View Full Version : pic/video: Team 148 - Robowranglers 2009 - TORNADO
Brandon Martus
16-02-2009, 21:24
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Seat Ninja
16-02-2009, 21:31
OMG that's the scariest bot I've seen this year. The scoring speed is impressive.
andrew348
16-02-2009, 21:32
Wow. A great machine. The speed is very impressive.
wo-bot 141
16-02-2009, 21:33
WOW.. speechless that's an amazing robot!:yikes:
s_forbes
16-02-2009, 21:41
That thing holds a rediculous amount of orbit balls! Thumbs up to whoever came up with that concept, it's a very efficient solution. We figured out that you would have to move balls quickly to be a threat, but jeez...
Also, I'm envious of your sheet metal abilities. It makes for some beautiful robots.
The transfer from the hopper the shooter is so epically awesome. I love it. It makes me want to powdercoat/anodize everything black... EVERYTHING.
Lil' Lavery
16-02-2009, 21:42
Oh my, 148 doesn't seem to be sponsored by RackSolutions anymore!
:eek: ;)
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JonellGregor
16-02-2009, 21:44
That is an awesome robot!
It works really well!
Hope to see you guys at a competition!
wendymom
16-02-2009, 21:48
The piggies are squealing
pacoliketaco
16-02-2009, 21:49
wow. quite impressive. i love the scoring/collection mechanism.
Tottanka
16-02-2009, 21:50
that
was
awesome!!!!!
I call it now, they are on Einstein.
RyanCesiel
16-02-2009, 21:52
I'm absolutely speechless.
cziggy343
16-02-2009, 21:53
AWESOME! thats all i can say about that:cool:
Mike Ross
16-02-2009, 21:59
At 3:10 in the video, my jaw hit the floor.
If your drivers can handle this beast half as well as they did Tumbleweed, then look out.
Andrew Schuetze
16-02-2009, 22:06
I was wondering who was going to put a new 'spin' on the 2002 Baxter Bomb Squad combo harvest / score design.
Josh Murphy
16-02-2009, 22:06
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Akash Rastogi
16-02-2009, 22:09
thats epic
I can't wait to see that thing on einstien
Mike Schreiber
16-02-2009, 22:15
I'm calling it right now, you're 3rd championship win.
AMAZING job!
roboticWanderor
16-02-2009, 22:23
what serves as the "door" at the bottom of the spiral hopper? a 3rd roller? or a pneumatic flap or what?
smurfgirl
16-02-2009, 22:29
I love the robot, but I keep hearing the name "Tumbleweed" in my mind. It's going to take some adjusting.
Brandon Martus
16-02-2009, 22:30
what serves as the "door" at the bottom of the spiral hopper? a 3rd roller? or a pneumatic flap or what?
A roller and some lexan keep the balls there until it's time to shoot.
This was labeled on the CAD as "the magic" and left TBD once the team could prototype a working solution.
Chief Samwize
16-02-2009, 22:32
Wow...:eek:
Thats all that needs to be said, awesome looking robot.
-Sam
Tom Bottiglieri
16-02-2009, 22:33
Looks alright, I guess.
Billfred
16-02-2009, 22:34
Mark my words: very few robots whose ball output is one ball wide will do well this season.
This is one of the very few.
Brandon Holley
16-02-2009, 22:40
Awesome robot guys...you really made an epic machine
I love the practice bot too...watch out for these guys.
Phil Ross
16-02-2009, 22:46
what kind of an autonomous are you guys running?
PS. fantastic job.
Chief Pride
16-02-2009, 22:47
effing rocks.
Rich Kressly
16-02-2009, 22:54
namaste 148.
nahstobor
16-02-2009, 23:09
i'm shaking at the knees
Looks very spiffy,
I can't wait for the Alumni under the hood tour at Championship. Best of luck at Dallas, and Houston.
Herodotus
16-02-2009, 23:21
Really impressive design. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys make it to Einstein again this year.
artdutra04
16-02-2009, 23:24
Once again you've created an amazing robot - your sheet metal construction has been a great inspiration for other teams with similar sheet metal capabilities. I can't wait to see your robot compete this year. Good luck.
