FTC World Championships

[astephen68]

This is going to be a great championship this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am wondering which teams qualified for atlanta through this weird selection this year

[Diriye]

Team 188 will be sending a team down for the first time this year! :D

On a side note, when will we know which division (Edison or Franklin) we'll be competing in?

[astephen68]

Team 188 will be sending a team down for the first time this year! :D

On a side note, when will we know which division (Edison or Franklin) we'll be competing in?

Good Job going down to Atlanta this year. Congrats on defeating us in Ontario, you guys have a great team and an amazing robots.

I think the announcement of the division will properly be announced after the last weekend of the FRC competitions which is after the New York Regional

[astephen68]

Whoever goes to the FTC Championship good luck and see ya'll down in Atlanta

[fredliu168]

Team 188 will be sending a team down for the first time this year! :D

Wow I honestly did not expect blizzard to go for FTC, but your bot definitely will do very well. It is one of the most consistantly good bots I've seen in FTC this year.

On a side note, it seems Canada will have a large number of teams representing it this year.

Canadians teams going:

189 Blizzard
339 Simbotics
478 Mustang Robotics
(maybe) 225
721 TBA
722 Vexagon
one other vancouver team I believe

Who wants to bet at least one Canadian team takes the world championship. :D

[dtengineering]

Wow I honestly did not expect blizzard to go for FTC, but your bot definitely will do very well. It is one of the most consistantly good bots I've seen in FTC this year.

On a side note, it seems Canada will have a large number of teams representing it this year.

Canadians teams going:

189 Blizzard
339 Simbotics
478 Mustang Robotics
(maybe) 225
721 TBA
722 Vexagon
one other vancouver team I believe

Who wants to bet at least one Canadian team takes the world championship. :D

Yes, there will be two Vancouver teams from Gladstone Secondary making the trip. They took both the BC Regional, then partnered up with another Vancouver (ok... Burnaby) team to take the Washington State regional. A fourth Vancouver team was a regional finalist in Seattle, too... there was lots of hardware to declare at the border on the bus back from that trip.

Jason

[astephen68]

Nice all over canada their are teams going and i predict that it's going to be a great championship because of all the teams that have the same idea and their robots are almost the same

[Rick TYler]

then partnered up with another Vancouver (ok... Burnaby) team to take the Washington State regional.

I'm really, really hoping that you all make it for the May 10 Washington RoboFest. Nothing would make our teams happier than another shot at the teams from BC. Come on down! I'll even buy the pizza. :]

[craig_yates]

121 is sending down 655.
yay

[KathieK]

I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing all the teams on Edison and Franklin in just a few short weeks! Our volunteers are placed and ready to go - it's going to be an amazing experience for everyone!

[Drwurm]

Beach Cities Robotics is FTC 23
Our bot went undefeated in San Diego. We're looking forward to our first FTC World Championship.

[wendymom]

Exploding Bacon FTC 8 will be competing in Atlanta

[astephen68]

Congrats to all winning teams in each FTC Championship this year

[Lowfategg]

Team Overdrive #74 will be attending.

So far we have done the following

Team Overdrive 74 - FTC 2007/2008:

Winners of Ohio FTC Championship and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Winners of Diamond State FTC Competition and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance)

Winners of New Jersey FTC Competition and Think Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

[astephen68]

Team Overdrive #74 will be attending.

So far we have done the following

Team Overdrive 74 - FTC 2007/2008:

Winners of Ohio FTC Championship and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Winners of Diamond State FTC Competition and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance)

Winners of New Jersey FTC Competition and Think Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Congrats on your 3 victories and you inspire award. Be great meeting you guys in Atlanta

[fredliu168]

Team Overdrive #74 will be attending.

So far we have done the following

Team Overdrive 74 - FTC 2007/2008:

Winners of Ohio FTC Championship and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Winners of Diamond State FTC Competition and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance)

Winners of New Jersey FTC Competition and Think Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Team overdrive 74 is the Chief Delphi 1998 + 2 chairmans(equivalent of inspire award) of FTC.

I personally think FIRST favours team overdrive, hence naming this year's game after them :P

[astephen68]

I am just wondering how this two divisions work? or is it one division two fields?

[Lowfategg]

I am just wondering how this two divisions work? or is it one division two fields?

I can tell you after NYC FTC event because they are running the four field and two divisions setup there.

[Andrew Bates]

I'm expecting there will be 4 fields this year. 2 fields per division. Last year with one division we had 2 fields so 2 divisions = 4 fields?

[KathieK]

We will be running two divisions - Edison and Franklin - each with two fields, for a total of four fields. While one field in each division is being played on the other is being reset and the teams queued up. Thereby lessening "downtime" in between matches, so we can get more matches in!

[Diriye]

Will the list of teams for each field be announced before the Championships, or at the Championships?

[Rick TYler]

We will be running two divisions - Edison and Franklin - each with two fields, for a total of four fields. While one field in each division is being played on the other is being reset and the teams queued up. Thereby lessening "downtime" in between matches, so we can get more matches in!

Awesome! Note to team: Bring ALL your batteries...

[astephen68]

We will be running two divisions - Edison and Franklin - each with two fields, for a total of four fields. While one field in each division is being played on the other is being reset and the teams queued up. Thereby lessening "downtime" in between matches, so we can get more matches in!

Awesome!!!! How many matches are you expecting to get in for each team?

[alex(squirrely)]

hey what is the food situation at world is it really overpriced or will threre be other places to buy i herad there was barbacue last year will it be there again

[Andrew Bates]

I'm expecting 8 matches. It sounds like there are the same number of teams and twice the fields. So that should mean double the matches, last year 4 this year 8?

[astephen68]

I'm expecting 8 matches. It sounds like there are the same number of teams and twice the fields. So that should mean double the matches, last year 4 this year 8?

Are you sureit's going to be the same number of teams because of the lottery to pick the events that get the picks to go in all. I am thinking less teams more matches like 10-11 could that be true?

