Top Bots for 2009?

[Creator Mat]

What are the best bots that you have seen in competition so far?

for me best...
Shooter: 1114
Dumper: 1625
Rookie: 2970

[wo-bot 141]

67 67 67.....undefeated...great bot.
here are some of the great bots i have seen so far in no order.

67-111-1625-85-245-494-70-1-33-1024-45-330-233-179-148-1114-2056-79-45
904-71-65-141-201-1918-107.
mainly Michigan teams because they're is no real need to scout out of state yet because of the trial we have.

[ginosoprano09]

Definitely Team #148

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74722

[Herodotus]

So far 67 is the best bot I've seen, though from what I've heard 1625 is a beast this year.

[Jetweb]

my top are 1625 - no explanation needed,

and while they probably don't want me to say this my second it 1649, there like an orbit ball scoring ninja. (you've been warned)

[Bongle]

2056 is pretty fantastic as well.

-Very fast, very accurate dumping
-Reliable scoring in autonomous, when they lock on somebody. Never saw them prematurely dump.
-Very fast, controllable robot
-Fast pickup
-No-jam ball storage
-Human-loadable as well as floor-loadable

[EricLeifermann]

For robots i have seen IN PERSON this year so far 1625 is at the top of my list, that might change when we compete at Troy this weekend. As for favorite robot this year thats a different story that would go to 148.

[pacoliketaco]

im going to have to put out team 2753 for best rookie. They were the major scorer when they won NJ.

[xnaut]

i'm a little biased in this decision.... but team 79 ripped up the Orlando regional!

there was one other bot i cant think of that was there that was also great

but we could score so well people had to double team us just to stop the madness:D

[Lil' Lavery]

How has the team that currently has a 35-0-1 record, averages higher than 80 points per match, won two events, and has scored over 100 points twelve times only been mentioned by number once...

[Elgin Clock]

Top bots simply can not be mentioned yet, because a lot of teams have yet to play.
I'd keep an eye on some of the "late bloomers" this year playing this weekend for the 1st time. :cool:
$0.02

[seraphim33]

Definitely Team #148

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74722

i second that and also 469 is incredible

[Zach O]

As said, team 67 is epic this year.

[The Lucas]

How has the team that currently has a 35-0-1 record, averages higher than 80 points per match, won two events, and has scored over 100 points twelve times only been mentioned by number once...

Are we doing this by number of times mentioned like 06? (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=483222&postcount=76) I always thought that was a poor method. See I think one nod is enough for anyone, I would prefer posters try to be original and mention a team no one else has mentioned (and not your own team please). But hey, this isn't my thread :rolleyes:
So far 67 is the best bot I've seen, though from what I've heard 1625 is a beast this year.

HOT and Winnovation are amazing but 71 will always be the BEAST.

45 will blow you away and they certainly ain't singing the blues when they are together with their IN FIRST brother 234.

56 won 2 regionals and has only lost elim 1 match (due to a penalty), not too shabby.

[Akash Rastogi]

67, 1625, and 79. And soon...228.

[swamp_child]

my top are 1625 - no explanation needed,

and while they probably don't want me to say this my second it 1649, there like an orbit ball scoring ninja. (you've been warned)
Jonathan dont give away our secret alliance partner weapon!

[AlexD744]

i'm a little biased in this decision.... but team 79 ripped up the Orlando regional!

there was one other bot i cant think of that was there that was also great

but we could score so well people had to double team us just to stop the madness:D

I have to agree with this, why so you think we picked you guys? You were awesome!!!

[Homsar66]

I'd choose Team 45... though 234 and Robohawks (can't remember the number) look tough too.this is from what i've seen at DC and VCU.
And the tornado bot looks great, but i've never seen a team hold more than ~10 balls at once, though many can. I'm not sure it that huge capacity is really needed, by the time you've picked up 30 balls the game is nearly over. our 25 hopper has never gone past half filled, and ive seen the same issue with other large capacity teams such as MOE and DOTM

[Enigma's puzzle]

I have to say 67, we were eliminated, but the sheer defensive draw, which they can still score effectively against makes the entire alliance better. We once held them for 25 seconds pinned, which was great i havent seen anyone able to do anything near that. i would compare them to 1114's bot last year, completely dominant.

[Spylake]

my top are 1625 - no explanation needed,

and while they probably don't want me to say this my second it 1649, there like an orbit ball scoring ninja. (you've been warned)

You are too kind but no one should forget that it was 179's robot that got us there.

In addition "the Scoring Ninja" still has a few new tricks up its chain drive for Atlanta.

[GODUX123]

Team 2645's great

[ScottieDo555]

i think the best rookie team was 2775 dewalt. they were at saint louis, and they were amazing.

[Jared Russell]

254/968 are incredible

[wcamp1742]

And the tornado bot looks great, but i've never seen a team hold more than ~10 balls at once, though many can. I'm not sure it that huge capacity is really needed, by the time you've picked up 30 balls the game is nearly over. our 25 hopper has never gone past half filled, and ive seen the same issue with other large capacity teams such as MOE and DOTM

Oh believe me, 148 gets at least 20 balls at one time and then unloads in 5 seconds. They are definately the top bot I've seen in person but I've only seen OKC and Dallas; though I will say that 1114 just looks devastating but I've never seen any of their matches. Be wary of 148! They may just drive around for most of the match but if they get you. . .go ahead and concede the win to them.

[amariealbrecht]

team 148...not really a whole lot of explanation needed!

[BenX02]

From what I've seen online, 67 is pretty crazy.

Oh and from what I've seen in person, 1771. It's awesome to watch this thing go:

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/pictures/2009/thumbs/1771.jpg

And that's without the fans on the back that supposedly give it an extra 7 pounds of thrust. They also told us it shoots 5 moon rocks per second.

[Taylor]

I think this year more than any other, the world champions will not be the teams with the best robots, but the teams with the best strategy. Every robot in the field has unique strengths, and every robot in the field certainly has unique weaknesses. Building an alliance in which the teams complement each other while protecting individual weaknesses and understand their roles will be key to winning the game, not necessarily just having 3 dominant robots.

[Tottanka]

I would deffinately rate 1574 as a top bot this year, though they failed to win Israel they dominated it through the Qualifying Matches and were the team to beat during Elims - and were only defeated with double D on them during the entire match.

[Adam Freeman]

I have to say 67, we were eliminated, but the sheer defensive draw, which they can still score effectively against makes the entire alliance better. We once held them for 25 seconds pinned, which was great i havent seen anyone able to do anything near that. i would compare them to 1114's bot last year, completely dominant.

I would not compare our robot this year to the 2008 1114 robot. IMO that robot was one of the most dominant robots in FIRST history.

We appreciate all of the compliments, though.

Our robot is good but, there are a number of other teams that are just as good:

1114, 1625, 254/968 (my favorite), 148, 71, 217, 45

Just to name a few that I have seen on video. I am sure there are many others that should be on the list.

As for defensive....469 is the most dominant defensive machine we have run across so far. I am sure we will see more as the year progresses.

[Maggie27]

Team 222!!

They were AWESOME at Pittsburgh, and their alliance won.
We were supposed to be a part of that alliance.:(

[scoutmasterlord]

I'm saying team 67. but a couple teams could take them out like team 245,1,1918,70. if some how three of those teams were team up against 67 there alliance team. it would make a amazing match.

[rees2001]

I'm going to throw a vote in for 1507. A team that will not be at Championship. They were 12-2-2 at FLR (both losses came in elims), 10-4-0 at Philly, (2 of 4 losses came in elims vs 56 365 395).

Not too shabby for a team nobody ever heard of...

[camtunkpa]

Team 222!!

