2008 Final Championship Divisions

[Nawaid Ladak]

https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&menu=false&event=CMP

[Travis Hoffman]

FIRST told me they weren't certain an "official" communication would be forthcoming from them once they released the divisional information, so this may as well be the clearinghouse area as the "final" information is released.

It appears they have started the divisional assignment process per the overall list:

Overall List:
By Team Number: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP&sort=teamnum
By Division: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP&sort=division

Championship Event Info: http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/content.aspx?id=432


Sorting order appears to be Archimedes, Curie, Newton, Galileo - repeat....

Disclaimer - It APPEARS these are valid, but wait until the official Divisional Team Lists appear on the Championship Event Info page at the link above to be 100% certain.

[Triple B]

they are now
mike d

[Guy Davidson]

We're in Galileo. Wow, it's strong. Although neither of the rest look particularly shallow at a first glance either.

[Graham Donaldson]

Awesome! I have to look at that, and see who we'll be playing with/against.

[Qbranch]

Does anyone know where all the division userbars are?

-q

[Elgin Clock]

OMG!!!

25, 40, 103, & 121 all in the same division! :ahh:

That will be one to watch for sure!
That division will either end strong, or cause a huge power struggle & go bezerk!

[Kingofl337]

Don't forget 1114

https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP&sort=division

[Nawaid Ladak]

Galileo is STACKED

1114, 330, 217, 103, 254, 40, 25...

and a great defensive bot, team 8

[Dan Petrovic]

Wow Galileo is stacked.

25, 40, 103, 121, 148, 217, 254, 330, 469, 1114, 1717.

1114 and 217, anyone?

Edit: However... if past years has taught us anything, it's that the least likely division to yield the champions will do just that.

[Dave Scheck]

In Excel format for those who want it

[Graham Donaldson]

And we're in Galileo- good or bad?

[Guy Davidson]

And we're in Galileo- good or bad?

Good, I hope. We're also in Galileo. This is gonna be one fun ride.

[jgannon]

Archimedes: 987/1024 over 71/365
Curie: 16/67 over 33/118
Galileo: 25/103 over 217/1114 (or 254/330?)
Newton: 233/968 over 111/175

Whoever wins Galileo wins it all. Somebody else joins Beatty in the multiple win club.

You heard it here first. ;)

[Starke]

Wow! Here are all the Rochester, NY teams in Curie:

- 191
- 340
- 1126
- 1511

[GaryVoshol]

OMG!!!

25, 40, 103, & 121 all in the same division! :ahh:

That will be one to watch for sure!
That division will either end strong, or cause a huge power struggle & go bezerk!

Along with 217 and 1114!

And 330!

[JaneYoung]

In Excel format for those who want it

Thank you Dave.

[Travis Hoffman]

And we're in Galileo- good or bad?

Good - much better chance of great partners during qualifying (if the algorithm does its job) and guaranteed great alliances in elims.

I personally can't wait - Galileo should be an awesome time! :)

[Corey Balint]

There is absolutely no way to make any prediction right now. Galileo will be fun to watch. Every few matches will showcase an exciting team. Its a little more doubtful for 1114 now. There are so many combinations that could be unstoppable. I'm not saying Galileo will win though. Each other division also has a few good teams, that, if they got together could just as easily dominate.

Seed 6-8 in Galileo if you're a good team and man, your 2nd round choice is going to be fantastic. I think 148 is crying out with joy, because they are the perfect 2nd round bot. In such a stacked division, they will be a 2nd round pick, rather than in a weak division, a 1st rounder.

[waialua359]

Archimedes: 987/1024 over 71/365
Curie: 16/67 over 33/118
Galileo: 25/103 over 217/1114 (or 254/330?)
Newton: 233/968 over 111/175

Whoever wins Galileo wins it all. Somebody else joins Beatty in the multiple win club.