[fredliu168]

I'm personally predicting 6 matches per team, although 8 sounds reasonable as well. Here's why:

Despite having more fields, I "think" FIRST only has a certain number of crystals. That will be the choke point for match efficiency. You can have as many fields as you want, but if there are only 8 crystals per field; the time it takes for crystals to exchange hands between teams will be greater.

Oh and also, I'm predicting 50 teams per division. Sounds reasonable enough?

What I want to know is, will there be division awards as well as awards for the entirity of the FTC competition. Specifically, would division winners and finalists leave with a trophy?

[Andrew Bates]

The crystal problem shouldn't be that big of a deal. There have been I believe 16 crystals at each regional. That's enough to run two fields at the same time so it should be fine. Also they will need extremely good crystal management. Maybe tie the crystals to control stations. Easier to track problems if they arise too. I'm thinking this is the best practice. Also it will make sure teams don't accidentally walk off with the crystals.

I think they said something about awards spanning both divisions.

[Francis-134]

I'm personally predicting 6 matches per team, although 8 sounds reasonable as well. Here's why:

Despite having more fields, I "think" FIRST only has a certain number of crystals. That will be the choke point for match efficiency. You can have as many fields as you want, but if there are only 8 crystals per field; the time it takes for crystals to exchange hands between teams will be greater.


While I have no acutal knowledge of FIRST's crystal situation, I know that the frequency range that the radios work on has 30 frequencies that are allocated to RC cars ranging from 61 to 90. It would be possible for the Vex robots to use any of these frequencies, making it certainly possible to run two, or even four fields simultaneously.

[Andrew Bates]

I believe VEX uses the odd numbered frequencies. VEX sells the following crystals in kits A and B 65, 69, 81, 85, 63, 67, 83, 87. There is also 61 in the starter kits. I know they have more frequencies in the competition set because they have always been able to give crystals to the teams on the field and those on deck.

[astephen68]

wouldn't they have all the cyrstals from every event down in atlanta for the reason of lots of matches unless they bring the same crystals from each event to the next event. Also i am wondering if their is 2 division do the wining alliance from each division go on to the finals between those two alliances?

[Andrew Bates]

The two winning alliances will face off for an overall winner I believe.

[KathieK]

I can take a stab at answering some of these questions, but please remember that everything is always subject to change! :)

The team list is incomplete because we still have events running. The division list is incomplete for the same reason. We're expecting 100 Quad Quandary teams (50 per division) plus 12 showcase teams.

We're playing in 2 divisions, Edison and Franklin, with division winners going head to head in a final match (so alliance selections for Edison teams will be among Edison teams only, etc). Division selections will be random and teams may not select the division they will play in.

We're hoping each team can get in 2 practice matches and 7 competition matches. We've put together an awesome set of volunteers and our goal is to keep on schedule as much as possible so teams get the chance to compete as much as we can fit in to the schedule!

Our new platform will debut in the Showcase Competition which is going to be held in the pit area on Thursday! Check it out!

The Public Agenda was posted on the FIRST website (http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Who/Media_Center/FIRST_Facts_Assets/2008/2008_CMP_PublicAgenda.pdf), and of course, is subject to change, but will give you an idea of all the stuff that's happening in Atlanta while we are there. Note that we have an awards ceremony on both afternoons now so plan to stay for it. Awards go to the division finalists, the finalist alliance and the winning alliance. Showcase teams will also win a finalist and winning alliance award. Judged awards are not per division (one Inspire winner, one Think winner, etc).

As you can see on the agenda, we're open on Wed afternoon for early team check-in and inspection. Save some time on Thursday and get it out of the way on Wed if you are already in Atlanta! We'd like everyone to be in the Dome for the final matches on Friday, plus to see the final matches of the Showcase, followed by Closing Ceremonies. Our pits will close early on Friday, but will be open on Sat morning for a couple of hours for those who still need to pack up. Plan accordingly.

Also note the FIRST Conference sessions (http://www.usfirst.org/community/firstplace/content.aspx?id=7520) - you may find them to be helpful to register for and attend. And plan to visit the Scholarship college tables - many of the Scholarships are being offered to FTC students as well as FRC students.

I hope that answers some of your questions...

[astephen68]

Do you know when we will know the results of the lottery, i have been looking around the offical first site but i have found nothing? Do you know when we would know the results

[Andrew Bates]

The results have already been sent to the teams that got in. Unfortunately if you have not been told yet I expect you did not get a lottery ticket.

[GeorgeTheEng]

To answer the crystal question. The total set of Vex Crystals (publicly available and competition set) is 30. 20 are part of the competition set. FIRST does own multiple crystals sets but the crystal process (being shaken down at NYC this weekend) will still be the bottleneck.

Experience shows that the publically available crystals really cannot be used because there is too much chance of interference when someone turns on a robot somewhere else with that crystal. For the same reason, I'd expect the teams will only receive the transmitter crystals at the last moment so that it is not possible to transmit on the competition frequencies accidentally. Unfortunately this is what we believe caused issues last year. No intentional malice on the teams part, but robots being turned on with crystals that were in use disrupting the templates and causing problems on the field. The goal is to minimize that this year.

[OZ_341]

I just wanted to welcome our partner schools in Singapore to the FTC Championship. I am not sure what team number that they registered with but they will be there. We are very excited for them and can't wait to see them in Atlanta.

[astephen68]

I just wanted to welcome our partner schools in Singapore to the FTC Championship. I am not sure what team number that they registered with but they will be there. We are very excited for them and can't wait to see them in Atlanta.

COngrats to those signapore teams who are travelling all the way to Atlanta :D GOOD LUCK

[Lowfategg]

Team overdrive 74 is the Chief Delphi 1998 + 2 chairmans(equivalent of inspire award) of FTC.

I personally think FIRST favours team overdrive, hence naming this year's game after them :P

Oh just something funny about your comment. We are team number 74 and Delphi is team 47 so we are the invert of Delphi's team number. :)

[astephen68]

Oh just something funny about your comment. We are team number 74 and Delphi is team 47 so we are the invert of Delphi's team number. :)

Are you guys going to Atlanta?

