2009 ThunderChicken Robot

[Paul Copioli]

Here it is. We have been working extremely hard on this year's robot. Here are the specifications:

Drive - 2 CIM motors 4 wheel tank steer.

Intake - CIM powered floor load and human player bin.

Dumping - Powered by a 1 1/2" bore 6" long pneumatic cylinder.

We can dump 20 balls in 2.4 seconds.

This is not the normal ThunderChicken robot, but this is not a normal FIRST game.

We will see you at the competitions this year!

Paul

[Justin Montois]

Wow guys, it looks awesome as usual. 20 balls in 2.4 seconds is very impressive. Great luck in your district events, we hope to see you at Championship!! :)

I did think there would be more rivets..... ;)

[GUI]

Hmm, it apears this picture shows the details that 254's teaser left out! I imagine that it also looks great in 148 and 1114 trim.

[Chuck Glick]

I think this is a fake. There's not nearly enough rivets for this to be a 217 bot...

Paul, are you sure you aren't just yanking everyone's chains? :D

[BHS_STopping]

I think this is a fake. There's not nearly enough rivets for this to be a 217 bot...

Paul, are you sure you aren't just yanking everyone's chains? :D

Yeah... I'm seriously doubting the legality of them there bumpers... They don't appear to be fully supported along the length of the frame!

:p

[Aren_Hill]

I'm kinda doubting that that is actually there robot, completely different from there base cad posted earlier (you dont make cad drawings that spiffy and not use them). and it just doesnt seem 217 style.

call me suspicious

[Chuck Glick]

Or what about this 'ol post from good 'ol Paul.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=819719&postcount=6

I think this 2 CIMs for drive and one for intake is just another red herring. ;)

And, camera? I think we caught ya Paul. :D

[Jetweb]

Or what about this 'ol post from good 'ol Paul.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=819719&postcount=6

I think this 2 CIMs for drive and one for intake is just another red herring. ;)

And, camera? I think we caught ya Paul. :D

Beat me to posting that link, I agree seems fishy...

[Paul Copioli]

Please don't let the other post lead you astray. We never received our sheet metal so we had to go to plan B. We had to scale down some of our original plans, but this robot can deliver a really fast punch with the 20 ball dump and wicked traction control.

[Tottanka]

Please don't let the other post lead you astray. We never received our sheet metal so we had to go to plan B. We had to scale down some of our original plans, but this robot can deliver a really fast punch with the 20 ball dump and wicked traction control.
Any chance for a video?

[Jonathan Norris]

Paul, where's the camera???

[roboticWanderor]

how do the balls get from the bottom roller tothe top bin? all i see is one single roller, and not nearly enough rivets.

[Paul Copioli]

how do the balls get from the bottom roller tothe top bin?

Magic!

Paul, where's the camera???

We decided that the camera will not matter much this year.

[Jonathan Norris]

We decided that the camera will not matter much this year.

Then what are you going to use Simulation Mode for this year!! :ahh:

[Mentor_Mike]

And the dumping with the pnu-cyl. Are you just gonna tilt and slide?

v.cool.

[XaulZan11]

I personally don't think this is thier robot, but even is this is still relevent:

Imagine if a rookie team posted a fake picture of thier robot or said it worked using magic when asked how it worked. I'm sure you won't get the same reaction

This post sums up the double standard well: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=819965&postcount=8

Edit: Eh, I probably should not have posted this in this thread. My belief is that its is not fair for some teams to post teasers or not answer questions while other rookie or 'unknown' teams do the same get negitive rep and 'run out of CD'. I still believe that, but understand that by posting in this thread, it puts the blame solely on Paul and 217, which is completely unfair. They did nothing wrong. I guess I should have saved this rant for those who are the ones giving negitive rep out. Anway, sorry again for causing a distraction.

[Akash Rastogi]

I too call shenanigans.

[MrForbes]

I better go home and get my broom

[Paul Copioli]

Imagine if a rookie team posted a fake picture of thier robot or said it worked using magic when asked how it worked. I'm sure you won't get the same reaction

First of all, why do you think it is fake? Second, nowhere does it state in the CD forums rules that we have to answer all questions about the robot.

