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Comatose
19-01-2009, 22:00
I know I'm not much short of a noob to F.I.R.S.T. but who is Car Nack? :confused: I have a suspicion your name is a reference to John Carmack, is this true? Are his predictions to be trusted? Where are the Endless Sands?

These are dire questions, please answer them, the fate of our world hangs in the balance.

Thanks, Comatose

EricH
19-01-2009, 22:03
I know I'm not much short of a noob to F.I.R.S.T. but who is Car Nack? :confused: I have a suspicion your name is a reference to John Carmack, is this true? Are his predictions to be trusted? Where are the Endless Sands?

These are dire questions, please answer them, the fate of our world hangs in the balance.

Thanks, Comatose
Car Nack is the friendly neighborhood sage, who predicts how various elements of the current game will turn out. He is often right, though he has been known to be wrong on rare occasions. Asking his real name (he has one?) results in great ignorance. As for the Endless Sands and the possible reference in the name, only Car Nack can tell you for sure. Rumor says that Car Nack will be at the St. Louis Regional, but finding Car Nack may be difficult at best. Maybe his camel can tell you where to find him.

Richard Wallace
19-01-2009, 22:15
Car Nack may claim to dwell among the endless sands, but I suspect tomorrow morning he'll be digging his camel out of the drifting lake-effect snow. ;)

Andy L
19-01-2009, 22:39
Yes, Car Nack generally makes a few predictions per year and they're almost always right from my experience.

I too have wondered who he is, and where the endless sands are

J Flex 188
19-01-2009, 22:55
Hmm, seems to me Car Nack and his penchant for postulating and pondering is probably based on Car Nac The Magnificent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnac_the_Magnificent), a Johnny Carson character from the Tonight Show (now the host is Jay Leno).

So either its someone who is old enough to have watched that show, or someone who has a keen interest in trivia or pop culture references, or maybe both!


I know I'm not much short of a noob to F.I.R.S.T. but who is Car Nack? :confused: I have a suspicion your name is a reference to John Carmack, is this true? Are his predictions to be trusted? Where are the Endless Sands?

Ian Curtis
19-01-2009, 23:00
I've always assumed it was a nod to the Egyptian Temple. (http://www.eyelid.co.uk/karnak1.htm)

That said, our Car Nack is pretty good at what he/she does.:rolleyes:

If you do enough searching on these forums, you can figure out who he/she is.

Andy L
19-01-2009, 23:06
If I remember right, Car Nack had a few login issues last year that you may be able to find. Or am I thinking of someone else?

The Lucas
20-01-2009, 01:43
If I remember right, Car Nack had a few login issues last year that you may be able to find. Or am I thinking of someone else?

You are thinking of Looking Forward...or are they the same person? :D

Jessica Boucher
20-01-2009, 07:31
Bill Beatty. First thread about it can be found here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41760 but you can search for more.

Al Skierkiewicz
20-01-2009, 07:41
Those that know the inner sanctum know where the shifting sands lie. Although as Richard pointed out above, they can only be found this time of year below a few feet of lake effect snow (of which Richard is getting a first person experience!) Welcom to southwest Michigan Richard.

BigMoney135
20-01-2009, 09:22
So this is what you were ranting about last night. I'm glad that people have started to answer you and you can stop yelling.

bduddy
20-01-2009, 10:13
Hey, I'm going to St. Louis this year! How will I discern who is the great Car Nack?

Richard Wallace
20-01-2009, 10:56
The wisdom of great Car Nack will shine forth like a beacon.

From his pit shall emerge an awesome BEAST.

Al Skierkiewicz
20-01-2009, 11:28
Hey, I'm going to St. Louis this year! How will I discern who is the great Car Nack?

Only he can reveal himself! There is only one true Car Nac.

Koko Ed
20-01-2009, 11:38
Hey, I'm going to St. Louis this year! How will I discern who is the great Car Nack?

Go to the pit overflowing with awesomeness. There he resides like a great king who rules all that he surveys (aka team 71's pit).