[Lowfategg]

Are you guys going to Atlanta?

Yup we are going and are extremely excited!

[astephen68]

Yup we are going and are extremely excited!

Which event did you win and how many events did you guys play? :D

[Lowfategg]

Which event did you win and how many events did you guys play? :D

Well this is what we have done so far this year, and we are still going to the NYC event this Saturday.

Team Overdrive 74 - FTC 2007/2008:

Winners of Ohio FTC Championship and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Winners of Diamond State FTC Competition and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance)

Winners of New Jersey FTC Competition and Think Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

[astephen68]

Congrats on the three wins.
Team 478 Mustang robotics which is the team i am on did this:

Winning Alliance Ftc Massatuchetts Event, Runner up on think award
Finalists Ontario Championship

[Lowfategg]

Congrats on the three wins.
Team 478 Mustang robotics which is the team i am on did this:

Winning Alliance Ftc Massatuchetts Event, Runner up on think award
Finalists Ontario Championship

Cool, I heard good things about your team and robot. I make sure to stop by and say hi when in Atlanta.

[astephen68]

Cool, I heard good things about your team and robot. I make sure to stop by and say hi when in Atlanta.

What kind of good things and thanks I want to meet you in Atlanta too. I'll come visit your pit :D

[astephen68]

I have a question is there going to be like a dvd that teams can buy after the championship at all?

[greg light]

330 better go, they are the best team in this competition.

[Rick TYler]

330 better go, they are the best team in this competition.

I guess we'll find that out in two weeks, won't we. :]

[Lowfategg]

What kind of good things and thanks I want to meet you in Atlanta too. I'll come visit your pit :D

Just some talk on the Vexforum. As for who is the best in this competition. There is not a robot in this competition that could win it by its self. You need a well balanced alliance parter to round your alliance in order to do well.

[Synergy1848]

Well this is what we have done so far this year, and we are still going to the NYC event this Saturday.



doesn't it say in the rules that a team can only attend 3 regionals?

[Rick TYler]

Just some talk on the Vexforum. As for who is the best in this competition. There is not a robot in this competition that could win it by its self. You need a well balanced alliance parter to round your alliance.

That's for sure. In Washington I only saw one robot totally dominate one match, and they didn't make into the finals due to an unfortunate incident. In a quarterfinal match, Captain Hook (417) managed to grab one goal, and push the paired goal against the side, trapping the final goal against the side. One of their opponents' robots was trapped sideways between two goals and couldn't move (they weren't pinned, it's just that they weren't strong enough to move the goals out of the way, and they couldn't drive under the bar between the paired goals.) Hook's alliance had also won autonomous. Thirty-eight points scored by 20 seconds into teleoperated, and their partner just spent the rest of the match blocking the open goals from the one robot on the opposing alliance that could move. It wasn't exciting, particularly, but it was awesome.

[Lowfategg]

doesn't it say in the rules that a team can only attend 3 regionals?

Only the first 3 count for awards (like Inspire or Think). A team can attend as many regionals as they like and win. If they win they still receive the winning alliance award.

[astephen68]

It is very true that you need an good alliance partner because one team if defended can be beat but if you have 2 robots that are even and both can score on 24" then you have a better chance at winning. It does not mean though that one team can't just dominate by scoring all the points for the alliance but it means you need a back up plan just in case :)

[astephen68]

I have uestion, have the first tech challenge divisions been anounced and where are the fields for the first tech challenge championship on the map. All i see are the frc and fll places.

[Athleticgirl389]

Team Overdrive #74 will be attending.

So far we have done the following

Team Overdrive 74 - FTC 2007/2008:

Winners of Ohio FTC Championship and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance Captain)

Winners of Diamond State FTC Competition and Inspire Award (First Place Alliance)

Winners of New Jersey FTC Competition and Think Award (First Place Alliance Captain)


I had the privledge of seeing this team in action at the Diamond State FTC Competition and the New Jersey FTC Competition. They are outstanding in all aspects... from their efficently built machine to the team orgaization and cheering to community stuff.

Hopefully I can find time during the weekend to stop by the FTC section in Atlanta and see those cute lil vex robots :p Good luck to all FTC teams!!!

[Luke]

The field is Da Vinci with 2 division (Edison and Franklin) and is located between Newton and Archimedes

[Andrew Bates]

Anyone else worried that they may have placed the fields too close together? Presumably there will be matches going on at the same time right? With the fields this close together I'm worried that people in the audience will get confused between announcers and fields. Also there is the crystal problem... I was expecting them to keep the fields far apart to minimize interference.

OR are they still only going to run one match at a time, just with four fields...

[astephen68]

The field is Da Vinci with 2 division (Edison and Franklin) and is located between Newton and Archimedes

On the map the da vinci is where the fll championship is going on right , unless ftc is there too?

[astephen68]

Anyone else worried that they may have placed the fields too close together? Presumably there will be matches going on at the same time right? With the fields this close together I'm worried that people in the audience will get confused between announcers and fields. Also there is the crystal problem... I was expecting them to keep the fields far apart to minimize interference.

OR are they still only going to run one match at a time, just with four fields...

They will most likely be running 4 matches at a time and the fields will be far enough away from each other so you can see all the fields at once with little interference problems

[TD78]

On the map the da vinci is where the fll championship is going on right , unless ftc is there too?

From past experience, FLL is generally on Einstein.

[astephen68]

Does anybody know though what are the teams who qualified for Atlanta?

[fredliu168]

Anyone else worried that they may have placed the fields too close together? Presumably there will be matches going on at the same time right? With the fields this close together I'm worried that people in the audience will get confused between announcers and fields. Also there is the crystal problem... I was expecting them to keep the fields far apart to minimize interference.

OR are they still only going to run one match at a time, just with four fields...