They were AWESOME at Pittsburgh, and their alliance won.
We were supposed to be a part of that alliance.:(

Thanks Maggie. 1708 played some awesome defense! I tend to stay away from these threads, but I'm gonna throw some others in here 1218 was great at Pittsburgh, 816 was great at Philly and there are many others that have huge potential when left to play their game...11, 56, 103, 291, 365, 395, 1153, 1507, 1629 & 1923 stand out as offensive threats. I'm sure there are some I missed and I didn't covered any machines I haven't seen in person. Good luck to everyone!

[A-train]

I think this year more than any other, the world champions will not be the teams with the best robots, but the teams with the best strategy. Every robot in the field has unique strengths, and every robot in the field certainly has unique weaknesses. Building an alliance in which the teams complement each other while protecting individual weaknesses and understand their roles will be key to winning the game, not necessarily just having 3 dominant robots.

Our head mentor said this at the beginning of the build season. I completely agree with this. Teamwork is a HUGE part of the game this year.

67 looks like a VERY strong team this year (they were good last year too) we will see how they do at Troy :) Good luck!!!

And thank you everyone for the compliments!

[John Gutmann]

I think 1280 is up there...they can fill a goal in dump. Its scary to watch.

-John

[sgreco]

1625 and 67 would probably tale my top spots so far this year. It is hard to tell just because the nature of the game makes it a little more unpredictable than previous years.

148 is definitely a top bot there release speed is impressive and I wouldn't be surpised to see them win their second regional this week.

254/968 look good as always. Their dumpers are powerful. 968 may have come up short at San Diego, but they were a top bot there. 254 looked very strong in silicon valley, and I can only expect them to get better.

After watching qualifications I was convinced that 79 was going to win Florida, although they came ever so close to winning and didn't quite pull it off in the end, they are still on my list of top robots.

217 looked good at Midwest, but there performance at MI Cass Tech was definitley more convincing as to why they chould be a top bot this year.

111 looked very strong at Midwest, there run at Boilmaker was cut short, but I still think they are one of the best.

39 Never had an insanely high score at Arizona, but they found a way to win the majority of their matches and I expext them to make a run in Atlanta.

45's performance has been very good this year, they can boast 26 wins in 2 regionals and one title along with a very cool propulsion system.

71 is a beast as usual (Pun intended) and they are definitely in the hunt for the best robot.

As for top shooters, 1114 has been mentioned and looks really good. I would like to add 1717 because they were very close to regional title and had the capability to control the out come of their matches. 40's auto mode is ridiculous and if if a couple small things went a little differentley they could easily have their second straight multi regional title year.

[Sgraff_SRHS06]

Biggest Bullet You'll Dodge at Championship: 2199 (Robo-Lions), great shooter (almost an 1114 clone) with a ridiculous human player. Went 19-8-0 in DC and Chesapeake and never scored below 60 points, scoring 100+ points five times, including 142 in Chesapeake (only the 151 points from Midwest is higher).

[sgreco]

Biggest Bullet You'll Dodge at Championship: 2199 (Robo-Lions), great shooter (almost an 1114 clone) with a ridiculous human player. Went 19-8-0 in DC and Chesapeake and never scored below 60 points, scoring 100+ points five times, including 142 in Chesapeake (only the 151 points from Midwest is higher).


I definitely agree with what you said about 2199 being dominant, but 1114 and 2199's robots don't seem very similar to me (unless I misinterpreted what you wrote).

[s_forbes]

As with most games, driver skill makes up a huge part of the robot performance, but I'm not sure whether driver skill is something that everyone is factoring into their picks or not... That seems more like a 'top team' thing than 'top bot' to me.

Ignoring driver skill, 1114 and 1717 stand out to me as having the best robots this year. Both have very high fire rates, can shoot just about anywhere they please, and are beautifully designed and built. 148 comes in close to the top too, with their high rate of fire and rediculous amount of ball storage. Tornado is by far one fo the most beautiful robots this year as well... I could look at it all day!


If we are including driver skill, then I would add 1625 and 399 to my list as well. Simple and very effective.

Also, 40's autonomous definitely earns them a spot in this thread... It was driving better by itself than most teams can manage during teleop!

[Ben Martin]

Our data had 2081 and 234 as the best robots at BMR. Both were strong scorers, though the nature of the competition at BMR made it so no single team could win alone. Between both the human player and the robot, each team averaged around 18-19 balls scored per match (the next highest was 45 at just over 14).

[Lil' Lavery]

Biggest Bullet You'll Dodge at Championship: 2199 (Robo-Lions), great shooter (almost an 1114 clone) with a ridiculous human player. Went 19-8-0 in DC and Chesapeake and never scored below 60 points, scoring 100+ points five times, including 142 in Chesapeake (only the 151 points from Midwest is higher).

2199 (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/2199) and 1114 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/3e9/3e98d6414e27bdef16aade3cc0d74e2e_m.jpg) don't even seem remotely similar to me, other than they can both score quickly and use rover wheels to drive...

[Laaba 80]

2199 (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/2199) and 1114 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/3e9/3e98d6414e27bdef16aade3cc0d74e2e_m.jpg) don't even seem remotely similar to me, other than they can both score quickly and use rover wheels to drive...

Are you sure thats what 2199 looks like? TBA pictures arent always accurate, Just look at 93 (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/93).

[Lil' Lavery]

Are you sure thats what 2199 looks like? TBA pictures arent always accurate, Just look at 93 (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/93).

Yes. I attended DC, where they competed.

[Akash Rastogi]

973

The robot looks like such a friggin beast. So intimidating and puts up a massive score. I can only expect them to get better and play a huge role in their division in Atlanta. Should be sick to watch.

[BenX02]

Are there any pictures of team 67s robot? I've been hearing all these people talking about it, but I have no idea what it looks like.

[Akash Rastogi]

Are there any pictures of team 67s robot? I've been hearing all these people talking about it, but I have no idea what it looks like.

Yep.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/33435

[Lil' Lavery]

Are there any pictures of team 67s robot? I've been hearing all these people talking about it, but I have no idea what it looks like.

Video too (though the three matches that are up don't really show them much).
http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/67

[Laaba 80]

Yes. I attended DC, where they competed.

Alright, I agree with you that the robots look completely different. The person who compared them to 1114 called them a shooter so I thought the picture might be old. Now I am confused.

The best robot Ive seen so far was 1625. They control the match completely when they are out there. They go out knowing that the entire opposing alliance will be trying to defens them, yet they still score mass amounts. Ive heard great things about 67 also, but I havent seen them play. They have an impressive record though.

[Chris is me]

The thing about 1625 at the regional I've been to is that they were quickly noted as the best team there and thus were quickly ganged up on. They had an interesting mindgame with pinning, though; while they were pinned their HP tossed balls in their top and the robot didn't move at all, lulling pinners into a false sense of security. They're just a top notch team overall.

[robotlover]

Like most have said before 1625's robot is amazing and is the best robot i've seen out there so far. Also 1114 is dangerous if they can load and get a chance to dump

[Adama]

2199 thanks everybody for the love though unfortunately we will not be at Championships. We are on the waiting list though it unlikely we'll be there because of how late we signed up. The alliance of us, 40 and 134 fell short by 3 points in the last match to win Chessie. We were a second away from scoring our missed super-cells with the robot.:(

I would like to nominate 40 for top bot because of their mind blowing autonomous and general skill at the game this year.

[Akash Rastogi]

Going by skillage in driving, I'd go with 1717, 1771, and 816.

And nobody can say 188 isn't one of, if not the best, shooters of the year.

[AlexD744]

I'd choose Team 45... though 234 and Robohawks (can't remember the number) look tough too.this is from what i've seen at DC and VCU.
And the tornado bot looks great, but i've never seen a team hold more than ~10 balls at once, though many can. I'm not sure it that huge capacity is really needed, by the time you've picked up 30 balls the game is nearly over. our 25 hopper has never gone past half filled, and ive seen the same issue with other large capacity teams such as MOE and DOTM

Well we have a 15-16 capacity hopper and we can have made a full dump with it, and made a second and sometimes third half dump. It is definately possible and helpful.