You heard it here first. ;)

You forgot to add a third partner in Newton.......233/968/359.
We actually were all together in a match for an epic 138 score!
As the Hawaiians would say.....Hana Hou! (One more time!):yikes:

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Galileo def. looks like the strongest division.
O.o

[IbleedPink233]

That was pretty sweet. . .
Seems that people are forgetting that 2056 is in Newton, as well. They have been a dominating team this year, as well.

[cziggy343]

so... this is final?

[Travis Hoffman]

so... this is final?

Read the disclaimer in the initial post on this thread.

This info is coming from the official FIRST team list, but until they post the team lists for each division to the "Championship Event Info" page, you can't consider it to be truly official.

Knowing everyone's penchant to refresh the team list every five minutes around this time of year, it would be extreme folly for FIRST to populate the division column of the team list and let the entire world view it if they weren't 100% certain that information was final and valid.

[Josh Goodman]

Rochester is gonna ROCK Curie!!!

[Davey H]

Archimedes: 987/1024 over 71/365
Curie: 16/67 over 33/118
Galileo: 25/103 over 217/1114 (or 254/330?)
Newton: 233/968 over 111/175

Whoever wins Galileo wins it all. Somebody else joins Beatty in the multiple win club.

You heard it here first. ;)

Careful now, wasn't Curie stacked last year with have 16, 34, 48, 67, 118, 330, 469, 910, and 1114
and didn't Newton end up winning the whole thing?

[Dan Richardson]

and newton was stacked the year before, and archimedes ended up taking it home. Its hard to pick against stacked divisions, but many times what happens is the super teams get broken up because of a 1st seeder thats not quite up to par with the rest. Decent team, with some decent luck = super alliance breaker uppers. But there may just be too many good teams to see this happen.

[MDiff]

Archimedes watchers should also look out for RUSH (27)

As for Curie last year...
interesting things happened.

[Nawaid Ladak]

i think gali will have the best matches, but in the end, newton will win it.... as much as i hate to say that, all the key stats that i look at say that.... look in the OPR thread for more info

[Akash Rastogi]

Wow, for my first year going to Championships, this is looking to turn into an awesome time thanks to all of these amazing teams. Can't wait to see you all. Good luck everyone:]

[hillale]

i think gali will have the best matches, but in the end, newton will win it.... as much as i hate to say that, all the key stats that i look at say that.... look in the OPR thread for more info

God, I hope you're right. I'm just glad that with how stacked Galileo is that only 2 of the powerhouses will make it out alive to continue on to Einstein, evening the field a little. (unless one of them somehow makes it around to a 2nd round pick). There are going to be uber-strong alliances coming out of every division. Now it's time to go crazy waiting for the match list!!!! Only 6 more days until I get to head down!!!!!

[George A.]

Ok we got some going earlier...but here's the question

Which 3 team alliance would you like to see represent your division on Einstein?

A couple guidelines:

1) Of course we'd like to see our own team up there, but leave that to other people to decide. Vote for someone else, spread the love :p

2) Make them "Realistic". What I mean, we all know that 365, 1124, and 1024 aren't going to be on an alliance together (no offense to these teams...but there's no way that one of those three will be around for the second round).

Any thoughts?

[Guy Davidson]

A 987/1124/66 alliance would be very, very scary. 365/1024, 27/71, and 365/525 would also be very strong combos.

EDIT: Above is for Archi. For Galileo, wow. This is almost impossible. As well as I'd think we'd complement most alliances as a third member, I'll refrain for now. Any combination of two of 1114/330/217/254/103/25/469/1717/195 scares me. And to think, it's likely we'll see 4 of those in the eliminations :O And, I haven't mentioned 121, 494, 70, 40, 1629, 343, 1540, ... Wow. What a division. If 148 is still around on the third round, it would make a valuable 3rd alliance member. 980 also showed they know what they're doing as a complement to two hurdlers, as did 84.

[Akash Rastogi]

Don't want to be cocky and put up our own team George, but I honestly think a 1024/27/11 alliance is a possibility based on the consistency of our performance there.

Again, not to be cocky or anything.

