View Full Version : FLL Missions anounced at noon or what?

09-05-2008, 11:07 AM
Drumroll....... and then nothing.

I hate to moan... but I thought a big deal was made of the FLL "kickoff" but I can't even find where it is.

The newly updated FirstLegoLeague.org website is lacking in major areas (lots of "Coming Soon" pages), but even the USFIRST.org link to the "Challenge" page goes nowere....

I "Think" I have the right page... but all I get is a lame message:

COMING SOON - Check back September 5 for the unveiling of all the Climate Connections Robot Game related information!

Woo... Hoo....

Anyone have a clue if the game has been released or not?

I'm here: http://www.firstlegoleague.org/community/fll/game.aspx


09-05-2008, 11:15 AM
That's where I've been looking, going back and hitting "refresh" every so often. Usually it's a noon release, isn't it?

The FLL website has been redone. Q&A, for instance, will be in the form of a blog. Actually 3 blogs, for general, Game and Judging.

Considering that in some parts of the world it's now the 6th ...

Rich Wong
09-05-2008, 11:18 AM
You are right. FIRST is late.

I had my alarm set to check Sept. 5th at 12noon.


For NYC Folks:
NYC FLL Kickoff reminders-
Climate Connections Bronx FLL Kickoff Event- Sat. Sept. 13 (PS 194)
Climate Connections Brooklyn FLL Kickoff Event- Sat. Sept. 20th (NYU/Polytechnic Univeristy)

Barry Bonzack
09-05-2008, 11:23 AM
I am pretty sure the "Game Rules" page is the right one, but its not there yet. If they are trying to build anticipation, they are doing an excellent job.

While waiting for the game, check out some of the new cool stuff! I found this article on the site and thought it was very well written

Why Scores and rankings Don't Mean Much (http://www.firstlegoleague.org/community/BlogPostPage.aspx?id=1032#aComments)

As a judge, it can become very tricky picking the "best" team at competitions. I know of at least one instance of having a parent complain after a competition was over about his belief that his son's team had the best robot there, made a perfect score, and therefore should have won the competition and gone to the International Showcase.

I remember the robot was indeed excellent at what it did, but had no sensors or third motor. It indeed deserved to be at the state competition, but it was clear which other teams had gained more out of their experiences.

09-05-2008, 11:40 AM
We must be close.... now I'm getting a server error :)

Configuration Error
Description: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration file required to service this request. Please review the specific error details below and modify your configuration file appropriately.

Parser Error Message: The configSource file 'AssetManagement.config' is also used in a parent, this is not allowed.

Source Error:

Line 14: </configSections>
Line 15:
Line 16: <DocumentManagerData configSource="AssetManagement.config" />
Line 17: <analyticsSettings>
Line 18: <!-- globally enables or disabled all visitor tracking -->

Source File: D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\F00710 - FIRST\firstlegoleague.org\www\Lego_SiteApplication \Lego_WebSite\web.config Line: 16

Josh Drake
09-05-2008, 11:54 AM
This is worse than Christmas morning. At least there is some activity. I have hope.:]

Bob Steele
09-05-2008, 12:21 PM
Still showing errors on the website.
I tried opening it in Explorer, Firefox and in google Chrome....
apparently not a browser problem...

I would imagine they are frantically working on it...


09-05-2008, 12:26 PM
I would imagine they are frantically working on it.I think so. Now I'm getting a 403 error, "declined to show this webpage" on the main firstlegoleague.org page.

09-05-2008, 12:29 PM
The "not so funny" thing is that the USFIRST.ORG website boldly states that the "FLL Challenge is released" ....... and links to the server error page....

Released from it's cage maybe :(


Oh no!!!... there's even a press statement that says:

In conjunction with the 2008 season Kickoff, FIRST LEGO League will launch its redesigned Website at
www.FIRSTLEGOLeague.org. The site establishes a fun and inviting, global, online community where
users can learn about the FLL program, see season schedules, register teams, create a Team Site, or
join in on a Forum.

Time to fire that web developer .....

Barry Bonzack
09-05-2008, 12:49 PM
its up! (http://www.firstlegoleague.org/community/fll/game.aspx)

First reaction: I'm liking the look of the mat this year. It is mostly white with some color lines here and there. This will really mike the light sensor useful and easy.

Bob Steele
09-05-2008, 01:00 PM
Apparently the videos were not working.
The links to download them are good now...
Perhaps this will get fixed soon... It has been fixed... downloading videos now...
Great job FLL TEAM!!


09-05-2008, 02:14 PM
And I thought the missions couldn't get any harder than last year. Ha! Let's see, which team should I challenge to get a perfect score this year, and what limitations should I put on it? Last year's challenge was to do it in one program.

Great rule changes. Stay-in-place jigs are back - YEA! And no more Parking Lot, the most confusing thing of last year.

I'm a bit concerned about the locked or attached test though - conceivably that could limit the ability of the robot to grasp objects.

Akash Rastogi
09-05-2008, 02:33 PM
Awwww maaan, I have to go and build so many of these kits now :(

Hmm, at least I have freshmen in robotics class that'll do it for a grade

We have to construct so many of these because field kits won't be passed around regionals (what I heard) for our NJ state championship...

*sigh*, time to go find some willing freshmen...

09-05-2008, 03:19 PM
Has anyone been able to print out the missions and rules?

Whenever I try I just get a blank page. D'oh

I'd love a printer-friendly pdf.....

ps: not all of my kids have broadband (or even internet) at home so printouts are kinds necessary for reference.

Electronic access should make it easier.... right.....
I'm also concerned about the Q&A being a blog.... As long is it's possible to see all the Q&A's on one long page it will be OK, but if they are spread across many pages, and in random order.... it's gonna be tricky....

Barry Bonzack
09-05-2008, 03:28 PM
the downloadable videos appear to be a .flv format. What do I need to see videos in this format?

Bob Steele
09-05-2008, 06:07 PM
I just downloaded them and RealPlayer plays them just fine...I am using RP 11.0.03

If that helps...

I think that opening the window will be the toughest challenge... it appeared to me from the video that you have to turn a wheel to do that...

Interesting missions....

Rich Wong
09-18-2008, 03:07 AM
NYC FLL Reminder-

The Brooklyn Borough FLL Kickoff will be held on Saturday, September 20, 2008 at NYU/Polytechnic University. Teams will be presented the 2008 research assignment, the current tournament structure, and have the opportunity to discuss tricks and tips with veteran teams for a successful 2008 season.

More: http://www.nycnjfirst.org/nycfll_kickoff.html

See you there!:]