[Chris Hibner]

i've never seen a team hold more than ~10 balls at once, though many can.

We've held 20+ plenty of matches. I've seen 217 have close to 20 as well.

Theoretically we can probably hold 50, but I think about 25 is the most we've had at one time.

[gorrilla]

our helix only holds 21(filled it completely 4 times at florida)......

which seems like not much when you think about it......


but its 42 points so......

[GearsOfFury]

For those I've seen in person, I'd say 1625 and 2039 - both incredible bots and top notch play.

I may go to Nationals just to see 148, 67, and 207 in person - very impressive.

This team 2338 has a killer bot when their balls don't jam - which I heard that someone figured out how to fix... :] Hope we get to see more of them at IRI.

[shortone1320]

no love for 121 from up here in the northeast? :-)
theyre great , we were lucky on sneaking by them in CT

[dragonrulr288]

sorry for being rather biased, but 216 [after our "traverse city redesign"] has been quite the beast. 2nd @ Lansing competition [thanks team 1 for choosing us :) , sorry our frame got bent nearly and inch out of square in the finals :( ] and just got FIRST [lol] at W.M.

1918 has a simple but beastly bot, thanks for working with us guys :)

85 has been awesome

and 67, team HOT. your scoring average and amount of wins says alot!!

thats just to name a few I have seen...

[Daniel_LaFleur]

no love for 121 from up here in the northeast? :-)
theyre great , we were lucky on sneaking by them in CT

LOL. I picked 121 to win in CT, and they would have too if you ..... :p (P.S. Great job :D ).

I'm still picking them for Einstien.

[Gerdee]

i would have to say 85, 67, 1, and fleet only reason i pick fleet is because they are always pinning you into corners and they keep you there same with 904

[Carrington]

From the performances i've seen so far i think 2056 is one of the top bots. They scored consistently and if I am not mistaken I think I saw them do an autonomus dump. They are a force to be reckoned with.

[MrFixIt2719]

after competeing in the cass tech and detroit ditricts and attending the troy district this weekend i have seen some amazing bots
67 217 469 68 910 815 47 and 326 these are all bots that play very strategic

[Brad Voracek]

If we are including driver skill, then I would add 1625 and 399 to my list as well. Simple and very effective.


To be mentioned along side 1625 is a huge compliment. Thanks. =)

[Akash Rastogi]

85...dang

[Aren_Hill]

To be mentioned along side 1625 is a huge compliment. Thanks. =)

to have someone honored as being honered next to us is a huge compliment thank you lol

[Lowfategg]

I liked watching 694 and 1155 in CT today. Great teams that seemed to score very well under heat. Too bad neither is going to Atlanta as of now. Also 175 did very well.

[GearsOfFury]

From the performances i've seen so far i think 2056 is one of the top bots. They scored consistently and if I am not mistaken I think I saw them do an autonomus dump. They are a force to be reckoned with.

2056 yes most definitely! insanely impressive. glad i got to watch SOAP this weekend.

and thank you for now reminding me that it is absolutely essential that i go to Atlanta 'for fun' this year :p so happy to see so many unique teams do so well! it's not a 'water game' but please convince me that it didn't have the same intended effect =)

[santosh]

1771
nuff said

[Akash Rastogi]

1771
nuff said

Shooters= 1114, 188, 1771, 1717, 368, 217 anyone im missing? 2415 is good too. Heard from 100 that 1323 was decent. =D

Rookies= 2815, 2753, 3025

[davidalln]

1771
nuff said

Listen to my main man Santosh!

(That said, 2415 *cough* certainly seems to be a dark horse with two regional wins *cough*)

[sdcantrell56]

Thank you everyone for mentioning us. I am extremely happy with how things have happened this year and the hard work that everyone involved with out team has put in.

As for 2415, they did an incredible job of picking up for us while we were drawing 2-robot defense. There shooter is extremely fast and deadly at close range and there drivers and coach are very smart.

If I am throwing in a vote I would have to say 2056, 67, 1625, and 1717 are at the tops in my mind.

It is such an honor being mentioned with these robots.

[shortone1320]

LOL. I picked 121 to win in CT, and they would have too if you ..... :p (P.S. Great job :D ).

I'm still picking them for Einstien.

I still can't believe that we manage to sweak by. Thanks 1902 and 1155..
1902 is insane at pinning thats a major reason why we were able to dampen that 121 alliance. not to mentions 1155 quick scoring that helped alot too

[Champ]

Top robots- 2056, 1114, 188, 610, 71 Those are the main bots that i can remember.

Top Rookie- 2809

[BenX02]

Listen to my main man Santosh!

(That said, 2415 *cough* certainly seems to be a dark horse with two regional wins *cough*)
Being pretty subtle there aren't ya! :D

But seriously, it takes a really good bot to win two regionals (congrats again on winning Palmetto). So I am going to say that 2415 has one of the best bots of 2009. Along with, 1771, and what I have seen of 148 and 67.

[Raumiester2010]

after competeing in the cass tech and detroit ditricts and attending the troy district this weekend i have seen some amazing bots
67 217 469 68 910 815 47 and 326 these are all bots that play very strategic

Thanks for mentioning us,

our robot can hold about 15 balls in our hopper and about 10 -11 ish balls in our conveyor system. that's plenty to really ruin someones day if we get a full load out on you. too bad it didn't happen that way too often. great job to 217 and 67 for knocking us out of the elims at Troy. one team that was a little overlooked was 3119. though they are a rookie team and they don't score, they did a great job of playing def against us at troy, allowing 67 and 217 to wreak havoc on us and our allience:cool: GJ guys.

[Steve Kaneb]

The best robot/driver combination I have seen this year is 121.
If they are not pinned for the whole match, you can reasonably expect two to three dumps of about 10 balls from them.
No other team has the consistent collection that 121 has displayed. When teams are trying to defense, but failing to pin them, The Rhode Warriors gallop around the field grabbing a shocking number of balls.

[Lil' Lavery]

Shooters= 1114, 188, 1771, 1717, 368, 217 anyone im missing? 2415 is good too. Heard from 100 that 1323 was decent. =D
987, and depending on how you classify them, 148


Rookies= 2815, 2753, 3025
2775

[Akash Rastogi]

987, and depending on how you classify them, 148


2775

Wow how could I miss 987 and 2775. My apologies.

[astallasalion]

Based on what I personally saw at the two regionals I went to, (I'm not gonna count TBA/CD videos/pictures, there'd be too many to list if I did)

Best shooter - 1771 hands down.
Best dumper - 342
Best rookie - 2815

[sgreco]

Shooters= 1114, 188, 1771, 1717, 368, 217 anyone im missing? 2415 is good too. Heard from 100 that 1323 was decent. =D

I'd add 40 to that list.

Also a correction from my earlier list...2056 owns.

I didn't watch Waterloo because my team was competeing, but after watching 2056 at GTR there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are among the top 5 robots this year.

[Buckles121]

The best robot/driver combination I have seen this year is 121.
If they are not pinned for the whole match, you can reasonably expect two to three dumps of about 10 balls from them.
No other team has the consistent collection that 121 has displayed. When teams are trying to defense, but failing to pin them, The Rhode Warriors gallop around the field grabbing a shocking number of balls.