I suspect they will be running 2 matches simultaneously while queueing for the other two fields. The announcer may be announcing two fields at the same time.... :confused:

One match at a time with 4 fields sounds much too inefficient for me.

[Andrew Bates]

I originally expected 2 matches at a time. However I also was expecting that the fields would be spread out some more...



Woot 100th post on CD!

[The Lucas]

The announcer may be announcing two fields at the same time.... :confused:

I originally expected 2 matches at a time. However I also was expecting that the fields would be spread out some more...

The 2 announcer thing worked surprisingly well in NYC from what I saw. Trust me, you have some quality announcers :D They'll make it work.

Anyone else think they should have named the fields Edison and Tesla? Then they could play AC/DC's Back in Black like a dozen times :cool:

[Andrew Bates]

So was the NYC tournament a primer/practice for the Atlanta Championship.

[Akash Rastogi]

Good luck to team 74 Team Overdrive. I will be cheering for you guys while in the FRC pits.:)

[astephen68]

Wouldn't 4 matches at a time be more efficent and 2 matches while queing sounds right too but it's big enough to do 4 matches, why wouldn't they do that?

[GaryVoshol]

Wouldn't 4 matches at a time be more efficent and 2 matches while queing sounds right too but it's big enough to do 4 matches, why wouldn't they do that?You'd be running 4 matches which takes about 3-4 minutes, followed by at least 3-4 minutes downtime while you're switching between matches. Alternating fields, during the 3-4 minutes that 2 matches are running, the other two fields are doing reset. Same throughput (total number of matches run per hour), but there's some action going on nearly continuously. You're not stuck watching reset.

[ttldomination]

Have they posted the FTC divisions yet???

I'm lookin forward to that.

[astephen68]

You'd be running 4 matches which takes about 3-4 minutes, followed by at least 3-4 minutes downtime while you're switching between matches. Alternating fields, during the 3-4 minutes that 2 matches are running, the other two fields are doing reset. Same throughput (total number of matches run per hour), but there's some action going on nearly continuously. You're not stuck watching reset.

Very true, Ok so 2 fields running at the same side and the fields are located on the map where a vinci is right?

[Andrew Bates]

Correct.

[Barry Bonzack]

Just an FYI to everyone: The FTC Opening Ceremony is scheduled to be from 12:00-12:30 on Thursday... The same time as the Chiefdelphi Webhug.

[Lowfategg]

Ok team list out and what division you will be in.

Division Team Number Team Name

Franklin 1 Team Unlimited
Franklin 3 Mr. Roboto & SuperPals
Franklin 6 Driven Nuts
Franklin 8 Exploding Bacon
Franklin 13 ACME-Sand Blasters
Franklin 22 100 Scholars
Franklin 25 Rock-n-Roll Robots
Franklin 31 E.M.P.
Franklin 37 19 Below
Franklin 39 Zip Ties
Franklin 63 The Rebels
Franklin 67 EAST Bots
Franklin 92 Junior Bomb Squad
Franklin 118 Steel Hornets
Franklin 125 Northgate Robotics
Franklin 154 Renegade
Franklin 175 Checkmate
Franklin 177 Twisted Bots
Franklin 183 Metal Jackets
Franklin 197 Rams
Franklin 201 Brophy College Prep
Franklin 270 Apollo
Franklin 339 1114 Simbotics
Franklin 350 CybotronX
Franklin 356 Gigabots
Franklin 414 Bluffton Bolts
Franklin 420 Duckt Tape
Franklin 450 Children of the Swamp
Franklin 474 Team NOS
Franklin 477 Team Newbies
Franklin 482 Devilbots
Franklin 506 Pandara
Franklin 519 Epsilon Delta
Franklin 542 WHS Robotics
Franklin 567 Cheesy Poofs
Franklin 597 Papa Smurf
Franklin 603 S.W.A.T.
Franklin 613 MiniStang
Franklin 628 Robotroopers
Franklin 662 Brooklyn Mustangs
Franklin 679 RoboRaiders
Franklin 721 Gladstone
Franklin 733 Grady Gearbox Gangstaz
Franklin 747 Singapore SMART
Franklin 754 Autonomous Anonymous
Franklin 760 Rocky Mountain Tics
Franklin 767 Riptide Rush
Franklin 783 Riveted Steel
Franklin 800 Plenus
Franklin 802 Sweetch Yaocalli

Edison 2 Psychotic Strawberryz
Edison 4 Driven Bolts
Edison 7 TechBrick
Edison 12 ACME-Weather Makers
Edison 14 Vexy Things
Edison 23 Northrop Grumman Space Technology
Edison 30 Mr. T
Edison 32 Einstein's Daughter
Edison 38 Vexellent
Edison 52 Sahuarita High School
Edison 64 Occam's Engineers
Edison 74 Team Overdrive
Edison 110 MFS Foxes
Edison 120 Angelbots
Edison 136 Berkner Robotics
Edison 159 the Holy Rollers
Edison 176 Pigmice Vexed
Edison 179 Team Robot Rebels
Edison 189 Blizzard B
Edison 199 The Crushinators
Edison 211 RoboDogs
Edison 306 Lords of the Rings
Edison 349 NNSRI
Edison 355 Robo Gophers
Edison 368 Faberians
Edison 418 Exothermic Robotics 2
Edison 434 Uh-Oh's
Edison 466 Mustang II
Edison 475 Team Infinity
Edison 478 Mustang Robotics
Edison 500 Spontaneous Combustion
Edison 508 PiraTech Robotics
Edison 529 CocoNuts
Edison 548 Geek Squad
Edison 589 Hammered Steel
Edison 600 SHIRT
Edison 604 pwnage
Edison 614 Met Liberty
Edison 655 Rhode Rage
Edison 676 GSMST Beta
Edison 710 3 Brothers & Wesly
Edison 722 Vexagon Gladstone
Edison 738 Green Egg Robotics
Edison 752 BA Robot
Edison 757 Suburban Legends
Edison 761 Piecebots A
Edison 782 Stainless Steel
Edison 791 BRHS Warriors
Edison 801 Panteras UP
Edison 85 Eagle Engineering

[ttldomination]

Where'd u get this?