AndrewMorrison
16-02-2009, 23:57
pshhh.... nothing spectacular there.
haha. I kidd, I kidd.
Awesome Robot, I really can't wait to see it
in competition!
AdamHeard
17-02-2009, 00:02
Wow....
Seriously impressive.
Great design. Great styling.
Paul Copioli
17-02-2009, 00:03
This machine is absolutely gorgeous! The lines are clean and elegant. Two regional wins and at least an Einstein appearance this year is my prediction. The state of Texas is in big trouble in 2009. The robot is very, very scary. I can't wait to see it in person.
Too bad we will not see it until the Championship.
AlexD744
17-02-2009, 00:04
I'm scared.
teampronto
17-02-2009, 00:07
I'm so glad to see a truly awesome robot this year. This one does it all.
Greg Marra
17-02-2009, 00:46
I hope to get a chance to see this robot in action in person!
Tom Bottiglieri
17-02-2009, 01:09
I am not sure how refs will count the balls going into the goals with power scorers like these...
James1902
17-02-2009, 01:31
...this is the only ship day video i've ever seen that made my mouth drop:eek: .
I'll defiantly have to check this one out at Atlanta
Taylor_Ratliff
17-02-2009, 01:38
Quick question: How do you remove balls when powered down?
That is an amazing robot.
Brandon Martus
17-02-2009, 01:56
Quick question: How do you remove balls when powered down?
That is an amazing robot.
The spiral spins freely when powered down, if there were any balls left in it.
Tetraman
17-02-2009, 02:25
I'll just say the obvious: Your robot is one of the slickest posted here and probably the best thus far.
Amazing design, kudos and good luck at your competitions. All eyes are on you this year.
waialua359
17-02-2009, 05:47
Best design I have seen so far. Very very elegant to say the least. I'd say the judges will award this robot all of the robot design awards at any regional it attends.
However, curious to see what 25, 217, 233 and 1114 has come up with also.
Lets just say if your mouth has dropped on this one, there are 2 more twinbots that will whop your jaws in a blink of an eye.
GaryVoshol
17-02-2009, 06:52
What a machine!
Oh, the poor scorers in Texas! Did you guys set out with the goal of getting a <G14> in every match? :rolleyes:
And the scariest thing? The scene right at the end of the video when comp and practice bots are both shooting. Kinda makes those collaboration teasers change from a dream team to a nightmare for everyone else! :ahh:
HotWings
17-02-2009, 07:58
can you please give our team the 2nd bot. We can just change the 1 to a 5 so it says 548 ?
Pjohn1959
17-02-2009, 09:57
Very Scary JVN. Look forward to seeing it in action at Lone Star.
Amanda Morrison
17-02-2009, 10:57
Last year, 148 was a threat. This year, they appear to be absolutely formidable. Knowing the rigorous training they go through, instinct tells me they'll be a nightmare to face on the field.
148 is the absolute collaboration between students and engineers, and as witnessed the results are astounding. Copioli described it as a 'clean and elegant' machine a few posts up, and even that flattering description barely does this justice. Let me add 'graceful' and 'polished' to the long list of adjectives we're throwing out.
Just like Mr. Carnevale, I also can't wait for the alumni tour. And you kids know I'll be grilling you, so get ready. I'll be in Dallas, and I'm bringing my popcorn.
that bot is amazing.:eek:
JaneYoung
17-02-2009, 11:02
Folks will be able to hear the crowds in Texas all the way to - mm - Canada. :)
Tornado is a good name, very good name. Terrifying Tornado would be accurate.
Jimmy Nichols
17-02-2009, 12:45
Wow! Very impressive. Congratulations 148 on what looks to be a great robot. Good Luck!
Andy Baker
17-02-2009, 14:08
Very very impressive job, guys. This thing is awesome. I especially loved the camera-in-the-ball shot.
Keep inspiring.
Andy B.
Kevin_Morris
17-02-2009, 14:31
Last year, 148 was a threat. This year, they appear to be absolutely formidable. Knowing the rigorous training they go through, instinct tells me they'll be a nightmare to face on the field.