Thanks man. With out new and improved fan, we get around the field quicker. =)

[JackN]

The top robots I have seen in person:
67-Just the best scoring machine. They are fast and strong and can empty a hopper quickly.
68-Big hopper, fast scoring, smart driving, they are tough to beat.
85-A very fast scorer that can quickly end a match if they get an opening
217-The ThunderChickens are a great scorer, they can blow a team out so quickly.
469-I am a big FAN of this robot. They are so strong and they navigate the field very well.
910-I haven't seen them since their first regional but their continued success and strong scoring there leads to me ranking them here
1918-I have seen this team grow over 3 events, they score lots fast, nobody picks up balls better

Teams I have seen online
71, 111, 148, 254, 1114, 1625

[JHay]

I would have to say that 67, 85, 216 (Great defense and driving), 504, 904 were some of the toughest competitors that we had at WMD and would personally like to thank them for all the professionalism that they showed us at GVSU. Sorry if I forgot any other heavy hitters at WMD.:o

(TY for the mention 1504! :D)

[dwaynetrip3119]

Thanks for mentioning us,

our robot can hold about 15 balls in our hopper and about 10 -11 ish balls in our conveyor system. that's plenty to really ruin someones day if we get a full load out on you. too bad it didn't happen that way too often. great job to 217 and 67 for knocking us out of the elims at Troy. one team that was a little overlooked was 3119. though they are a rookie team and they don't score, they did a great job of playing def against us at troy, allowing 67 and 217 to wreak havoc on us and our allience:cool: GJ guys.
Thank you for mentioning us. We gave it all we had in that competition. When we lost in the semis at wayne state, we had a feeling that we would bounce back with a win at Troy. The funny thing is that I told my teammates that it would be like so cool if we were teamed with 67 and 217. We would take care of defense and they would score. And look it actually happened. I really hope that teams could stop overlooking us because if you search 3119 on this website. You would see that teams are actually believing that we are the best defensive team in the state of michigan. I also been receiving kudos from other teams and volunteers that i was the best human player out there. I was told that i made more super cells than anyone else. Well thank you again and i will see you this week at EMU!!!!!

[Nurnburger]

I'd have to say 1717 is the best I've seen. They went undefeated at Sacramento. We lost by 6(?) points in the first semifinal match against them, but when our elevator malfunctioned in the second match we got smashed.

[BT987]

i think 254 is insane.
330 has a crazy drive train and can control matches with just one dump its scary.
any video of 1717?

[Akash Rastogi]

What about best gravity dumpers? I think they'll be the best 2nd round picks in Atlanta, if not, some may be captains.

I don't know of many others but I'm putting ourselves up for that one.

11 (mind you we're one of the few that can stop our dump in the middle of scoring), 316, 342?- They were gravity dump right? Me thinks...

[MrForbes]

any video of 1717?

look here for some of the LA long beach matches, 1717 was in quite a few of them....including the finals :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/frc1726

[Johnny]

254/968 are incredible

AGREED!!!

Some of the best west coast teams throwing up some huge numbers:
254(Cheesy Poofs)
968(RAWC)
1538(The Holy Cows)
330(Beach Bots)
987(HighRollers)
1622(Spyder)
1717(Penguineers)
1388(Eagle Robotics)
973(Greybots)
1266(The Devil Duckies)
Yes, I am including my team because we have finished in the semifinals in both our regionals and were seeded 2nd at the Vegas regional with a 8-1 record. With some midifications, our robot is now a very effective scoring robot. Our team isn't known for its robot, but this year we are going to be.
399(Eagle Robotics) How could i forget such a dominant robot? I don't know :)

All these teams are capable of scoring over 20 balls in a match very easily, most likely more if given the chance. These teams are sure to be in Atlanta(except 330 and 1388 : ( I believe) and are sure to be a force in any divison.

My favorite rookie teams so far have been 3006 and 3009(both competed in Vegas). 3006 was an effective scoring robot that lead an alliance to the finals and 3009 had an effective defensive/super-cell gathering robot and also recieved the Rookie All-star award.

[Lil' Lavery]

What about best gravity dumpers?

1625, 234, 2068, 179, etc

[Lowfategg]

1625, 234, 2068, 179, etc

I believe 1625 would be classified as a power dumper because of bottom belting.

[MrForbes]

Shooters= 1114, 188, 1771, 1717, 368, 217 anyone im missing?

I can 't think of any....


;)

[Lil' Lavery]

I believe 1625 would be classified as a power dumper because of bottom belting.

I'd disagree, but I also think these "classifications" are pretty stupid. :rolleyes:
If so, then 234 and 2068 aren't gravity dumpers either (both also use similar scoring methods).

[Akash Rastogi]

1625, 234, 2068, 179, etc

I always considered those as power dumpers, IE using the aid of rollers and such.

I can 't think of any....


;)

Sorry I never got to see your performance at AZ. Heard it was sick though.

Added to shooters 1726.

[Aren_Hill]

I'd disagree

We are not relying soley on gravity, hence not a gravity dumper.
We classify ourselves as a power dumper

[Huskie65]

Only Seen Michigan Teams but i think 217 is amazing.
469 910 both great scorers with agility.
And the Big GM four are all great this year
65 66 67 68
Especially 67 but Everyone knows that already ;)
Can't wait to see the out of state teams!

[Goldeye]

I used OPRNet to throw the rankings for all the regionals into a spreadsheet, and sorted by OPR. These numbers are for one competition each; I don't have full-season numbers (yet).
OPR can be interpreted as a team's average contribution to their alliance's score; these numbers only include qualifying matches (afaik).
Top 25 is arbitrary.

Team OPR SAA PM RPI Regional Result
1 71 63.55 13.69 49.86 0.54 Midwest Loss
2 67 55.25 7.51 47.73 0.61 Lansing, MI Win
3 188 54.85 20.13 34.71 0.58 Finger Lakes Win
4 399 53.89 5.26 48.63 0.57 Colorado Win
5 968 52.85 12.82 40.03 0.61 San Diego Loss
6 694 51.29 10.4 40.89 0.54 Connecticut Loss
7 67 50.94 0.62 50.32 0.58 Cass Tech, MI Win
8 217 49.07 16.26 32.81 0.59 Troy, MI Win
9 2056 48.89 8.99 39.91 0.59 Greater Toronto Win
10 1625 48.82 13.99 34.83 0.54 Midwest Win
11 399 48.57 6.64 41.93 0.61 Los Angeles Loss
12 694 48.45 16.43 32.02 0.52 New York Loss
13 103 47.67 1.65 46.02 0.59 Florida Loss
14 2877 47.59 13.4 34.18 0.52 Connecticut Loss
15 121 47.19 8.28 38.91 0.60 Connecticut Loss
16 2056 45.29 3.27 42.03 0.58 Waterloo Win
17 67 44.74 11.52 33.22 0.56 Troy, MI Win
18 2199 44.74 26.5 18.24 0.54 Washington DC Loss
19 1279 44.29 19.23 25.06 0.56 Philadelphia Loss
20 1622 44.21 10.39 33.82 0.56 San Diego Loss
21 188 43.64 23.98 19.66 0.54 Greater Toronto Loss
22 395 43.35 9.06 34.29 0.5 Philadelphia Win
23 1625 43.32 14.14 29.18 0.55 Wisconsin Win
24 1218 43.22 12.76 30.47 0.54 Pittsburgh Win
25 1114 43.18 11.25 31.93 0.58 Midwest Loss



- 71 stands out beyond the rest, though it's possible their high OPR there is a bit boosted by inconsistencies in their alliance's behavior. Their next appearance is 37.98 OPR, placing 59th on this list
- 67's dominance is supported not just by their top notch OPR appearing three times, but also by their consistently high RPI. They had to play tough teams.
- 67 (#2,7,17), 188 (#3,21), 399 (#4,11), 694 (#6,12), 1625 (#10, 23), 2056 (#9,16) appeared in the top 25 OPR multiple times.
Some slightly off topic statistics:
- 18 different teams appeared in the top 25 OPR.
- After these performances high scoring performances, 12/25 went on to win the regional.
- 13/18 teams will be going to Atlanta (Assuming usfirst.org's championship team list is currently up to date). 103, 694, 968, 1279, 2199 will not be there.

[Arefin Bari]

Team 1345 worked closely with Team 179 this season. We built a twin. Both of our robots are gravity dumpers. The "rotation" of the basket throws the moonrocks into the trailer.

