[FF]: 2009 Season Long FF

[Vikesrock]

Btw, I may have missed this discussion (or forgotten) from the beginning, but what was the reason for having the lists all picked before Kickoff?
Just curious.

Because we all have more important things to do during build season.

[ATannahill]

And it's more fun to do it off of previous rankings without any input of the mew game or any team's status. The only thing that could make it better is if the lists got locked January 2nd.

[Elgin Clock]

And it's more fun to do it off of previous rankings without any input of the mew game or any team's status. The only thing that could make it better is if the lists got locked January 2nd.

That would suck if it got locked. lol
I need to go back & trade on some picks on nights I missed on one of these days.

[ATannahill]

Has Stephi Rae made a pick yet or is he booted?

[Koko Ed]

Stephi Rae has been dropped from the league due to chronic absenteeism.
Her picks are on a first come first served basis.

[ATannahill]

Stephi Rae has been dropped from the league due to chronic absenteeism.
Her picks are on a first come first served basis.
thanks

[Tottanka]

Is there a fast way to check if any new teams registered for a given regional?

[ATannahill]

Know how many there were, subtract the number there are now, is the answer zero? that is also pronounced "no"

[Koko Ed]

Is there a fast way to check if any new teams registered for a given regional?

Not that I know of. The old way FIRST used to list teams on the waitlist would have helped but now that's a big secret that they apparently think is nobody's business but their own. So outside of just realizing that there are more teams there and scanning over the ist for the new team there really is no way to know exactly who is there without a thorough investigation.
Yet another reason for an automatic interface.

[Koko Ed]

Btw, I may have missed this discussion (or forgotten) from the beginning, but what was the reason for having the lists all picked before Kickoff?
Just curious.
For those who have been complaining about this I ask you: When would you think you could get a good idea about a team? When they start posting an endless parade of vague spoilers? The best teams don't even let anyone see their robot til Thursday of the initial competition! Or days before the competition begins when everyone is busy prepping to go and don't have time to participate in a bunch of drafts.
Fantasy FIRST is not the NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL where the game is the same year after year after year. We get a whole new game with brand new machines made from scratch and we all have learned what looks good in the shop doesn't mean it's gonna perform on the field. So you're speculating anyways so you might as well do it in December whens there's nothing better to do while your waiting for kickoff (except for participating in the insane task of trying to figure out the game committees vexing riddles). So this is the best it gets guys. Deal with it.

[feliks_rosenber]

Is there a fast way to check if any new teams registered for a given regional?

I was asking myself the same question. It seems as if we gonna have a bunch of rookies this year in our regional but I can't figure out how many ....

:confused:

[Tottanka]

I was asking myself the same question. It seems as if we gonna have a bunch of rookies this year in our regional but I can't figure out how many ....

:confused:
Actually we were talking about teams that register to a given event late, not new teams to FIRST, new teams to a given regionals.

[Michelle Celio]

I was asking myself the same question. It seems as if we gonna have a bunch of rookies this year in our regional but I can't figure out how many ....

:confused:

Any team over 2681 is a rookie this season :)

[Koko Ed]

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[Tottanka]

Once again:
SDec 21 Colorado Regional
MDec 22 Connecticut Regional
TDec 23 Greater Toronto Regional
WDec 24 Hawaii Regional
FDec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
MDec 29Sacramento Regional
TDec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
WDec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
FJan 2Minnesota North Star Regional

[Koko Ed]

Just to let you guys know ahead of time there most likely won't be a draft on Tuesday night because I will be traveling at draft time then and will not be able to get online in a consistent enough basis to run a draft.

[Tottanka]

Just to let you guys know ahead of time there most likely won't be a draft on Tuesday night because I will be traveling at draft time then and will not be able to get online in a consistent enough basis to run a draft.

need someone else to do it?

[ATannahill]

I am still willing to work, on tuesday I can do it at 7.

[Koko Ed]

need someone else to do it?

I am still willing to work, on tuesday I can do it at 7.
If either of you want to take it on just PM me.

[Tottanka]

Ill be doing the GTR draft, so please send all your lists to me.
thanks

[Alex Cormier]

Ill be doing the GTR draft, so please send all your lists to me.
thanks

make it at 7pm EST, if you can't do it then someone else will have to, we all can't do a 1pm draft without notice again.

[Tottanka]

make it at 7pm EST, if you can't do it then someone else will have to, we all can't do a 1pm draft without notice again.

no worries.

[ATannahill]

I will be taking Connecticut Regional tomorrow, posting info today, it will be at 7pm, send me your lists.

[ATannahill]

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[JackN]

I see that you are planing on doing the Michigan state championship the weekend before the event. Could that be like the Wednesday before so that we have a better idea of the team list, since there is a district competition the weekend before and teams could very likely get moved in or out based on the results of this competition and the ability for teams to be able to pay their entry fee.

[Koko Ed]

I see that you are planing on doing the Michigan state championship the weekend before the event. Could that be like the Wednesday before so that we have a better idea of the team list, since there is a district competition the weekend before and teams could very likely get moved in or out based on the results of this competition and the ability for teams to be able to pay their entry fee.

No because I will be traveling to Michigan that night.
I'll do it Monday.

[EricH]

No because I will be traveling to Michigan that night.
I'll do it Monday.
I should be able to do it too, Ed.

[Tottanka]

GTR Random list:
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[Koko Ed]

I should be able to do it too, Ed.
You'll do it on Wednesday then? If you can then we can do it on Wednesday.

[EricH]

You'll do it on Wednesday then? If you can then we can do it on Wednesday.Last I checked, I don't have anything that week other than classes, and those don't go that late. I can do it on that Wednesday.

[Koko Ed]

Last I checked, I don't have anything that week other than classes, and those don't go that late. I can do it on that Wednesday.

Then it's a go. Wednesday it is.
I think it'll still have to be two leagues, even with 70 teams.

[EricH]

Then it's a go. Wednesday it is.
I think it'll still have to be two leagues, even with 70 teams.Yep, it will be.

(Unless more people drop out, but I don't foresee that.)

[EricH]

While it might not seem that trades take place because the revised lists aren't posted, I do have the scoring spreadsheet fully updated. Just because it isn't "officially listed" doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

(The same goes for those who have been booted. I might not have gotten to the tier, but I still removed them from the scoring sheet.)

[Tottanka]

Just reminding everyone that the GTR regional draft is scheduled for today, so please send all your lists to me.

Thanks.

[Koko Ed]

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[ATannahill]

may i inquire in to the activity of 340x4xLife.

[Tottanka]

may i inquire in to the activity of 340x4xLife.
He gave me lists for GTR.

[Koko Ed]

may i inquire in to the activity of 340x4xLife.

I've seen him quite alot recently. He's gotten alot better but he'll pass up on drafts occasionally.

[Tottanka]

Once again:
SDec 21 Colorado Regional
MDec 22 Connecticut Regional
TDec 23 Greater Toronto Regional
WDec 24 Hawaii Regional
FDec 26Las Vegas Regional , West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 27Lone Star Regional ,Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
SDec 28Microsoft Seattle Regional , Palmetto Regional
MDec 29Sacramento Regional
TDec 30SBPLI Long Island Regional
WDec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
FJan 2Minnesota North Star Regional

just to see it easier

[ATannahill]

Who is running the draft tonight? Nothing has been posted yet.

[Koko Ed]

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[ATannahill]

I realize that Eric was going to have trouble this week, is that why the West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition draft didn't happen? Are you going to need more help?

[Joe G.]

Are you going to need more help?

If so, I could probably take something over this week.

[EricH]

I'm pretty much out of it for the rest of the drafting. Either work or family stuff interferes. I'll still be able to keep the official who-has-what-teams sheet, but I won't be able to run any drafts until the Michigan State Championship.

The other option is that the drafts are run at midnight EST or WAY earlier than normal. We can't have that now, can we?;)

[Barry Bonzack]

I don't mind taking one over. I am free on the 29th, 30th, and 2nd (pick one evening, family gets others)

[ATannahill]

I am going to take the initiative to set out a schedule, if anyone has a problem or wants to help out pm me or post here.

SDec 27 West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition(Koko Ed)
SDec 28 Lone Star Regional(Koko Ed), Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition(me), Microsoft Seattle Regional(rocketperson44)
MDec 29 Palmetto Regional(Koko Ed)
TDec 30 Sacramento Regional(Koko Ed), SBPLI Long Island Regional(Barry Bonzack)
WDec 31Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional(Koko Ed)
FJan 2Minnesota North Star Regional(Koko Ed)

The Microsoft Seattle Regional(rocketperson44) can be moved to MDec 29 if there is a problem with 3 drafts in one day.

[Koko Ed]

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[Barry Bonzack]

Long island, got it. Send in your pick lists!

[Joe G.]

I can take Seattle the 28th. The 29th might pose a problem, however.

