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http://www.vimeo.com/3277978
Jay Trzaskos
19-02-2009, 00:26
mmmmm sexy...
Did 148 help out with the sheet metal work?
That sound you just heard was me. :eek::eek::eek::eek:
My first thought was: "AAugh!"
My second was: "Looks like 2006 with a different hopper and a redesigned shooter."
My third was: "Oh, NO!!"
Renee Becker-Blau
19-02-2009, 00:28
:yikes: Can't wait to see it in Midwest... :D
Lil' Lavery
19-02-2009, 00:30
On Vimeo you can actually read who the video is thanking.
I still say it would look better in silver.
J Flex 188
19-02-2009, 00:31
My goodness, I knew there was a reason to stay up past midnight besides work.
I especially loved the moment at 1:34, why do I have the feeling I will see that move executed time in, time out, over and over, and why do I also have the feeling that it's already been done time in, time out. Haha!
Looks amazing as always Karthik, Can't wait to see it in action in person.
SEAN DA PAUL!!!!
Tom Bottiglieri
19-02-2009, 00:33
The bumper mount looks illegal.
Just sayin.
=Martin=Taylor=
19-02-2009, 00:38
Unfortunately Shooters won't be effective this year. Or so I have read:D
.......lol OR NOT!
Another quality Simbot. What would Midwest be without it? :]
It's official. I'll see you guys next Saturday... I just got my bus tickets. :D
Looking good 1114!
-q
p.s. Did I notice some auto camera tracking going on in the video?
Ice Berg
19-02-2009, 00:40
Is that an extra lens on the camera?
Everything looks amazing! This is the first turreting shooter that seems to consistently make shots. Great job!
Finally!!! a video of a shooter that works! That thing looks devastating, well done.
Mind telling us what type of lens that is on the camera? Im guessing its a wide angle.
Karthik, major props man. This is exactly what I wanted to build this season, except we didn't get the camera to track (still need to get it working) as well as you guys did. Loving the amount of chain and the hidden chain runs. Did you guys find a way of tensioning the very small runs. BTW, the floating sprocket seemed to work very well. Can't wait to play against you guys this year.
I'm fairly certain this is what half of FIRST thought they were building this season. I guess we'll see how many others can live up to this one. To see this robot in action is mind-blowing. Another elegant Simbot design proves to everyone how it should be done. I'm loving the fact that this thing will be in the hands of one of FIRST's best drivers. Game on.
You can always tell the really quality robots, because they're the ones that makes you depressed.
I love you guys. Good luck in Chicago.
-John
s_forbes
19-02-2009, 00:50
I knew it! Pause the Robowranglers video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVLZFyEI1Y) at 0:39, and you can see a picture of the Simbotics bot hanging on the whiteboard! Huzzah!
Fantastic robot, a wonderful demonstration (yet again) of the optimum FIRST robot for the given game. The video also demonstrated why I think turreted shooters will do well this year... note how they can pin a robot and score into it's trailer. Actually, they just need to be near another robot to score in it's trailer, but you get the idea.
What's powering the shooter? That's an insane fire rate!
Ian Curtis
19-02-2009, 00:53
Wow! That is super impressive! If it's camera code, it's dang sweet, and if it's an operator he/she really knows what's up! I can see 1114 have a clear radius of about 2 robot lengths at all times when they're on the field, you get to close and you'll have a trailer full!
Akash Rastogi
19-02-2009, 00:55
Iz it can be 1114 win tiem nao plz?
Another bamf robot name btw. Great job Karthik and all. Did 2056 also turn out a beast like this?
Fantastic robot, a wonderful demonstration (yet again) of the optimum FIRST robot for the given game. The video also demonstrated why I think turreted shooters will do well this year...
Yes, all turreted shooters will be just as good as 1114.
Akash Rastogi
19-02-2009, 01:04
You can always tell the really quality robots, because they're the ones that makes you depressed.
I love you guys. Good luck in Chicago.
-John
lmfao, this is what I was talking to you about John. haha, but its awe inspiring as well. =)
i was wondering how effective you guys are when you are moving or your target is moving or both
Herodotus
19-02-2009, 01:11
Epic Win.
Seriously, 1114 never fails to impress. I absolutely cannot wait to see this baby in action, either in Atlanta or at IRI.
roboticWanderor
19-02-2009, 01:12
How does the roller system in the back align all of those balls that nicely?????? i see the spiral rollers but is that it??