And another thing: why are you so uptight about a so called "double standard"? Some people get uptight about the silliest things. Personally, I don't care how silly the teaser is I just ignore it. I think some of them are hilarious and others are stupid but who cares?

All I can say is relax, I thought this was supposed to be fun ....

Paul

[Carrington]

What happened to your turreted shooter?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72086&page=2&highlight=shooters+vs.+dumpers

[Meredith Novak]

What? No chicken plucker??? I'm still hoping to at least see a "chicken-spitter."

[TheOtherGuy]

Is this another collaboration? 217 and 25? :yikes:

[Akash Rastogi]

I personally don't think this is thier robot, but even is this is still relevent:

Imagine if a rookie team posted a fake picture of thier robot or said it worked using magic when asked how it worked. I'm sure you won't get the same reaction

This post sums up the double standard well: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=819965&postcount=8

What?

Sorry, but that was totally uncalled for. I'm going to post up all the "fake" robot pictures I want too. You're taking a joking comment and making it into something significant.

[JaneYoung]

I thought this was supposed to be fun ....


It is fun, Paul.

You guys haven't put yourselves on a pedestal but others have put you there, it appears. Just keep having fun, humor will return for many after ship day. Well, there's a good chance of it, anyway.

[waialua359]

So what Paul?
Are we finally going to meet up at CMP?
Your shell lei and chocolates have been sitting with me for you for 2 years and counting..............

I'll try and replace the chocolate part.

[Karthik]

First of all, why do you think it is fake? Second, nowhere does it state in the CD forums rules that we have to answer all questions about the robot.

And another thing: why are you so uptight about a so called "double standard"? Some people get uptight about the silliest things. Personally, I don't care how silly the teaser is I just ignore it. I think some of them are hilarious and others are stupid but who cares?

All I can say is relax, I thought this was supposed to be fun ....

Paul

Paul,

You just have to get used to all the buzzkills around here. Some people just need to have something to complain about. Having fun would just cut into their complaining time.

[Akash Rastogi]

Paul,

You just have to get used to all the buzzkills around here. Some people just need to have something to complain about. Having fun would just cut into their complaining time.


Lolz.

Its a valid point about double standards, but its wrong to put out 217 on the spot when they don't do it to themselves. If people want to desperately voice their complaints, then make a ridiculous new thread or add to an existing related thread. Don't put teams out on the spot.

For example: "Those teams 816 and 1323 needs to stop posting pictures of their robots, nobody cares about them. I wanted to know how the frames were put together and they said 'magic' so I don't like them anymore."

*Reminder, I'm a friend of both teams*

[Tom Bottiglieri]

20 balls in 2 seconds is ridiculous. Awesome.

[Renee Becker-Blau]

Hey Paul,

Great looking robot, Congratulations! I'm glad everything turned out alright with your designs, Good Luck this year! :yikes:

[R.C.]

Lolz.

Its a valid point about double standards, but its wrong to put out 217 on the spot when they don't do it to themselves. If people want to desperately voice their complaints, then make a ridiculous new thread or add to an existing related thread. Don't put teams out on the spot.

For example: "Those teams 816 and 1323 needs to stop posting pictures of their robots, nobody cares about them. I wanted to know how the frames were put together and they said 'magic' so I don't like them anymore."

*Reminder, I'm a friend of both teams*

Your so awesome Akash, we so have to get some dinner at Nationals.:D

[Herodotus]

I for one am suitably impressed. This looks like the sort of simple and effective design I've come to associate with the Thunderchickens, and I'm willing to bet they will do quite well. Good luck, and hopefully we'll get the chance to work together again this year.

[Mike Ross]

Paul, you may have fooled some of them, but I have proof this is fake. To quote you from another thread:
We will show a picture of our robot (full disclosure) after it is wired and looks all pretty.

That would imply that this picture, being of the robot, is assembled, wired, and all but finished. BUT, the ship date is more than 24 hours away, THEREFORE 217 cannot possibly be finished, THEREFORE this must be a hoax.

