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Macdaddy549
09-12-2008, 09:19
Can anyone tell me if we can use a hockey stick as material on past bots? NOT WOOD. I have several sticks made from a composit material.

sdcantrell56
09-12-2008, 09:33
You can most definitely use hockey sticks and that is actually a great idea since they are really strong and light. I believe team 40 used them this past year for their arm. All of this could change in the upcoming season but based on last season they are legal.

yodameister
09-12-2008, 09:37
I know that team 1006 in 2006 used a pair of hockey sticks on their bot.

EricVanWyk
09-12-2008, 09:58
You can most definitely use hockey sticks and that is actually a great idea since they are really strong and light. I believe team 40 used them this past year for their arm. All of this could change in the upcoming season but based on last season they are legal.

I know Team 20 has used hockey sticks for a few years running.

I couldn't find a picture of 40 from '08, but I didn't remember sticks on there.

sdcantrell56
09-12-2008, 10:09
It probably was team 20 then. I wasn't sure of the team # I just knew I saw one. Here is a picture of team 20 from this year http://picasaweb.google.com/skowski/FIRSTChamps08#5191369261362798018 and http://picasaweb.google.com/skowski/FIRSTChamps08#5191373741013688514

Kiwi
09-12-2008, 10:10
We've used cake pans and an extension ladder, so there's no reason that hockey sticks shouldn't be allowed... I wouldn't recommend using a lot of insanely expensive ones because it could theoretically disqualify you based on the components' total cost limit, however.

JohnBoucher
09-12-2008, 10:29
Litchbots used a skateboard

Greg Needel
09-12-2008, 10:58
Team 40 has never done hockey sticks, but team 340 has in both 2008 and 2007

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/80c/80c37b47a11040871639e201e05d5d80_l.jpg

MrForbes
09-12-2008, 11:13
In the past the rules have allowed most materials that can be purchased by any team for under $400. New hockey sticks would be allowed (unless they're really expensive), older ones would not be allowed (they can't be purchased by any team as a commercial off the shelf item).

384 huband44
09-12-2008, 11:18
Can anyone tell me if we can use a hockey stick as material on past bots? NOT WOOD. I have several sticks made from a composit material.

What does it matter?
You don't know the game now, so why do you need to know?

EricVanWyk
09-12-2008, 11:33
It probably was team 20 then. I wasn't sure of the team # I just knew I saw one. Here is a picture of team 20 from this year http://picasaweb.google.com/skowski/FIRSTChamps08#5191369261362798018 and http://picasaweb.google.com/skowski/FIRSTChamps08#5191373741013688514

I had heard rumor that that mistake had been made several times earlier, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the info.

dtengineering
09-12-2008, 13:08
I'm curious on the cost account rules for broken hockey sticks.

Presumably, if they are recovered from a garbage can they can be accounted as "zero cost".

We used a couple of broken carbon fibre sticks courtesy of the Portland Winterhawks (who share the Memorial Colliseum in Portland) when our floor hockey sticks turned out to not be quite as flexible as we had assumed... at least not when driven by "Crash" as she was quickly renamed.

Jason

Stephen Kowski
09-12-2008, 13:12
Team 20 used them in 2007 for sure, but from what I understand (depending on what you choose) they can be fairly expensive.

Zflash
09-12-2008, 13:31
I'm curious on the cost account rules for broken hockey sticks.

Presumably, if they are recovered from a garbage can they can be accounted as "zero cost".

We used a couple of broken carbon fibre sticks courtesy of the Portland Winterhawks (who share the Memorial Colliseum in Portland) when our floor hockey sticks turned out to not be quite as flexible as we had assumed... at least not when driven by "Crash" as she was quickly renamed.

Jason

Depending on this years rules as always...Based on previous years you would need to account for the cost of the brand new stick(s). And the new price could not be over $400 per stick. This is because not all teams have access to broken hockey sticks at a discount price. The only benifit your team recieves is not actually having to spend the money, you do however have to account for it in the $3,500 robot price tag.