Jonathan Norris
19-02-2009, 01:14
Another amazing robot by the Simbots, you guys continue to impresses me year after year. You manage every year to assemble a talented group of mentors, who inspire smart passionate students to not only create a robot that impresses us all, but a professional TEAM that blows me away.
That's going to be one tough bot to beat with the best Drive Team in FIRST... but that certainly doesn't mean we're not going to try :p
Fantastic robot, a wonderful demonstration (yet again) of the optimum FIRST robot for the given game. The video also demonstrated why I think turreted shooters will do well this year
More like... This is why I think 1114 will do well this year.
1114 is always the cream of the crop. 2 weeks ago we saw their robot and it was something most teams would be ecstatic to put out on their field. A week ago it was even better. After these redesigns it looks ready to dominate just about everyone out there (and note that they could probably win both their regionals without ever firing a shot from range).
This shows the amount of time and effort they put into their design. Nothing is ever good enough, and they strive for perfection. This mentality is what makes them great year after year.
Imagine how good they will be by mid April...
Imagine how good they will be by mid April...They'll be really good because everyone else is dead of heart attacks from the imaginings of this nature. Either that or everyone else is right up there next to them in the alliance stations.:rolleyes:
I'm very impressed. Very simple (again), elegent (again), and quick (again). It might just win you guys a regional or 7... =)
So after seeing it a bit this year from you and your partners in crime, 148, I have to ask, what are the specs on that sheet metal?
Akash Rastogi
19-02-2009, 01:48
So after seeing it a bit this year from you and your partners in crime, 148, I have to ask, what are the specs on that sheet metal?
JVN said that most of the stuff they work with is .063, .090, and .125
RC and I are definitely inspired to try out working with sheet metal over the summer thanks to 148.
thefro526
19-02-2009, 01:49
Looks Sick. It'll definitely be a force to be reckoned with throughout the season.
Great Bot Guys!
Looks crazy similar to what we came up with...
Keaton
James1902
19-02-2009, 02:12
I LOVE the back roller system!! The shooting is so smooth. Not to mention mad driving skillz. Not that anyone's surprised of course
Well done can't wait to take a closer look at Atlanta:D
Travis Hoffman
19-02-2009, 02:25
I miss the shower curtain.
mmmmm sexy...
Did 148 help out with the sheet metal work?
They sure did. Our sheet metal was done by our sponsor Innovation First at their sheet metal facility in Greenville, Tx, which also happens to be the hope of Team 148. After working closely with Teams 148 and 217, and seeing the amazing sheet metal work on their robots, we decided to jump on board. The entire experience has been amazing for our team, as it opened our students and mentors to a totally new world of design. The entire super structure is made of 0.063 Al, and weighs only ~16 pounds.
I still say it would look better in silver.
Well, we actually wanted to powder coat the superstructure Simbot Red, but we went with black to ensure maximum visibility of the Orbit Balls. Plus, it's pretty neat having a robot that looks like it was made out of a VEX field. :P
I knew it! Pause the Robowranglers video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVLZFyEI1Y) at 0:39, and you can see a picture of the Simbotics bot hanging on the whiteboard! Huzzah!
We were wondering if anyone would notice that. :P
For those who asked about the lens, it's general purpose fisheye lens, that's commonly used on "peepholes" in doors.
Special thanks to all the teams who we discussed with and inspired us throughout the build season, including 148, 217, 254, 1503, 2056, 2166 & 2809. Part of what makes this program unique are the close bonds that are formed between competitors, and we definitely have these bonds with each of you.
We absolutely cannot wait for Midwest to play with all the great teams who are attending and to finally find out what Lunacy is really all about.
Getcha popcorn ready...
How does the roller system in the back align all of those balls that nicely?????? i see the spiral rollers but is that it??
i think that in the center of all the rollers there is some frictiony material and the rest of the roller is frictionless so the balls that touch the center go up and the others slide to the bottom and are funneled to the center.
Akash Rastogi
19-02-2009, 02:34
Part of what makes this program unique are the close bonds that are formed between competitors
Amen, I can really relate to this after going through the 09 build season.