148 is the absolute collaboration between students and engineers, and as witnessed the results are astounding. Copioli described it as a 'clean and elegant' machine a few posts up, and even that flattering description barely does this justice. Let me add 'graceful' and 'polished' to the long list of adjectives we're throwing out.
Just like Mr. Carnevale, I also can't wait for the alumni tour. And you kids know I'll be grilling you, so get ready. I'll be in Dallas, and I'm bringing my popcorn.
English majors... :rolleyes: ;)
What Amanda is trying to say is Team 148 is awesome =D and makes really cool robots...
Great video guys... showcases the bot beautifully... it's so gorgeous... yet intimidating :D
ChristinaR
17-02-2009, 14:35
The only thing I could muster after seeing that video was "...whoa." :eek:
Good luck you guys! (pfffft like you need it :))
Collin Fultz
17-02-2009, 14:37
Robot looks great guys. See you in Atlanta!
Meredith Novak
17-02-2009, 15:35
About 4 o'clock this morning, my son was looking at robot videos. I kept hearing him say: "That is terrifying." I was going to ask him what he was talking about. I think I know...
Amazing job, John, et. al.
See you in Atlanta!!!
tanner2point0
17-02-2009, 20:09
That's a real beautiful design, we looked at something similar but scrapped it when we decided against a screw.
Sean Schuff
17-02-2009, 23:26
wow. just wow.
Tornado is fast and effective! I expect nothing less from an amazing team!
This year, both the Texas Regionals have a large number of rookies. Many of these rookies barely have a legal robot let alone a working autonomous. I hope the veteran Texas teams spend more time helping rookies than working on their practice bot.
Two basic rookies without autonomous and an amazing 148 robot still stand a chance of losing a match.
How does 148 plan on moving the empty cell to the fueling station ?
roboticWanderor
18-02-2009, 01:19
How does 148 plan on moving the empty cell to the fueling station ?
from the looks of it they wont have any empty cells left!!! :p
GarrettF2395
18-02-2009, 03:57
Holy smokes! :ahh:
And I thought Oklahoma had the scariest tornado's!
Boy was I wrong...
Amazing job RoboWranglers!
I can't wait to see video of this thing competing on TBA.
Great Machine!!! I love everything about this robot from the color scheme to the insane fire rate. Add in one of FIRST's best drivers, and you have a recipe for success. I'm expecting big things from 148 this year.
antoineft
18-02-2009, 08:49
Wow seriously awesome machine! I still don't get how some of you teams have time to build such amazing robots and on top of that build a complete 2nd one. Thoroughly impressed!
Also love the ball cam!
Antoine
Mentor
Team 2609 - BeaverworX
How does 148 plan on moving the empty cell to the fueling station ?
If I was 148, I wouldn't care, because I'd plan on playing every match without any super cells.
This bot is awesome. When John first showed us their prototypes and then their completed robot a few weeks ago we knew it was going to be one of the top few bots out there.
Very few teams, dumpers or shooters will be able to keep pace with this machine.
GODUX123
18-02-2009, 11:45
That is definately a champion-potential robot!!!
This year, both the Texas Regionals have a large number of rookies. Many of these rookies barely have a legal robot let alone a working autonomous. I hope the veteran Texas teams spend more time helping rookies than working on their practice bot.
Knowing 148, I'm sure they'll be the first team seeking out and offering help to teams needing assistance on Thursday morning of their events. They have a large and dedicated group of students who will be an asset to any rookie who needs their help. After working with their pit crew on Einstein last year, we saw how amazing they are in action.
At 3:10 in the video, my jaw hit the floor.
If your drivers can handle this beast half as well as they did Tumbleweed, then look out.
Our driver this season is Mr. Parker Francis, he's the same young man who limped our 3-legged-dog through last year. I think everyone on 148 feels a lot better about our season knowing that Parker is "at the sticks".
Joining him as gunner will be Ms. Keri Porter, though she is only a freshman we are expecting great things... Anyone who knows me knows how difficult it is to earn a driver spot. To earn a spot as a freshman is unheard of.
This year, both the Texas Regionals have a large number of rookies. Many of these rookies barely have a legal robot let alone a working autonomous. I hope the veteran Texas teams spend more time helping rookies than working on their practice bot.
