that I consider notepad an environment.
slavik262
11-03-2008, 18:20
For Robo, I'm using MPLab with WPILib. For fun, Visual Studio 2005 and 2008 (mostly Visual Basic.NET and Visaul C++).
Cow Bell Solo
11-03-2008, 18:48
When programming our robot I use MPLab and when programming our team's website(http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com) I use Notpad or Notebook which ever is available on the computer I am using.
whitetiger0990
11-03-2008, 18:54
I count notepad as a programming environment. Not a very good one, but hey, you didn't specify it had to be =p
I personally use Vim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29), to compile I use Make (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_%28software%29). (I know it wasn't mentioned, but we use Git (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29) for versioning)
laultima
11-03-2008, 19:01
Im kinda surprised nobody's mentioned it yet. I quickly got sick of the way MPLab displayed code, and after failing to get Eclpise (which I use for Java) to work, I saw a post by a member of team 610 with a link to CodeBlocks.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62212
All you have to do is copy and paste your mcc18 folder into the folder in the CodeBlocks directory and your good to go. My favorite environment by far.
bear24rw
11-03-2008, 19:10
code::blocks ftw!
Specifically, I went over the default code in MPlab, wrote our program in EasyC, and then wrote the program in MPlab. I pretty much had to teach myself, but the white papers in CD were very helpful in getting me started.
I like MPlab generally speaking though.
I would like to mention these three, one on pid loops (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1823), the other two on applied programming.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1904
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1740
scottanderson
11-03-2008, 19:40
WPILib in MPLab, with Emacs as the editor (all other editors are but pale imitations of the One True Editor, natch).
We tried EasyC but found it too restrictive.
Notepad is totally FTW.
:)
Although I hate to support the company that destroyed PC gaming, we use Microsoft Visual Studio.
Although actually, we get it free through an educational liscense.
YAY FREE STUFF:P
MPLab for robotics, Dev C++ for other C,C++ programs, Eclipse for Java, and usually just a text editor for all other languages.
erikstotle
21-03-2008, 13:40
For robotics, MPLab. EasyC is too restrictive. For C++/Qt - KDevelop or vi. I use vi for everything else (PHP, HTML, Bash)
Spider-Man
21-03-2008, 13:52
I use Eclipse for Java projects and FRC. For everything else, I use Emacs/Make/Shell on GNU/Linux systems.
We (ususally) edit files in an external editor, compile in MPLab.
AustinSchuh
21-03-2008, 14:22
We use VIM and Makefiles under Linux to program the robot, and I use the same setup for any other programing I do. Who needs an IDE when you can have 4 virtual desktops and 7+ xterms at your disposal?
Although this wasn't asked, we use SVN for revision control for both our code and our CAD files (solidworks) for the bot. It makes bringing up a new machine much easier.
HighLife
21-03-2008, 19:41
Gedit and VIM :)
rogerlsmith
22-03-2008, 00:08
I've had great success with Eclipse and WPILib for both FRC and my own VEX bot.
Roger
popnbrown
22-03-2008, 00:32
I use MPLab for Robot programming because it's neat and puts everything together, I like it for projects. I use Eclipse now and then but usually get tired of it. Textpad for quick Java projects. Bloodshed for C++ and C. Dreamweaver for HTML and CSS and Web projects. O and JCreatorPro because my Computer Science teacher makes us saying its easier to use (no complaints but I prefer Textpad, less complicated)
We use VIM and Makefiles under Linux to program the robot, and I use the same setup for any other programing I do. Who needs an IDE when you can have 4 virtual desktops and 7+ xterms at your disposal?
Although this wasn't asked, we use SVN for revision control for both our code and our CAD files (solidworks) for the bot. It makes bringing up a new machine much easier.
What is SVN?
SVN or Subversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion_(software)) is a software control system for tracking software changes. It is similar to Concurrent Version System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_Versions_System).
What it means is there is a central site that you check in and check out versions of your robot software. That way you can track what changes are made. It works well if you have 2 or more developers. They can all work on the software and put their changes in. You can roll back to prior versions if you find that something did not work the way you expected it to.
Even single developers will find it useful for the roll back features.
AustinSchuh
23-03-2008, 20:46
Even single developers will find it useful for the roll back features.
And this gives you a sense of security that is greatly appreciated. You can no longer get your code in a state where you don't know how to get it back to a working state.
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