[eschanz]

67 67 67.....undefeated...great bot.
here are some of the great bots i have seen so far in no order.

67-111-1625-85-245-494-70-1-33-1024-45-330-233-179-148-1114-2056-79-45
904-71-65-141-201-1918-107.
mainly Michigan teams because they're is no real need to scout out of state yet because of the trial we have.

what about team 1254? our record may not be that good but our bot is awsome.
and did u see that smash on BOB durning the finals? it bent out frame and broke it in another place.

GO 216,1918, 1254!!!!

[Looking Toroid]

See thread "1625 Radical Redesign"
I think they're up to something.

[Mrpresident1776]

[QUOTE=rees2001;841334]I'm going to throw a vote in for 1507. A team that will not be at Championship. They were 12-2-2 at FLR (both losses came in elims), 10-4-0 at Philly, (2 of 4 losses came in elims vs 56 365 395).

Rees
Appreciate the vote but we just booked the Courtyard Marriott Atlanta Cumberland Centre! We've also got a bus so we'll definately be in Atlanta. Hope to see you there!

[drhall]

67-85-216-217-1918

These above five all looked great and have won a Michigan Regional this year.

[Zipding]

For me, the best herder was 2200, it was a giant yellow box with a roller on the front and at the Waterloo Regional, they were nicknamed the Empty Cell Kings. I saw in one game, they got an empty cell in the fueling station in under 20 seconds. They also had a really good autonomous period strategy, go to the centre and spin for a random amount of time. Their thrower was also really good.

[davidfv]

I used OPRNet to throw the rankings for all the regionals into a spreadsheet, and sorted by OPR.
- 71 stands out beyond the rest, though it's possible their high OPR there is a bit boosted by inconsistencies in their alliance's behavior. Their next appearance is 37.98 OPR, placing 59th on this list
- 67's dominance is supported not just by their top notch OPR appearing three times, but also by their consistently high RPI. They had to play tough teams.
- 67 (#2,7,17), 188 (#3,21), 399 (#4,11), 694 (#6,12), 1625 (#10, 23), 2056 (#9,16) appeared in the top 25 OPR multiple times.
Some slightly off topic statistics:
- 18 different teams appeared in the top 25 OPR.
- After these performances high scoring performances, 12/25 went on to win the regional.
- 12/18 teams will be going to Atlanta (Assuming usfirst.org's championship team list is currently up to date). 103, 694, 399, 968, 1279, 2199 will not be there. (399 won Colorado but aren't listed for the championship)

Team 399 was only going to Atlanta if they had won their way in [Regional Champions, Chairman, Engineering Inspiration]. Since we did accomplish that goal, we are working the finances and are planning to be in ATLANTA!!!!! The Registration will be in sometime this week or early next.

[Brad Voracek]

399 will be in Atlanta. No worries. =) Being on that list is pretty sweet...

[Goldeye]

To be clear, those aren't really "rankings," just being up there says a lot more than the relative places. Still, great work performing that well!

[eschanz]

67-85-216-217-1918

These above five all looked great and have won a Michigan Regional this year.

AND 1254

GO ENTROPY "WHOOP - A - CHA"

[Alan Anderson]

what about team 1254? our record may not be that good but our bot is awsome.
and did u see that smash on BOB durning the finals? it bent out frame and broke it in another place.

I'm having a hard time reconciling the description of a bent and broken robot having a poor record with the claim of "awsome" [sic]. ;)

[dragonrulr288]

what about team 1254? our record may not be that good but our bot is awsome.
and did u see that smash on BOB durning the finals? it bent out frame and broke it in another place.

GO 216,1918, 1254!!!!

you guys did have a beastly bot! that was an awesome round! I screamed when I saw the score!!! good job to everyone at GVSU, if state will be better, I dont think I can handle going:ahh:

[Bochek]

For me, the best herder was 2200, it was a giant yellow box with a roller on the front and at the Waterloo Regional, they were nicknamed the Empty Cell Kings. I saw in one game, they got an empty cell in the fueling station in under 20 seconds. They also had a really good autonomous period strategy, go to the centre and spin for a random amount of time. Their thrower was also really good.

Wow! thanks for the props!

And for referance, our auton strategy changed at the GTR, we where grabbing the first empty cell in autonomous.

[eschanz]

you guys did have a beastly bot! that was an awesome round! I screamed when I saw the score!!! good job to everyone at GVSU, if state will be better, I dont think I can handle going:ahh:

Thanks for picking us, when you picked us our whole team went crazy( ALL 13). i was really suprised we got picked becaues we were ranked like 31st and the end of friday.

BOB didnt stand a chance once we had our eyes on him, and when NC Gears power dumped.

Cant wait till state to see all the other robots and how well we work together.

[AdamHeard]

399 will be in Atlanta. No worries. =) Being on that list is pretty sweet...

^Well deserving of being on that list.

I've seen 399 for a long time, always at least a solid robot, but never elite level. Well, this year, they clearly are elite level. They drove better than anyone and LA, and to find out they did it with no traction control is just amazing. They must have a pretty good driver ;) (In fact, 399 is one of the teams my drivers are watching match video on to improve our game)

[TKM.368]

Shooters= 1114, 188, 1771, 1717, 368, 217 anyone im missing? 2415 is good too. Heard from 100 that 1323 was decent. =D

Rookies= 2815, 2753, 3025

Thanks for the mention. For those who may have missed us, we were finally able to get some video posted of a couple of our matches here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-WPhcOJVI) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQFXAhPNhII).

See you in Atlanta!

[EricLeifermann]

After Troy this week my new list of robots that I have SEEN compete is

1. 1625 - they get a good 2-3 dumps in a match of 10+ balls a dump.

2. 67 - The best team I've seen against defense, not to mention their awesome scoring ability

3. 217 - Their fast, they can score, and when people ignored them to play D on 67 they ran 2 empty cells in about 15 sec, then proceeded to score both super cells with their robot.

The best rookie team I have seen is 2826 Wave Robotics our of Oshkosh WI.

My favorite bot is still 148 and I can't wait to see Tornado in Atlanta in a few weeks!

[Kevin Sevcik]

I'm very surprised I haven't seen 624 mentioned here yet. They only have 1 loss in quals between 2 regionals, won the Dallas Regional, and nearly carried their entire alliance to a win at LSR as well. Think 148, only not nearly as easily pinned and you'll be close.

[ScottOliveira]

I was very impressed by 425 at the Palmetto Regional, they had an excellent powered dumper going.

[Meredith Novak]

- 13/18 teams will be going to Atlanta (Assuming usfirst.org's championship team list is currently up to date). 103, 694, 968, 1279, 2199 will not be there.


103 is a Hall of Fame team. Does anyone know why they are not on the list for Atlanta?

[Zflash]

I was very impressed by 425 at the Palmetto Regional, they had an excellent powered dumper going.

I second the 425 nomination. They had a great robot, as well as great people to back it up.

[Akash Rastogi]

103 is a Hall of Fame team. Does anyone know why they are not on the list for Atlanta?

I'm told they do not plan to attend. :( Hoping they change their minds, they have a terrific robot.

[Meredith Novak]

I'm told they do not plan to attend. :( Hoping they change their minds, they have a terrific robot.

Oh, absolutely. A lot of us will be disappointed if they are not there!

[The Lucas]

103 is a Hall of Fame team. Does anyone know why they are not on the list for Atlanta?
Cybersonics prefer to 3 regionals (NJ, Florida, Philly) to 2 regionals and Championship (Florida is a travel regional replacement). For the last two years, they have gone to these 3 regionals. Last year, their performance at the regionals convinced them to register for Championship at the last minute (and bring a small team down to Atlanta). Their robot was great as usual this year, but they are not bringing it to Championship.

I would imagine they will send some people down for the Hall of Fame, just not the whole team and the robot.

[Wayne C.]

103 is a Hall of Fame team. Does anyone know why they are not on the list for Atlanta?