I can't wait to see 2166's bot. Karthik, any chance of posting up a pic of what they created this year? I like to keep up-to-date with former alliance partners. Many don't know this but a deciding factor in us and Beatty picking 2166 last year on Archi was who they were mentored by (Simbotics) so I'm curious to see what they pulled out this year. Wish them and the NiagraFIRST teams best of luck for me please.:)
I can't wait to see 2166's bot. Karthik, any chance of posting up a pic of what they created this year? I like to keep up-to-date with former alliance partners. Many don't know this but a deciding factor in us and Beatty picking 2166 last year on Archi was who they were mentored by (Simbotics) so I'm curious to see what they pulled out this year. Wish them and the NiagraFIRST teams best of luck for me please.:)
I'll leave it up to 2166 to post a photo of their robot. I'm not at liberty to divulge details, but I can say that they stuck to their recipe of simplicity and have another effective and elegant robot. This year they worked very closely with us, building most of their robot in our shop. It was a treat having them around.
Uberbots
19-02-2009, 03:08
i like the camera tracking turret (:
its scary how accurate that thing is, and unlike dumper robots there is no alignment that you have to do... just jam your robot up close and dump away, 100% accuracy.
i wanna see that turret firing at a moving target :)
GaryVoshol
19-02-2009, 06:50
Would all you teams please stop! My chin will be bruised for weeks from dropping on the floor so much. :eek:
I am SO glad I'm a referee and not a scorer this year.
I wonder if anyone at Traverse City will be watching the action on the floor, or if they'll all be looking for a webcast from Midwest? :p
Jimmy Nichols
19-02-2009, 07:23
Karthik, awesome bot as usual. Too bad I won't get to see it in person, unless we qualify and raise the funds for Atlanta. 1038 has a bit of a fiscal problem that we are having to work through this year, so we are only able to attend one regional, Buckeye.
Good luck!
astephen68
19-02-2009, 07:40
Wow amazing looking robot. Good luck at the Midwest regional.
Wow, another great robot that will certainly be one of the best, if not thee best in the field. I don't know what else to say but that the rest of us at Midwest will have to sharpen our pencils on strategies to beat this firepower.
Luckily, for the rest of us, the robot's effectiveness in scoring only accounts for what in my opinion is about 1/3 of the formula it will take to win.
GODUX123
19-02-2009, 08:11
I think those bumpers are legal.
Beth Sweet
19-02-2009, 08:11
I'm calling a penalty for assaulting the videographer with all those balls at the end ;)
Looks great Simbots, tack another tally on the awesome bots list!
Great bot guys! I like the turreted shooter...especially shooting behind. I'm thinking it might come in handy when you want to avoid some <G14> penalties and score in your own trailer? ;) Looking forward to seeing the bot down in Atlanta.
2056Durfey
19-02-2009, 08:47
Wow, another great robot as usual! To bad you guys are missing Waterloo this year, though we'll look forward to seeing you in GTR!!
Warren Boudreau
19-02-2009, 08:55
Another Simbotic beauty. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in Atlanta.
Getcha popcorn ready...
Mine's ready.
Can't wait to see it in action.
Midwest is going to be crazy good this year.
Rich Kressly
19-02-2009, 09:18
I had the privilege of seeing some of the development of the 1114 robot during the build season. From where it was in week 2-3 to ship is an astounding development that surely was a ton of work to get things to where they are. Congrats to 1114 for their perseverance and to 148/IFI for their support. Can't wait to see you guys in person in Atlanta!
Lil' Lavery
19-02-2009, 09:32
Karthik, remember how my response to you showing me the robot was "I'll have to think about this one"
I thought of it. ;)
lukevanoort
19-02-2009, 10:52
Hey, Karthik, I'm disappointed, where's the SimSwerve? Now how do you expect to get <G14> penalties on Einstein?! :)
Karthik, that alignment of the balls is pretty crazy. How did you get it working that well?
smurfgirl
19-02-2009, 13:03
How do you build robots that look so intimidating? (And I'm talking about before I see them in action... we all know that any 1114 robot is scary on the field.) Also, any story/reasons for the name "Simbot Panthro"?
How do you build robots that look so intimidating? (And I'm talking about before I see them in action... we all know that any 1114 robot is scary on the field.) Also, any story/reasons for the name "Simbot Panthro"?
ThumderCats? We have to do ETR... then whatever season we are. For example ETR6 for this season.
How do you build robots that look so intimidating? (And I'm talking about before I see them in action... we all know that any 1114 robot is scary on the field.) Also, any story/reasons for the name "Simbot Panthro"?