If i were to go on the FIRST site somewhere???

And i don't see Simbiotics on there...does anyone know what team number they are?

[Rick TYler]

There we are: Exothermic Robotics 2, right there on Einstein. I'll be darned... :]

[astephen68]

Where'd u get this?

If i were to go on the FIRST site somewhere???

And i don't see Simbiotics on there...does anyone know what team number they are?

339 is simbotics and this is sent to the team mentors to find out all the information. It is no where on the site

[Lowfategg]

Where'd u get this?

If i were to go on the FIRST site somewhere???

And i don't see Simbiotics on there...does anyone know what team number they are?

Its from an e-mail sent out by FIRST today.

Simbotics is on there, Team number 339 Name 1114 Simbotics

[astephen68]

The divisions are good, tough teams in each divison.

[astephen68]

whos ready for the championship :D

[KathieK]

If you'd like to use the userbars below -Edison can be found at: http://www.firstnemo.org/images/Edison_userbar.jpg and Franklin at: http://www.firstnemo.org/images/Franklin_userbar.jpg

Feel free to download them and use them but don't just link to them - not sure our NEMO server can handle it!

[astephen68]

5 days until the championship, who's pumped

[ttldomination]

I'm pumped. GSMST has a great robot, I think, and overdrive has further enhanced their crazy good robot...just when you thought they couldn't get any better....

Edison will take it...i'm willing to bet on it.

[astephen68]

but you always can't forget the defending world champions 1114 or (339 this year in ftc)in the other divison franklin. I have a feeling they might take it all again!

[ttldomination]

This years game is really different. In the Georgia Tournament, everyone thought Mr. Roboto was gonna win it, and then they went and got teamed up with Soup which was even stronger, but then they lost. There is no gaurantee...ever.

[astephen68]

This years game is really different. In the Georgia Tournament, everyone thought Mr. Roboto was gonna win it, and then they went and got teamed up with Soup which was even stronger, but then they lost. There is no gaurantee...ever.

I am not saying that it`s a sure win for 1114, i am saying that everybody still needs to watch out for them. I think that they are most likely going to make it to the the CHampionship finals. Everybody needs to be aware that 1114 has a strong robot and they are a good team

[Andrew Bates]

Out of all the ring dumpers that are on the end of arms there's seems to be the best. I haven't seen it in person though.

[astephen68]

Out of all the ring dumpers that are on the end of arms there's seems to be the best. I haven't seen it in person though.

Everybody was surprised at Ontario when we saw their nice grabing mechanism come out right from underneath their robot. It is a nice design and looks like a real claw. It was weird.

[ttldomination]

Of course, i'm not saying that they're not dangerous, they're an effective team, but there's really no gaurantee that they'll win.

[astephen68]

Of course, i'm not saying that they're not dangerous, they're an effective team, but there's really no gaurantee that they'll win.

You can't underestimate them either, they are world champs for a reason....

[Abra Cadabra IV]

Well, with one hundred teams there, anything can happen.

I'm looking forward to seeing all the diverse strategies teams will have. Hopefully most of the teams won't be mass scoreres on the high posts, because that would just be boring.

(Oh, and I'm from team 25, Rock-n-Roll Robots.)

[ttldomination]

Of course, I was really impressed when i saw Mr. Roboto's autonomous for the first time. Truly amazing.

Now that Overdrive has expanded to the 24" posts, it's really hard to say that they're not gonna win.

Which is why i think that is if overdrive were to team up with GSMST Beta, a perfect match, then I think they could go all the way.

[astephen68]

Of course, I was really impressed when i saw Mr. Roboto's autonomous for the first time. Truly amazing.

Now that Overdrive has expanded to the 24" posts, it's really hard to say that they're not gonna win.

Which is why i think that is if overdrive were to team up with GSMST Beta, a perfect match, then I think they could go all the way.

I could see the winning alliance being 339,3 and 1

[ttldomination]

True, but i don't see those three teams being on the same alliance. The possibility that even one of those teams is left for the third pick is very unlikely.

[astephen68]

True, but i don't see those three teams being on the same alliance. The possibility that even one of those teams is left for the third pick is very unlikely.

Yes but you can see 2 of those teams most likely, 339 and 3. if 339 is first then they could pick 3. Strong Alliance right there not including the third pick

[fredliu168]

My predictions:
Franklin: 13 (sandcrawler), 3 (mr. roboto), 175 (checkmate)
Edison: 74 (overdrive), 478 (mustang), 64 (occam's engineers)

Yes I know I'm picking my own team, but we're definitely not bad.

[astephen68]

My predictions:
Franklin: 13 (sandcrawler), 3 (mr. roboto), 175 (checkmate)
Edison: 74 (overdrive), 478 (mustang), 64 (occam's engineers)

Yes I know I'm picking my own team, but we're definitely not bad.

I got to disagree with your top one 339,3,175. I think 339 will be #1 after qualifying pick 3 and then 175.

[ttldomination]

Hmm...ur selection is definitely good...i think that instead of Mustang GSMST Beta will be in there.

[Zuhaib Ali]

My predictions:
Franklin: 13 (sandcrawler), 3 (mr. roboto), 175 (checkmate)
Edison: 74 (overdrive), 478 (mustang), 64 (occam's engineers)

Yes I know I'm picking my own team, but we're definitely not bad.