+$0.02

edit: I would also love to be allianced with 71 just so I could say that we were once alliance with the Beast. 555 and 816 are also both up there for 2nd round of selections. And I would obviously love to be part of an Exploding Bacon alliance :D

[seraphim33]

111,233,2056.........newton

[fredliu168]

I know this is a pretty common prediction, but:

1114/217/148

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Posted all of the division event pages:
http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/

[Nawaid Ladak]

111,233,2056.........newton

lets be serious here, who's going to be the second pick

i think were going to see some pink patriots coming out of the newton division...my research sems to say something diffrent though, it's telling me one of these two teams will head an alliance with 1625 and 1806 and they wil narowly win the division

gali teams will be tested and beat up but yet the SimChicken's will emerge victorious. their alliance partner could be one of the following teams, 8, 384, 148, or 84... maybe even more teams, depends on if those teams in the "more" category are worrying less about their robot and more about their drivers.

curie i don't want to sound mean here but this is by far the SOFTEST division of the four. i like 191 advancing though

archie: all i can say is, watch out for the beast. i think they will be a very strong 2nd round steal come selection time.

[Corey Balint]

lets be serious here, who's going to be the second pick

i think were going to see some pink patriots coming out of the newton division...my research sems to say something diffrent though, it's telling me one of these two teams will head an alliance with 1625 and 1806 and they wil narowly win the division

gali teams will be tested and beat up but yet the SimChicken's will emerge victorious. their alliance partner could be one of the following teams, 8, 384, 148, or 84... maybe even more teams, depends on if those teams in the "more" category are worrying less about their robot and more about their drivers.

curie i don't want to sound mean here but this is by far the SOFTEST division of the four. i like 191 advancing though

archie: all i can say is, watch out for the beast. i think they will be a very strong 2nd round steal come selection time.
Curie is the softest, yes. But if two of 16/33/67/118 get together...watch out.
Archi: NO way 71 slips to the second round. They are top 4 in the division, with 27, 1024, and 1124 rounding out the other 4.
Newton: 2056 is good. But not as good as everyone is making them out to be. I've got 7 teams better than them; 968, 233, 1625, 111, 175, 39, 20
Galileo: SimPoofs would be much better than SimChickens in my opinion.

[Guy Davidson]

Archi: NO way 71 slips to the second round. They are top 4 in the division, with 27, 1024, and 1124 rounding out the other 4.
I would add 987 to your top teams. They are around the level of those four teams you mentioned. I also wouldn't sleep on 93, 357, and 365, as they know what they're doing.

Curie is the softest, yes. But if two of 16/33/67/118 get together...watch out.
Yeah, Cure is a bit softer. Seeing as it is not as stacked, I wouldn't be surprised to see finals with all four teams you mentioned, if the seeding order allows it. I'd also watch out for 45, 100, 108, 126, 191, 368, and 395. With relative lack of juggernauts in this division, look out for the above teams to make a difference, especially of the top four teams have trouble getting together for eliminations.

Galileo: SimPoofs would be much better than SimChickens in my opinion.
I'm not sure about that. I am sure, though, that both would be scary. This division is insanely stacked - look for the seeding order to matter less (as each alliance should be able to grab two solid hurdlers) and the scouting (especially for the third partner, but also the second). There are more solid hurdlers in this division than you could shake a stick at: 25, 40, 70, 103, 121, 195, 217, 234. 254, 330, 343, 384, 469, 494, 1114, 1629, 1717, 2065. Obviously these teams are not all equal, but all them can put up hurdlers in a hurry. Look for some scary combinations to be formed in the first round of the alliance selections, and for alliance to flesh out their alliances with a solid third bot, such as 148, 980, 84, 48, or 8.

Newton: 2056 is good. But not as good as everyone is making them out to be. I've got 7 teams better than them; 968, 233, 1625, 111, 175, 39, 20
I am also not as high on 2056 as others are. They are good, no doubt about it. But I want to see t hem compete against the other top contenders Corey mentioned, particularly 233, 968, and 39, before I make any more judgment of their skill. I also wouldn't sleep on 79, 179, and 1574 here. They could all make some noise.

I can't wait for Atlanta.