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Fireworks 234
09-04-2008, 15:02
Looks like we are going to have a good year in Curie!!!
We've got several good teams and I can't wait!!!
With teams like 16, 33, and 67 we are bound to have some great matches!
Good luck to everyone!!!
Elgin Clock
09-04-2008, 15:07
237 is in the house representing CT & 10 years of FIRST!!
Fireworks 234
09-04-2008, 15:14
Here's a basic excel file of all the Curie teams: 6551
MasterChief 573
09-04-2008, 15:14
OH YEAH!!!!
33, 45, 67, 100, 118, 191, 326, 501, 573, 830, 1126, 1477, and many more.
LETS GO CURIE!!!
sloteera
09-04-2008, 15:37
Uooooooooow
#1860 are in...
Let's go Curie... good luck everybody!
Jeremytice
09-04-2008, 15:40
I can't wait till the competition! Team SparX has been at Galileo for the past couple of years and I was ready for a switch to another division. Good luck to all teams!
JaneYoung
09-04-2008, 15:41
I've always wanted to cheer on Curie!
This is going to be a blast!
Team 368 is looking to be spreading a little aloha once again on the Curie Field!
Just one week to go!!
Wow! Here are all the teams from Rochester, NY! :yikes:
- 191
- 340
- 1126
- 1511
Wow! Here are all the teams from Rochester, NY! :yikes:
- 191
- 340
- 1126
- 1511I was just going to say that! And throw in 2053 from Endicott and Western NY is very well represented!
rachakate
09-04-2008, 16:20
Anyone know who the MC and Announce on Curie have been in the past?
1t5h1e1o
09-04-2008, 16:26
Wow! Here are all the teams from Rochester, NY! :yikes:
- 191
- 340
- 1126
- 1511
Thats Awesome!! It would be really be cool to get a match where a whole alliance is from Rochester!!! Good luck everyone, and I can't wait to see you there!!!:D
2trainRobotics is pumped and ready to enter the station! Please stand clear of the closing doors :p.
i_am_samus
09-04-2008, 16:48
Rookie team 2590 will be there. Don't count us out, we made it to the finals in NJ ;)
Good luck all :D
nikeairmancurry
09-04-2008, 16:57
This divison looks really good everyone... But we gotta pull togther if we want to take down that stacked galieo divison..
So 33, 67, and 573 should we make daves prediction right and put a couple GLR teams on Einstien..
But I really like whats gonig to happen here.. :)
Schnabel
09-04-2008, 17:02
I say we start the chant! I'll start it and the person below continues it and so on.
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MasterChief 573
09-04-2008, 17:02
This divison looks really good everyone... But we gotta pull togther if we want to take down that stacked galieo divison..
So 33, 67, and 573 should we make daves prediction right and put a couple GLR teams on Einstien..
But I really like whats gonig to happen here.. :)
sounds good to me, lets bring "the perfect storm", to Curie!
Fireworks 234
09-04-2008, 17:11
-U-
Greg Needel
09-04-2008, 17:12
Anyone know who the MC and Announce on Curie have been in the past?
Typically Mark Leon is the MC on curie.
the Announcers have changed over the past years
Steve Warren
Andy Grady
Myself
Sir Charles
I don't remember who did it last year
rachakate
09-04-2008, 17:18
Thanks Greg. Make sure you say hi next week!
JaneYoung
09-04-2008, 17:53
sounds good to me, lets bring "the perfect storm", to Curie!
Thank you, David, for answering my question regarding the 'perfect storm' via PM. I have read so many comments about this speech and your very brief summary gave me goosebumps as I was reading - thinking of the knowledge and wisdom that must have been captured in those treasured moments for the teams that were present.
There were many speeches given throughout the FIRST world during this competition season. It would be a beautiful tribute to have them gathered in an archive of some type, even though many may have been scribbled on paper or perhaps not even jotted down. Their words are golden and significant to all of us who listen.
Thank you again, David - though I have to say - watch out for some good ole friendly competition coming from the Texas teams. :)
Jane
=Martin=Taylor=
09-04-2008, 18:01
Yay! Curry Division! :D
CUR-IE
CUR-IE
Okay so that really doesn't work. lol
Otta be lots of fun!
Yay I get to scout now! I think this is like the 4th or 5th time 108 has been in Curie.
Wow! Here are all the teams from Rochester, NY! :yikes:
- 191
- 340
- 1126
- 1511
I think I now know which field I'll be watching the most at home :)
MasterChief 573
09-04-2008, 18:33
Thank you again, David - though I have to say - watch out for some good ole friendly competition coming from the Texas teams. :)
Jane
If there's anything that scares as much that Michigan, Canadian, and Californian teams, its TEXAS TEAMS! But seeing as how you know a lot about Texas teams let me say this. Prepare to face a team like 148 but can knock the ball!
bigbeezy
09-04-2008, 20:23
Man I cant wait to see Curie in person!
We have been in a different division each year and finally we are in Curie!!! (Arch-'05, Gal-'06, New-'07 and now Cur-'08!)
Don't count Florida out now.
Just one more week....
ADHDassassin
09-04-2008, 20:37
If there's anything that scares as much that Michigan, Canadian, and Californian teams, its TEXAS TEAMS! But seeing as how you know a lot about Texas teams let me say this. Prepare to face a team like 148 but can knock the ball!
I'll say, my team is from Texas and it is my team's 5th and my 3rd year in FIRST and this is the FIRST year we have won any awards from the Lone Star Regional. Other than that we are really excited about getting to go to nationals and are looking forward to meeting new teams and getting a chance to see some friendly faces such as teams 57 and 16 who both helped us in some very tough regionals.:)
rcoren22
09-04-2008, 20:52
Thank You for posting this listing.
Where was this information posted?
MasterChief 573
09-04-2008, 20:58
I'll say, my team is from Texas and it is my team's 5th and my 3rd year in FIRST and this is the FIRST year we have won any awards from the Lone Star Regional. Other than that we are really excited about getting to go to nationals and are looking forward to meeting new teams and getting a chance to see some friendly faces such as teams 57 and 16 who both helped us in some very tough regionals.:)
I have a feeling that the "Texas Tornado" will collide with "The Perfect Storm" and form an alliance that can give the other division winners a run for their money. ;)
Travis Hoffman
09-04-2008, 21:26
Yay! Curry Division! :D
CUR-IE
CUR-IE
Okay so that really doesn't work. lol
Here, let me help you out.....:)
MA-DAME.........CUR-IE!
alex1699
09-04-2008, 22:03
WOOt.
