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From Bill Miller's blog (http://forums.usfirst.org/showpost.php?p=17019&postcount=7):
Good Afternoon Teams,
Kate, our Engineer of the Kit of Parts is hard at work finalizing the contents of this year’s kits. She asked me to tell you that this year, AndyMark will offer some of the FRC specific components of the new control system for sale on their website. The driver station, power distribution board, digital sidecar, pneumatic bumper and analog bumper aren’t available to teams yet, but stay tuned for more details on availability and pricing. We’ll also announce where to find other components as we finalize those arrangements.
120 days until Kickoff! See you then.
Comments: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=9738
What do you guys think? Shouldn't change much, except we'll be testing their international shipping capabilities. ;)
Kyle Love
04-09-2008, 22:32
From Bill Miller's blog (http://forums.usfirst.org/showpost.php?p=17019&postcount=7):
What do you guys think? Shouldn't change much, except we'll be testing their international shipping capabilities. ;)
I know they can handle the international shipping, they are beasts at that.
I would say the new IFI would be National Instruments, since they actually make the controller. AndyMark can be like a distribution center for some of the stuff, I guess you could say?
Not a big surprise. Those parts are made by an Indiana company so it makes sense that they be distributed by another Indiana company, especially one that understand our special needs.
AndyMark can be like a distribution center for some of the stuff, I guess you could say?
Yes, that's what I meant - the new IFI as in FIRST's "official" supplier, not control system developer.
=Martin=Taylor=
04-09-2008, 23:19
Didn't IFI also USED to make a kit-bot (;)), traction wheels, and transmissions? :D
Didn't IFI also USED to make a kit-bot (;)), traction wheels, and transmissions? :D
KOP Traction wheels and both Kit-Bot trans were made by AM.
Jeff 801
04-09-2008, 23:46
Didn't IFI also USED to make a kit-bot (;)), traction wheels, and transmissions? :D
In 2005 and 2006 I am almost certain IFI made the KOP gearboxes if that is what you are talking and about the wheels, in those years they were made by skyway.
AdamHeard
05-09-2008, 00:48
In 2005 and 2006 I am almost certain IFI made the KOP gearboxes if that is what you are talking and about the wheels, in those years they were made by skyway.
I can't find the thread, but it was posted by Paul Copioli and/or Andy Baker that AndyMark made most (maybe all) of the parts for the 2005-2006 KOP gearbox.
All I want to say that Andy Mark has become one of most reliable vendors in FIRST for Robotics teams. I am pretty sure that almost everyone (teams) has bought Something from AM.
Congrats guys
p.s. watch out for a new tensioner coming out on AM's site :cool:
Arefin Bari
05-09-2008, 01:19
I can't find the thread, but it was posted by Paul Copioli and/or Andy Baker that AndyMark made most (maybe all) of the parts for the 2005-2006 KOP gearbox.
I believe it was Paul Copioli who designed the kit chassis and John V. Neun who designed the transmission that was distributed by IFI. Perhaps, one of them can confirm it.
=Martin=Taylor=
05-09-2008, 01:38
In 2005 and 2006 I am almost certain IFI made the KOP gearboxes if that is what you are talking and about the wheels, in those years they were made by skyway.
I was being facetious.
So IFI distributed the chassis and the old tranny and AM manufactured it?
In that case, nothing has really changed (in regards to the mechanics) has it? They just got rid of the middle man.
I believe it was Paul Copioli who designed the kit chassis and John V. Neun who designed the transmission that was distributed by IFI. Perhaps, one of them can confirm it.
Arefin,
You have that backwards. John designed the kit chassis, Paul designed the transmission. I am not sure who they consulted with when doing the design/testing/supplier selection. IFI did distribute both products, as well as many other KOP items.
-Eric
Andy Baker
05-09-2008, 10:18
I believe it was Paul Copioli who designed the kit chassis and John V. Neun who designed the transmission that was distributed by IFI. Perhaps, one of them can confirm it.
As EO mentioned, it was the other way around: John designed the kit chassis and Paul designed the gearbox. John and Paul worked closely on this, assisting each other. Mark and I helped a bit with the gearbox design, and offered to make parts. For the 2005 Kit Gearbox, AndyMark was simply one of the suppliers, as we made 3 of the gears.
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As for the 2009 electronics...