103 decided to go to regionals rather than Atlanta this year. They have valid reasons for such a decision. We too will miss them.

And the DO have a great robot- You just need to see them and play them in the off seasons this year (shameless plug for BE8 - tentatively 10/31/09)

WC :cool:

[carbuff]

i would have to say 121 is up there

[The Readinator]

121, 126 (GaelForce), 1100... All of them did extremely well in the CT Regional... Hope to see them in Atlanta....

I know that 121 won the Boston Regional, and that GaelForce helped out the Überbots at the CT Suffield Shakedown (to win by 1 point !!).
:)

[TD78]

I know that 121 won the Boston Regional, and that GaelForce helped out the Überbots at the CT Suffield Shakedown (to win by 1 point !!).
:)

I think you meant the New Hampshire Regional...we did not attend Boston.

[carbuff]

yeah i was at the conneticut regional 121,126,175,and 1100 were good

[EgROS]

I'm very surprised I haven't seen 624 mentioned here yet. They only have 1 loss in quals between 2 regionals, won the Dallas Regional, and nearly carried their entire alliance to a win at LSR as well. Think 148, only not nearly as easily pinned and you'll be close.

Thanks for the compliment! That is very high praise. One correction though: We won the Bayou Regional, not Dallas. 418 , 148 and 2354 were the winners there.

[Brad Voracek]

^Well deserving of being on that list.

I've seen 399 for a long time, always at least a solid robot, but never elite level. Well, this year, they clearly are elite level. They drove better than anyone and LA, and to find out they did it with no traction control is just amazing. They must have a pretty good driver ;) (In fact, 399 is one of the teams my drivers are watching match video on to improve our game)

Thanks Adam, that means a lot coming from you, you've seen lots of robots go through LA, from what i hear. =p


We'll have videos up from Colorado soon, just wait until you see those. We were playing at an entirely different level from LA. It was so much more intense.


Would be nice to see you guys in our division in atlanta. =) Three weeks and counting...!

[SoftwareMentor]

Congratulations! And we'll welcome you to Atlanta and see you there!
1771 - along with 2415 and 21, Palmetto Regional champs

[miscall]

126
1100

We're pretty spiffy too.

[roboticWanderor]

has no one mentioned 973? the Raptor is definitely a force to be feared after LA...

1717 is one of my favorites but the huge list could not be complete without roobts like :
624: a great robot this year, definitely will do well at champs.
148: built to win rounds in Atalanta
1114: scarrrrrrry
1625: omg
67: this thing is redonkulouso
etc.
really it goes on and on, it will be the alliance selections and teamwork that pose the greatest threats at Champs, not single robots.

[Akash Rastogi]

has no one mentioned 973? the Raptor is definitely a force to be feared after Sacramento...

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=841452&postcount=44

;)

[EricH]

has no one mentioned 973? the Raptor is definitely a force to be feared after Sacramento...
I think you might mean Vegas. 1717 was in Sac, 973 and Raptor were in Vegas.

[rwehner11190]

Team 624 dominated the Lone Star Regional. Weak alliance partners kept them from winning in the finals.

[Johnny]

I think you might mean Vegas. 1717 was in Sac, 973 and Raptor were in Vegas.

973 also won the LA Regional, that's probably what they meant.

[EricH]

973 also won the LA Regional, that's probably what they meant.
I know, but when you specify a regional the team wasn't at...

[AdamHeard]

I'd say, my two favorite robots from the west this year; 330 and 1717. Tragically, 330 can't make champs. I have not seen a single robot that can play as effective defense, that can avoid defense as effectively and still score well.

They aren't the #1 scorer, but they still score a lot and more importantly, they make it a bad day to for the #1 scorer on the other alliance (which too often at vegas was a certain bright orange target).

1717 showed their potential at LA, and nearly won (imo they did win, we won one match by a footfault on their alliance, that's it). At Sacramento they showed that potential can be, and was, turned into pure dominance. If an all black strafing, turreting, powerdumper (and often shooter) doesn't scare you, it should.

has no one mentioned 973? the Raptor is definitely a force to be feared after Sacramento...

1717 is one of my favorites but the huge list could not be complete without roobts like :
624
148
1114
1625
67
etc.
really it goes on and on, it will be the alliance selections and teamwork that pose the greatest threats at Champs, not single robots.


Good call on all the other robots you mentioned, but after our performance at Vegas I don't think we should be considered a top team. In my opinion, the robot performs GREAT, and the only single failure between two regionals is a failed radio power cord (which was proptly made more secure). We are fielding a rookie team, and on top of that threw all precedent out on the team, we have entirely new practices. Our scouting, pit crew, and driving are solid in my opinion (and I'm very happy with them), but we are not a top team.

It was a great lesson in teaching our students there is much more to doing well at a regional than just a good robot, and I hope we learn and improve on this and truly do earn the regard. I KNOW the students can do it, and they know what they have to do, but actually making it happen isn't always the easy part. This is far off topic, but for the first time in my life I finally feel like an effective mentor (yet at the same time know I will look back in 5 years, or heck, even 1, and say I knew nothing). It was great hearing from the kids, "Ohhhhhh. that's why you were such a stickler for quality/performance/continuous improvment", after walking around our regionals.

In the end however, it doesn't matter what the robot looks like, how fast it dumps balls, or how many empty cells it can run. It's how many points it scores, and how many points it keeps the opponent from scoring. Sure we can dump more balls faster than a good deal of teams in ideal conditions, but it's the reality of a 2 minute match many teams are beating us in.

[smurfgirl]

121, 126 (GaelForce), 1100... All of them did extremely well in the CT Regional... Hope to see them in Atlanta....

I know that 121 won the Boston Regional, and that GaelForce helped out the Überbots at the CT Suffield Shakedown (to win by 1 point !!).
:)

Ethan, I'm pretty sure it was the other way around... 126 did most of the scoring. ;) (Oh yeah, and congrats on getting a CD account.)


I volunteered on field reset at both the Boston and Connecticut regionals, so I watched a lot of matches in person in addition to all of the regionals I followed on the webcasts. There were some truly spectacular teams at both. 20, 61, 121, 126, 175, 190, 694, 1100, and 1902 were all very impressive at scoring. Team 2265 played terrific defense. I am very glad we weren't up in any matches against them. Many specific teams formed great alliances and showed excellent teamwork during both qualifications and elims.

[EricLeifermann]

I'd say, my two favorite robots from the west this year; 330 and 1717. Tragically, 330 can't make champs. I have not seen a single robot that can play as effective defense, that can avoid defense as effectively and still score well.

Why isn't 330 going to Atlanta?? I was so looking forward to seeing and taking pictures of their drive system this year. :(

[EricH]

Why isn't 330 going to Atlanta?? I was so looking forward to seeing and taking pictures of their drive system this year. :(
330 didn't qualify. They had decided to only go if they qualified.

[The Readinator]

Ethan, I'm pretty sure it was the other way around... 126 did most of the scoring. ;) (Oh yeah, and congrats on getting a CD account.)


I volunteered on field reset at both the Boston and Connecticut regionals, so I watched a lot of matches in person in addition to all of the regionals I followed on the webcasts. There were some truly spectacular teams at both. 20, 61, 121, 126, 175, 190, 694, 1100, and 1902 were all very impressive at scoring. Team 2265 played terrific defense. I am very glad we weren't up in any matches against them. Many specific teams formed great alliances and showed excellent teamwork during both qualifications and elims.


That's true, Sorry 121... I wasn't really that concerned about scouting at the regionals though... That was Eric N's and HaHa's job!

Was it just me or did the teams that had fans on the back of their robots seem to have better acceleration than those that didn't? (i.e. 121 and 716)...

(thanks :))

[Johnny]

I know, but when you specify a regional the team wasn't at...

I know, i think they meant to say Los Angelas instead of sacremento.