MOE
20-01-2009, 12:22
HELLOOooo from the North East :D
I have seen the GREAT CAR NACK with a RUMBLE HAT ON !!!!!!!!! back in the day. He is allways right, but to find HIM you must break the code and not everyone knows the code, I might be of some help with this ...........
r 21 J 91 J 16 D
If you need help see me in GA
MOE and team 88 TJ2 oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!! tye dye forever:yikes:

Andy L
20-01-2009, 15:40
You are thinking of Looking Forward...or are they the same person? :D

Yeah, that's who I was thinking of, my bad

ZakuAce
21-01-2009, 18:22
Only he can reveal himself! There is only one true Car Nac.

Car Nac is the Highlander! THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!!!!

Comatose
21-01-2009, 19:09
HELLOOooo from the North East :D
I have seen the GREAT CAR NACK with a RUMBLE HAT ON !!!!!!!!! back in the day. He is always right, but to find HIM you must break the code and not everyone knows the code, I might be of some help with this ...........
r 21 J 91 J 16 D
If you need help see me in GA
MOE and team 88 TJ2 oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!! tye dye forever:yikes:

Wow, well I'm not one for thinking inside the box, so I've decided to take a different look at this hint. Since this post has more information in it then the others, I assume that Car Nack is from team 88. He'd have to be on a team that's been in the game for awhile to make these predictions. I've gotten some books on code from my library though, so hopefully I can crack this.

Hopefully I'll see you at Atlanta, just in case :D,

Comatose

EricH
21-01-2009, 19:57
Wow, well I'm not one for thinking inside the box, so I've decided to take a different look at this hint. Since this post has more information in it then the others, I assume that Car Nack is from team 88. He'd have to be on a team that's been in the game for awhile to make these predictions. I've gotten some books on code from my library though, so hopefully I can crack this.

Hopefully I'll see you at Atlanta, just in case :D,

Comatose
He's not. If you know where to look, I think he posted on the wrong account by mistake a while ago.

MOE
22-01-2009, 08:25
HELLOOOooooo from the North East :D
Car Nack is not from team 88 :rolleyes: his team came into FIRST the same year as TJ2. I can not give any more news at this time . I don't know if CAR Nack would like to be found at this point in time. I can check with him, very few know him (as CAR NACK). More info. could come later on this matter :ahh: -------- GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE GREAT TEAMS IN 2009 we at TJ2 TEAM 88 say oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!! See All SOOooooooooon.
MOE and TEAM 88 TJ2 :yikes:

JVN
22-01-2009, 11:49
I am continually amazed at the phenomenon where someone will post a straight answer (correctly, even citing evidence) to a thread's question in the thread, but others will continue to guess/speculate (incorrectly).

Is it because no one bothers to read the threads?
As my father used to say "listen with your ears not with your mouth."

-John

Al Skierkiewicz
22-01-2009, 12:11
John,
My dad used to say, "God gave you two ears and only one mouth, so that you would listen twice as often as you would talk." Some would say I didn't follow his advice.

Richard Wallace
22-01-2009, 12:22
I think Paul Simon nailed the problem:A man walks down the street
He says why am I short of attention
Got a short little span of attention

Read a whole thread before posting? Who's got the attention span for that? :rolleyes:

Collin Fultz
22-01-2009, 14:39
I am continually amazed at the phenomenon where someone will post a straight answer (correctly, even citing evidence) to a thread's question in the thread, but others will continue to guess/speculate (incorrectly).

Is it because no one bothers to read the threads?
As my father used to say "listen with your ears not with your mouth."

-John

I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, but it's pretty obvious to me that John is Car Nack. Fact. Write it down. Stamp it. Send it to Washington.

Comatose
22-01-2009, 18:15
Bill Beatty. Hmmmm. Well, then I guess my other question is what makes him qualified to make these predictions :D .

JaneYoung
22-01-2009, 19:35
Bill Beatty. Hmmmm. Well, then I guess my other question is what makes him qualified to make these predictions :D .