Lets not count out the crowd favorite of the West Michigan regional 2337 a.k.a. Das Boot
Fireworks 234
09-04-2008, 22:39
Thank You for posting this listing.
Where was this information posted?
I got the information off of the www.usfirst.org (http://www.usfirst.org) website @ https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event=CMP&sort=division
Bcliff358
09-04-2008, 22:44
Team 358 is happy to be in Curie. Does anybody know if our field is on the side closest to the entrance? Curie and its awkward chants. Should be fun.
Schnabel
09-04-2008, 23:45
Ok, so everyone who is in the Curie Division, I have a challenge for all of you. The TechnoKats have started a new tradition this year and we call it a Moses Cheer. The RoboCoach (me or the other driver) before every match will hold his hands high to the sky as everyone cheers, then he will lower them. At this time everyone is to get completely silent. He will then raise and lower them at different heights showing how loud for everyone to cheer. There will also be special hand signals given out so that special things can be cheered. So my challenge to you is to make sure that your entire team in the stands know about this so that everyone will get into it. It is really fun with everybody doing it at the same time.
carla_rose
09-04-2008, 23:50
looking forward to this.....
Dante loves a HOT field....especially with a little GRR in there........uh-oh.....smells like 2004 all over again!!!
rees2001
10-04-2008, 08:12
Dante loves a HOT field....especially with a little GRR in there........uh-oh.....smells like 2004 all over again!!!
Don't jinx it!!!!
JaneYoung
10-04-2008, 08:52
Here, let me help you out.....:)
MA-DAME.........CUR-IE!
Ok Travis, let's try this out:
MA-DAME...
Alex Cormier
10-04-2008, 08:59
CUR-IE
JaneYoung
10-04-2008, 09:14
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oh wait, oh wait!
We have to finish spelling Curie
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nikeairmancurry
10-04-2008, 10:20
I
Hehehehe
Elgin Clock
10-04-2008, 10:29
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Greg Needel
10-04-2008, 10:31
.uh-oh.....smells like 2004 all over again!!!
I knew I smelled something...:yikes:
GaryVoshol
10-04-2008, 11:23
1025 is happy to be competing on Curie this year. The Michigan teams got split up almost equally among the divisions. So while we'll be looking forward to seeing some old acquaintences, we are also looking forward to making new alliances from around the country and world.
IMPI Robotics is a new team formed after the 2007 season. We operate out of Ferndale HS, and have veteran members from inactive teams, as well as rookie members. We also are privileged to be allied with Trophy Robotics of South Africa (RSA) who make up part of our team. Seven of our members are from RSA and have travelled to join us this week, and will be in Atlanta. Stop by our pit to meet us (look for the flaming tiki torches) or visit our scouts in the stands (royal blue shirts).
jagman2882
10-04-2008, 11:59
I knew I smelled something...:yikes:
that was just dante he sometimes forgets about personal hygine......im just kidding big d!!!!!
Ok, so everyone who is in the Curie Division, I have a challenge for all of you. The TechnoKats have started a new tradition this year and we call it a Moses Cheer. The RoboCoach (me or the other driver) before every match will hold his hands high to the sky as everyone cheers, then he will lower them. At this time everyone is to get completely silent. He will then raise and lower them at different heights showing how loud for everyone to cheer. There will also be special hand signals given out so that special things can be cheered. So my challenge to you is to make sure that your entire team in the stands know about this so that everyone will get into it. It is really fun with everybody doing it at the same time.
I'm sure that Rolling Thunder will totally get into this! And I can see a few modifications to our standard cheers...
"Roll-ing Thun-der clap clap clapclapclap" will joined with "Ma-rie Cur-ie clap clap clapclapclap!"
"I believe that Robots Rock!" will include a periodic "I believe that Curie Rocks!"
I am so packing my ear-plugs! :ahh:
MasterChief 573
10-04-2008, 12:56
1025 is happy to be competing on Curie this year. The Michigan teams got split up almost equally among the divisions. So while we'll be looking forward to seeing some old acquaintences, we are also looking forward to making new alliances from around the country and world.
IMPI Robotics is a new team formed after the 2007 season. We operate out of Ferndale HS, and have veteran members from inactive teams, as well as rookie members. We also are privileged to be allied with Trophy Robotics of South Africa (RSA) who make up part of our team. Seven of our members are from RSA and have travelled to join us this week, and will be in Atlanta. Stop by our pit to meet us (look for the flaming tiki torches) or visit our scouts in the stands (royal blue shirts).
It will be good seeing you Mr. Voshol, I haven't gotten to see any of the team since you guys made the transition from 1188 to 1025. My dad was crushed when I told him you guys changed teams because he was wearing a Oaktown Crewz polo at the time.
Pjohn1959
10-04-2008, 13:58
Thank you again, David - though I have to say - watch out for some good ole friendly competition coming from the Texas teams. :)
Jane
I had better hear some noise from TEXAS - all the way in Newton..
JaneYoung
10-04-2008, 14:33
I had better hear some noise from TEXAS - all the way in Newton..
No problem. Some of those teams over on Galileo and Archimedes may be able to hear us as well. :D
rachakate
10-04-2008, 14:54
(Happy Birthday Greg)
KevinReid
10-04-2008, 16:35
Team 2609 from Guelph, Canada will be there.
Rookie and loving it!
nikeairmancurry
10-04-2008, 18:25
Well, this might be alittle scouting, but it would be nice if somteams sumed up their season and what they wer egood at.. it would probably benfit all teams in the hard day of scoutingif they could skip acouple of teams that gave some good infomation...
i_am_samus
10-04-2008, 19:22
Hmmm, that is a fairly good idea, however, it's a lot easier to imagine what a robot can do when you actually see it in person, especially in action.
If I tried to describe my robot, it'd take forever. And none of the scouters on my team are on CD xD
nikeairmancurry
10-04-2008, 19:53
Thats pretty funny.. Maybe you can give a genral what does it do!! Or one of the great qualities it has for example...
We generally get 4-5 lines in hybrid and an ball once in a while..
If our driver is on (ME) we probably could get 3 or more hurdles...
Also as a FYI we were the Great Lakes Reginoal Champs with 67 who is also in the divison and 503.