I have to disagree with your choice of Edison because your forgetting that FTC 189 outperformed 478 at the Ontario Championship. I'm assuming your pairing these teams by their recent performances? Also, you may not have seen the rest of the 47 teams. You never know if teams have added/ adopted new features from other robots which might improve their performance durastically. :rolleyes:

[astephen68]

I have to disagree with your choice of Edison because your forgetting that FTC 189 outperformed 478 at the Ontario Championship. I'm assuming your pairing these teams by their recent performances? Also, you may not have seen the rest of the 47 teams. You never know if teams have added/ adopted new features from other robots which might improve their performance durastically. :rolleyes:

189 was with 339 (1114) and they were a good alliance.
don't get me wrong 189 is a fantastic robot

[fredliu168]

I have to disagree with your choice of Edison because your forgetting that FTC 189 outperformed 478 at the Ontario Championship. I'm assuming your pairing these teams by their recent performances? Also, you may not have seen the rest of the 47 teams. You never know if teams have added/ adopted new features from other robots which might improve their performance durastically. :rolleyes:

I definitely didn't say 189 was worse than 478. We have definite respect for you guys and your robot. I certainly didn't pick in terms of how good the robots were, but rather by strategy.

It is a general concensus (spelling mistake?) that the winning alliance will consistant of a combination of at least one ramp robot and at least one stack robot. The reason I picked 74 over you guys is because they've won 4 regionals and are one of the favourites going into this competition.

[astephen68]

I am not saying that we are defently going to make it there but i am saying that it's a possiblity

[Zuhaib Ali]

Just so there is no mis-understanding, i am not a member of FTC 189.

Edit: Everything is a possibility

[fredliu168]

Irregardless, 189 is definitely on the top of our scouting sheet going into Atlanta. Also, I'm going to assume 189 drastically changed their robot because of your comment =P

[astephen68]

Irregardless, 189 is definitely on the top of our scouting sheet going into Atlanta. Also, I'm going to assume 189 drastically changed their robot because of your comment =P

I can't wait for Atlanta to see whos right about alliances and who takes it all

[Zuhaib Ali]

Irregardless, 189 is definitely on the top of our scouting sheet going into Atlanta. Also, I'm going to assume 189 drastically changed their robot because of your comment =P

Don't take my word for it. I was reffering to another robot. One in which you maybe familiar with. ;)

[fredliu168]

In the case of 339, they are in a different division than us and 189, so it won't be an issue until finals.

I think 339 was who you were referring to?

[Lowfategg]

Have we forgot about 211 robodogs? They were a great partner in NYC and from what I hear just about as good as simbotics.

[fredliu168]

Have we forgot about 211 robodogs? They were a great partner in NYC and from what I hear just about as good as simbotics.

I personally didn't think they were at the same level as 339 or 3 based on the videos you posted of them at PA. Then again, I definitely could be wrong, I've never seen them up close.

[Zuhaib Ali]

In the case of 339, they are in a different division than us and 189, so it won't be an issue until finals.

I think 339 was who you were referring to?

No, not at all. Your're missing my point. You will just have to wait and see. :D

[Andrew Bates]

We will see what happens in Atlanta. Everything will be different from the regionals.

[astephen68]

Have we forgot about 211 robodogs? They were a great partner in NYC and from what I hear just about as good as simbotics.

I heard that 211 was good but not as good as 339

[Mr. Lim]

The difficulty with FTC is that generally there is so little information available to do decent scouting. Or scouting comparable to the level you'd expect from FRC.

If you asked me who the "best" FTC teams are right now, I'd honestly have no clue. I'd also be half expecting to find a dozen or so EXCELLENT robots that I've never heard of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1S7X0rSogI).

It's a fine balance with FTC. With the history of "comandeered" designs, many good teams are reluctant to post videos of their robots. But there's a point in time where this works against you; you might have a great robot that no one knows about, and slips through the cracks come eliminations.

You might've even won a tournament, and scored some of the highest scoring matches in all of FTC... and people still would have no idea who you are. FTC is a strange beast sometimes.

The information just isn't out there for FTC, but eventually, you either a) get the word out about your robot, or b) hope that the good teams down there scout you and understand what you bring to the table.

Hopefully, you do some of both.

P.S. I'm not a member of 189 either. I have no idea what new tricks they have up their sleeve, but we'll find out soon enough.

[fredliu168]

Oh no, a mysterious modification to a mysterious robot! Can't wait =)

[astephen68]

We will see what happens in Atlanta. Everything will be different from the regionals.

True because in ftc there is no shipping the robot to atlanta and you can't work on it, you can copy anybody's design thats why 339 covers theirs.

[astephen68]

The difficulty with FTC is that generally there is so little information available to do decent scouting. Or scouting comparable to the level you'd expect from FRC.

If you asked me who the "best" FTC teams are right now, I'd honestly have no clue. I'd also be half expecting to find a dozen or so EXCELLENT robots that I've never heard of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1S7X0rSogI).

It's a fine balance with FTC. With the history of "comandeered" designs, many good teams are reluctant to post videos of their robots. But there's a point in time where this works against you; you might have a great robot that no one knows about, and slips through the cracks come eliminations.

You might've even won a tournament, and scored some of the highest scoring matches in all of FTC... and people still would have no idea who you are. FTC is a strange beast sometimes.

The information just isn't out there for FTC, but eventually, you either a) get the word out about your robot, or b) hope that the good teams down there scout you and understand what you bring to the table.

Hopefully, you do some of both.

P.S. I'm not a member of 189 either. I have no idea what new tricks they have up their sleeve, but we'll find out soon enough.

Alot of the teams don't look to see if they win the regional but where the team places in the standing snad their rp

[fredliu168]

Edi Edi Edi

[astephen68]

SON,SON,SON

[Andrew Bates]

EDISON
EDISON
EDISON

[Diriye]

Wow, Edison is talking a lot of smack out here. We'd better come and bring it this Thursday/Friday. :P

[ttldomination]

I agree...EDISON>>>

And that is something which I hope will change with the new kits. The robots should be shipped mainly for the copying and steeling of ideas. Teams that have been working hard to come up with their own ideas, get beaten by a robot who just ripped them off..It's not fair...it's no innovative..it's not FIRST.