AndyMark is happy to be the storefront to provide 4 of the auxiliary control system components. These components are the power distribution (PD) board, the digital sidecar, pneumatic board and analog board. These items will be included in each team's Kit of Parts, but teams can come to the AndyMark site (http://www.andymark.biz/) to buy extras.
Diversified Systems (http://www.divsys.com/NS.HTML) is the manufacturer of these electronics items. Technical data provided by Diversified Systems will be available on the AndyMark site within a couple of weeks. These items will be for sale this fall, but not until November, most likely.
Sincerely,
Andy Baker
Hey Andy, what's this I see about 21" mecanum wheels on the new parts page?! Any particular reason for that size?
Andy Baker
05-09-2008, 11:44
Hey Andy, what's this I see about 21" mecanum wheels on the new parts page?! Any particular reason for that size?
We have customers who are wishing to have larger AndyMark Mecanum wheels. We are developing a 10" and 21" diameter wheel, with drastically increased load capabilities compared to our current versions. (no, these are not for FIRST robots)
However, regarding the electronics...
We now have pictures (http://www.andymark.biz/09electronics.html) of in-process products at Diversified Sysetems.
Andy
EricVanWyk
07-09-2008, 11:45
However, regarding the electronics...
We now have pictures (http://www.andymark.biz/09electronics.html) of in-process products at Diversified Sysetems.
I had to say it - Those are some pretty pictures.
However, regarding the electronics...
We now have pictures (http://www.andymark.biz/09electronics.html) of in-process products at Diversified Sysetems.
Andy
Hey Andy,
Why are they called "Bumper" boards?
Andy Baker
09-09-2008, 15:47
I had to say it - Those are some pretty pictures.
Hey Andy,
Why are they called "Bumper" boards?
Good question, Raul. I don't know.
Hey, Eric... why are they called "bumper" boards?
Hey, everyone else... why haven't you caught a couple of humorous things on the pictures of these boards?
Laters,
Andy
Good question, Raul. I don't know.
Hey, Eric... why are they called "bumper" boards?
Hey, everyone else... why haven't you caught a couple of humorous things on the pictures of these boards?
Laters,
Andy
:) what do you mean? :) Humorous things on the boards?:) Electronics can be funny?:) Some sort of Easter eggs?:)
It's nice to see that they are keeping up with the revisions for us. I hope they have gone through enough to get it right.
the smiley bumper boards are rather amusing
Good question, Raul. I don't know.
Hey, Eric... why are they called "bumper" boards?
Hey, everyone else... why haven't you caught a couple of humorous things on the pictures of these boards?
Laters,
Andy
Hey Andy
Because until today the larger version of those images didn't work.
Hey Andy
Because until today the larger version of those images didn't work.
some still dont work right
-Mike
Dave Flowerday
09-09-2008, 18:21
Hey, everyone else... why haven't you caught a couple of humorous things on the pictures of these boards?
Is one of them the picture of the guy doing board lug assembly with a big machine without safety glasses who is looking almost directly at a yellow note saying "SAFETY" on it? Wait, that's not funny...
I do like the smiley faces though :)
ATannahill
09-09-2008, 18:41
is it that they all look like legos?
Andy Baker
09-09-2008, 20:05
Hey Andy
Because until today the larger version of those images didn't work.
Is one of them the picture of the guy doing board lug assembly with a big machine without safety glasses who is looking almost directly at a yellow note saying "SAFETY" on it? Wait, that's not funny...
I do like the smiley faces though :)
Yep, 2 of the larger image links didn't work. I'll have to talk to the IT department about that. (that would be me)
Good catch, Dave. I omitted that pic.
AB
team222badbrad
10-09-2008, 18:22
We have customers who are wishing to have larger AndyMark Mecanum wheels. We are developing a 10" and 21" diameter wheel, with drastically increased load capabilities compared to our current versions. (no, these are not for FIRST robots)
Andy
Forget about a Smart car! I'm slapping four of those on my car, no worries about parallel parking now!:D
Now I just have to figure out how to get power to all fours.:ahh:
www.divsys.com
24-09-2008, 19:39
Is one of them the picture of the guy doing board lug assembly with a big machine without safety glasses who is looking almost directly at a yellow note saying "SAFETY" on it? Wait, that's not funny...
I do like the smiley faces though :)
No safety glasses are required for that piece of equipment, the tool encapsulates the lug during assembly. OSHA compliant!
FYI, we had to pull that machine out of the relics. The awesome lugs used maxed out all of our presses except that dinosaur before we could get them fully seated. :eek:
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