Most of the story can be deduced by watching the episodes of Degrassi that we were on.
http://www.simbotics.org/2009season#degrassi
http://www.simbotics.org/photos/Degrassi
The name was chosen in homage to the show for providing us such a unique opportunity.
Travis Hoffman
19-02-2009, 13:24
Karthik, that alignment of the balls is pretty crazy. How did you get it working that well?
Everything they learned, they learned from Clare from "Degrassi"....
I'm sure a serious answer is forthcoming.
I think she also named the robot....or one of her cohorts did. On this one, I'm actually serious. :cool:
So we have "Devastator" and "Panthro". Could someone please name their robot "Skeletor" so the 80's retro bliss continues? ;)
Vikesrock
19-02-2009, 13:39
So we have "Devastator" and "Panthro". Could someone please name their robot "Skeletor" so the 80's retro bliss continues? ;)
Only if it means that we'll manage to qualify for nationals and then partner up with both "Devastator" and "Panthro". Actually I think my team could be convinced even if only got to partner with one of them ;)
This is another impressive Simbot. I agree with John that there are probably a lot of FIRST teams that thought that this is what they were building.
Lil' Lavery
19-02-2009, 13:41
So we have "Devastator" and "Panthro". Could someone please name their robot "Skeletor" so the 80's retro bliss continues? ;)
Don't worry, instead of insisting on renaming 1712's bot to "Alice Cooper" instead of "Alice," I'm going to take a sharpie to her and write "Cobra Commander."
JaneYoung
19-02-2009, 13:47
Simbot Panthro - "a black robot who kicks butt and shows no mercy..." ? :)
Alex Cormier
19-02-2009, 13:54
Most of the story can be deduced by watching the episodes of Degrassi that we were on.
http://www.simbotics.org/2009season#degrassi
http://www.simbotics.org/photos/Degrassi
The name was chosen in homage to the show for providing us such a unique opportunity.
The arena setup in those pictures are so much better then the FIRST set up last year!
Nice bot, wish ours looked cool like that 1 lol
Nice bot, wish ours looked cool like that 1 lol
I think about 90% of FIRSTers would say that.
we are a second year team tho.....lol but o well
XXShadowXX
19-02-2009, 14:08
Still wondering, can your turret hit a moving target, with the camera mounted directly to the turret?
acdcfan259
19-02-2009, 14:08
Can I cry now?
Lowfategg
19-02-2009, 14:13
Now that is what I have been waiting to see. Its what I would call a turreted super power dumper.
Great job Simbotics once again!
How does it deal with moving goals?
Unfortunately Shooters won't be effective this year. Or so I have read:D
.......lol OR NOT!
um...yeah...you keep thinking that. I highly disagree. I mean im not sayin that dumpers are the useless ones. I think they both have their pros and cons. but having a good shooter like 1114 will be an advantage.
Jeff 801
19-02-2009, 14:49
Did you guys build a pratice bot as seen at 1:21 and 1:55 in the video or are there twins?
By that I mean I see another full looking robot and not the bot that is pulling the trailer around during the video.
henryBsick
19-02-2009, 15:20
Pretty nasty machine.
I hope that silly turret thing pans out for you.
artdutra04
19-02-2009, 15:54
Great robot, 1114; I love the sheet metal work. :)
I can't want to see your robot compete this year, as that pin-and-fire routine looks deadly.
// Now onto a side note:
I find it funny that when most people see videos of 148 or 254 or 1114 or 217, they get scared or begin doubting their own design decisions. When I see videos like this, I see a challenge. It's like someone egging me on. As a result, it really helps me come up with better (although minor) design revisions. I'd really like to thank these teams for their inspiration!
Did you guys build a pratice bot as seen at 1:21 and 1:55 in the video or are there twins?
By that I mean I see another full looking robot and not the bot that is pulling the trailer around during the video.
Yup, our practice robot is parked in the corner of the field during the videos. We wanted to run them both at the same time, but issues with control system popped up.
Karthik, that alignment of the balls is pretty crazy. How did you get it working that well?
Design is an iterative process. We went through many iterations of our hopper and ball conveyor. What we first built in week three is very different than what we have now. It just took a look of tweaking. We tried different motor configurations, sorting rollers, ball paths, friction materials and funnels. We'll be watching closely at Midwest, looking for ways to further optimize the solution.