[ATannahill]

SDec 27 West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition(Koko Ed)
SDec 28 Lone Star Regional(Koko Ed), Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition(me), Microsoft Seattle Regional(rocketperson44)
MDec 29 Palmetto Regional(Koko Ed)
TDec 30 Sacramento Regional(Koko Ed), SBPLI Long Island Regional(Barry Bonzack)
WDec 31 Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional(Koko Ed)
FJan 2 Minnesota North Star Regional(Koko Ed)

All volunteers have agreed, send in your lists.

[Joe G.]

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[ATannahill]

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[Koko Ed]

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[Koko Ed]

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[Koko Ed]

The following league members have not been very active recently in the drafts.
If I do not see them participating in any way in tonight's draft I will be sending them PMs:
Elgin Clock
Nawaid Ladak
jtdowney

[ATannahill]

The following league members have not been very active recently in the drafts.
If I do not see them participating in any way in tonight's draft I will be sending them PMs:
Elgin Clock
Nawaid Ladak
jtdowney
When will their picks be available?

[EricH]

When will their picks be available?
Tomorrow night.

Sequence of booting, as a reminder: Player(s) miss(es) 4 drafts. The warning is posted on the day of the fifth draft; if the player doesn't draft, he gets a warning PM that night. If the warned player doesn't show up at all for the next day's drafts, the last draft that they are in to finish has a message on the end: XXXX has been booted from the league and his teams are up for grabs.

[Tottanka]

Do you guys mind announcing here if any of those 3 reply to your PM please.

I am making lists in case they drop, and need to know of any changes.

Thanks.

[Koko Ed]

Tomorrow night.

Sequence of booting, as a reminder: Player(s) miss(es) 4 drafts. The warning is posted on the day of the fifth draft; if the player doesn't draft, he gets a warning PM that night. If the warned player doesn't show up at all for the next day's drafts, the last draft that they are in to finish has a message on the end: XXXX has been booted from the league and his teams are up for grabs.

I actually expect to hear from most of them. It's Nawaid I'm mostly concerned about.

[ATannahill]

I actually expect to hear from most of them. It's Nawaid I'm mostly concerned about.
Keep us updated.

[Elgin Clock]

The following league members have not been very active recently in the drafts.
If I do not see them participating in any way in tonight's draft I will be sending them PMs:
Elgin Clock
Nawaid Ladak
jtdowney

Haha. Yeah; weekends away from home do that to ya'.
I'll be participating in tonights draft.
I'm still here & happy with my randoms from this weekend so it's all good.
The randomizer has been nice to me in the past, so I'm just letting it work for me the nights I can't be at the computer.

[Tottanka]

Haha. Yeah; weekends away from home do that to ya'.
I'll be participating in tonights draft.
I'm still here & happy with my randoms from this weekend so it's all good.
The randomizer has been nice to me in the past, so I'm just letting it work for me the nights I can't be at the computer.

$@#$@#$@#$@#, and here i was preparing for Grabbing :D

I wouldn't count on the random if i were you though...
you could have made lists on your free time and send them instead of selecting during the draft.

[Koko Ed]

$@#$@#$@#$@#, and here i was preparing for Grabbing :D

I wouldn't count on the random if i were you though...
you could have made lists on your free time and send them instead of selecting during the draft.

I knew Elgin would show and jtdowney is online and bound to wander by sooner than later.

[ATannahill]

I hope so, I would prefer them playing than having fewer people. But I still wouldn't mind some of their teams.

[Barry Bonzack]

We are so close to the end and the players have been active this long, I think its worth it to just let the game play itself out. Going back and picking on a 1st come 1st serve basis for 30 some drafts would give a major advantage to whoever happens to be online when its posted that a player is kicked off.

I'm not the one that sets the rules though.

[ATannahill]

We spending six weeks building a robot with little sleep, and you can't go through your drafts to see where you could prosper from someone dropping out? It is not that hard, Tottanka and I already have been working on it.

[Barry Bonzack]

Not sayin' I can't. I'm sayin' I don't wanna! ha ha. No, I'm actually just arguing that Nawaid and others have already put a massive amount of effort to stay in this long, and there will be a huge advantage to those that happen to be online when whoever is dropped. I plan to be on tomorrow since I am running the LI draft, but I prefer not to be accused of winning this year because someone dropped out during the final week.

[Tottanka]

Not sayin' I can't. I'm sayin' I don't wanna! ha ha. No, I'm actually just arguing that Nawaid and others have already put a massive amount of effort to stay in this long, and there will be a huge advantage to those that happen to be online when whoever is dropped. I plan to be on tomorrow since I am running the LI draft, but I prefer not to be accused of winning this year because someone dropped out during the final week.

Making the lists took me like 10 minutes.
I simply searched the Fantasy First forums for every thread with my nickname + the possible booted persons nickname, and went over it with the lists i made for every regional.

And you don't have to worry about being accused of winning at all :D This year that would not be the case :)

[ATannahill]

Making the lists took me like 10 minutes.
I simply searched the Fantasy First forums for every thread with my nickname + the possible booted persons nickname, and went over it with the lists i made for every regional.

And you don't have to worry about being accused of winning at all :D This year that would not be the case :)
Thats smart, I just copied all of the urls of my drafts into an excel file, didn't take much longer but it's a lot of blue links to make you dizzy.

[Barry Bonzack]

And you don't have to worry about being accused of winning at all :D This year that would not be the case :)

It is very hard to disagree with you this year. So far it looks like to me JackN should take home the Elgin Clock Award, but we shall wait and see.

I also have been searching the same way when others have dropped.

[Barry Bonzack]

I just wanted to make sure these are ALL active players, can someone verify? I show 27 people currently playing

340x4xlife
Alex Com
Arefin
Barry
Elgin
EricH
Greg
Hill
Indysam
JackN
Jessek
Jherbie
Jtdowney
Koko ed
Kristian
Liz smith
Michelle C
Nawaid
NickE
Oris
Pat Mc
Rocketperson
rtfgnow
Samsofa
Sunburn
Tottanka
Vikesrock

[Elgin Clock]

I wouldn't count on the random if i were you though... you could have made lists on your free time and send them instead of selecting during the draft.

There's an award named after me (I guess. lol I still have to laugh about that one kind of) because of a completely random pick a few years back.

Team 67 (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team.php?team=67) did quite well in Atlanta in 2005 & was a 3rd round random pick for me if I recall correctly. ;)
I like fate at times & not always spending a lot of time making a list that will just not be used because others pick the teams ahead of me on a certain night.
You can see why.

And, free time?!?!? What's that?
I'm lucky I'm here to pick in person as much as I am.

[ATannahill]

despite the typos that is correct, also excluding the people that might be kicked tonight.

[ATannahill]

so have we heard of jtdowney or Nawaid Ladak being active again?

[Elgin Clock]

MDec 29 Palmetto Regional(Koko Ed)
TDec 30 Sacramento Regional(Koko Ed), SBPLI Long Island Regional(Barry Bonzack)
WDec 31 Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional(Koko Ed)
FJan 2 Minnesota North Star Regional(Koko Ed)Remaining nights.

[Barry Bonzack]

For the Long Island draft, I have received pick lists from the following players:

Oris, Vikesrock, Sunburn, Tottanka, hill, Pat McCarthy, Jessek, EricH, rtfgnow, indysam, JackN

[Koko Ed]

so have we heard of jtdowney or Nawaid Ladak being active again?
They got their PMs.
It's up to them to respond by tomorrow night.

[Michelle Celio]

If its ok can I just have random for the last few? At the last minute it was decided I would be visiting some Kamens and I don't have time to make lists/live draft =[

[Koko Ed]

If its ok can I just have random for the last few? At the last minute it was decided I would be visiting some Kamens and I don't have time to make lists/live draft =[

Sure. Why not.

[Koko Ed]

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[Akash Rastogi]

Quick question: what are the point values of RCA and EI?

[ATannahill]

Quick question: what are the point values of RCA and EI?
I think 42 and 36 respectively.

[Barry Bonzack]

Long Island Randomizer (oy oy oy)

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[Tottanka]

What's the status of Jtdowney?

[Koko Ed]

What's the status of Jtdowney?

He's been online twice since I sent him the PM and hasn't even opened it yet and is currently offline.
It's looking bad for him right now.

[Alex Cormier]

He's been online twice since I sent him the PM and hasn't even opened it yet and is currently offline.
It's looking bad for him right now.

I go along with Barry, it's so late in the game. I would let them be.

[ATannahill]

Although he still should have responded, the email that you get when you get a pm has the contense of the pm in it.

[Greg Peshek]

I go along with Barry, it's so late in the game. I would let them be.

Thirded (not sure if that's a word, but you know what I mean) if it counts for anything.

[Barry Bonzack]

I stand on my old ground, but I do realize the need to maintain rules as rules. Others were kicked out, that were more active. It really isn't that hard to send in 5 teams for every draft, or just let us know that you'll take the randomizer on a few.

[Koko Ed]

I go along with Barry, it's so late in the game. I would let them be.