MasterChief 573
10-04-2008, 20:57
Thats pretty funny.. Maybe you can give a genral what does it do!! Or one of the great qualities it has for example...
We generally get 4-5 lines in hybrid and an ball once in a while..
If our driver is on (ME) we probably could get 3 or more hurdles...
Also as a FYI we were the Great Lakes Reginoal Champs with 67 who is also in the divison and 503.
I don't think I need to describe our robot to you man (you've seen it plenty already!) However, I can give a basic description for all the other fine individuals who are interested. Well, maybe later at least, I'm currently preoccupied with homework.
Electricia 1599
10-04-2008, 21:41
Hey everyone,
This is team 1599 and we are so thrilled to be going to the nationals in Atlanta. I was wondering if you could give us any tips about the competition and what goes on. Its our first time going so we are all a little nervous. If you have any tips or just want to get to know us just e-mail me back. I would love to get to know everyone. See you at competition!!!
Well, this might be alittle scouting, but it would be nice if somteams sumed up their season and what they wer egood at.. it would probably benfit all teams in the hard day of scoutingif they could skip acouple of teams that gave some good infomation...
Umm Our robot also can do 4 to 5 lines in auton, and it has gotten a ball down once. We usually get 4 hurdles and a place at the end. It is also bright yellow and that's pretty cool I guess
Don't jinx it!!!!
Rees......baby.....I don't jinx things......u know me.....all i will say is smell whats in the air......
Greg Needel
10-04-2008, 23:14
Rees......baby.....I don't jinx things......u know me.....all i will say is smell whats in the air......
is that what the rock is cooking?
is that what the rock is cooking?
I haven't been into professional wrestling in awhile Greg, but whatever floats your boat I guess.......so shall I be seeing you on your Segway in Atlanta next week as usual?
Teams 16, 118, 1477 are in the curie together? Its going to be a repeat of the Bayou regional!
Pjohn1959
11-04-2008, 10:46
One could only hope...
Go TEXAS
MasterChief 573
11-04-2008, 13:15
Michigan v. Texas? It would be interesting if the alliances in the division final were one all michigan and one all texas. I personally would love to see that but I wonder if an integration of the two would make a stonger alliance.
rees2001
11-04-2008, 13:18
Michigan v. Texas? It would be interesting if the alliances in the division final were one all michigan and one all texas. I personally would love to see that but I wonder if an integration of the two would make a stonger alliance.
Don't count out the Rochester NY connection. It would be cool to see a NY Michigan alliance again. ;)
tennispro9911
11-04-2008, 15:42
67, 191, 2053 upstate NY
It would be interesting if the alliances in the division final were one all michigan and one all texas.
:( So sad there aren't enough Hawaii teams to make an all Hawaii alliance. Even if there were, hopefully alliances get picked based on merit and not region. :)
tennispro9911
11-04-2008, 16:28
I'm sure teams will pick based on merit. Just its interesting to throw around alliances based on regional that would do well. Everyone knows that once the selection starts, region distiction means very little compared to robot capabilities, although 2053 won FLR when allied with 191 (and 20, 174) so that would be fun to revive that alliance.
JaneYoung
11-04-2008, 16:37
:( So sad there aren't enough Hawaii teams to make an all Hawaii alliance. Even if there were, hopefully alliances get picked based on merit and not region. :)
Yup.
Let's see,
we have:
California, Arkansas, Michigan, Indiana, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey,
Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Hawai'i :), North Carolina, New Hampshire, Ohio, Maryland, Iowa, Arizona, South Carolina, Brazil (!), Colorado, Georgia, Rhode Island, Virgina, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kansas, Illinois, Nevada, Idaho, Canada (!), Mexico (!), Mississippi, and Massachussets. Who'd I miss?
This is going to be great!
And very loud!
Here are some stats on teams in the Curie (http://www.team330.org/curie_2008.html) division. Columns are sortable (JavaScript must be enabled, I believe).
Welcome Team 348 to the Curie Division!
Welcome Team 348 to the Curie Division!
So we got the 348, 358, and 368 :].
Don't count out the Rochester NY connection. It would be cool to see a NY Michigan alliance again. ;)
What about not jinxing it reese?.....but yes Michigan/Rochester alliance would bring back some good memories:] .......oh Einstein.......
JaneYoung
12-04-2008, 12:50
Are you guys awake yet?
Somebody starting talking stats and robot capabilities...else I'll start talking about neato 'bots I saw at OKC, using NEM terminology instead of engineering terminology. Oh the horror.
(I'm joking, I think...)
MA-DAME
MasterChief 573
12-04-2008, 13:08
I'm going to make a bold prediction, the winning alliance in Curie is going to have one MI team, one NY team, and one TX team (191, 118/1477, 573/67/326)? If any of those three robots team up, it might be all but a done deal.
I'm going to make a bold prediction, the winning alliance in Curie is going to have one MI team, one NY team, and one TX team (190, 118/1477, 573/67/326)? If any of those three robots team up, it might be all but a done deal.
190 is not from NY, they are from Worcester, Massachusetts. I think you meant to say 191. :)
MasterChief 573
12-04-2008, 13:52
190 is not from NY, they are from Worcester, Massachusetts. I think you meant to say 191. :)
Yup.
Jack Murphy
13-04-2008, 12:09
It's quiet out here. Too quiet...
David Brinza
13-04-2008, 12:18
It's quiet out here. Too quiet...We're not having a case of "Galileo Division" envy here, are we??:p
CU-RIE!
JaneYoung
13-04-2008, 12:28
We're not having a case of "Galileo Division" envy here, are we??:p
The last thing the competitors on Galileo are going to want is for the competitors on Curie to shut down. Curie is Curie. It's going to rock with competition, awesome alliances, reffing, and FIRST personalities. So are the other divisions. It will be exhausting and exhilarating, both, with everyone bringing their A game. The pits are going to be fun - wonder if 45 is bringing their New Year's ball again this year.
MA-DAME
Andy Baker
13-04-2008, 12:45
The pits are going to be fun - wonder if 45 is bringing their New Year's ball again this year.
MA-DAME
CUR-IE
No, 45 is not planning to bring their New Year's Eve ball this year.
The drive team has been practicing so much that they might get confused. We had to hide this LED Ball, for fear that they would grab it throw it over the Overpass.
I think that the drive team has put in over 140 simulated 2 minute matches since our last regional, on the backup robot.
Andy B.
nikeairmancurry
13-04-2008, 12:54
So where is everyone staying and how are they planning to get to atlanta...