This is a wonderful question.

Mr. Beatty is a legend. Look in the FIRSTwiki link in the portal and check out FRC 71, Team Hammond. What you will see is a listing of achievements. That's a start. Then you can do some searches here in ChiefDelphi for discussions about Mr. Beatty. Words like brilliant strategists might be a good way to search. Great contributors to the vision, the goals, the potential of this thing called FIRST. Woodie Flowers Award winners - WFAs - those would be a good start.

Another thing you can do is something I did a year ago at Kickoff. You can spend an hour that flies by way too fast, talking with an alumnus of FRC 71 and learn about the team, the community of Hammond, the struggles and achievements of the team within that community. If you do any of these things, you will have gained wisdom and a deeper understanding of those who commit their lives to insuring that young people are involved in and inspired by science, technology, and community. And maybe you will have gained some understanding of the humor and wisdom that surrounds Car Nack and his predictions.

ChrisH
22-01-2009, 20:05
Bill Beatty. Hmmmm. Well, then I guess my other question is what makes him qualified to make these predictions :D .

Just about anybody can make a prediction, no special qualifications are required. Post away!

Car Nack has his own corner to make predictions in due to his incredible insight and accuracy. Four Championship medals and a Championship WFA (actually back then there was only one WFA) do not hurt either.

Richard Wallace
22-01-2009, 20:23
Bill Beatty. Hmmmm. Well, then I guess my other question is what makes him qualified to make these predictions :D .Jane's comments in the preceding post are spot-on.

I've posted my thoughts on FRC 71 before (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=533020&highlight=beast#post533020), so now I will keep it short:

(1) Why do I respect Car Nack's predictions? Hmmm, maybe it's the gleam of those four FRC Championship trophies on his credenza? Or, if that record isn't impressive enough,

(2) I've personally seen Team Hammond in action twice: once at the 1996 Championship (Epcot) where they seeded #1 in their very first event, and again ten years later at the 2006 St. Louis Regional (see link above). Both times, they were the most inspirational team in the field.

MOE
23-01-2009, 00:33
HELLOOOooo from the North Ease :D
WELL MOST CAN NOT BREAK THE CODE there is always some new thoughts on this but Car Nack has a team in FIRST. Car Nack (knows math ) HE is very good in gears and this part of FIRST. Some may see him in a RUMBLE HAT back in the day there are some pictures of him on different webs. His team has had (3) different TEAM #'s It is a very well know team such as TJ2 is. well, may you all keep building for the 2009 season. :yikes:
I will check in later I am off to work on the NEW DRIVE :ahh: AH YOU will have to think about this. oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!
TYE DYE (FOREVER) SEE YAH SOOoooooon
THIS year will be A HOOT ---------- :yikes:

MOE and TEAM 88 TJ2

Al Skierkiewicz
23-01-2009, 07:50
No one questions the great Car Nack lest your battery falls out, your pneumatics blow a gasket and you tip over repeatedly. No one even speaks his real name except in hushed tones in the corner of a darkened room.

dlavery
23-01-2009, 13:09
I am continually amazed at the phenomenon where someone will post a straight answer (correctly, even citing evidence) to a thread's question in the thread, but others will continue to guess/speculate (incorrectly).

Is it because no one bothers to read the threads?
As my father used to say "listen with your ears not with your mouth."

-John

HELLOOOooo from the North Ease :D
WELL MOST CAN NOT BREAK THE CODE there is always some new thoughts on this but Car Nack has a team in FIRST. Car Nack (knows math ) HE is very good in gears and this part of FIRST. Some may see him in a RUMBLE HAT back in the day there are some pictures of him on different webs. His team has had (3) different TEAM #'s It is a very well know team such as TJ2 is. well, may you all keep building for the 2009 season. :yikes:
I will check in later I am off to work on the NEW DRIVE :ahh: AH YOU will have to think about this. oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!
TYE DYE (FOREVER) SEE YAH SOOoooooon
THIS year will be A HOOT ---------- :yikes:

MOE and TEAM 88 TJ2

<sigh>

RoboMom
23-01-2009, 15:03
No one questions the great Car Nack lest your battery falls out, your pneumatics blow a gasket and you tip over repeatedly. No one even speaks his real name except in hushed tones in the corner of a darkened room.