If that's the case then why not make exceptions for others? Stephi Rae was stuck in an airport for 18 hours and didn't have internet for days. Should I let her back in as well? What about others who were booted?
Rules are rules guys. if I make exceptions for one then I have to make exceptions for everyone!

[Barry Bonzack]

I beat ya, Ed, my draft is done fist :-P


Let us know when we can go scavenging

[Koko Ed]

Jtdowney is out.
Go to it!

[Alex Cormier]

Jtdowney is out.
Go to it!

Well... I have one sent out already. :P

[ATannahill]

thanks, will do.

[Tottanka]

wow...
in like 3 minutes his picks were all eaten!

heh...CD amazes me sometimes... OK..more than sometimes..

[Koko Ed]

wow...
in like 3 minutes his picks were all eaten!

heh...CD amazes me sometimes... OK..more than sometimes..

:rolleyes: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxw1EFcm3vw)(click the head)

[ATannahill]

Would have been faster if not for the 47 second break between posts, I am happy with what I got, anyone have any big problems for the teams?

[Elgin Clock]

:rolleyes: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxw1EFcm3vw)(click the head)

The phrases Kamen* babies & Kamen* food seems appropriate from that video. :cool:
FIRST is (Dean) Kamen's baby, while the teams were just treated like food by the players of these leagues.



*Yeah I know it's not spelled the same, but YAY for fun with phonetics! :p

[Koko Ed]

2503
2052
2500
2508
2470
2705
2879
3023
2509
2741
2532
2529
93
2227
2498
2502
2861
2957
2846
2989
2826
2518
2479
2062
1259
2450
2561
2855
3090
2847
2825
2987
2511
2531
2488
2181
1714
2264
2177
2501
2225
2545
2845
3082
2823
3081
2515
2530
2480
1986

[Kellen Hill]

The Troy draft for tier one will be rerun on the 2nd of January at 7pm due to a problem with the original draft. These are the league members that are in this tier:

Michelle Celio
hill
Sunbun
Elgin Clock
Nawaid Ladak
Vikesrock
340x4xLike
Liz Smith
Indysam

Please send me your pick lists if you haven't already made one for this competition. PM me if you have any questions.

[Elgin Clock]

The Troy draft for tier one will be rerun on the 2nd of January at 7pm due to a problem with the original draft. These are the league members that are in this tier:

Michelle Celio
hill
Sunbun
Elgin Clock
Nawaid Ladak
Vikesrock
340x4xLike
Liz Smith
Indysam

Please send me your pick lists if you haven't already made one for this competition. PM me if you have any questions.

Just give me randoms. I'll be in NH (preferably without any broken or bruised body parts after a long day of snowboarding - HA!) when you're running this.
There will be a nice window to trade teams out though after I get back including, but not limited to, Saturday night (Jan 3rd) though, correct?

[Koko Ed]

Just give me randoms. I'll be in NH (preferably without any broken or bruised body parts after a long day of snowboarding - HA!) when you're running this.
There will be a nice window to trade teams out though after I get back including, but not limited to, Saturday night (Jan 3rd) though, correct?

You can trade teams up to practice day of the regional.

[Elgin Clock]

Cool beans. I think I actually asked that before, but thanks Ed!

[Koko Ed]

878
2606
3100
3018
3102
2977
2549
2817
2401
2175
79
1816
2239
876
2667
3056
3116
2970
3007
2526
2472
2129
171
1716
877
2654
3058
2510
3054
2525
3036
2538
525
3042
3101
2883
2512
2169
2506
2207
2241
2499
648
2220
2491
2513
3026
3055
3109
3038
2535
2418
2143

[EricH]

I should be able to get the spreadsheet with all the teams up within a day or so, if I have the following picks:

Michelle Celio: FLR Tier 2, second pick. 1930 is not attending (Alex Cormier, source).

JackN, Lonestar Tier 2, second pick. I didn't get your list for that one.

Greg Peshek, Hawaii Tier 1, second pick; Vegas Tier 2, second pick. Both have a team picked twice.

NickE, 10000 Lakes Tier 2, third pick. No team is picked.

Of course, the MI Championship will be the Wednesday before Week 6. I might move it up an hour or so to allow for more trading time.

[ATannahill]

4 teams recently dropped out or got kicked, I do not have time to find out who.

[Greg Peshek]

I fixed the Hawaii double pick on the 26th, I'll do something about the Vegas one in a sec.

EDIT: It actually looks like Ed fixed the Vegas one back on the 27th.

So for your reference, I got 2520 for my second pick for Vegas and 2443 for my second pick on Hawaii

[EricH]

I fixed the Hawaii double pick on the 26th, I'll do something about the Vegas one in a sec.

EDIT: It actually looks like Ed fixed the Vegas one back on the 27th.

So for your reference, I got 2520 for my second pick for Vegas and 2443 for my second pick on Hawaii
That's probably the two days I wasn't paying attention due to work.

Michelle and Jack still need their picks. (Unless Ed got to those, too.)

[JesseK]

FYI, as of this morning team 1885 is no longer attending VCU (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=VA&year=2009&sort=teamnum). We will instead attend the Florida regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&menu=false&event=FL&year=2009&event_type=FRC).

[EricH]

FYI, as of this morning team 1885 is no longer attending VCU (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=VA&year=2009&sort=teamnum). We will instead attend the Florida regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&menu=false&event=FL&year=2009&event_type=FRC).Liz and Vikesrock, take note! You'll need to change your picks.

[JesseK]

Also, for the Florida picks I will wait until Sunday evening before I re-evalutate mine.

[EricH]

Attention all Season Long participants!

The official team lists are at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2188?

Please review your picks to ensure accuracy and that nobody else in your tier has them. Tiers are indicated by a "Tx", where x is between 1 and 4. If one of your teams is in bold text, there is a known issue--either they aren't there, or they are double-picked.

[Koko Ed]

Team 191 the X-Cats are no longer attending the Chesapeake Regional.

[EricH]

Team 191 the X-Cats are no longer attending the Chesapeake Regional.
Noted in the official (non-posted) sheet. Affected are Sunbun and Indysam.

Also, a .txt file has been added to the Excel file.

[JackN]

I should have 1511 instead of 211 in the FLR Tier 1 league.

[EricH]

Oversight on my part; it's taken care of.

This is why the list is published: 28 pairs of eyes can catch something much easier than 1 can.

[ATannahill]

on DC i should have 1522 not 1793 thx

[Vikesrock]

Liz and Vikesrock, take note! You'll need to change your picks.

Done. Thanks for letting us know Jesse!

[ATannahill]

Dallas Tier 1
1745 not 2943

[Kellen Hill]

For DC I traded 2377 for 181

[EricH]

rtfgnow and hill, I have those already.

Please use the official sheet when noting corrections; I have noted all trades that I am aware of already, whether or not the thread's list reflects them. If it's a posted request, it's been taken care of.

[ATannahill]

I only posted the ones that were wrong in the excel sheet

[EricH]

I only posted the ones that were wrong in the excel sheet
Really. So you want 2943 instead of 1745? I can fix that!

[Kellen Hill]

The sheet says I have 181 when i should have 2377

[EricH]

The sheet says I have 181 when i should have 2377That's not what the thread says... you had 2377 and traded them for 181.

The trade was carried out. You can trade back if you want, but try not to confuse me when you do.

The following is just before the trade
Not a problem Elgin.

PLAYER.............ROUND1......ROUND2.....ROUND3
Michelle Celio.......45.........611... ..........615
Elgin Clock.........339........2914.. ...........7
.JesseK............1731......401................. 709
NickE.................538.......587. ..............768
Jherbie53............234.......346.. .............2961
Tottanka.............365........1885.............. .1727
.jtdowney...........620........614...... ...........1900
hill....................357.......597..... ..........2377
SamSofa330........176.....449.... ..............3046
.rocketperson44...1418......1279 .................1793
EricH..................1629.....1712 ................1872

Koko Ed.................116.....272................3047
acdcfan259..........836.......181................1 699

TEAMS: 53
1123 1370 1849 1900 1915 2121 2199 2402 2421
2729 2819 2900 2911 2912 2913 2962 2963
2964

I would like to trade 2377 for 181

[ATannahill]

I was wrong, you gave me 2943 instead of the 1296 that I have.

I had 1296, 704, 2943, I switched 2943 for 1745, I checked your sheet and it says "T1, 1745, 704, 2943" it should say T1, 1745, 704, 1296"

heres a link to the last page of the thread http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70521&page=2

[EricH]

I was wrong, you gave me 2943 instead of the 1296 that I have.

I had 1296, 704, 2943, I switched 2943 for 1745, I checked your sheet and it says "T1, 1745, 704, 2943" it should say T1, 1745, 704, 1296"

heres a link to the last page of the thread http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70521&page=2Oh, OK. It's fixed now.

It looks like another version of the sheet will be posted at some point mid-build season, to account for the known issues.

[Kellen Hill]

I wrote down the wrong team for my lists, and i didn't notice that you had edited the previous post for the trade. Sorry about the mix up and I should have 181 not 2377.