Team 326 is drving the lovely 14 hours and staying a the Beauitful hilton hotel after being kicked from the omni..
Lets get some responses...
bigbeezy
13-04-2008, 14:26
1592 will be driving 8 hours from sunny central Florida and staying at the Embassy Suites. we should be arriving around 5 on Wednesday.
Karin1649
13-04-2008, 15:52
1649 is leaving Wednesday afternoon and arriving that night by plane. We're staying at the Marriott Marquis.
Can't wait!!
wsansewjs
13-04-2008, 16:27
Don't forget that Team Resistance 86 is coming to the Curie field to bring you the best flexibility we can provide for the amazing and intensifying field in honor of Madame Curie! We are from Jacksonville, Florida and are looking forward to playing among with you guys!
-Josh S.
The 2 train is leaving Laguardia Airport in NYC on Wednesday night, arriving in Atlanta at around 10 pm and staying at....the Marriot Marquis...looking forward to playing with you all this week :].
MasterChief 573
13-04-2008, 19:09
The Mech Warriors will be coming by plane Wednesday afternoon and will be staying at the Baymont Inn and Suites.....all by ourselves?
1t5h1e1o
13-04-2008, 19:11
Rolling Thunder will be leaving Rochester around 6 am on Wednesday, getting to Atlanta around 10 am I believe, and staying at the Marriott Marquis
suewanninger
13-04-2008, 19:30
The Hilltoppers are leaving Milwaukee at 8:30 am on Wednesday, arriving in Atlanta at around 11:30 am. We're staying at the Embassy Suites Centennial Park.
shortone1320
13-04-2008, 21:22
Don't forget us team 126. We'll be there, better than ever.
tennispro9911
14-04-2008, 10:15
We leave tomorrow at 7 on a bus from Binghamton, NY area and will arrive mid-day Wednesday.
One day until we leave.
Two days until uncrating.
Three days until practice matches start.
Four days until matches matter.
Five days until the Curie Division champion takes home the gold overall!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, who wants to be bold and make predictions?
If I have time, I'm going to use the offensive power rankings and go through and simulate matches to get the top 8 seeds if everything went according to power rankings which it won't. I'll try to do both overall considering all regionals and the highest regional power ranking. That will be interesting to see how that turns out. I've seen 67 and 191 in person and had the pleasure of being on 191's alliance at FLR, which is a huge reason my team is competing in Atlanta this week. Both have great robots.
I believe that 2337 has a very good chance.
We fly out tomorrow night, and we have all day Wednesday and all day Sunday to ourselves, and we are staying at the Marriot marquis(sp.)
nikeairmancurry
15-04-2008, 08:10
To make any bold predictions you would have to see a couple of quailifing matches to start to get an idea of whos robobts are capatible with who.
As example.. At GLR we wouldn't have wanted to be on an alliance with the martians (70, 494) because we felt that we would have to many automous problems of running into each other. Also with rush (27) we weren't a really able to play their style of offenise they wanted us to play. With HOT (67) we were able to qucikly help them get balls down for them to have one to hurdle, also in three matches we had atleset 30 point autons (one being a lovely 60 points).
So i say once see acouple of matches you'll have a better idea of who can work with who.
But i'll give you a small prediction of a good alliance that could take Curie and put a strong fight on Einstien..
If 67/326/33 were on any allaince its over...Some qucik stats
67- Winner GLR, hurdle 4-5, 4 to 5 lines in auton
326- Winner GLR, hurdle 2-3, run 7-8 laps, 4 to 5 lines in auton maybe a ball or two
33- Semifinalest in all 3 reginoals, hurdle 4 to 5, get 3-4 lines in auton
Perfect matches with these three teams (and both balls down in auton) possible scores of : 152 (w/o 326 hurding and runnig laps playing defense)
4 hurdles by 33/67= 80 points 5 laps by 326= 10 points
perfect auton 67=16 points 33=16 points 326= 32 points(with two balls down)
But this is all totally a unlikely happening, 326 or 33 being a 3rd round pick is very unlikely, but who knows.
MasterChief 573
15-04-2008, 11:17
If 67/326/33 were on any allaince its over.
Thats a pretty bold statement, their are a ton of great robots in curie, and I'd also say that, with the utmost respect for their team, 33 seems a little over rated to me. Good robot, definitely. As great as they were two years+ ago, not in my opinion. Also, if your gonna say that an alliance of 67/326/33 were unstoppable, I'd have to counter with an alliance of 191/1477/118. That by no means would be an easy match up for your unstoppable alliance and their would be a high chance of you losing. But lets be realistic, there is almost no chance of either of these alliances happening because they are all teams that will go quickly. So let me make this very general prediction, if any alliance has three robots that all rank in the top 15 OPR wise at (and this is very important) THE CHAMPIONSHIP (not based on previous performances) AND is a strategically balanced alliance, they will be the team to beat.
vic burg
15-04-2008, 12:00
Yay I get to scout now! I think this is like the 4th or 5th time 108 has been in Curie.
Since 2005, so this year is the 4th year in a row. And unless any teams in between us and number get added, then we will probably stay in Curie for a few more years. :D
I'm wondering though, if FIRST will ever switch up the order/way they do the placement. (i.e. By 3s, a random picker (like the Lotto), etc.)
Freddy Schurr
15-04-2008, 12:38
I believe that 2337 has a very good chance.
Watch Out Curie! This team has some serious potential to make it to Einstein!
Greg Needel
15-04-2008, 13:03
Similarly to Joe Ross in the Galileo Thread. This is an iterative ranks result. The team list was cycled 256 times and then using the OPR the winners of each match were determined. Then using FIRST's ranking criteria the ranks were generated for each iteration. What you see here is the summary report for all 256 runs of this process.
the data is in this format
Team numbers (sorted by highest percent of being #1 seed)
Highest rank achieved throughout all the cycles
lowest rank achieved throughout all the cycles
Average rank
Median rank (the middle)
Mode (most common rank)
Times a team was the #1 seed (out of 256 cycles)
Times a team was in the top 8 (out of 256 cycles)
% a team was in the top 8 (out of 256 cycles)
Now I would like to note that this is based solely on the OPR which is past performance and while there are teams that don't show they can make the top 8 statistically in real life anything can happen. Basically don't think that I was attacking your team if you are lower than you think you should be as this doesn't take into account defense, robots breaking, penalties, etc. This all for fun anyway.