RyanCesiel
19-02-2009, 16:23
I assume that camera is tracking and that the turret moves accordingly. Is that right?
If so, how well does it do against moving trailers? What's the range?
Great robot, once again!
Elgin Clock
19-02-2009, 16:37
// Now onto a side note:
I find it funny that when most people see videos of 148 or 254 or 1114 or 217, they get scared or begin doubting their own design decisions.
6 weeks of dedication & hard work culminated on your own robot & thrown out by seeing one simple picture or video??
That's ridiculous.
I totally agree with you Art.
No instance of seeing one picture or a 5 minute video of someone else's bot is worth throwing in the towel & giving up on the whole season.
Of course, the opposite is true as well.
I'm sure some teams have seen (for argument's sake, we'll use your same team number examples here) 148 or 254 or 1114 or 217 & saw that their own team has designed something very similar & they believe that they have a foolproof design because of that.
Not so fast kiddies. Just because the defending world champions or other legendary & "proven" teams have the same mechanism you have on your robot, does not mean you, or even they will be the world champions this year.
It's a whole new game every year, & this one is no exception.
There are no guarantees who will do good & who will do not-so good until the rubber meets the road, or, more appropriately, the rover wheels hit the regolith in exactly one week from today!
There are no guarantees who will do good & who will do not-so good until the rubber meets the road, or, more appropriately, the rover wheels hit the regolith in exactly one week from today!
True... but if Vegas had a board up I'd put some money on 1114.
A non-guarantee can still have good odds.
So..... what's the spec on those sheets of metal?
Dan Petrovic
19-02-2009, 16:55
Do you guys intend to load up using the human player at all?
Jonathan Norris
19-02-2009, 17:05
I find it funny that when most people see videos of 148 or 254 or 1114 or 217, they get scared or begin doubting their own design decisions. When I see videos like this, I see a challenge. It's like someone egging me on. As a result, it really helps me come up with better (although minor) design revisions. I'd really like to thank these teams for their inspiration!
Totally with you there Art, I got the chance to see initial rendition of this bot a couple weeks ago and I had the exact same reaction. It challenged me to work harder on our bot to make it more effective. I am still thinking of how we can make our bot better, the robot is never 'done' there is always something that can be done to improve it.
Woody1458
19-02-2009, 17:10
Could someone please explain to me the purpose of the window motor on the turret?
Alex Cormier
19-02-2009, 17:12
Could someone please explain to me the purpose of the window motor on the turret?
Looks like it is a deflector. With the deflector in one position, the balls will be forced downward (possibly to hit a trailer at point blank) and in the opposite side the deflector will allow the balls to go further down the field. I am in the process of figuring out how to implement this onto our robot.
Could someone please explain to me the purpose of the window motor on the turret?
I'm gonna throw one out here and say it changes the pitch of the deflector screen wrapped around the back of the ball.
Totally with you there Art, I got the chance to see initial rendition of this bot a couple weeks ago and I had the exact same reaction. It challenged me to work harder on our bot to make it more effective. I am still thinking of how we can make our bot better, the robot is never 'done' there is always something that can be done to improve it.
We're on the same page as you guys. Seeing the amazing things that teams have being doing this year with ball transportation and traction control has inspired us to raise our personal bar that much more. For example, I know that seeing and hearing about 2809's awesome traction control system made our programmers focus that much more. This is co-opertition at it's best, teams learning from each other and constantly trying to raise their performance to a higher standard.
And as JNo said, the robot is never done. It's all about continuous reevaluation and improvement.
nahstobor
19-02-2009, 18:50
Sheet metal frames for the win. 612 just switched over to using a sheet metal frame on our drive train and after seeing how much it weighed, we aren't going back. Now we just need to implement it throughout the robot for next year.
Looks good 1114! Looking forward to seeing this robot in Atlanta.
um...yeah...you keep thinking that. I highly disagree. I mean im not sayin that dumpers are the useless ones. I think they both have their pros and cons. but having a good shooter like 1114 will be an advantage.
I think shooters w/ turrets will be more effective in later rounds because all the robots will be moving the entire match and having a turret will help a lot. During qualifications dumpers may score more because teams are moving less & no shows ect...and if you have a dumper and you need to be lined up right on target it may be to late in the match to catch up when you get the opportunity to dump your load.