[Vikesrock]

We have a bit of a problem with Waterloo. According to the list here (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=WAT&year=2009&sort=teamnum), there are now only 20 teams attending.

I didn't check the other tiers, but I know my tier (Tier 3) has 7 players.

[EricH]

We have a bit of a problem with Waterloo. According to the list here (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=WAT&year=2009&sort=teamnum), there are now only 20 teams attending.

I didn't check the other tiers, but I know my tier (Tier 3) has 7 players.And I looked into the other tiers to see if they had room for a player (if someone volunteered), but we can't move a player between tiers and redraft. I'll see who's affected by the shortage (besides everybody) tomorrow; I need my sleep now.

As a side note, I will release the full list again just after Ship Date. At this release, you will want to check your teams against the official lists and make changes as appropriate.

[Vikesrock]

I'll save you the legwork. It looks like every tier other than Tier 1 is currently short.

Tier 1
Alex Cormier has 1450, Jherbie53 has 2427, Michelle Celio has 2076
1219, 2013, 2185, 2634, and 3040 are still available

Tier 2
NickE has 2427, Sunbun has 1450, and Nawaid Ladak has 2076
2013 and 3040 are available

Tier 3
Oris has 1450 and JackN has 2427
3040 is still available

Tier 4
Tottanka has 2427 and 2076, and JesseK has 1450
2013 and 3040

[EricH]

I'll save you the legwork. It looks like every tier other than Tier 1 is currently short.

Tier 1
Alex Cormier has 1450, Jherbie53 has 2427, Michelle Celio has 2076
1219, 2013, 2185, 2634, and 3040 are still available

Tier 2
NickE has 2427, Sunbun has 1450, and Nawaid Ladak has 2076
2013 and 3040 are available

Tier 3
Oris has 1450 and JackN has 2427
3040 is still available

Tier 4
Tottanka has 2427 and 2076, and JesseK has 1450
2013 and 3040Ouch. I think what I'll say (for now) is that the first one(s) to speak up and choose a replacement team get that replacement team, and we'll go from there.

The other option (which I don't really want to do) is redraft with 5 tiers instead of 4. We'll see what Ed says.

[EricH]

Your attention please!

Yesterday, with CD down, I started wondering: What other events are missing teams? Well, I've got a lot of events, and a lot of missing teams. Sometimes, people are missing more than one team, too. (Elgin, this means YOUR Dallas alliance--none of them are on the list anymore.)

Within the next 24 hours or so, I'll post a list of who's missing what where. Once the list is posted, it is your responsibility to draft new teams before the lists are locked.

[EricH]

As promised, here is the list.

The following players need to replace any listed teams before the rosters are locked, for the reason that that team is not on the list anymore (unless otherwise noted):

Koko Ed: Washington DC, 3047; Oregon, 2971; San Diego, 3048, 1599; Dallas, 2352; Lansing, 2586
Tottanka: Oregon, 1346; San Diego, 2141; Los Angeles, 1156
Jherbie53: Oregon, 1294; Florida, 2955; Israel, 1949; VCU, 2988 double-picked; Seattle, 1130
SamSofa330: Oklahoma City, 425; Boston, 2371; SVR, 1560; Philly, 618; GTR, 286
rocketperson44: Finger Lakes, 87; Pittsburgh, 2010; Vegas, 968; Traverse, 94
EricH: Buckeye, 174; Midwest, 2939; Oklahoma City, 425; San Diego, 675; Florida, 2955; Wisconsin, 1077; St. Louis, 1793
NickE: Oklahoma City, 425; Florida, 2565; Philly, 618; Seattle, 1930
hill: NYC, 195; Pittsburgh, 2835; Kettering, 573
JesseK: San Diego, 2141; Florida, 2640, 2567; Peachtree, 1983; Traverse, 94
Michelle Celio: Midwest, 1770; Pittsburgh, 2835; SVR, 1560; Israel, 2257; Palmetto, 2023
Elgin Clock: Buckeye, 1626; Midwest, 3030; San Diego, 2272; Dallas, full alliance; Florida, 2568; Chesapeake, 2791
JackN: Dallas, 118; Los Angeles, 585; Chesapeake, 1866; LSR, 34 double-picked
Sunbun: LSR, 1710
Alex Cormier: Boston, 177; Oregon, 2591; NYC, 2753 double-picked; Dallas, 2937; Pittsburgh, 2010
Liz Smith: Dallas, 2352; Los Angeles, 585; LSR, 462
Pat McCarthy: Buckeye, 829 double-picked; Oklahoma City, 1863; Finger Lakes, 87; San Diego, 675
rtfgnow: Buckeye, 174; Israel, 2257
Barry Bonzack: San Diego, 675; Los Angeles, 1156; Vegas, 968; LSR, 1710
Indysam: Buckeye, 2166; Oklahoma City, 1468; Pittsburgh, 2010; Kettering, 573
Arefin Bari: San Diego, 1120; Florida, 2565; Peachtree, 2983; Traverse, 94
Kristian Calhoun: Buckeye, 1075; San Diego, 3048; NYC, 195; Detroit, 2226
340x4xLife: Bayou, 2978; LSR, 462; Traverse, 835
Oris: Boston, 177; Dallas, 2004
Greg Peshek: San Diego, 2272; Dallas, 2004
Nawaid Ladak: Buckeye, 2166; NYC, 2170; Dallas, 2376; Florida, 2567; Palmetto, 2023; Lansing, 2586

Waterloo is listed above. If you’re on that list, add your missing teams there to your list of teams to replace here.

NOTE: I think some of the teams are simply mis-typed, somewhere along the line. However, I am not totally sure which ones are simple typing errors and which are definitely not coming. If it's a simple mistype, just drop me a PM and I'll take care of it immediately. Please make any changes before Ship Date; if you have not made changes by then, I will remind you once.


Teams that are not replaced by the time the rosters for their week are locked will be replaced by a random team!


Incidentally, at one point, everyone was on the list. Then Vikesrock replaced the missing teams on his list.

[ATannahill]

Is this based on the threads or your excel file?

also do you know if any of these teams were removed from the season totally?

[EricH]

Is this based on the threads or your excel file?The Excel file and the FIRST website. I have done my best to make sure that the Excel file is current to the threads. As in, if I saw a FF thread on the portal during the drafting/trading season, I checked it against the spreadsheet, and changed the spreadsheet accordingly. The version I have now is different than the posted one, due to recent changes and the massive check I just did.

As for the other question, I've seen several of them in other events--my guess is that most of the teams decided they couldn't afford to go to another event and dropped one. The exception would be 118 and Dallas--they're going to DC instead, I think. I don't really know or care if they've been dropped totally, at least for FF purposes.

[Jherbie53]

I believe I've got trade requests for all of my missing team.

[EricH]

I believe I've got trade requests for all of my missing team.
Not quite--Waterloo still needs a trade.

As a reminder, Waterloo has its own list.

And any trade requests will be taken care of in the sheet, even if they aren't shown in the thread.

[ATannahill]

How long after ship day will the list for week 1 regionals lock?

[EricH]

How long after ship day will the list for week 1 regionals lock?
All lists lock when announced; usually early morning of the practice day for the event. So the real question is, how long after ship date do the Week 1 regionals start? (No, I don't keep track of that very much...)

[EricH]

Now that the list is more manageable, I'm going to integrate the Waterloo list.

Koko Ed: Washington DC, 3047; Oregon, 2971; San Diego, 3048, 1599; Dallas, 2352; Lansing, 2586
Tottanka: Oregon, 1346; San Diego, 2141; Los Angeles, 1156; Waterloo, 2427, 2076 (no replacement currently available)
Jherbie53: Waterloo, 2427
SamSofa330: Oklahoma City, 425; Boston, 2371; SVR, 1560; Philly, 618; GTR, 286
rocketperson44: Finger Lakes, 87; Pittsburgh, 2010; Vegas, 968; Traverse, 94
NickE: Oklahoma City, 425; Florida, 2565; Philly, 618; Waterloo, 2427
JesseK: San Diego, 2141; Florida, 2640, 2567; Peachtree, 1983; Traverse, 94; Waterloo, 1450
Michelle Celio: Midwest, 1770; Pittsburgh, 2835; SVR, 1560; Israel, 2257; Palmetto, 2023; L.A., 702 double-picked
Elgin Clock: Buckeye, 1626; Midwest, 3030; San Diego, 2272; Dallas, full alliance; Florida, 2568; Chesapeake, 2791
JackN: Dallas, 118; Los Angeles, 585; Chesapeake, 1866; LSR, 34 double-picked; Waterloo, 2427 (no replacement currently available)
Alex Cormier: Boston, 177; Oregon, 2591; NYC, 2753 double-picked; Dallas, 2937; Pittsburgh, 2010; Waterloo, 1450
Liz Smith: Dallas, 2352; Los Angeles, 585; LSR, 462
Pat McCarthy: Buckeye, 829 double-picked; Oklahoma City, 1863; Finger Lakes, 87; San Diego, 675
Barry Bonzack: San Diego, 675; Los Angeles, 1156; Vegas, 968; LSR, 1710
Arefin Bari: San Diego, 1120; Florida, 2565; Peachtree, 2983; Traverse, 94
Kristian Calhoun: Buckeye, 1075; San Diego, 3048; NYC, 195; Detroit, 2226
340x4xLife: Bayou, 2978; LSR, 462; Traverse, 835
Oris: Boston, 177; Dallas, 2004
Greg Peshek: San Diego, 2272; Dallas, 2004
Nawaid Ladak: Buckeye, 2166; NYC, 2170; Dallas, 2376; Florida, 2567; Palmetto, 2023; Lansing, 2586; Waterloo, 2076

NOTE: I think some of the teams are simply mis-typed, somewhere along the line. However, I am not totally sure which ones are simple typing errors and which are definitely not coming. If it's a simple mistype, just drop me a PM and I'll take care of it immediately. Please make any changes before Ship Date; if you have not made changes by then, I will remind you once.