Thanks to Joe Ross for the code to do this, my way was not nearly as elegant as his.
Teams Min Max average median mode #1 seed top 8 %top 8
67 1 47 10 6 1 40 155 60.5%
1126 1 47 9 7 1 28 148 57.8%
368 1 61 13 9 6 19 124 48.4%
2171 1 48 9 8 2 18 134 52.3%
16 1 63 16 12 6 18 95 37.1%
33 1 56 14 11 5 16 113 44.1%
191 1 65 15 12 4 15 97 37.9%
100 1 64 16 13 5 13 88 34.4%
395 1 63 14 11 3 12 107 41.8%
326 1 76 21 18 8 9 58 22.7%
126 1 67 17 14 5 8 92 35.9%
2337 1 67 14 11 5 7 96 37.5%
501 1 74 22 20 12 7 47 18.4%
1511 1 65 19 16 9 6 64 25.0%
237 1 76 21 17 14 6 60 23.4%
118 1 65 23 22 18 6 40 15.6%
358 1 78 21 17 17 5 56 21.9%
1477 1 61 19 17 9 4 57 22.3%
768 1 77 21 17 8 4 58 22.7%
2590 1 83 28 27 21 3 27 10.5%
703 1 79 19 17 8 2 62 24.2%
1592 1 77 22 20 19 2 51 19.9%
45 1 81 28 28 29 2 25 9.8%
1649 1 75 32 29 21 1 16 6.3%
2344 1 85 36 36 36 1 11 4.3%
231 1 83 43 45 64 1 4 1.6%
173 1 85 46 46 44 1 3 1.2%
1939 1 85 54 56 55 1 1 0.4%
1418 2 83 31 28 21 0 20 7.8%
435 2 81 33 31 31 0 16 6.3%
1350 2 82 35 33 28 0 10 3.9%
294 3 85 40 40 46 0 8 3.1%
57 2 80 38 39 45 0 9 3.5%
573 3 78 37 34 34 0 6 2.3%
223 5 84 44 44 48 0 1 0.4%
108 5 84 42 43 19 0 7 2.7%
2609 2 83 40 37 24 0 4 1.6%
903 3 84 43 42 63 0 6 2.3%
1732 4 85 42 41 23 0 4 1.6%
1747 2 84 43 44 65 0 3 1.2%
155 6 84 45 46 43 0 4 1.6%
486 2 83 46 47 46 0 5 2.0%
1386 2 84 46 44 52 0 3 1.2%
2520 4 85 51 53 66 0 3 1.2%
138 5 85 49 50 64 0 3 1.2%
1989 4 85 47 46 38 0 3 1.2%
75 4 85 49 50 63 0 2 0.8%
178 2 82 49 50 50 0 5 2.0%
1802 7 85 52 53 75 0 1 0.4%
418 8 84 50 50 63 0 1 0.4%
1025 6 85 50 51 78 0 2 0.8%
271 4 85 52 54 51 0 2 0.8%
2474 3 85 51 54 37 0 3 1.2%
1013 8 84 52 52 35 0 1 0.4%
1699 11 84 53 54 68 0 0 0.0%
2053 5 84 52 53 51 0 2 0.8%
1860 2 84 54 56 71 0 1 0.4%
340 12 85 55 55 76 0 0 0.0%
1566 10 85 52 53 66 0 0 0.0%
967 6 85 54 57 69 0 2 0.8%
1245 12 85 56 57 54 0 0 0.0%
527 5 85 56 58 38 0 1 0.4%
2410 2 84 53 56 38 0 2 0.8%
2556 9 85 56 58 38 0 0 0.0%
462 3 85 57 59 59 0 3 1.2%
304 5 85 58 60 80 0 1 0.4%
1311 9 85 58 61 54 0 0 0.0%
1533 10 85 57 59 57 0 0 0.0%
2038 11 85 59 64 71 0 0 0.0%
86 10 85 59 62 47 0 0 0.0%
1102 10 85 62 65 72 0 0 0.0%
830 7 85 50 50 39 0 3 1.2%
2115 10 85 62 66 85 0 0 0.0%
1156 7 85 62 67 80 0 1 0.4%
858 2 85 63 67 79 0 1 0.4%
1071 12 85 63 69 72 0 0 0.0%
1266 9 85 64 67 80 0 0 0.0%
2629 4 85 63 66 57 0 2 0.8%
1599 16 85 69 73 81 0 0 0.0%
2454 14 85 68 73 83 0 0 0.0%
4 13 85 67 71 80 0 0 0.0%
604 22 85 71 74 83 0 0 0.0%
2429 29 85 73 77 85 0 0 0.0%
203 24 85 73 78 84 0 0 0.0%
677 35 85 78 81 85 0 0 0.0%
XaulZan11
15-04-2008, 13:26
To respond to some different posts:
Since people have already starting making some predictions, I'll post mine. I'm predicting that 16/67/1592 will take the division. 16 and 67 both are fantastic hurdles and 1592 is an all around solid robot that can fit many different roles.
I agree that 2337 is the real deal. I heard a lot about them and saw them boot the ball over the overpass, but I thought they were just a one trick pony and because of thier cool method of hurdling, they were getting too much attention. But after scouting them, I was cleary wrong. Not only are they one of the most fun teams to watch hurdle, they have a good hybrid, good knockoff and very good drivers. I usually don't like a rookie's chances getting into eliminations for the Championship, but these team have a fantastic chance.
To the numbers that Greg posted, they show how wide open this division is. There are plenty of teams that have a legitimate chance at getting the number 1 seed.
There are also a lot of sleepers. One sleeper that I haven't heard anyone talk about is 2171. I think many people see their high number and just dismiss them right off the bat. Unlike 2337, they don't have the flashy hurdling so they tend to get lost in the suffle. They were the top seed and eventual winner in West Michigan, so they have proven they can win. Once they get in a roll, they are deadly, and I doubt they will face much defense (atleast early on). While they may not be on the top line, they are a strong team that will fly under the radar and may be a favorable schedule away from capturing a high seed.
A second team that could suprise is 501. In watching thier matches, they showed flashes of greatness but other times was just good. If they play as well as they can the whole time, they could be a major threat.
Whatever happens, it should be very exciting!
33- Semifinalest in all 3 reginoals, hurdle 4 to 5, get 3-4 lines in auton
Actually we were Quarter Finalists at Midwest, Finalist at West Michigan, and Semi Finalists at GLR
33 seems a little over rated to me.