[astephen68]

Wow, Edison is talking a lot of smack out here. We'd better come and bring it this Thursday/Friday. :P

Were supporting the divison thats going to win in Atlanta, Duh it's going to be Edison :D:D:D:D

[astephen68]

I agree...EDISON>>>

And that is something which I hope will change with the new kits. The robots should be shipped mainly for the copying and steeling of ideas. Teams that have been working hard to come up with their own ideas, get beaten by a robot who just ripped them off..It's not fair...it's no innovative..it's not FIRST.

Yes it's true it's stealing ideas and i do not like it but if they beat you with that same idea doesn't that prove the team has the skill to develop the idea and build it?

[Andrew Bates]

Lets keep this thread about Atlanta.

[bellpride]

I'd be willing to make a bet that there are a few beastly teams which copied 339's strategy in not mentioning themselves online. And nobody will know of them because they are either rookies or unknown in previous years.

I only have scouting data on about 30% of teams (pictures and data) and have heard the results of about 20% more, which leaves me wondering what the other half will bring to the field.

On the other hand, if a team is consistently good, it is often well-known.

[doukjin]

I agree...EDISON>>>

And that is something which I hope will change with the new kits. The robots should be shipped mainly for the copying and steeling of ideas. Teams that have been working hard to come up with their own ideas, get beaten by a robot who just ripped them off..It's not fair...it's no innovative..it's not FIRST.

this is actually something our team strived to maintain even while we knew that the other design was far more efficient than ours. even then, we proceeded to the semifinals of the Georgia regional and the Quarterfinals of the NC regional... because we kept our robot's design all in all the same, we felt a lot more proud of our robot than i think we would have if we had copied some other team's idea

unfortunately we wont be attending the Championships, but our team wishes the best of luck to all teams who are -

oh, and one more thing - GO EDISON!

[gizzlyMIKE000]

well ya im pritty sure no one has ever heard of 434 but we went 11-0 in the san jose reginal and have a high score of 86. it just goes to show ya the some of the rookies can have a shot at this and also its always good going in a competition when no one knows you and you can shock the crowd. and even if someone saw our robot we completely changed it and we are ready for altanta so everyone try your best and good luck:]

[astephen68]

well ya im pritty sure no one has ever heard of 434 but we went 11-0 in the san jose reginal and have a high score of 86. it just goes to show ya the some of the rookies can have a shot at this and also its always good going in a competition when no one knows you and you can shock the crowd. and even if someone saw our robot we completely changed it and we are ready for altanta so everyone try your best and good luck:]

Good luck to all teams and congrats now for just making it to Atlanta

[bellpride]

well ya im pritty sure no one has ever heard of 434 but we went 11-0 in the san jose reginal and have a high score of 86. it just goes to show ya the some of the rookies can have a shot at this and also its always good going in a competition when no one knows you and you can shock the crowd.
Nobody's heard of us NorCal vex folks. We won with them as well (and helped in the high score!).
and even if someone saw our robot we completely changed it and we are ready for altanta so everyone try your best and good luck:]
Since the scrimmage?

[astephen68]

Nobody's heard of us NorCal vex folks. We won with them as well (and helped in the high score!).

Since the scrimmage?

Your high score is nice but high scores do not show how good a team is. I am not saying you guys arn't good but WHat the robot does and works is how a team is good or not

[ttldomination]

Ok, well the moment of truth is coming ever faster and teams are all great. If teams got by on luck, i'm sure that they have changed their design to match the intensity of other bots.

Yes, team 736, Robolions, also had to face the decision to keep our bot or go with a copy we found on the internet....we went with out bot...we did lose...but hey...i'm happy about how we performed.

[Buckles121]

Keep in mind, 655. We came in second at the CT. Regional and won the RI Regional. =)

[Synergy1848]

Ok, well the moment of truth is coming ever faster and teams are all great. If teams got by on luck, i'm sure that they have changed their design to match the intensity of other bots.

Yes, team 736, Robolions, also had to face the decision to keep our bot or go with a copy we found on the internet....we went with out bot...we did lose...but hey...i'm happy about how we performed.

and your bot was really good, I was going to pick you guys second but you got picked first.

[gizzlyMIKE000]

Nobody's heard of us NorCal vex folks. We won with them as well (and helped in the high score!).

Since the scrimmage?

no not since the scrimmage it is the same but look a lot different since the scrimmage. bc we redid the sides of the robot. but only teams that have seen us in san jose know how do our bot was.

and it is so true no one know about us nor cal bots.

[Abra Cadabra IV]

Yeah, high scores definitely aren't everything. The matches my team plays in tend to be low-scoring for both alliances, but that's because we have a really awesome defensive robot which shuts down a lot of high scorers but can't handle rings at all.

(The California teams in general aren't getting much recognition here. And there's a decent amount of good teams going - Beach Cities, anyone?)

[bellpride]

The matches my team plays in tend to be low-scoring for both alliances, but that's because we have a really awesome defensive robot which shuts down a lot of high scorers but can't handle rings at all.
Quite true, you guys were awesome at Vegas. (We were the biggish bot with the long arm.) Hopefully the Californian teams can make an impression at nationals this year. :)

[fredliu168]

EMP and Enstein's daughter did a wonderful job representing California teams last year. This year, with more teams from California going, perhaps more teams will stand out.

[gizzlyMIKE000]

Quite true, you guys were awesome at Vegas. (We were the biggish bot with the long arm.) Hopefully the Californian teams can make an impression at nationals this year. :)

i do hope that we leave a big impact on atlanta this year.:] :D :]
ill see everyone there and good luck.
and also i know its not all about high scores i was just saying that we have a good robot that has some potential

[astephen68]

Finally In Atlanta, After a broke caliber on the brakes and being delayed for 6 hours we finally made to Atlanta and We are pumped for setting up the field for ftc tommarow

[Zuhaib Ali]

What an exciting day! with a new highscore of 111. Congradulations to both teams, especially 211 since you guys are canadian :p And im proud to say that 211 was part of our alliance at the Ontario championship ! :D

[astephen68]

I just want to say that even with the delay on the other division today's fields were ran well and that it was an amazing day can't wait till eliminations tommarow

[Zuhaib Ali]

Any idea where i can find the rankings and match list? I'd appreciate it, if someone posted it.