I've also heard that Car Nack comes from a distinguished family tree and his name is only whispered because it is so awesome...

Andy Grady
23-01-2009, 22:05
<sigh>

What Dave, you don't see why Moe is a regional treasure here in New England? Maybe it is because you never received socks.

Here is prediction...Car Nack will make a prediction again next year, and there will be ANOTHER WHO IS CAR NACK THREAD!

MOE
23-01-2009, 22:41
HELLO from the NORTH EAST :D
Well, can I tell you some more about the GREAT CAR NACK, has anyone figured out the code. from another post???? He has MOE SOCKS and with the sig on them also. He can be seen with a RUMBLE HAT on and has his MOE SOCKS also.:ahh:
good luck to all the great TEAMS :yikes:
MOE and TEAM 88 TJ2 TYE DYE for ever .... oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!:D

EricH
23-01-2009, 22:43
HELLO from the NORTH EAST :D
Well, can I tell you some more about the GREAT CAR NACK, has anyone figured out the code. from another post???? He has MOE SOCKS and with the sig on them also. He can be seen with a RUMBLE HAT on and has his MOE SOCKS also.:ahh:
good luck to all the great TEAMS :yikes:
MOE and TEAM 88 TJ2 TYE DYE for ever .... oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!:D
MOE, would you please stop? Car Nack's real identity is now known to the OP. There is no need to continue dropping now-useless hints. That would be like the GDC posting a "hint" of a man on the moon right about now.

Brandon_L
23-01-2009, 22:56
huh..I always stayed away from this forum thinking it was about cars and such....but now that I looked at it :eek:

Taylor
27-01-2009, 16:08
MOE, would you please stop? Car Nack's real identity is now known to the OP. There is no need to continue dropping now-useless hints. That would be like the GDC posting a "hint" of a man on the moon right about now.

Was there another Game Hint we missed? I knew I should check Bill's Blog more often.

Comatose
29-01-2009, 19:02
Jeez, you guys are still going?

MOE
01-02-2009, 15:56
HELLOOooo from the North East :D
Yep Its me old MOE:yikes: , well has anyone figured out the code yet ???? I guess some are working on the new bots and don't have the time for this, BUT as always CAR NACK will have some great info. at a later date ?????;) Its off to pick out our colors for this year :rolleyes: ( I think we will use TYE DYE this time????!!!!) :p
good luck to all see ya Sooooooon.
MOE and team 88 TJ2 TYE DYE for ever oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!

Andy L
01-02-2009, 16:02
HELLOOooo from the North East :D
Yep Its me old MOE:yikes: , well has anyone figured out the code yet ???? I guess some are working on the new bots and don't have the time for this, BUT as always CAR NACK will have some great info. at a later date ?????;) Its off to pick out our colors for this year :rolleyes: ( I think we will use TYE DYE this time????!!!!) :p
good luck to all see ya Sooooooon.
MOE and team 88 TJ2 TYE DYE for ever oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!

Can you like... stop?

EricH
01-02-2009, 16:12
Can you like... stop?
Seconded. As I said before, the OP already knows who Car Nack is.

Al Skierkiewicz
02-02-2009, 07:19
( I think we will use TYE DYE this time????!!!!) :p
good luck to all see ya Sooooooon.
MOE and team 88 TJ2 TYE DYE for ever oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!!

How will we ever tell each other apart?!?

Taylor
02-02-2009, 10:29
How will we ever tell each other apart?!?

...name tags?

Comatose
04-02-2009, 19:54
Hmmmm, this is slowly becoming another example of a forum topic getting, well, off topic. We did figure out who Car Nack is, so I'm gonna take this off my subscribe now :| .

Thanks for the info and random stuff XD,

Comatose