Ouch
Meredith Novak
15-04-2008, 14:45
The "never bet against Beatty" philosophy is true for the Killer Bees as well. They are always an excellent and very professional team. Especially when the pressure is on. The harder the competition gets, the better they get.
tennispro9911
15-04-2008, 14:48
Check out http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2123? for info about 2053.
XaulZan11
15-04-2008, 14:50
The whole overrated/underrated debate depends on who your talking to. If someone thinks 33 is the best team this year (better than 1114), then yeah, they are probably overrated. If you talk to someone who thinks they are just good, then they are probably underrated. I think 33 can hold thier own against anyone in Curie and wouldn't be surprised at all if they get to Einstien.
nikeairmancurry
15-04-2008, 15:11
Actually we were Quarter Finalists at Midwest, Finalist at West Michigan, and Semi Finalists at GLR
Yeah totally my fault, that post was decently ealier for me :)
Yes as to go from what XaulZan11 said, i never said that 33 was the best team out there.. They come in year after year with good machines and if i see them on the alliance wall across from me, i am already scared on the pure expirence of the team
Robert Cawthon
15-04-2008, 15:47
This is our first time at the Finals. We intend to sneak under the radar and be there in the eliminations before anyone realizes it. We're not called Stealth for nothing.:)
Im curious to see not so much to see which teams make it to the finals, but rather which kind of robots. To go back to the arm vs. launcher debate, we have a bunch of good arms, and a bunch of good launcher, it'll be interesting to see how this division goes, two arms, two launchers, or one of each.
MasterChief 573
15-04-2008, 16:49
Ouch
I by no means meant to imply that you guys aren't a top tier team, I have a lot of respect for how your team comes out with great robots each year. I just think that a lot of people exaggerate how good some of the 'veteran' teams are without knowing their status. Their are certain teams that I think get over rated by others just because of previous performance and not because of true ability and results. A lot of these teams I have a lot of respect for, I just think that they get good press for the wrong reasons.
tennispro9911
15-04-2008, 18:42
2053 is leaving shortly. We wish everyone safe travels and best of luck.
May Curie prevail on Einstein.
nikeairmancurry
15-04-2008, 18:52
At 3am Eastern Standard Time.. Team 326 will begin the 14 hour trip down to hotlanta.. If any Curie teams are hanging at the Hilton let us know.. Maybe we can work out some scouting teams that can benifit all with less the work.. Or we can just party!!! :)
=Martin=Taylor=
15-04-2008, 19:59
At 3am Eastern Standard Time.. Team 326 will begin the 14 hour trip down to hotlanta.. If any Curie teams are hanging at the Hilton let us know.. Maybe we can work out some scouting teams that can benifit all with less the work.. Or we can just party!!! :)
We're staying at the Hilton (Garden Inn to be exact)!
I approve of partying :D If you guys bring Laptops you could come join our Armagetron (http://www.armagetronad.net/) Lan party.
Or we could scout... :rolleyes:
Who else from Curie is staying at the Hilton?
Good Luck all - I'll be watching from Work and Class haha...
Bcliff358
15-04-2008, 21:31
At 3am Eastern Standard Time.. Team 326 will begin the 14 hour trip down to hotlanta.. If any Curie teams are hanging at the Hilton let us know.. Maybe we can work out some scouting teams that can benifit all with less the work.. Or we can just party!!! :)
team 358 is staying at the hilton, and maybe we can work something out for scouting. This is going to be fun.
JaneYoung
16-04-2008, 15:00
418 has been here since mid-morning. We've toured Georgia Tech, eaten at the Varsity, driven by the Dome, and are waiting to get into our rooms.
The azaleas are in full bloom as are the dogwoods. It is gorgeous here, blue blue skies. Chilly for folks like me. A light jacket will be nice to have.
As you look around at the buildings, you can see the damage/windows/plywood coverings. Its impact is significant. Kudos to everyone who has worked in helping the Championship happen.
Atlanta is awesome!
GaTech is an awesome place to go to school if you can make it past the first year. Maybe I'm just biased though ;)
JaneYoung
16-04-2008, 15:17
GaTech is an awesome place to go to school if you can make it past the first year. Maybe I'm just biased though ;)
We called one of our '04 alumni who is a senior there, and he met us and went to the Varsity with us. It was great! He'll be volunteering Saturday so we'll get to see him again. He volunteered at Peachtree and filled me in on that exciting and incredible experience and also, about the tornado. whew!
Ryo Chiba
17-04-2008, 22:14
I've been looking around for a Curie match list for Friday and Saturday. I've searched the forums, but haven't found anything. Does anybody know where one would be online?
vic burg
18-04-2008, 18:50
I've been looking around for a Curie match list for Friday and Saturday. I've searched the forums, but haven't found anything. Does anybody know where one would be online?
There is a list of matches on usfirst.org specifically, this (http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/events/Curie/matchresults.html) link, you can see today's results, tomorrows matches, awards, etc.
Also, I would like to thank all the wonderful teams that I have meet, who my team has been paired with, and I would also like to wish all the teams GREAT luck for the rest of the comptition and for off-season this year!
MADAME CURIE!!!!
Vikesrock
19-04-2008, 12:02
Alliances
1592-1126-1511
2337-33-45
67-16-348
368-100-2171
304-191-326
1071-604-118
1649-527-108
2344-155-231
Tim Delles
19-04-2008, 12:23
1592-1126-1511
2337-33-45
67-16-348
368-100-2171
304-191-326
1071-604-118
1649-527-108
2344-155-231
Quarter Finals
#1 def #8
#2 def #7
#3 def #6
#4 def #5
Semi Finals
#1 def #4
#3 def #2
Finals
#3 def #1
# 67, 16, 348 seems like to good of an alliance to come out of this division.
XaulZan11
19-04-2008, 12:27
Quarterfinals:
1 def 8
2 def 7
3 def 6
4 def 5
Semifinals:
4 def 1
3 def 2
Finals:
3 def 4
Once 67 lost thier last match, when they faced amazing double team defense, I thought that they lost thier chance at 16. Should be a very exciting eliminations
Tim Delles
19-04-2008, 15:41
congrats to 67, 16, and 348
=Martin=Taylor=
20-04-2008, 16:42
Big thanks to team 368 for picking us! :D It was fun playing with you guys for once!
