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groves
07-02-2009, 03:24
[cdm-description=photo]32638[/cdm-description]
GarrettF2395
07-02-2009, 03:27
I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere? :D
Bertman
07-02-2009, 19:49
Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.
groves
08-02-2009, 21:02
I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere? :D

Good eye! I was wondering if anyone would notice. Right now we're testing, but our current configuration is not unlike a segway. The drive platforms are three inches behind our center of gravity. The platforms "crab steer". We still have much testing to work out the exact details.
AV_guy007
08-02-2009, 22:05
Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.

If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.
Billfred
08-02-2009, 22:11
If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.

These Q&As will be relevant:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11616&highlight=kitbot
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11564&highlight=kitbot
EricH
08-02-2009, 22:12
If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.
You don't want to know what you're missing. See http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11519, http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11564, and http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11616, and you'll understand.
groves
09-02-2009, 00:15
Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.

We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.
EricH
09-02-2009, 00:31
We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.
As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)
groves
09-02-2009, 08:44
As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)

Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here (http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml) and be within the rules.
EricH
09-02-2009, 10:20
Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here (http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml) and be within the rules.
Yes, but did you purchase it, or did you use one from an old KOP? See the links I posted above, especially the last one.

It's a fine point, and I can't say that I necessarily agree with the GDC, but we do have to live with it.
groves
09-02-2009, 10:28
We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.

Yes, purchased COTS item. This is not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.
EricH
09-02-2009, 10:30
Yes, purchased COTS item not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.
I don't need to see it. However, the inspectors may choose to ask for it, so keep it handy. (I'm not sure what the inspection protocol is in regards to this.)

I'm just checking.