Keaton
that looks like a pro finish! lets see it in action when we face off at GTR ! GO 1219!:cool:
Vince lau
19-02-2009, 21:09
another amazing robot by 1114, good luck at Midwest, I'll be cheering for you guys from Toronto and see you guys at GTR
Duncan Macdonald
19-02-2009, 21:11
2 weeks ago we saw their robot and it was something most teams would be ecstatic to put out on their field. A week ago it was even better. After these redesigns it looks ready to dominate just about everyone out there (and note that they could probably win both their regionals without ever firing a shot from range).
This shows the amount of time and effort they put into their design. Nothing is ever good enough, and they strive for perfection. This mentality is what makes them great year after year.
Imagine how good they will be by mid April...
Would it be possible to see the different redesigns? I know I would like to see the process that went into the making of this bot.
I think shooters w/ turrets will be more effective in later rounds because all the robots will be moving the entire match and having a turret will help a lot. During qualifications dumpers may score more because teams are moving less & no shows ect...and if you have a dumper and you need to be lined up right on target it may be to late in the match to catch up when you get the opportunity to dump your load.
Keaton
Thanks for re-affirming a stance I held from the beginning. Offensive dumpers will get far in qualifiers, but once elims start, it's all about defense. Simple dumpers won't get far in the elims against great driving robots that don't stop moving. We went with the targeting turret and traction control for this reason.
This 1114 Panther bot will dominate the elims.
Looks AWESOME! Can't wait to see you guys this weekend at Chicago. Good luck!!!
Josh Murphy
22-02-2009, 14:03
Nice looking machine once again 1114. I have a few questions if you don't mind.
What motor and gearbox did you use on your shooter?
What motor and gearbox did you use on your collector?
Do you guys shoot at one speed or does it vary depending on the distance?
Is the deflector/backboard on your shooter shooting the balls up, down, or parallel with the robot?
Jonathan Norris
22-02-2009, 14:11
What motor and gearbox did you use on your shooter?
What motor and gearbox did you use on your collector?
If you look closely they I believe they made custom gearboxes... Haven't got a close look at this bot yet.
MrFixIt2719
22-02-2009, 16:24
that is one mean looking bot
sick robot, my team had thought of a similar design but decided to go in a different direction. looking forward to seeing you guys in GTR.
,4lex S.
22-02-2009, 19:56
I will probably be the first to say that I am not scared...
Formidable? yes, Unbeatable? no.
I think this year will most likely show advantage to alliance teamwork and covering your teammates on the field.
This is a fantastic robot though; impressive in design, construction and general workmanship, I don't think we could ask for better competition at GTR. See you there.
what kind of motor did you use for the wheel that shoots the balls???
cziggy343
22-02-2009, 20:44
[QUOTE=,4lex S.;826547]
Formidable? yes, Unbeatable? no.
QUOTE]
thats what i was thinking... i just didn't want to sound like a raving lunatic... thanks for making me feel like im not alone:)
what kind of motor did you use for the wheel that shoots the balls???
I couldn't tell you either but your best visual clue is around 1:37 in the video. I am somewhat curious as well.
Great looking robot as always and Good Luck this season!
Nice looking machine once again 1114. I have a few questions if you don't mind.
What motor and gearbox did you use on your shooter?
What motor and gearbox did you use on your collector?
Do you guys shoot at one speed or does it vary depending on the distance?
Is the deflector/backboard on your shooter shooting the balls up, down, or parallel with the robot?
We used two RS-545's on our shooter, and two Fisher-Price motors on our intake. Both sets of motors were powered through custom transmissions using gears from the KOP FP Gearbox. Our launcher is currently using a fixed speed. The hood for the launcher can have it's angle varied, such that it's shooting at any of the trajectories you described.
I knew it! Pause the Robowranglers video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVLZFyEI1Y) at 0:39, and you can see a picture of the Simbotics bot hanging on the whiteboard! Huzzah!
Good eyes, but you missed something at 0:32.
Good eyes, but you missed something at 0:32.
The Solidworks shirt? Or the yellow shirt on the right in the second picture at that time?
Or the red shirt on the right just before 0:32?
Or maybe the prototype chassis?
sdcantrell56
23-02-2009, 10:34
It's 1114's entire superstructure sheetmetal all powdercoated.
I think shooters w/ turrets will be more effective in later rounds because all the robots will be moving the entire match and having a turret will help a lot. During qualifications dumpers may score more because teams are moving less & no shows ect...and if you have a dumper and you need to be lined up right on target it may be to late in the match to catch up when you get the opportunity to dump your load.