[Dillon Carey]

my pick as of right now would be between 67 and 217

[TheOtherGuy]

my pick as of right now would be between 67 and 217

Funny, they're against each other in the first match tomorrow :rolleyes:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2009comp/events/GL/schedulequal.html

[Dancin103]

103 is a Hall of Fame team. Does anyone know why they are not on the list for Atlanta?

Cybersonics prefer to 3 regionals (NJ, Florida, Philly) to 2 regionals and Championship (Florida is a travel regional replacement). For the last two years, they have gone to these 3 regionals. Last year, their performance at the regionals convinced them to register for Championship at the last minute (and bring a small team down to Atlanta). Their robot was great as usual this year, but they are not bringing it to Championship.

I would imagine they will send some people down for the Hall of Fame, just not the whole team and the robot.


Ok, many of you are wondering why we are not on the list for Atlanta. We're not going and do not plan on going in any way shape or form, although I believe one of our students will be traveling down with some friends. Our team has valid reasons and many concerns about Atlanta. We have more fun doing multiple regionals and not nationals. We like going to regionals, because the kids have more fun and they are more personable then nationals. We have our reasons for not going, and they extend past what I have said here in this post. We will miss being able to play with teams like yours Meredith, and Lucas, we got to play with you and against you in Philly which was fun, congratulations again.

Thank you to y'all that think our robot is great. I appreciate it. This year we had the chance to play against and with many great robots with many great teams. This year was fun. :)

Cass

[Gaurav27]

I used OPRNet to throw the rankings for all the regionals into a spreadsheet, and sorted by OPR. These numbers are for one competition each; I don't have full-season numbers (yet).
OPR can be interpreted as a team's average contribution to their alliance's score; these numbers only include qualifying matches (afaik).
Top 25 is arbitrary.

- 71 stands out beyond the rest, though it's possible their high OPR there is a bit boosted by inconsistencies in their alliance's behavior. Their next appearance is 37.98 OPR, placing 59th on this list
- 67's dominance is supported not just by their top notch OPR appearing three times, but also by their consistently high RPI. They had to play tough teams.
- 67 (#2,7,17), 188 (#3,21), 399 (#4,11), 694 (#6,12), 1625 (#10, 23), 2056 (#9,16) appeared in the top 25 OPR multiple times.
Some slightly off topic statistics:
- 18 different teams appeared in the top 25 OPR.
- After these performances high scoring performances, 12/25 went on to win the regional.
- 13/18 teams will be going to Atlanta (Assuming usfirst.org's championship team list is currently up to date). 103, 694, 968, 1279, 2199 will not be there.

Here are the new top 25 entries after all 6 weeks of regionals.

RANK REGIONAL TEAMS OPR SAA PM RPI
1 il 71 63.5486 13.6863 49.8623 0.568321
1 grl 67 55.2469 7.51402 47.7329 0.638985
1 on 188 54.8454 20.1327 34.7127 0.606606
1 ca 399 53.8913 5.26321 48.6281 0.589569
1 sdc 968 52.8536 12.8229 40.0307 0.640392
1 az 1726 51.507 5.52655 45.9805 0.629979
1 ct 694 51.2924 10.4047 40.8878 0.560702
1 dt1 67 50.9408 0.617258 50.3235 0.610938
1 gl 67 49.4348 22.2294 27.2054 0.584032
1 oc 217 49.0695 16.2635 32.806 0.61046
2 on 2056 48.8918 8.98663 39.9052 0.619678
2 il 1625 48.8205 13.9918 34.8287 0.55816
1 co 399 48.5697 6.64104 41.9286 0.646447
1 ny 694 48.4503 16.4318 32.0186 0.536565
1 pa 103 47.671 1.65085 46.0202 0.611837
2 ct 2877 47.5881 13.4042 34.1839 0.527964
1 fl 103 47.4899 7.30672 40.1832 0.608943
3 ct 121 47.1896 8.28233 38.9073 0.632378
2 az 69 45.903 7.08524 38.8177 0.59304
1 wat 2056 45.2946 3.26659 42.028 0.619405
2 oc 67 44.7387 11.5185 33.2202 0.580594
1 dc 2199 44.7381 26.4954 18.2427 0.54878
2 pa 1279 44.2944 19.2321 25.0623 0.581121
2 sdc 1622 44.2074 10.3862 33.8212 0.582763


These numbers are pretty self-explanatory.
To look at all entries/entries from specific regionals you can download the spreadsheet from my post here:
ALLREGIONALS-OPRNET (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75272&page=9)

[cziggy343]

how are people finding the OPR this year?

[Sam N.]

I really admire 668, 100, 254, 766, and 1868 (Davis mod) for their simplistic and effective designs.

1717 has a tremendous amount of control over their bot. The driving makes them even better.

[asmo0901]

I would have to say team 2825 (WAVE ROBOTICS) has an awesome robot hands down! and team 1714 (MORE ROBOTICS) are great too!

[EricLeifermann]

I would have to say team 2825 (WAVE ROBOTICS) has an awesome robot hands down! and team 1714 (MORE ROBOTICS) are great too!

Its 2826 not 2825 just to let you know...

[Chris is me]

I would have to say team 2826 (WAVE ROBOTICS) has an awesome robot hands down! and team 1714 (MORE ROBOTICS) are great too!

Heh, thanks :D

I was just visiting here to talk about Wave, as they were so awesome at 10,000 Lakes I thought they deserved a mention. Basically Wave was to 10,000 Lakes as Winnovation was to Wisconsin: A monster.

Their crab drive really helps them a lot, as unlike Winnovation I didn't see them get pinned at all. They could pretty much do everything better than most of the robots there; scoring, defense, emptycell...

Needless to say when they picked us first I was pretty happy. Rookie bot of the year, and a threat to look out for at Worlds.

I'll say a little bit about our bot since it's been mentioned in the thread (I wouldn't say it's a "top bot" especially with the little I've seen outside of here, and I don't like tooting my own horn very much). Basically our robot's designed to work as a shooter or a turreted faux-dumper; since we can feed balls quickly we can get out 6 balls in about a second and 9 in two. Our ball pickup mechanism doesn't jam very easily (i've never seen it stuck for more than a second or so) and we're just wide enough so we can run along the wall to pick up Orbit balls, so we have an easier time feeding than some. As most teams have discovered short range / high speed shooting is really the way to go this year so we don't even usually try to go long range; we can use the dial on the joystick to adjust range for the occasional shot though.

We did better because we fixed the drive code issues we had all through Wisconsin. I'm going to talk to programming about a new autonomous mode at our next meeting, that was what cost us the 1st semifinal elimination match.

[LWakefield]

From what I've seen the best robots are: team 67 and team 217. I know there are many other great robots that I haven't seen yet.

[mr.roboto2826]

From what ive seen winnovation has a nice dumper
1714 has a quick shooter
and the titanium team has a very interesting empty cell mechanism

[trilogy2826]

Hey dont overlook team 2826
Don't sell yourself before you kudo others. I thought I taught you better than that...

[#2970-tim]

Anybody looking at rookie team 2970 ebots???? I belive where one of the many top bots this year. Of course im going to go with 1625 is up there. I havent seen any shooters that actually worked nicely. I want to see one.

-#2970-Tim

[#2970-tim]

67, 1625, and 79. And soon...228.



what about 2970?? have you seen us in action? 2nd in wisconsin and won minneapolis.

[hillale]

what about 2970?? have you seen us in action? 2nd in wisconsin and won minneapolis.

Don't worry, people know who you guys are. Especially those of us who have seen you guys in action. Lay your stuff on the field in Atlanta and you will be noticed. Just keep in mind that Atlanta is a whooooooooooooooole new ball game when it comes to strategy and robot performance. I guarantee you that everyone with winning Worlds in their sights has been working on ways to make their bot better/faster/stronger. I know we have ;)

[Just_Cetn]

The Top bots I saw in Michigan were definitely 217 (as they usually are, they make good robots) and team 67. Team 67 seemed a bit impatient in scoring though, they could have wrecked even more with a little tweaking to their drive strategy.