Edit: I've found some mistypes. A good indicator is if you're the only one in a draft that has to change a team that isn't there...

[Sunbun]

Sunbun: Waterloo, 1450


swapped 1450 for 3040 this morning. thanks

[Tottanka]

im ok with the randoms.

[Barry Bonzack]

Fixed mine. Thanks for checking all of theses, Eric. I know we are responsible for our own teams, and this is going above and beyond what you are required to do. I usually check the week before the regionals to make sure all of my teams are still participating, I wouldn't have known about this until march

[EricH]

Just to keep the list current...


Tottanka:Waterloo, 2076 (no replacement currently available)
Jherbie53: Waterloo, 2427
SamSofa330: Oklahoma City, 425; Boston, 2371; SVR, 1560; Philly, 618; GTR, 286
rocketperson44: Finger Lakes, 87; Pittsburgh, 2010; Vegas, 968; Traverse, 94
JesseK: San Diego, 2141; Florida, 2640, 2567; Peachtree, 1983; Traverse, 94; Waterloo, 1450
Michelle Celio: Midwest, 1770; Pittsburgh, 2835; SVR, 1560; Israel, 2257; Palmetto, 2023; L.A., 702 double-picked
Elgin Clock: Buckeye, 1626; Midwest, 3030; San Diego, 2272; Dallas, full alliance; Florida, 2568; Chesapeake, 2791
JackN: Dallas, 118; Los Angeles, 585; Chesapeake, 1866; LSR, 34 double-picked; Waterloo, 2427 (no replacement currently available)
Alex Cormier: Boston, 177; Oregon, 2591; NYC, 2753 double-picked; Dallas, 2937; Pittsburgh, 2010; Waterloo, 1450
Liz Smith: Dallas, 2352; Los Angeles, 585; LSR, 462
Pat McCarthy: Oklahoma City, 1863; Finger Lakes, 87; San Diego, 675
Arefin Bari: San Diego, 1120; Florida, 2565; Peachtree, 2983; Traverse, 94
Kristian Calhoun: Buckeye, 1075; San Diego, 3048; NYC, 195; Detroit, 2226
340x4xLife: Bayou, 2978; LSR, 462; Traverse, 835
Oris: Boston, 177; Dallas, 2004
Nawaid Ladak: Buckeye, 2166; NYC, 2170; Dallas, 2376; Florida, 2567; Palmetto, 2023; Lansing, 2586; Waterloo, 2076

For those that don't have a replacement in a tier, you're the first in line to get one if another team shows up. Though I'd kind of like to know how to score it if no team shows up.

[Elgin Clock]

Oh gg... Yay no Dallas picks for me huh? :eek:
I'll have to peek at my selection problems when I get a chance.
Crazy!!! :ahh:

[EricH]

Oh gg... Yay no Dallas picks for me huh? :eek:
I'll have to peek at my selection problems when I get a chance.
Crazy!!! :ahh: Unless there was a simple mistype, 118 went to DC instead and the other two simply dropped. I was surprised too.

[EricH]

Waterloo now has more teams! Come one, come all to get them! (Sorry, no 1114 yet.)

Oh, and there's been one more drop there. 854 is no longer listed.[Edit] More than one. Thanks for spotting that, Greg.

Koko Ed: Waterloo, 854
Jherbie53: Waterloo, 2427
SamSofa330: Oklahoma City, 425; Boston, 2371; SVR, 1560; Philly, 618; GTR, 286
rocketperson44: Vegas, 968; Traverse, 94
JesseK: San Diego, 2141; Florida, 2640, 2567; Peachtree, 1983; Traverse, 94; Waterloo, 854, 1450
Michelle Celio: Midwest, 1770; Pittsburgh, 2835; SVR, 1560; Israel, 2257; Palmetto, 2023; L.A., 702 double-picked; Waterloo, full alliance
Elgin Clock: Buckeye, 1626; Midwest, 3030; San Diego, 2272; Dallas, full alliance; Florida, 2568; Chesapeake, 2791
JackN: Dallas, 118; Los Angeles, 585; Chesapeake, 1866; LSR, 34 double-picked; Waterloo, 2427, 2809
Sunbun: Waterloo, 854
Alex Cormier: Boston, 177; Oregon, 2591; NYC, 2753 double-picked; Dallas, 2937; Pittsburgh, 2010; Waterloo, 1450
Liz Smith: Dallas, 2352; Los Angeles, 585; LSR, 462
Pat McCarthy: Oklahoma City, 1863; Finger Lakes, 87; San Diego, 675
Barry Bonzack: Waterloo, 2809
Arefin Bari: San Diego, 1120; Florida, 2565; Peachtree, 2983; Traverse, 94
Kristian Calhoun: Buckeye, 1075; San Diego, 3048; NYC, 195; Detroit, 2226
340x4xLife: Bayou, 2978; LSR, 462; Traverse, 835
Oris: Boston, 177; Dallas, 2004
Nawaid Ladak: Buckeye, 2166; NYC, 2170; Dallas, 2376; Florida, 2567; Palmetto, 2023; Lansing, 2586; Waterloo, 2076

There should be enough teams in Waterloo now for everyone in all the tiers.

As a reminder, if you don't replace your missing teams before the lists are locked, you will get a random team. If you tell me now that you want a random team, I'll take care of it.

[Sunbun]

I'll take random for Waterloo

[Barry Bonzack]

2634 and 2427 is also no longer attending waterloo. In tier 2 this effects Nawaid and NickE respectively. I have not checked the other tiers.

2076 is attending waterloo, so Nawaid is safe with that one.
854 looks like they are also listed again for waterloo.

[EricH]

2634 and 2427 is also no longer attending waterloo. In tier 2 this effects Nawaid and NickE respectively. I have not checked the other tiers.

2076 is attending waterloo, so Nawaid is safe with that one.
854 looks like they are also listed again for waterloo.The only one affected in the other tiers is SamSofa330, AFAIK

[EricH]

I have just posted an updated list in CD-Media at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2212?

Please, please, check your teams. A number of you still have known draft issues. If you just want random teams, that's just fine; let me know so I can deal with it before I have to score the event.

If you can't read it, let me know and I'll tell you which events you have issues in.

I may or may not do final checks the week(ends) before each event, so from this point on, your teams are your responsibility to watch for.

[Alex Cormier]

Randomize please!

[EricH]

Randomize please!
Randomized.

[JesseK]

Hit me with that randomizer!

Thanks Ed, Eric, and others who have helped put this season on!

[JackN]

EricH/Ed according to the sheet it says that i have team 1866, when i actually have team 1886 who is attending

[Koko Ed]

EricH/Ed according to the sheet it says that i have team 1866, when i actually have team 1886 who is attending

Which regional is that, Jack?

[EricH]

Chesapeake. I fixed it.

[EricH]

Hello, Fantasy FIRSTers!

With less than one week before the Week One drafts lock, six people have yet to choose replacements for missing teams in the week. The scoring staff (me) would greatly appreciate your choosing replacements before the drafts lock.

If you have any of the following teams at the listed events, please either choose a new team or let me know that you want a random team. If you say that you want random, I will apply that to all missing teams that you have unless otherwise specified. No response will get you a random team for the event in question to replace the missing team. You will not be notified of which team you get until the list is re-released.

Week 1:
Buckeye: 1626, 1075, 2166
Midwest: 1770, 3030
Oklahoma City: 425, 1863

Reminder: The Michigan Championship will draft April 1. This is to allow the maximum time for teams to say they are coming. The tier lists will probably be released during the Week 5 events.

I will release the scores each week, if I have internet access. I will be traveling around the time of Week 2/Week 3, but should still be able to post scores and issues.

[EricH]

Week 1:
Buckeye: 1626, 1075, 2166
Midwest: 1770, 3030
Oklahoma City: 425, 1863

Add Traverse City: 94, 835

I know that one of the people with 94 has already picked up another team.

[NickE]

Randomize for Waterloo

i dont think there are any other issues...