BOOM! How's that for impenetrable logic?

[BHOP]

this is my favorite teaser thus far

[thefro526]

Wow. If this 217's real robot I am a bit disappointed... But at the same time I'm excited to see how they put the design into use on the field.

If it's not the real robot then this is by far the funnest teaser thread that I can remember.

Lolz.

For example: "Those teams 816 and 1323 needs to stop posting pictures of their robots, nobody cares about them. I wanted to know how the frames were put together and they said 'magic' so I don't like them anymore."

*Reminder, I'm a friend of both teams*

Lol, way to randomly talk about us in a Thunder Chickens thread...

[lukevanoort]

Wow. If this 217's real robot I am a bit disappointed...
Why? It's not the most complex robot in the world, but it probably works really well. 217 had a traction control system running just 4 days after kickoff, so they probably have that perfected and a lot of drive time. The CIM-powered pickup is probably really fast and efficient. I don't know how accurate the dump is, but it's unlikely to jam. I predict they'll be driving (often literal) circles around their opponents collecting tons of balls really fast, and then use their tcs to quickly pin someone for a dump and go back to collecting.

[thefro526]

Why? It's not the most complex robot in the world, but it probably works really well. 217 had a traction control system running just 4 days after kickoff, so they probably have that perfected and a lot of drive time. The CIM-powered pickup is probably really fast and efficient. I don't know how accurate the dump is, but it's unlikely to jam. I predict they'll be driving (often literal) circles around their opponents collecting tons of balls really fast, and then use their tcs to quickly pin someone for a dump and go back to collecting.

I wasn't making any attacks at the bot. I was just saying that we've come to expect great things from the Thunder Chickens. I guess I expected that they would've come up with some other genius way of manipulating game pieces (2008's grabber, 2007's 8(?) linkage arm, or 06's turrenting shooter of awesome). I'm actually a bit more excited about this bot than most because it's so simple and because I know 217 would never put a bot on the field that wasn't capable of laying a smack down on their opponents... I just want to see how they do it...

[mplanchard]

Paul

Always a great please to see your robots. Thank you for the picture. Marie

[AmoryG]

Guys, let's hope that's their real robot, ok? 20 balls in 2.5 seconds is crazy enough without all the fantastic extras they may have!

[IKE]

Very nice bot. I am looking forward to seeing it in competition.

[TheOtherGuy]

Guys, let's hope that's their real robot, ok? 20 balls in 2.5 seconds is crazy enough without all the fantastic extras they may have!

About that... 20 balls in 2.5 seconds is nice and all... but I still can't see where this robot is going to hold 20 balls :rolleyes:... more magic?

[jgannon]

more magic?
Any excuse to post this link is a good one:

http://catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html

Looks like 217 still has their switch on "magic".

[GODUX123]

That's awesome!
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[Justin Montois]

Guys, let's hope that's their real robot, ok? 20 balls in 2.5 seconds is crazy enough without all the fantastic extras they may have!

Agreed!

[Andrew Schreiber]

Wow. If this 217's real robot I am a bit disappointed... But at the same time I'm excited to see how they put the design into use on the field.


You nailed it right there, probably without realizing it. Ive said countless times, the reason the teams win is NOT because they have the best robot, it is how you use it. I can tell you that for as "awesome" as 217's robot was last year we were able to beat them at Kettering. How? Simple, their drivers werent at their peak, ours were. (Btw, this is NOT a jab at 217, merely using them as an example)

Imagine if a team has all the equipment in the world but no one trained to use it. You know, those CNC machines sure do look spiffy, they are pretty intimidating, but I would be willing to bet you good money that a single skilled machinist and a good engineer can put together a better robot than that team. Personally I would prefer to see 217 put out a functionally awesome robot over a aesthetically awesome robot.

That being said, I too call hoax, Paul said it would be shown when it was done, well we all know that these robots are NEVER done.

[Bill Baedke]

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LULcvikq70

This is Team 3069's robot, built with help from the Thunderchickens at the Ford Van Dyke Plant.

[akeisic]

Bill: I wouldn't have expected you to be instigating mischief of this kind.