In my opinion a lot of people made bots that could score, but very few made bots that could sucessfully pin, score, and be ACCURATE. All the while evading other balls. I know this is out of left field, but I'd say team 66 made a great robot this year (20 wheels) by virtue of their near perfect evasion. In every match they never had more than a few lucky human player shots scored while still unloading a decent amount of times.

[JonellGregor]

what about 2970?? have you seen us in action? 2nd in wisconsin and won minneapolis.

ha.. Don't worry you guys are known..All florida teams pretty much know about you. They were all watching Krunch and then they saw your robot with us and saw that you were amazing :P You guys were great at the North Star! Thanks for being with us!

[AlexD744]

ha.. Don't worry you guys are known..All florida teams pretty much know about you. They were all watching Krunch and then they saw your robot with us and saw that you were amazing :P You guys were great at the North Star! Thanks for being with us!

Sadly not everyone in Florida was watching (e.g. me), but I will watch the archive. I was planning on watching but didn't have time, soo I'm praying for an archive to appear soon.:D

[JonellGregor]

Sadly not everyone in Florida was watching (e.g. me), but I will watch the archive. I was planning on watching but didn't have time, soo I'm praying for an archive to appear soon.:D

Ha.. well you heard about them from Harrison and me! lol

[Vikesrock]

I was planning on watching but didn't have time, soo I'm praying for an archive to appear soon.:D

It should be up soon on TBA. Just a warning, unfortunately it is only webcast quality and the sound is hopelessly out of sync on quite a few of the files.

[AlexD744]

Ha.. well you heard about them from Harrison and me! lol

A little, yeah.

[EricH]

A reminder to the rookies: We would rather prefer that you plug other robots before (or instead of) plugging your own.

That said, while I didn't watch any of 2826's matches that I know about (I had other things on my mind, like fixing an R/C aircraft and fighting a blizzard to get to the building it was in), I do know that they're the real deal. You don't do what they did--#1 seed, win the event, robot award, one loss at 10000 Lakes, RAS*2--without doing SOMETHING right. (/me notes them on FF Championship picklist alongside some other top rookies--decisions, decisions)

[Cooley744]

I think a lot of FL teams have been overlooked due to the vast amount of NW teams there are. As a participant of the FL regional this year, let me just say, it was a VERY competitive regional. Every team that was seeded in the top 8 were great. A few FL teams I'd be watching out for are:
179 (1st place)
744 (highest ranked FL team, 2nd place)
79 (2nd place)
233 (it's the pink team, they will always find a way to own :cool:, 1st place )

Serioulsy, these teams are going to rock.

[sgreco]

A reminder to the rookies: We would rather prefer that you plug other robots before (or instead of) plugging your own.

That said, while I didn't watch any of 2826's matches that I know about (I had other things on my mind, like fixing an R/C aircraft and fighting a blizzard to get to the building it was in), I do know that they're the real deal. You don't do what they did--#1 seed, win the event, robot award, one loss at 10000 Lakes, RAS*2--without doing SOMETHING right. (/me notes them on FF Championship picklist alongside some other top rookies--decisions, decisions)

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to EricH again."

I definitely agree with this post.

I also want to add a rookie to this list, team 2836, although they had it tough as far as record goes at Connecticut, they had some coolness factor in their robot. The thing I really want to emphasize is that they had the best team image I have ever seen for a rookie. They had multiple mascots, they had TV screens showing CAD work and build season progress, I would even argue that they had the best pit display of all the teams in Connecticut. They even had their robot on a turntable in the pit so you could see all the sides of it. It's hard to describe over the internet, but it was impressive. The first thing I said when I saw it was "wow, their a rookie."

[KRUNCH DUDE]

1114 Simbotics .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....
............................... I LOST THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!:yikes:

[nahstobor]

I'll let you know on Saturday the 18th.

[EricH]

I'll let you know on Saturday the 18th.
I'll let you know sometime in July. After IRI, of course.

[smurfgirl]

I'll let you know sometime in July. After IRI, of course.

It ends Aug. 1 this year though. ;)

[BornaE]

39 Never had an insanely high score at Arizona, but they found a way to win the majority of their matches and I expect them to make a run in Atlanta.

Its all about strategy strategy strategy!! Part of this is trying to minimize ranking score….read on.
Well unlike last year where a great offensive robot could win almost any match for an alliance, this year strategy plays a big role in your success. This year instead of just scoring ,we have diversified and spent equal time blocking and extracting alliance partners from robot dog piles.
After a match or 2 we were also very careful to avoid high scores in qualifications due to our trend in past years of having getting knocked down in the seeding due to the ranking score.

We have a relatively high capacity catapult assisted dumper with instant dumping and excellent accuracy. This minimizes the time that we have to loiter on target and as such we are less of a target. Notice our near empty trailer in most matches. . We are done shooting in 250 ms whether it is 6 balls or 10 balls. Mort time to get more balls, less time to be a target.
Our 8 wheel drive (2 per corner) decision was made after 10 days of exhaustive traction testing proved that friction/traction was a function of contact area for a given normal force. All 4 corners of the drive train are independently powered with electronic controlled (anti-spin) traction and (antiskid) braking. The front wheels are independently steered and operate in full swerve attitudes to facilitate sharp turning, pirouette etc without the traction robbing effects of wheel spin that a skid steered robot has. In turns or when trying to veer/push out of a dog pile or pin, skid steered bots are operating in the more slippery kinetic friction mode. We can operate with the stickier static friction virtually all of the time. We can push anyone …even laterally The drive was entirely within our 40 lb hold back so we developed and refined and practiced with it right up to the day before the AZ regional. Oh, 11 fps top speed if we need it.
A super experienced driver with championship RC car and 3D flying experience.
An ball handler operator than knows the guts of the software program.
Oh and did I mention strategizing! know your allies, study your opponents, and lead your alliance,
ps.. insanely high scores = less supercells allowed in the next match. That bit us once or twice and in the end we really focused on shaving the points to a bare minimum to raise our seed position. . See the thin point spreads in the last few matches where we were ever increasingly desperate to lower our Ranking Score . Almost too close!!!! In retrospect, we should have just scored more and then scored on our own alliance to avoid the low score critique. Hard however to shoot just a couple with our dumper if it is loaded with 8.


Hope to see everyone in Atlanta!

[b3t4_2836]

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to EricH again."

I definitely agree with this post.

I also want to add a rookie to this list, team 2836, although they had it tough as far as record goes at Connecticut, they had some coolness factor in their robot. The thing I really want to emphasize is that they had the best team image I have ever seen for a rookie. They had multiple mascots, they had TV screens showing CAD work and build season progress, I would even argue that they had the best pit display of all the teams in Connecticut. They even had their robot on a turntable in the pit so you could see all the sides of it. It's hard to describe over the internet, but it was impressive. The first thing I said when I saw it was "wow, their a rookie."


Thanks very much:) , Team Beta had a great time and is hoping to compete with you all next year.

[Chris is me]

Seconding 2836. They had some of the best defensive play in all of Newton. When we were paired with them, they stayed on their bot the whole match and were generally extremely smart drivers. They have a very solid, well put together team and image too.

[A-train]

I have to admit I underestimated 469. They were awesome on Newton! They were they best all around bot I've seen in person. They can play great defense because they have fans(they can also score while doing so) If they have D played on them they can still score. And they can score!:yikes: 469 should definitely be up there as one of the best all around bots

[delsaner]

Once I saw team 111 (wildstang), from galileo, i knew they would make it pretty far, and they ended up winning. My friend texted me asking what good robots were on our field. I mentioned team 111 and told her to look them up on thebluealliance. She responded back with "omg, thats amazing!"

Props to the winners!