[EricH]

Randomize for Waterloo

i dont think there are any other issues...Randomized and no other issues.

[GODUX123]

So where's the Traverse City list?

[EricH]

In the posts titled "Traverse City Tier X". Or on the FIRST website, under FRC events->Michigan Districts.

You don't have to worry; you personally aren't participating in the Season Long Fantasy FIRST last I checked.

[ATannahill]

Does anyone know when the list of teams attending an event gets locked?

[Koko Ed]

Does anyone know when the list of teams attending an event gets locked?

Wednesday night.

[ATannahill]

I meant a page like https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort=teamnum&year=2009&event=XX not our draft lists.

[EricH]

I meant a page like https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort=teamnum&year=2009&event=XX not our draft lists.
Theoretically, those are already locked. There are ways to change events/drop out at the last minute, though. It has been the case that a registered team didn't show up for whatever reason and didn't drop out before the last second.

If it's the Wednesday before the event, it's pretty safe to say the list is locked. That's why we lock ours the Wednesday night before the event.

[Barry Bonzack]

although you all still have a couple weeks to worry about it, every may want to be aware that 1251 informed me they have dropped the Palmetto Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=SC&year=2009&sort=teamnum)

[Elgin Clock]

Any week one regionals of mine need editing?
Let me know soon & I'll pick them.

If not, then let me know what I need to fix/change for any other weeks.

Thanks!

[Vikesrock]

although you all still have a couple weeks to worry about it, every may want to be aware that 1251 informed me they have dropped the Palmetto Regional (https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&event=SC&year=2009&sort=teamnum)

Thanks for the heads up Barry!

[EricH]

Any week one regionals of mine need editing?
Let me know soon & I'll pick them.

If not, then let me know what I need to fix/change for any other weeks.

Thanks!Buckeye and Midwest (Week 1) are each missing one team, along with San Diego, Dallas (full alliance... ouch), Florida, and Chesapeake.

[Koko Ed]

All week one rosters are now locked (if you have not picked a replacement for non attending teams you will be randomly assigned one).
Good luck to all participants!

[EricH]

All week one rosters are now locked (if you have not picked a replacement for non attending teams you will be randomly assigned one).Random teams have been assigned. If you don't like the team you got, figure out if you have any issues in upcoming weeks and act accordingly.

(I did it this fast because a) replacing them while scoring is a pain in the rear, b) it's faster this way, and c) I got a hectic enough week next week...)

[Vikesrock]

Alright, I got the team scoring done except for a few things.

Buckeye second day awards and tournament results don't seem to be up.

I'm not sure which teams the WFA's at NJ or OK are from.

The last thing is, are wins/losses only counted from Quals or are Elims included as well? Right now I have it as only from Quals.

[EricH]

Alright, I got the team scoring done except for a few things.

Buckeye second day awards and tournament results don't seem to be up.

I'm not sure which teams the WFA's at NJ or OK are from.

The last thing is, are wins/losses only counted from Quals or are Elims included as well? Right now I have it as only from Quals.
Total W/L/T record. TBA calculates that automatically, IIRC.

Just for grins, I did my teams for the week. I'm pleasantly surprised--either I was over 50 points per event or I had negative.

[Vikesrock]

Total W/L/T record. TBA calculates that automatically, IIRC.

Just for grins, I did my teams for the week. I'm pleasantly surprised--either I was over 50 points per event or I had negative.

Alright, I'll change that over. As I started doing that I noticed that the BAE finals are not posted right, I am fairly certain that it is just missing a match that was won by the 121 alliance and I will enter it this way.

[Vikesrock]

Alright, Excel sheet has been upped here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

I left Buckeye blank because of all the missing info and I still don't know what team the WFA from OK is from.

EDIT: Thanks Akash!

PS. I'm loving the 253 pt. performance by my DC alliance.

[Akash Rastogi]

Alright, Excel sheet has been upped here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

I left Buckeye blank because of all the missing info and I still don't know what teams the WFA's from NJ and OK are from.

The mentor for NJ is currently on team 2180.

[EricH]

I would like to remind all participants to check their own lists against everyone else's in their tier. Sometimes it happens that a team is double-picked and people who notice issues (all of you) miss it. This happened in BAE Tier 1, and was only noticed during scoring (i.e., about 5 minutes ago).

When this happens, I don't like my alternatives: ignore it or give a random team that may or may not be better. I will usually grab the first team that isn't picked off the random list, no matter the reason they aren't picked. The random team will always go to the second person to get the double-picked team. This random team may be worse than the team you had! This was the case in BAE.

Any replaced teams will not be posted; however, they will be in bold when the score sheets come out each week. They will then revert to normal text the next week.

Edit: I am also removing tier indicators from events that have been completed.

Edit #2: You know how Barry was saying that he found it ironic that he was the standard and was struggling, a few months ago? He's in first by about 40 points right now. Then again, 7 players are within 100 points. The real irony is who's currently in last. Hint: the award for the top player after regionals are done is named for him.

Then again, I've only done 3 events, and Buckeye isn't ready yet.

[Tottanka]

looks like before BuckEYE results, i have 437 - i can say im pleased, even though my awesome 3 NJ picks were ranked low (25,1676,522...who saw that coming...i guess EricH :D)

[EricH]

Update: Pre-OKC and Buckeye scoring, Vikesrock is in the lead by almost 100 points over Barry, who has another 100 points on me, and after that, it gets into a battleground with Alex in 4th and Ed in 5th.

I have asked CDers for help on the Buckeye Saturday awards, as well as the team of the OKC WFFA winner. I expect to finish either later tonight (much later) or sometime tomorrow.

Edit: I've gotten a fair piece into the Buckeye scoring. About the only thing I have left is the awards. That could take a while. I won't finish scoring until I have all the data... Worst comes to worst, I release the scoring sheet missing 2 events, which are either added later or ignored.

[Kellen Hill]

I'm sitting at 448 before the Buckeye scores. Hopefully consistent scores keep me in this. I'm happy about having my team for Wisconsin in week 3. I just wish I had my team for Midwest. Oh well

[Fireworks 234]

FYI the buckeye awards are up http://www2.usfirst.org/2009comp/events/OH/awards.html

Just thought you guys might want to know.

[EricH]

FYI the buckeye awards are up http://www2.usfirst.org/2009comp/events/OH/awards.html

Just thought you guys might want to know.Thanks.

Also, I got the OKC WFFA winner's team: 932.

Scoring should be done later tonight.

[EricH]

The score sheet is at: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221

Pay attention to this: I have highlighted issues. If your name is on the following list, you need to look at the spreadsheet and pick new teams before Wednesday's draft locking to avoid random teams!

Tottanka
SamSofa330
rocketperson44
Elgin Clock
Pat McCarthy
rtfgnow
Barry Bonzack
Arefin Bari
Kristian Calhoun
Oris
Nawaid Ladak

And now, the short version of the scores:

Player Grand total
Vikesrock 773
Barry Bonzack 637
Alex Cormier 602
Oris 567
JackN 528
Tottanka 527
NickE 496
Pat McCarthy 474
Kristian Calhoun 468
hill 454
340x4xLife 453
EricH 448
rocketperson44 436
Greg Peshek 436
Koko Ed 415
Indysam 349
SamSofa330 340
Liz Smith 336
JesseK 326
Jherbie53 310
rtfgnow 306
Michelle Celio 261
Sunbun 253
Nawaid Ladak 240
Arefin Bari 231
Elgin Clock 223

EDIT: Oris, you need to pick another 2nd pick in FLR. Yeah, I just found the double pick.

[Elgin Clock]

The real irony is who's currently in last. Hint: the award for the top player after regionals are done is named for him.

Yeah... great... thanks for the unofficial shout-out! lol :p :o
Aye... Lunacy changes everything you know about FIRST games.
Case in point... this ranking... among a lot of other things - regional winners (and who's lost this season so far) being a close second.

[Koko Ed]

The score sheet is at: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221

Pay attention to this: I have highlighted issues. If your name is on the following list, you need to look at the spreadsheet and pick new teams before Wednesday's draft locking to avoid random teams!

Tottanka
SamSofa330
rocketperson44
Elgin Clock
Pat McCarthy
rtfgnow
Barry Bonzack
Arefin Bari
Kristian Calhoun
Oris
Nawaid Ladak

And now, the short version of the scores:

Player Grand total
Vikesrock 773
Barry Bonzack 637
Alex Cormier 602
Oris 567
JackN 528
Tottanka 527
NickE 496
Pat McCarthy 474
Kristian Calhoun 468
hill 454
340x4xLife 453
EricH 448
rocketperson44 436
Greg Peshek 436
Koko Ed 415
Indysam 349
SamSofa330 340
Liz Smith 336
JesseK 326
Jherbie53 310
rtfgnow 306
Michelle Celio 261
Sunbun 253
Nawaid Ladak 240
Arefin Bari 231
Elgin Clock 223

EDIT: Oris, you need to pick another 2nd pick in FLR. Yeah, I just found the double pick.
Eric can you post the scores to Buckeye, please.