Also thanks to team 2171 for rounding out our alliance. You guys were awesome!
I'd also like to thank 67 for the cool award they gave us, and for helping us set a record score on Curie (154 points without penalties). It was by far the most exciting match of our season.
You did a terrific job representing Curie on Einstein!
vince2171
20-04-2008, 19:12
Big thanks to team 368 for picking us! :D It was fun playing with you guys for once!
Also thanks to team 2171 for rounding out our alliance. You guys were awesome!
I'd also like to thank 67 for the cool award they gave us, and for helping us set a record score on Curie (154 points without penalties). It was by far the most exciting match of our season.
You did a terrific job representing Curie on Einstein!
Thank you 368 for picking our 2nd year team, team 2171, to work with you and team 100. Thanks for the great hats 100. We made a great run but got beat by a great winning alliance, which did great in the finals. Thanks for giving a team in the 2000's a chance to run with you guys.
During the qualifications, it seemed they paired all the low numbered teams together and we never got to compete with any team numbers below 1000.
As one of the team mentors for our team, this was a great learning experience. Thanks to our teachers and other mentors and parents and to Team Hammond, Team 71, for their help and mentoring.
gunsanbob
20-04-2008, 19:12
Team 2337 the rookies were awesome, but they lost in the semi finals by an inch
The best semi final to watch is curie semi final 2-3
The score with out the penatlies is Red 130 and blue 136 :( :( :(
My heart was beating so fast when i was watching that match
I really recommended you guyz to watch that match
Be perpared for team 2337 to destory the other teams the next year
;) ;)
Josh Goodman
20-04-2008, 22:56
Thanks to 1592 and 1126 who picked us! It was a great experience playing with you guys and it was great to see 1126's hybrid do so well!!
Hope to play with y'all again! (pstt RUCKUS)
andrew348
21-04-2008, 00:08
I would like to give a few thanks for Team 348, Norwell Robotics’ success at the Championship.
First to our sponsors, PIAB, Mass Bay Engineering, KentFab, Infrared Remote Solutions, Boston Gear, W.P. Moore, & Excel Tool & Die.
And a special thanks to SolidWorks, Eduware, Foster-Miller and CADNexus for there sponsorship the week before the event.
Thanks to Teams 67, HOT, and 16, Baxter's Bomb Squad, for choosing us in their alliance.
Thanks to Team 375, Robotic Plaque for lending us their batteries and charging station
Thanks to Team 33, Killer Bees, for lending us their backup battery.
Thanks to Dan Hoizner of Team 395, 2Train Robotics, for his help during our Finals Run.
Thanks to Shaun of Team 25, Raider Robotics, Raile of Team 375, Robotic Plaque, and Raul of Team 111, WildStang for Strategy assistance.
And of course to our team mentors, Herm, Kwol, Browne, Nycz, Wayne Penn, Nestor, Lovell, Forti and countless others who worked countless hours for the students.
With out all of the help from above, Team 348 would not have done as well.
We would also like to congratulate Teams 1114, 217 and 148 for the Championship Win.
Meredith Novak
21-04-2008, 00:23
Thanks to our long-time friend/worthy adversary:) , Team 67, for selecting us. Thank you Team 348, our new friends, for joining us and doing such an excellent job. What an honor to be on Einstein with these two outstanding teams - WOW!!!
Wow. What an event. Looking at the going in Stats, everybody thought Curie was soft (including myself). After this weekend, I can definitely say I was proven wrong.
Congratulations to 67, 16, 348. You guys did a fantastic job and made the division proud by getting second.
Content edited due to inaccuracy thanks.
To our alliance thanks for a great job. When you put up 130 points and still loose, that is a loss you can still be proud of.
2337- Thank you so much for picking us. You guys have had an amazing season and I hope you continue to come back with strong robots and a strong team.
45- We were so excited to get to play with you guys. Hopefully we get the chance again at IRI.
Meredith Novak
21-04-2008, 10:19
Wow. What an event. Looking at the going in Stats, everybody thought Curie was soft (including myself). After this weekend, I can definitely say I was proven wrong.
Congratulations to 67, 16, 348. You guys did a fantastic job and made the division proud by getting second.
Also congratulations to 1592, 1126, 1511. Nice job making it to the finals of Curie.
To our alliance thanks for a great job. When you put up 130 points and still loose, that is a loss you can still be proud of.
2337- Thank you so much for picking us. You guys have had an amazing season and I hope you continue to come back with strong robots and a strong team.
45- We were so excited to get to play with you guys. Hopefully we get the chance again at IRI.
Thanks, Bees, we love you guys!!! Playing against your alliance was TERRIFYING - great job. Hope to see you all at IRI.
Bobwhite2337
21-04-2008, 10:57
To our alliance thanks for a great job. When you put up 130 points and still loose, that is a loss you can still be proud of.
2337- Thank you so much for picking us. You guys have had an amazing season and I hope you continue to come back with strong robots and a strong team.
45- We were so excited to get to play with you guys. Hopefully we get the chance again at IRI.
Thank you to the Bees. It was fantastic to be able to team up with you, after playing against you at West Michigan. You were great partners.
Team 45, you guys were awesome. Hope we get a chance to do it again in the future.
And to EVERY team who competed on Curie, THANK YOU for making our rookie year one that none of us will ever forget. Every team should be congratulated on a great season. Everybody is a winner with FIRST.
Now ... what is the date for the 2009 Kickoff?? :D
Adam Freeman
21-04-2008, 14:02
Also congratulations to 1592, 1126, 1511. Nice job making it to the finals of Curie.
Actually...100, 368, and 2171 were the Finalists on Curie.
A couple of thank you's....
Cody, Nick, Ken, Jim, Ethan, Nick, and Paul...excellent job staying calm and focused the entire eliminations. Scouting team - your excellent data made it much easier to form the top 24. Teachers, Parents, and Mentors great job keeping everything running smoothly.
16 - Awesome job this weekend, way to stick with it the entire time. It seemed something wasn't quite right on Friday with the machine, but you guys worked hard and found that radio problem. I know Jim and Ken kept telling me to watch for 16 on Saturday....you quickly climped my list Saturday morning. You guys carried us early in the Curie eliminations. Excellent job root causing the issues during the Semi's on Einstien.
348 - Your performances during qualifying matches showed you could play effective D and score huge points for us in Hybrid mode. You guys performed flawlessly in Curie and on Einstien. Wayne had an effective strategy of making sure he talked to me everytime (I think) I walked into the pits...It made me take notice every match you were in.