Two basic rookies without autonomous and an amazing 148 robot still stand a chance of losing a match.
Our pit crew is uncharacteristically large this year. Not only did we have an abnormally high number of students earn spots, but we also anticipated the need of other teams. I imagine it will not be an uncommon sight to see Robowrangler Pit Crew members assisting other teams in Dallas, Houston, & Atlanta.
How does 148 plan on moving the empty cell to the fueling station ?
In the robot. How do you plan on moving it? ;)
-John
Travis Covington
18-02-2009, 17:53
The robot looks great! I am definitely a fan of the red and black ;) I did, however, like the robot much better the last time I saw videos of it. It’s borderline excessive now. Who needs to unload their hopper so fast, anyway? :p
I'll enjoy watching this bot in Einstein. Hopefully on the same side of the field this time. (err, with the same color trailer, I mean)
Wow, Nice robot and I love the integration of the helix hopper to the dumper. Very Nice Job, just a random question, how many balls are gonna be available to each team? 10.20.30.40?
mark johnson
18-02-2009, 20:30
Jaw still on desk after hitting replay button for the tenth time!!! Sweet bot, great design guys. I would say good luck , but you will make your own luck with that beast. Also great video, and awsome song choice.
Tottanka
18-02-2009, 20:31
Wow, Nice robot and I love the integration of the helix hopper to the dumper. Very Nice Job, just a random question, how many balls are gonna be available to each team? 10.20.30.40?
20.
20. Up to 7 in the robot, 13 or more with the PS. Until the match starts, that is.
Wow, Nice robot and I love the integration of the helix hopper to the dumper. Very Nice Job, just a random question, how many balls are gonna be available to each team? 10.20.30.40?
Each robot on both sides gets 20 moon rocks, with 7 moonrocks being available to place them in or on their bots at the start of each game. That is gonna be alot of balls in play right off the bat.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL TEAMS THIS YEAR.
gorrilla
18-02-2009, 20:47
i think i just had an brain aneurysm:ahh:
i cant think of anything to say really, to much awsomeness-esness in one robot for my brain to handle
Wow, Nice robot and I love the integration of the helix hopper to the dumper. Very Nice Job, just a random question, how many balls are gonna be available to each team? 10.20.30.40?
I'm assuming you've read the rules and are asking more about why we have the large capacity...
Simple: We wanted to be able to fill a goal in one shot.
We're hoping our alliance partners will generously allow us to use some of their 40, and we're hoping our opponents will be generous enough to throw a few on the floor for us, as you can see gobbling them up isn't an issue for TORNADO.
Or were you asking something else?
-John
Akash Rastogi
18-02-2009, 21:06
I'm assuming you've read the rules
Crap....we were supposed to do that again this year?
I've definitely loved working on this robot. She's a work of art from an engineering standpoint. It's hard on us when we have to crate the lovely powder coated robot. Bare sheet-metal just isn't as enticing. Competition won't come fast enough. I can't wait to see what else is out there. The diversity of creative minds within FIRST is a great part of the competition.
Oh, and before I get asked again...No, this is not as hard to drive as Tumbleweed. Three wheeled swerves are unforgiving. :]
-Parker
Travis Covington
18-02-2009, 21:21
I've definitely loved working on this robot. She's a work of art from an engineering standpoint. It's hard on us when we have to crate the lovely powder coated robot. Bare sheet-metal just isn't as enticing. Competition won't come fast enough. I can't wait to see what else is out there. The diversity of creative minds within FIRST is a great part of the competition.
Oh, and before I get asked again...No, this is not as hard to drive as Tumbleweed. Three wheeled swerves are unforgiving. :]
-Parker
Tell John to work harder next year so you have time to powdercoat the practice bot, too. Problem solved! :D
Edit: That is not to say John does all the work... clearly not. I just imagine he is the bottleneck. :ahh:
I kid, I kid...
Kevin_Morris
18-02-2009, 21:27
Pretty much... he's either sitting at his desk or shooting kids with nerf guns...:eek:
...in a nurturing and supportive way... ;)
I kid as well...