[EricH]

Eric can you post the scores to Buckeye, please.
They'll be in the same place as the rest of the scores..

[Koko Ed]

They'll be in the same place as the rest of the scores..

Thanks.
I want to make a FF top 25 list.

[JackN]

250 points back after week one, getting nothing from OKC and getting a lot less than expected from NJ and KC I am feeling fairly confident. I am extremely impressed by Vikesrock throwing 773 on the board after week 1. I am sure everyone will be playing catchup all season.

[Koko Ed]

250 points back after week one, getting nothing from OKC and getting a lot less than expected from NJ and KC I am feeling fairly confident. I am extremely impressed by Vikesrock throwing 773 on the board after week 1. I am sure everyone will be playing catchup all season.

Barry is too close for comfort.
Let's see what happens week 2.

[Alex Cormier]

I am happy and surprised. :)

[Vikesrock]

I'm sure I'll start falling back to the pack soon enough. I got really lucky to get 45, 234 and 118 for DC and both 111 and 217 for Midwest. 2753 carried NJ for me.

I'm not particularly confidant about my picks for next week so we'll see how it goes.

[EricH]

Real quick: Alex and Pat, you each lost 39 in San Diego.

[Alex Cormier]

Real quick: Alex and Pat, you each lost 39 in San Diego.

I saw that today. Give me the best random.

[EricH]

I saw that today. Give me the best random.
In this case, 1828.

[ATannahill]

Alex, I got to ask, what is a good random?

[Alex Cormier]

Alex, I got to ask, what is a good random?

Well... if it's not the best, then when the regionals are over he will give me the best. ya see now?

[Pat McCarthy]

I'll take the best or second best random, like Alex (I'm too lazy to check if we're in the same tier).

[EricH]

I'll take the best or second best random, like Alex (I'm too lazy to check if we're in the same tier).
If you're both missing 39, you aren't. You'll actually get the 2 best randoms that remain, as 675 isn't there either.

Edit: Make those randoms 2193 and 2543.

[EricH]

Seeing as Ed hasn't locked the drafts yet, and it's late Wednesday night...

All Week 2 drafts are now locked! Missing teams will be replaced with random teams; expect the replacements to be up tomorrow night, or with the full sheet.

Good luck to all participants!

[EricH]

The list of random replacement teams by event:

Player, Tier, old team->new team

San Diego:
Kristian Calhoun, T2, 3048->2827
Barry Bonzack, T2, 2102->1527
Arefin Bari, T2, 1120->1972

FLR:
Tottanka, T1, 2166->2791
Pat McCarthy, T2, 87->2791
NickE, T2, 3003->771

Boston:
SamSofa330, T2, 2371->2888

NYC:
Kristian Calhoun, T2, 195->358
Nawaid Ladak, T2, 2170->1635

[Barry Bonzack]

man, this is the first time I check chiefdelphi since last saturday. You mean I'm not winning? That un-possible 0.o

[Tottanka]

wow i'm lookin' good!

CA in boston, CA,rookie all srat and finalist in FLR, QF,SF,2nd seed, 8th seed, for SDC (not over yet), and also looking good in Oregon!

[Tottanka]

wow i'm lookin' good!

CA in boston,QF QF Finalist in Kattering, CA and finalist in FLR, QF SF 2nd seed & 8th seed for SDC (not over yet), and also looking good in Oregon!

[Vikesrock]

I've got everything scored up through Oregon (for teams). When it's finished up I'll score that one then update the sheet I posted last week.

[Vikesrock]

Alright the sheet I posted last week is now updated through week 2 except NY for anyone that wants to check out how they're doing.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

EDIT: I scored me and Barry real quick and Barry closed the gap to 26pts. if I got everything right

[Tottanka]

Alright the sheet I posted last week is now updated through week 2 except NY for anyone that wants to check out how they're doing.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

EDIT: I scored me and Barry real quick and Barry closed the gap to 26pts. if I got everything right
you mind saying how much that is?

[Vikesrock]

I'm at 1139 and Barry is at 1113 if I entered everything right.

[EricH]

I'll try to score Week 2 tomorrow, other than NYC. No guarantees on time, though. Tuesday at latest. Having the scoring ready this fast really helps.

[Vikesrock]

The teams scoring sheet has been updated to include NYC.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

EDIT: Sorry to say Barry that NYC erased any gains you made this week and I'm now ahead of you by more than I was last week

[Barry Bonzack]

I appreciate everyone's effort in scoring, I have been mad busy lately. I'm surprised I am closing the gap instead of widening it, I feel like I've had some regionals where all three of my picks didn't even make it in eliminations.

I'm betting Vikerock's name will be on the Elgin Clock Award this year, he is putting more effort into updating his pick list week to week.

[EricH]

I'm still scoring Week 2 (having a long competition with no time to spare will do that to you), but I am going to post the Week 3 issues list. And it's a large one...

SamSofa330, SVR 3rd pick
Michelle Celio, LA 2nd pick, Pittsburgh & SVR 3rd picks, Israel 2nd pick
Elgin Clock, Dallas all picks, Florida 2nd pick
Liz Smith, Dallas 1st pick, LA 2nd pick
Arefin Bari, Florida 1st pick, Peachtree 3rd pick
Nawaid Ladak, Dallas & Florida 3rd picks

Once again, if you haven't picked a replacement for a missing team, one will be chosen for you from the random list.

[JesseK]

In conjunction with my Java OPR GUI, I'm going to work on an automated scoring mechanism for FF. (Man I love OOD) I should be able to test it by Week 6, so maybe we can automate it via Twitter or CD-Spy when the Championships arrive.

[EricH]

In conjunction with my Java OPR GUI, I'm going to work on an automated scoring mechanism for FF. (Man I love OOD) I should be able to test it by Week 6, so maybe we can automate it via Twitter or CD-Spy when the Championships arrive.There is one, but I haven't set it up yet. Partly because I'm not quite sure how.

Just to be clear, I'm scoring the participants, not the teams. I have 3 events left for the week; next week's should be faster.

[Greg Peshek]

I was looking through the FF pick sheet and realized that I have 2520 for both the Hawaii and Vegas regionals in the same week. Now I would be thoroughly impressed if they could do that, however.. I think there was just a clerical error along the way, I should have 2443 for Hawaii instead of 2520. So if that could be fixed on whatever master sheet there is, that'd be awesome.

[EricH]

Good catch, Greg.

I'll have the current sheet up shortly, soon as I check on a couple of teams and make corrections as needed.

Also: The scoring sheet that Vikesrock posted is incorrect for the Oregon regional seeding points. To fix: Select the entire sheet and sort by seed, lowest to highest. Then apply the following points:

20 for the 1st seed
12 for 2nd and 3rd
6 for the rest of the top 8
3 for 9th -12th
2 for 13th-16th
0 for everybody else.

This is the only problem I've seen so far, and it looks like a simple mis-selection somewhere in the sorting process.

[EricH]

Full details are in the same place as last time. Breaking news is, it looks like Barry is now in the lead by 18 points over Vikesrock.

Player Score
Barry Bonzack 1120
Vikesrock 1102
Alex Cormier 944
Tottanka 861
JackN 832
Pat McCarthy 801
Kristian Calhoun 796
NickE 738
Oris 700
340x4xLife 688
rocketperson44 681
EricH 681
Liz Smith 673
Indysam 651
hill 599
Sunbun 597
Jherbie53 589
rtfgnow 573
Elgin Clock 556
JesseK 547
Greg Peshek 525
Koko Ed 516
Michelle Celio 458
Arefin Bari 433
SamSofa330 366
Nawaid Ladak 308

[Vikesrock]

Heh, you scared me there for a second Eric. On the Master Score sheet I have 340x4xLife's Week2 score. My score needs to go there and each player below me needs the proper score as well

Actual standings

Vikesrock 1242
Barry Bonzack 1120
Alex Cormier 944
Tottanka 861
JackN 832
Pat McCarthy 801
Kristian Calhoun 796
340x4xLife 786
Oris 779
NickE 738
rocketperson44 681
EricH 681
Liz Smith 673
Indysam 651
Greg Peshek 621
hill 599
Sunbun 597
Jherbie53 589
rtfgnow 573
Elgin Clock 556
JesseK 547
Koko Ed 516
Michelle Celio 458
Arefin Bari 433
SamSofa330 366
Nawaid Ladak 341


Sorry about the Oregon error, I know how it happened and I'll try to make sure I check that before posting next time. I've fixed my copy, but don't have time to upload it right now.