Keaton
I totally agree with you keaton. as long as you have a dud bot the dumpers will kick some butt. they will do teal well in qualifying. once people get comfy with deiving, they will try to keep out of the dumpers way. I also think people may be underestimating how easily you can get pinned
artdutra04
23-02-2009, 13:37
^ Is failing at deleting a post today...
flyingcrayons
23-02-2009, 19:44
:eek: :eek: :ahh: :ahh:
sorry.... couldnt resist... awesome robot!! :D
roboticWanderor
23-02-2009, 22:34
putting this type of robot on a team with a powerful dumper is probably the best strategy i can think of.
imagine this :
a powerful shooter like 1114 or 217 slams a robot up against the wall, t-bone-ing them. A power dumper like 148, 254, 968, etc. brings up the rear with a trailer load of balls to dump in. The pinned robot has almost no where to go and is at least severely impeded. the turret of the shooter can make up for the odd angle of collision, and makes up for their scoring power by giving the dumper a clean shot. the 3rd robot can assist in scoring, or at least provide defense to the scoring robots.
so, all you shooters, and all you dumpers, just hope you can get your alternate on your alliance, team picks this year are looking to be a lot more strategic than just stacking points up. somewhat like 2007 when the lifter was essential to the game breaking win.
i just managed to get this out now because i was watching how 1114 was attacking the trailers in the video, good work guys!
Aren_Hill
23-02-2009, 22:40
a powerful shooter like 1114 or 217 slams a robot up against the wall, t-bone-ing them. A power dumper like
most dumpers will be able to handle filling the trailers by themselves, i know ours = almost completely full trailer in one dump, so in theory all you need is good cooperative driving
True, dumpers can handle it by themselves. But you have to gather all those balls without getting slammed into the wall by the opponent. I think Lewis has a point, picking alliances this year is gonna matter a tad bit more than last year.
putting this type of robot on a team with a powerful dumper is probably the best strategy i can think of.
imagine this :
a powerful shooter like 1114 or 217 slams a robot up against the wall, t-bone-ing them. A power dumper like 148, 254, 968, etc. brings up the rear with a trailer load of balls to dump in. The pinned robot has almost no where to go and is at least severely impeded. the turret of the shooter can make up for the odd angle of collision, and makes up for their scoring power by giving the dumper a clean shot. the 3rd robot can assist in scoring, or at least provide defense to the scoring robots.
so, all you shooters, and all you dumpers, just hope you can get your alternate on your alliance, team picks this year are looking to be a lot more strategic than just stacking points up. somewhat like 2007 when the lifter was essential to the game breaking win.
i just managed to get this out now because i was watching how 1114 was attacking the trailers in the video, good work guys!
If 1114 pins a bot, by the time a power dumper like 148 or ourselves can get over there, 1114 will already have filled the goal to capacity.
Josh Goodman
24-02-2009, 11:12
If 1114 pins a bot, by the time a power dumper like 148 or ourselves can get over there, 1114 will already have filled the goal to capacity.
I wouldn't say completely filled. I think all the power dumper would need to do is cap it off though.
Greg Needel
24-02-2009, 11:45
Good eyes, but you missed something at 0:32.
That sweet drill press in the background?
or is the all the sheet metal from the 1114 bot on the table?
AlexD744
24-02-2009, 17:22
How does the roller system in the back align all of those balls that nicely?????? i see the spiral rollers but is that it??
I think they have sturdy metal funneling the balls up. I tested that while prototyping but we never used it. It does work well for the purpose.
Arthur S
24-02-2009, 17:27
This is AMAZING! haha I'm really loving the turret. I showed this to people around me in school and they started to call your robot Kobe.:]
Rick TYler
24-02-2009, 17:38
They sure did. Our sheet metal was done by our sponsor Innovation First at their sheet metal facility in Greenville, Tx
What a coincidence! The metal components of my favorite robot were also done by IFI!
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr113/dtengineering/VEX%20Robotics%20-%20Gladstone%20Open%202009/vrc_gladstone_09_077_.jpg
lim shi hao
06-02-2010, 05:26
It has the same desgin as your 2006 robot except that you guys convert from tracks to a 6-wheel drive. You guys also added a turret to mount a shooter mechanism, right??
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