Lil' Lavery
18-02-2009, 23:33
Pretty much... he's either sitting at his desk or shooting kids with nerf guns...:eek:
What's John's nerf gun of choice? I'm betting it's a Maverick.
s_forbes
18-02-2009, 23:36
What's John's nerf gun of choice? I'm betting it's a Maverick.
nope... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6D-egwfm3E
I'm assuming you've read the rules and are asking more about why we have the large capacity...
Simple: We wanted to be able to fill a goal in one shot.
We're hoping our alliance partners will generously allow us to use some of their 40, and we're hoping our opponents will be generous enough to throw a few on the floor for us, as you can see gobbling them up isn't an issue for TORNADO.
Or were you asking something else?
-John
Sorry John, that is exactly what i was asking. Yes I did read the rules. Donating is great. I was just wondering how many balls are really going to be available to store for a robot? Maybe this topic should be a different thread. :D
Lil' Lavery
19-02-2009, 00:06
nope... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6D-egwfm3E
:eek:
Honestly, I think I'm more impressed with John's titan mod than their robot. That kind of range and velocity with a Nerf gun is insane.
Travis Hoffman
19-02-2009, 00:20
...and we're hoping our opponents will be generous enough to throw a few on the floor for us, as you can see gobbling them up isn't an issue for TORNADO.
-John
Happy Birthday, John.
As Bernie Mac once said, "Listen up, America!" This robot and its Hoover-like floor-gathering ilk are the poster children for the conservation and shrewd deployment of orbit ball "ammunition" by opposing payload specialists everywhere. It's bots like these that make our team investigate how to further improve our shooting percentage, too. Any ball missed during a power dump is one more potential bullet in the chamber for someone who ain't us. :)
Don't be afraid to try and deny access to the balls even after they've hit the floor, either. At least scatter 'em around a little to make drivers like Parker work for it. Better yet, send them all toward your PS zone corners. ;)
And yes, that stuff probably could be in another thread, so to get back on track - it looks like a CIM powers your helix - what gearing did you use to power the helix drive, and what material was used for the central spire?
Don't be afraid to try and deny access to the balls even after they've hit the floor, either. At least scatter 'em around a little to make drivers like Parker work for it. ;)
And yes, that stuff probably could be in another thread, so to get back on track - it looks like a CIM powers your helix - what gearing did you use to power the helix drive, and what material was used for the central spire?
Parker's not scared of work...
The spinner rotates at about 450 RPM. This speed was unscientifically determined during our prototyping.
The spinner is a 9-sided (yep, couldn't resist) drum made of 3 pieces of 063 Lexan. Onto that lexan is riveted some brush assemblies.
We originally had Lexan fingers sticking off, but during our 3 weeks of testing and tuning we learned that sometimes the fingers can tangle with these silly game objects. We figured, "even if it jams 1 time in 1000, why risk it?" and went to brushes.
Any other questions?
-John
In the robot. How do you plan on moving it? ;)
-John
With a robot as well. :cool:
My question about the empty cell should have been more specific.
Does your robot collect the empty cell similar to moonrock or does it have a different dumping strategy?
This year, both the Texas Regionals have a large number of rookies. Many of these rookies barely have a legal robot let alone a working autonomous. I hope the veteran Texas teams spend more time helping rookies than working on their practice bot.
Luckily for 148 "Tornado" turned out to be pretty much bullet-proof all weekend. I think the only maintenance our pit crew really did was change the battery and grease the gearboxes. This means our pit crew didn't have a whole lot to do, right?
Wrong. I'm extremely proud of the fact that our students were all out working their butts off helping other teams at the Dallas event. I know they all slept soundly on Saturday night.
I know we were not the only team doing this. There was plenty of help to go around.
Andrew, looks like your hopes came true.
-John
I'm extremely proud of the fact that our students were all out working their butts off helping other teams at the Dallas event. I know they all slept soundly on Saturday night.
That's great to hear ! I watched a webcast of Dallas and I was impressed at the quality of the rookies and veterans. The Dallas final matches were fantastic ! Tornado proved to be the difference maker by one or two points in each match.
I hope someone archived the finals !
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