[EricH]

Heh, you scared me there for a second Eric. On the Master Score sheet I have 340x4xLife's Week2 score. My score needs to go there and each player below me needs the proper score as well

Actual standings

Vikesrock 1242
Barry Bonzack 1120
Alex Cormier 944
Tottanka 861
JackN 832
Pat McCarthy 801
Kristian Calhoun 796
340x4xLife 786
Oris 779
NickE 738
rocketperson44 681
EricH 681
Liz Smith 673
Indysam 651
Greg Peshek 621
hill 599
Sunbun 597
Jherbie53 589
rtfgnow 573
Elgin Clock 556
JesseK 547
Koko Ed 516
Michelle Celio 458
Arefin Bari 433
SamSofa330 366
Nawaid Ladak 341
Sorry about the Oregon error, I know how it happened and I'll try to make sure I check that before posting next time. I've fixed my copy, but don't have time to upload it right now.Heh. I somehow had the score-grabber skipping a step. I've checked the others and will uploaded the correct version.

[Vikesrock]

OK, here's where I'm at with the team scores for week 3.

Israel is not up yet.
Peachtree standings aren't up.

WFFA teams are missing for Dallas, WI, and LA

Rookie Inspiration missing from Dallas.

I'll post what I have for now in the same spot as before

[Alex Cormier]

I'll post what I have for now in the same spot as before

The team rankings for GA is available on the SOAP gameday (http://gameday.mttkllr.com/) site.

Where do you usually post? i want to see if i moved up this week. ;P

EDIT/ Never mind, I found it. 354 points this week without counting my EI and others from GA. Wahoo.

[Vikesrock]

Thanks Alex! Peachtree has been added

The sheet is here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

[Sunbun]

WFFA teams are missing for Dallas, WI, and LA


WFFA for L.A. is Team 1197 (total coincidence).

[Alex Cormier]

Thanks Alex! Peachtree has been added

The sheet is here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219

before peachtree:

Barry: 505
Vikes: 631
Me: 354

boo... :p

[Kellen Hill]

I got 415 this week from my calculations

I'm not seeing 2835 for Pittsburgh though. Did they not attend?

[Tottanka]

i did 646 this week. WOOHOO!

(beat ya Alex :P)

and i am missing a pick for Dallas...where is 2981?

[Vikesrock]

and i am missing a pick for Dallas...where is 2981?
They are still on the team list, but they aren't on the match list so I guess they didn't show up


I'm not seeing 2835 for Pittsburgh though. Did they not attend?
Nope they are only listed as going to Buckeye so they must have pulled out.

[Tottanka]

They are still on the team list, but they aren't on the match list so I guess they didn't show up


Nope they are only listed as going to Buckeye so they must have pulled out.

OK, what do we do about a no show?

[EricH]

OK, what do we do about a no show?
I give a random team in place of the no show. Depending on how thorough I'm in the mood for, it could be the next team on the official random list or simply a team from the list, provided they're showing up. What the team is won't be announced, but they will be bolded on the spreadsheet, which again will show up sometime either tomorrow or Tuesday, with Tuesday more likely due to homework.

[EricH]

The Week 4 list of folks who need to replace teams is as follows:

SamSofa330, Philly 1st, Waterloo 2nd
Elgin Clock, Chesapeake 1st
Indysam, Waterloo 2nd
Kristian Calhoun, Detroit 2nd
340x4xLife, Bayou 3rd
Nawaid Ladak, Waterloo 1st, Lansing 1st

[EricH]

The Week 3 score sheet is at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221 as usual.

The following need to replace teams for Week 4:
SamSofa330, Philly 1st, Waterloo 2nd
Indysam, Waterloo 2nd
Kristian Calhoun, Detroit 2nd
340x4xLife, Bayou 3rd

The scores are:
Barry Bonzack 1708
Vikesrock 1681
Tottanka 1529
JackN 1412
Alex Cormier 1378
Oris 1292
Greg Peshek 1245
Kristian Calhoun 1129
Liz Smith 1128
Indysam 1126
EricH 1106
rtfgnow 1051
rocketperson44 1050
hill 1010
Sunbun 987
Pat McCarthy 949
Jherbie53 931
340x4xLife 926
NickE 848
JesseK 811
Koko Ed 787
Elgin Clock 768
Michelle Celio 753
Arefin Bari 752
SamSofa330 583
Nawaid Ladak 541Edit: I forgot to add that the RIS in Dallas and the WFFAs in Dallas and Wisconsin have been tracked down. They are 2817, 647, and 537, respectively. This has been accounted for in the scoring already.

[Barry Bonzack]

Oink-Oink-BOOMSHOCKALOCKA

[JackN]

My only goal at this point is to beat Alex, come on baby keep it going.

[Vikesrock]

Edit: I forgot to add that the RIS in Dallas and the WFFAs in Dallas and Wisconsin have been tracked down. They are 2817, 647, and 537, respectively. This has been accounted for in the scoring already.

I have also added them to the team scoring sheet and was just coming here to post that it has been updated. I'm on Spring Break so the sheet will probably be updated with Israel shortly after results are posted for that event.

Nice work tracking me down Barry, I knew I hadn't built up nearly enough of a lead to feel safe. These MI events are killing me, hopefully I can get some points back there next week with 65,66 and 201 at Detroit and 67 over at Lansing.

[IndySam]

The Week 3 score sheet is at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2221 as usual.

The following need to replace teams for Week 4:
[FONT=Verdana]SamSofa330, Philly 1st, Waterloo 2nd
Indysam, Waterloo 2nd
Kristian Calhoun, Detroit 2nd
340x4xLife, Bayou 3rd



Just give me random, thanks.

[EricH]

Oink-Oink-BOOMSHOCKALOCKA
I guess it's time to remind you of this (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=782149&postcount=177) to remind you that yes, you are (for the moment) still the standard...:P

[Alex Cormier]

My only goal at this point is to beat Alex, come on baby keep it going.
Oh man... I knew that Tottanka was coming up and would pass me, but you Jack. I didn't think it would happen. Let's see how the next week plays out. I have a Strong alliance in Philly... I am expecting at least two champions to come out of my three teams.

With that... Has anyone ever selected the entire winning alliance?

[EricH]

With that... Has anyone ever selected the entire winning alliance?No better than 2/3, at least during the Season Long events. The real trick is to get the RCA/regional winner, plus another regional winner, and have a regional finalist, and that might have happened once.

[Vikesrock]

No better than 2/3, at least during the Season Long events. The real trick is to get the RCA/regional winner, plus another regional winner, and have a regional finalist, and that might have happened once.

Yep, I managed that for DC with 234, 45 and 118. This alliance did take an incredible amount of luck to assemble however.

[EricH]

I guess it's that time of week again...

Consider Week 4 locked for trading. At this point, only random teams will be assigned for any Week 4 events (and Israel).

And for Week 5 the following should probably trade some teams:
SamC (formerly SamSofa330), GTR 1st
rocketperson44, Vegas 1st
NickE, Palmetto 1st
Michelle Celio, Palmetto 1st
Liz Smith, Lone Star 1st
Indysam, Palmetto 2nd
340x4xLife, Lone Star 1st
Nawaid Ladak, Palmetto 1st

As a reminder, the MI State Championship draft will be the Wednesday before Week 6, and drafts will lock shortly after it finishes.

[Vikesrock]

I've got Israel teams scored up for the robot stuff, once the awards get posted either on FIRST's site or CD I can get the sheet updated.

[Tottanka]

The awards are now up...

[EricH]

Israel has been scored; the scores will be with the sheet.

However, Barry didn't build up a big enough lead; the top 5 are now:

Vikesrock, 1761
Barry, 1729
Tottanka, 1641
Jack, 1514
Alex, 1375

Tottanka's home-field advantage paid off this year, as he got the second-highest score for Israel... (Last year, it didn't.)

[Vikesrock]

The sheet for week 4 is now up with a few missing awards.

Chesapeake: WFFA team missing
Boilermaker: Imagery assumed to be 1501 not 1510, not sure who Delphi Technology is supposed to be as the team listed did not attend.
Arizona: WFFA team missing
Bayou: WFFA team missing

Oh, and Barry smoked me in regionals this week with 737 to my 418. I beat him by 192 in the 2 districts to put me down just short of 100 heading into the last big week :(

[Tottanka]

Wow i really messed p this week.., a total of 350 points...goodbye Barry.

[Greg Peshek]

Oh, and Barry smoked me in regionals this week with 737 to my 418. I beat him by 192 in the 2 districts to put me down just short of 100 heading into the last big week :(

Just when I think I put up a pretty high score of 707 (including Michigan districts, 576 without Michigan) and that there's no way anyone passed, Barry goes and gets 737 (not sure if that includes districts or not). I'd be a lot closer in the final scoring if I hadn't completely failed Week 2, meh. Anyway, good job Barry.

[EricH]

The sheet for week 4 is now up with a few missing awards.

Chesapeake: WFFA team missing
Boilermaker: Imagery assumed to be 1501 not 1510, not sure who Delphi Technology is supposed to be as the team listed did not attend.
Arizona: WFFA team missing
Bayou: WFFA team missing

I've tracked down all but 2 of the missing ones and am accounting for them in scoring.
Chesapeake: 134
Boilermaker: Correct assumption; still waiting on Technology
Arizona: 2570
Bayou: Working on it.

[Kellen Hill]

I got 735 this week by my count. I think that should help me catch up a lot. This was a good week for me. :)