We almost beat the 'Ultimate Alliance'! :yikes:
Thanks to the mentors from 111, 375, and 25 that helped with strategy and scouting from the other fields.
2337 - Hopefully there are no hard feelings we declined. You guys built an excellent machine. We just usually prefer to lead our own alliance when we have the oppertunity.
1126, 100, 33....etc, you all had excellent robots and we would have been happy to play with any of you. Funny thing is that everyone was so close that we wrote mulitple teams on our board and showed Cody on the field, before we decided on the Bomb Squad.....the tipping point was a dream that our coach had Friday night, that we would win with Baxter :eek:
Excellent job all weekend. I think we proved Curie Division can hang with any of the other fields this weekend.
Bill Benson
21-04-2008, 16:29
Thanks to 1592 and 1126 who picked us! It was a great experience playing with you guys and it was great to see 1126's hybrid do so well!!
Hope to play with y'all again! (pstt RUCKUS)
You are most welcome. Thanks for your support during the finals matches. Both 1126 and 1511 had fantastic autonomous modes, an area which kind of fell apart for us at Nats due to some drive train troubles. See you next year!
Derek Smith
21-04-2008, 17:41
Team 2337, you guys did amazing. I can't wait to see how well you do next season.
Team 33, every one of us was psyched to play with you guys. There must've been 5 or 6 of us sporting Killer Bees t-shirts on the bus ride home.
We were sweating when no one had picked us near the end of alliance selection. And when we heard you guys say "Team 45", all of us were on our feet. We couldn't have asked for a better alliance to play with. You were both near the top of our list for picks had we seeded in the top 8. But seriously, you guys were awesome. Can't wait for IRI.
I would like to give a few thanks for Team 348, Norwell Robotics’ success at the Championship.
First to our sponsors, PIAB, Mass Bay Engineering, KentFab, Infrared Remote Solutions, Boston Gear, W.P. Moore, & Excel Tool & Die.
And a special thanks to SolidWorks, Eduware, Foster-Miller and CADNexus for there sponsorship the week before the event.
Thanks to Teams 67, HOT, and 16, Baxter's Bomb Squad, for choosing us in their alliance.
Thanks to Team 375, Robotic Plaque for lending us their batteries and charging station
Thanks to Team 33, Killer Bees, for lending us their backup battery.
Thanks to Dan Hoizner of Team 395, 2Train Robotics, for his help during our Finals Run.
Thanks to Shaun of Team 25, Raider Robotics, Raile of Team 375, Robotic Plaque, and Raul of Team 111, WildStang for Strategy assistance.
And of course to our team mentors, Herm, Kwol, Browne, Nycz, Wayne Penn, Nestor, Lovell, Forti and countless others who worked countless hours for the students.
With out all of the help from above, Team 348 would not have done as well.
We would also like to congratulate Teams 1114, 217 and 148 for the Championship Win.
348 would also like to thank gary and the rest of 2Train Robotics. Without them wayne and i wouldnt have been able to get to Atlanta.
Big thanks to team 368 for picking us! :D It was fun playing with you guys for once!
Also thanks to team 2171 for rounding out our alliance. You guys were awesome!
I'd also like to thank 67 for the cool award they gave us, and for helping us set a record score on Curie (154 points without penalties). It was by far the most exciting match of our season.
You did a terrific job representing Curie on Einstein!
Thank you 368 for picking our 2nd year team, team 2171, to work with you and team 100. Thanks for the great hats 100. We made a great run but got beat by a great winning alliance, which did great in the finals. Thanks for giving a team in the 2000's a chance to run with you guys.
During the qualifications, it seemed they paired all the low numbered teams together and we never got to compete with any team numbers below 1000.
As one of the team mentors for our team, this was a great learning experience. Thanks to our teachers and other mentors and parents and to Team Hammond, Team 71, for their help and mentoring.
Thanks to both Team 100 and Team 2171 for being great partners!! This was the furthest our team has ever gotten at the Championships and we definitely could not have done it without you.
Team 100; After seven years in San Jose and this year in Portland, it was so great to finally play with your team in the eliminations! Over the years we would see your team with the orange hats at the San Jose Regional but we never got to play with you until now. Your team performed so well at Portland and to see your team get better and better made me glad we were allied with you!
Team 2171; Unfortunately our team was not able to play with any of the teams in the 2000's. However, due to us finally getting a scouting team up to Atlanta, they were able to see that your team could perform and you guys definitely did! Your team knew what needed to be done and your team number was definitely not indicative of your ability!
Hope to see you all at the 2009 Hawaii Regional!! ;)
carla_rose
23-04-2008, 00:08
Team 33, every one of us was psyched to play with you guys. There must've been 5 or 6 of us sporting Killer Bees t-shirts on the bus ride home.
Funny..there were 3 or 4 of us sporting TechnoKats shirts on our ride home.....
I know we were all pumped when you guys were left for us to pick and I personally think we all did amazing. We'll see you at IRI!
JaneYoung
23-04-2008, 13:07
Hello all,
This is a thank you to all the teams who helped out 418 during the competition on Curie. Gabe posted in CD on Friday night, offering some type of explanation (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67030) as he knew it at the time. There were many helping hands in the 418 pit, trying to get the robot back on the track and we thank you. I know of help from 1511, 16, and 111. If there are any other teams that sent members over to offer help, please let us know.
LASA Robotics is a quiet team. We work hard and help support others when we can. We have been around in the Central Texas area for several years and we hope that teams know they can count on our help and friendship. We are not used to needing help and support, ourselves, and the outpouring of offers from all the teams was humbling and overwhelming. It was not the competition that we had hoped for but, it was the competition that we had, and we learned many valuable lessons from it, individually and as a team.
Another thank you goes out to Mark Leon. I was in the stands and watched matches as our team came out without a robot and stood in the drivers' station with their alliance partners. When our robot was back on the field again, Mark Leon took the team flag offered from our coach, Tony Bertucci, and waved it around during the introductions of the teams. Then he went and stood on the side and waved the flag some more for what, to me, seemed just a little longer than he normally does. Whether he meant to or not, he was supporting 418 on the field, and also in stands, during a pretty tough time at the Championship. Thank you for that, Mark. Little things like waving a flag can mean a lot sometimes.
Curie absolutely rocked! All the way to Einstein. :)
Jane
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