[astephen68]

Any idea where i can find the rankings and match list? I'd appreciate it, if someone posted it.

They do not post the match list or standings for FTC.

[yongkimleng]

Hmm, now where can I find all the results for FTC teams and awards? :confused:

[astephen68]

Hmm, now where can I find all the results for FTC teams and awards? :confused:

The winnerf the World Championships in Atlanta is from Edison; It is team 12,14 and 74 i think

[Bongle]

And 801 (Mexico) took home the Inspire award.

[yongkimleng]

Congrats! I kinda fell asleep and missed the award ceremony on webcast. Anyone can list out all the awardees?

[Lowfategg]

The winnerf the World Championships in Atlanta is from Edison; It is team 12,14 and 74 i think

No the winning teams were 30, 74, and 23. The finalist were teams 3, 13, and 25. From team 74 we give our thanks to all teams that competed and to our alliance partners. I hope some one post video of the final matches I had to much fun driving :) .

Also, the high score of the Championships was 121 by team 74, and 30 (I am also very happy with that!).

[ttldomination]

well..at least i was right about 74 and team 3. Both had amazing robots...Simbotics had an amazing robot but it just wasn't their year...

And yes, i would like to see the finals...if anyone could post a link to those videos..that would be great...

Also, did the match go into 3 games?

[Lowfategg]

well..at least i was right about 74 and team 3. Both had amazing robots...Simbotics had an amazing robot but it just wasn't their year...

And yes, i would like to see the finals...if anyone could post a link to those videos..that would be great...

Also, did the match go into 3 games?

It only went for two.

[fredliu168]

The last match was without a doubt the best FTC match I've seen this entire season. 74 started out by picking up their opponents rings and dumping them in their basket, preventing 13 from picking them up. By 1:15, the field was nearly bare of rings.

[Lowfategg]

I liked the battle we had against team 3 with keeping the goals and moving goals so their stacker bot missed the rings it was trying to score.

[ttldomination]

Anyone got any footage?

[fredliu168]

I am also requesting footage of the elimination matches for FTC. If anyone has them I will gladly pay for shipping and even a small fee if they are complete.

[yongkimleng]

I've hosting space too if anyone wants to put it online. :o

[doukjin]

i have a bunch of pictures that i can put online... if i can find a place to upload them
i took 500 pictures from just the friday of the VEX event, so yeah.... lots of pictures there

[Abra Cadabra IV]

23, 30, and 74 definitely deserved the win! We already knew how awesome 23 was after they beat us at San Diego, and even when we kept 30 from scoring they still managed to win on goals. Congratulations to the winning alliance from team 25! We'll see you next year!

(To the Einstein's Daughters, if they read this- enjoy your trophy. :p)

[astephen68]

COngrats to team 74,30 and 23 in a fantastic win for the Edison DIvison :D

[Lowfategg]

Here is some video of one of the matches with 30, 74 (I think final on Edison or the match we pulled a 121 pointer, I really don't know. By the way this is the first video of Overdrive uploaded this whole season).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EHRby2G3Q0

And here is one of the final matches but I am guessing the user that posted this video will upload the second match in a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV7uU0t1ikU

[Drwurm]

Heh, the FTC championship was a nice compliment to not getting picked in Curie. Beach Cities had a blast. See you all next year???

[Rick TYler]

Heh, the FTC championship was a nice compliment to not getting picked in Curie. Beach Cities had a blast. See you all next year???

Probably. Who cares about those ungainly big robots? They look kind of grotesque now. Midirobots rule.

[Lowfategg]

See you all next year???

Hopefully. :)

[akeisic]

Here is some video of one of the matches with 30, 74 (I think final on Edison or the match we pulled a 121 pointer, I really don't know.

The first Edison quarter final was with 30 & 74 where we combined for a score of 121. The second quarter final was with 30 & 23, where we scored a total of 119. I believe those were the two highest scoring matches in the tournament!

The first final between the two divisions was really exciting for us. We got to show off the full capability of our bot when it really counted! I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the second single goal open up in the last 15 seconds. Team 25 had it locked up for the majority of the match! When I got onto the field to check the position, I found it was only in our zone by 0.5"!

Special thanks to 25, 30, and 74. You guys rocked!

Andrew
FTC Team 23 Coach

[Abra Cadabra IV]

Heh, you guys did a great job of getting that last goal. Unfortunately, we had to let it go while we tried to prevent 30 from scoring- if they'd gotten those rings on it wouldn't have mattered whether you guys got the goal or not. Eh, you win some, you lose some.

It was always funny when both alliances were trying to score on the post at the same time and we'd be frantically trying to move one end while keeping the other as still as possible. Thank goodness Mr. Roboto had that hook. :D

[akeisic]

I was really happy to see southern California teams in the finals! It seemed our paths always crossed at the finals though. I remember thinking, "these gals can play some serious defense; we have our work cut out for us." Perhaps next year we can pair up like we did in LA!

[Abra Cadabra IV]

I was really happy to see southern California teams in the finals! It seemed our paths always crossed at the finals though. I remember thinking, "these gals can play some serious defense; we have our work cut out for us." Perhaps next year we can pair up like we did in LA!

When we found out we were going against you guys in the final match, we thought "Oh no! These guys can play some really good offense, and they know exactly how our bot works! They already know how to beat us!" Needless to say, the last match we played in was one of our toughtest ever.

I can't wait 'til I get a copy of the photo we took with you guys. It was hilarious and awesome all at once. :cool:

[Lowfategg]

Photos up at our website.

http://teen-technology.org/atlanta0708.aspx

Ok I patched together this final match video, its was taken with one camera which got auto mode and a little of user control when the battery died and then smartly our camera man used a digital camera to record the rest.

http://teen-technology.org/Documents/Final.wmv